How Goes the War?
The intersection looks like countless others on the Northwest Side.
Lots of trees, well-kept frame homes, a plant-filled traffic circle.
But there’s also a street sign spray-painted with a blue pitchfork — the symbol of the Maniac Latin Disciples.
It’s Barry and Spaulding. “B.S.” for short. The gang members who call it their turf, however, have a new name for the neighborhood surrounding B.S.
“It’s like the Bermuda Triangle,” one high-ranking gang member told the Chicago Sun-Times. “As long as you fly around it, you’re OK. But the minute you drive in there, you get sucked in [by the police.]”
The article goes on to quote all sorts of anonymous and even "ranking gang members" who claim the heat is so bad on them that they can't even sell dope in the hood anymore. Boo-freaking-hoo.
Here's a truly odd quote though - we hear this far more among cops and the law abiding citizens than gang bangers. In fact, we can't ever remember this coming up among the criminal set:
Maniac Latin Disciples members are now under gang orders to keep violence to a minimum because of the police crackdown, the ranking member said. Still, they’re continuing to arm themselves for self-defense, he said.
“Everybody’s toting a gun,” he said. “I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by six. You can’t disarm because you’re vulnerable.”





75 Comments:
So you have everyone tooled up and constantly getting stopped so where's all the uuw pinches? Plus the big claim in the article is the thousands of contact cards that were generated. Is that what policing has become here? What a joke.
The reader has good article about rham Emanuel and the G8
Criminals not caring if they get busted with a gun cause they're criminals, but I'm afraid of carrying a gun to protect my family and myself because I don't want to be convicted of a criminal act. Figure that out and get back to me you asshole politicians who want to protect this filth at the expense of the law abiding taxpayers. Sickening. Not a cop.
Mctrue keeping his word? Nah it caint be some lying.
And I'm supposed to feel bad for them because.......
They choose that lifestyle. Now they have to live with the consequences. They will NEVER get me to shed one tear for them or lose a moments sleep.
GOOD FOR THE CPD!! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!
Signed,
A very grateful citizen who values and appreciate all the work the officers do each day.
God Bless you and keep you safe!
WAR??? Please this is no war "In war there is no substatitute for Victory"-MacArthur
Thanks The Coffee Maker
The Great Chicago Media & Political War Against The Police and all their cares and concerns?
Just ask the little narrow-assed, never had to fight for, defend or protect anything in his life ballerino, the 50 thieves or the euro-traveler carny barker of a L.E. CEO.
The war is going well according to them.
"Here's a truly odd quote though - we hear this far more among cops and the law abiding citizens than gang bangers. In fact, we can't ever remember this coming up among the criminal set..." -- SCC
Yeah, me neither.
Who lashed this mess together and called it a story?
Hmm.
As usual, McWhiskey turns around, hunches over, opens door with ass, and backs into the room "responding" to everything...
Hey. S&S Blasters. Get over to "BS" and get dem forks off da city signs.
Oh -- what scum throw up a sword pointing upwards, with 6----6 at each end of the "guard," and 6 at the tip of the sword on top? Showing in 025 now, Grand/Austin.
OT:
Does anyone have any legit info on when 019 is closing?
Obviously, its a fluff piece, brought on by the sticker fiasco caused by that Maniac Latin Disciple, "Lil" Herbie Pulgar.
"Hiding under rocks" ???
More like in plain site !
Move along folks, nothing to see here, and the checks in the mail.
Toting. Yes, they's all "toting" guns. All the rats I hook say "toting."
WOW, SCC I was just telling a co-worker that this sounds staged. I mean pure Bull Shit what Bad Ass Gang goes to the press acting and complaining like a pussy.
OT: You know Sir, I might've been about ten minutes late but I'm pretty sure I'll still be here until about check off. Oh, and it's POMMADE, not hair gel.
McStupie's new press agent.
Does this sound like bullshit to anybody else but me? Does this 'lt.' even actually exist? Some of the language this 'lt.' used doesn't sound like any gangbanger I've come across! I call B.S. and B.O. and whatever else. This 'story' has stink all over it! It wouldn't be possible that this is a complete farce of a story, is it? With Rahm being friends with the media and all? Sounds like McDrunk wrote it and the Scum-Times published it.
How in the hell would Frank Main ever find a gangbanger to talk to, let alone a 'leader' of a gang???? I'm sure this 'leader' didn't call the Sun-Times and I'm sure Frankie didn't go hang out in da 'hood. So where did he come from? I'm thinking Main rubbed McStupe's penis like a genie bottle until this 'leader' popped out in a great puff of smoke.
"So you have everyone tooled up and constantly getting stopped so where's all the uuw pinches? Plus the big claim in the article is the thousands of contact cards that were generated. Is that what policing has become here? What a joke."
What tac/gang hair gel is going to do UUW pinches all night when they can grab a nice dime bag possession that keeps them down for 4 hours?
The reader has good article about rham Emanuel and the G8
2/21/2012 12:15:00 AM
This article didn't go far enough.
If they had ended the story with the words: "Rahm Emmanuel, IN ORDER TO FURTHER HIS CAREER, brought this mess to the City of Chicago. Emmanuel, with careless indifference to the lives and safety of the citizens, said yes to this mess. Emmanuel, with full knowledge of the disruption, mayhem and crime that this convention would bring said bring it to Chicago."
All right you little cretin, you want the spotlight? Let's see how this works out for you. It's already created a mess for your taxpayers here.
"WOW, SCC I was just telling a co-worker that this sounds staged. I mean pure Bull Shit what Bad Ass Gang goes to the press acting and complaining like a pussy.
2/21/2012 04:05:00 AM"
Only in Chicago
Frank Main is irrelavent. He got bashed so bad on the comments section that they disabled it. If there was ever any doubt that this guy hates the working police and is on the raccoons payroll of asskissers .This article puts that to rest.
I am rooting for a very violent and destructive G8. Gangs are just like city hall, they prey on the weak.
While police are pre-occupied gangs will come out and re-invent themselves with a vengence while 3000 disgruntled and vilified police look on.L A U G H I N G. Note to Rahm ...nobody on CPD is going to do your bidding. Self preservation mode will be the order of the day and lets hope no dumb hair gells get hurt in the process.
Frank Main seems to have more sympathy for the bangers than the citizens, just sayin'.
Interesting to hear McJersey's latest pitch about his NEW crime fighting strategy. It involves all the rhetoric that was used when C.A.P.S. was first started! About follow up resources that evaporated with the money for them. Who are his advisers now? He find some hangers on, lost in a time warp? Next thing we will be told to add the term, "C.A.P.S" to the don't use list!!!!
Read the article again.
Pure fiction.
Main is a paid Rahm publicist, nothing more...
One cannot find a single member of the CPD to praise McGoof, so now gang members are given credence to spout what an awesome job he is doing. Read this article and laughed myself silly, just silly.
Somewhat Off Topic:
Posted as a comment in the Sun-Times on the story:
"Chicago Police horses will also get riot gear for NATO/G8 summits
BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter"
Replay as follows:
Only two malignant narcissists, Rahm and BHO could think that inviting disaster to Chicago could have any good. Will they will be able to show off Chicago to the visiting dignitaries or will they be bottled up between McCormick Place and their hotels surrounded by rioters. Unlike the Olympics the Chicago Citizens never got a chance to say we didn't want this. G8/NATO will bring an invading army, not swarms tourists.
The RIOTERS goal is to have a thrill as they cause as much chaos and cost taxpayers as money as possible. Then go back where they came from and brag how they injured (maybe even killed) or maimed police officers and left their mark on the city and history. These RIOTERS will come with weapons aimed at police horses that will include razor knives to cut reins, marbles to throw under their hooves, stun guns and chemical sprays. RIOTERS will be in cahoots with lawyers to sue the city.
Stay Safe. Thanks Rahm and BHO for bringing Chicago disaster. Remember this on Election Day.
Info from police..not gang banger..
For one, the quote...Bullshit. Never said or known by a gang banger until now.
2: Disarm? Hell, even I don't say disarm. But then again, I'm not a Democrat..
You know who your source is, and it ain't Pookie...
I call bullshit on this. I'm the police and live on barry/spaulding (i inherited the house and don't have to pay a mortgage). If you see 2 mld's a week, that's a lot. Most shit heads can't afford to live around here anymore. Gentrification at its finest. 14 is a complete retirement dist now. I choose to still work in 008, because I like being the working police.
If you believe a gang banger, politician or a reporter you are a fool.
Looks to me that 9.5 is using Frankie to spew his more with less propaganda. The first commentor got it right. MLDs gun toting + MLDs constantly being stopped = UUW pinches. Well, where are they? They are just preparing the masses for our contract war. 9.5 showing them how McStupid and a few cops could keep peace in the city on their own. No offense to the coppers that are busting their asses over there. Just pointing out Frankie's angle.
down my ass, that set of d's just killed a king at monticello and roscoe sat night....
WORD ON DA STREET IS THAT A LOT OF SHITHEADS ARE WAITING TILL MID MAY TO CLEAN HOUSE.... they are starting to realize that just every cop is gonna be downtown during the month of may.... will be intresting to see mays murder numbers
If you wanted to ticket and impound some MLD's cars, I suggest a squad go into Prosser High School's student parking lot off Grand Ave. You'll get 8-10 cars EASY. No city stickers, no state stickers, no insurance. Check it out.
I didn't read the full article you link to, but based on your posting, I give you men & women two thumbs up!!
Great job, CPD & I assume concerned citizens in the neighborhood. For too long, the gangs have been able to run free and make normal, taxpaying citizens scared to enter areas. I'm glad to see the tide is turning. Let's hope this momentum can build and spread throughout Chicago.
Oh, well, now that I read the comments & re-read the article, while I would love to believe this is true, it just doesn't add up.
Like a bunch of other said, gangmembers would never speak to the press in this manner, also, would never discuss "orders" to reduce violence, or whether they "tote" weapons.
Damnit, I should have known it was too good to be true. But it is nice to dream . . .
Well, like any other citizen these mopes need to defend themselves, right? Sure, they're defending themselves against other mopes with guns who are gunning for them because they compete for illegal profits of the drug craze. But it seems logical enough: The "better judged by 12 than carried by 6" idea applies to regular citizens who want to carry a gun or keep one in their home as well. One argument pro-CC people always make is that individuals have an absolute and unalienable constitutional right to defend themselves with a gun. That right would apply to everyone, including these guys, if we want to be logical about it. The problem today is that in Illinois and Chicago, only cops and gangsters have guns.
Frank Main is a tool, metaphorically and of city hall.
The article is so pat that it appears contrived. That "rather be judged by 12 than carried by six" is what cops say. Not that other members of the public-including gang member-don't use the phrase, but something didn't "ring true" to my ears either when I first read the story. I thought I was just being a bit touchy. I guess not.
Frank Main is a fucking idiot. He takes everything that this "ranking gang member" has to say as Gospel when in fact there is no way that Frank can prove anything that this piece of shit uttered.
If Frank had any balls, which he doesn't, he would have refered to this asshole as a "reeking" gang member.
Typical yellow journalism.
OT:
Does anyone have any legit info on when 019 is closing?
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Don't worry about it because when you come to 023 you are going to be reassigned very soon to the south or west side and if you have enough time on the job, you will be staying in 023 but your current car /desk position is going to change dramatically. Remember, 019 is CLOSING not 023 and you who are currently assigned to 019 are visitors to 023 and will have last pick at your assignment. Late cars and rapids most likely for a lot of people who currently work inside. Sorry but it's the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts.
Either way this is good press for the superintendent and the mayor and will keep the public on their side. Any criticism from the rank and file will not go well with the public
When McCarthy rides his Harley Davidson with Leo Schmitz in the custom sidecar through the B.S. section of Maniac Latin Disciples territory the Gangbangers shudder with fear!! Who wouldn't shudder with fear at the impending contact cards they will be dealt.
Not sure if I ever read one of this Chumps articles in the past, but can this goof suck some Rahm ASS or what?
19 is closing change day. You will be reporting to the new 19 on Addison. 23 will be no more .
It also says contact cards are only kept for one year.
Ha.
"Here's a truly odd quote though - we hear this far more among cops and the law abiding citizens than gang bangers. In fact, we can't ever remember this coming up among the criminal set..." -- SCC
The word that comes to mind here is "fabricated."
I've seen these shitheads hanging out just north of Belmont around Albany and Troy.
this area is not quite the north west side! It is only the assholes in the media think this, they think the N/W side. Starts at grand and Milwaukee and ends in park ridge. Media goofs should actually live in the city until they learn the city.
04:05:00 AM
Yeah I got that feeling too. Like the last season of the Wire. Journalist pulling quotes out his ass.
02:13 am,
"toting" good catch!
Late cars and rapids most likely for a lot of people who currently work inside. Sorry but it's the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts.
2/21/2012 10:31:00 AM
I would not count on this if I were you. Maybe at first, but things do change and who you are and what you do can effect those changes.
Don't worry about it because when you come to 023 you are going to be reassigned very soon to the south or west side and if you have enough time on the job, you will be staying in 023 but your current car /desk position is going to change dramatically. Remember, 019 is CLOSING not 023 and you who are currently assigned to 019 are visitors to 023 and will have last pick at your assignment. Late cars and rapids most likely for a lot of people who currently work inside. Sorry but it's the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts.
2/21/2012 10:31:00 AM
Boy, you are an ASSHAT. The people coming to 23 are not 'visitors'. They are your fellow officers, you tool. Bet you're fun to ride around with for 8 hours. I hope somebody kicks the crap out of you one day--not a shitbird, a fellow officer.
Jagoff.
Gangs are not even active anymore at Barry and Spaulding and haven't been for years. The verbage used by this supposed gang leader is verbage used by a cop not by a gang member. This article stinks to high heaven. Did McCoors get drunk and put on his best gang voice when he prank called Main?
Toting. Yes, they's all "toting" guns. All the rats I hook say "toting."
2/21/2012 02:13:00 AM
And all the douche bags I know say "hook"
this area is not quite the north west side! It is only the assholes in the media think this, they think the N/W side. Starts at grand and Milwaukee and ends in park ridge. Media goofs should actually live in the city until they learn the city.
2/21/2012 01:19:00 PM
Barry, Logan Square and Avondale certainly ARE the northwest side. If you live in Edison Park, then you live on the FAR northwest side.
As soon as I saw the headlines, I said BS!!!
Remember, 019 is CLOSING not 023 and you who are currently assigned to 019 are visitors to 023 and will have last pick at your assignment.
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Fuck you, ya douche. Yo ass might be out in da street soon enough house mouse.
Barry and Spaulding has been dead for years.
I've seen these shitheads hanging out just north of Belmont around Albany and Troy.
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No shit, have been chasing them out of my alley on and off for about two years now, especially in the warmer weather. My dog has learned to bark and growl in anything wearing a hoody.
I call BS on the entire article. Either Mcdouchebag had one of his P.O. Posers play a "high ranking MLD" and gave the BS Story and they just completely made it up. Reading the words, especially the "judged by 12 then carried by six line" are only things I have heard those in law enforcement say! How low will they go!
Fact check!
“Police say the Shakespeare police district.. has seen a dramatic decrease in shootings. Between Jan. 9 and Feb. 5, for example, there weren’t any shootings in the district, compared to seven for the same period of 2011, police said.”
Hey, Gar! Let's take a look at 014 aggbat/handgun and homicide/handgun totals between January 9 and Feb 5 since 2007:
2011: 6 (Not 7. 4 aggbat, 2 homicide)
2010: 3 (no homicide)
2009: 1 (no homicide)
2008: 0 (no homicide)
2007: 2 + 1 shooting homicide
We can pull up method of deaths in homicides before 2007, so let's go with just aggbat/handgun totals for the next 6 years...
2006: 2
2005: 2
2004: 2
2003: 17
2002: 10
2001: 10
So, to summarize, shootings in 014 during the period cited nosedived in 2004 and floated between 0 and 3 per year for the next 7 years. Last year, they spiked to an 8-year-high and now they're back to the normal zone.
Whoop-T-Do. You're a magician Oh, and, yeah. There was a homicide/handgun on 05 Feb this year.
What a goof that Commander from seven is.......... always got to talk......he's the best
SCC....
Isn't this your utopia?
Haven't you always advocated for this scenario? I'm thrilled to ride these streets in this brave new world.
"The gang members who call it their turf, however, have a new name for the neighborhood surrounding B.S.
“It’s like the Bermuda Triangle,” one high-ranking gang member told the Chicago Sun-Times. “As long as you fly around it, you’re OK. But the minute you drive in there, you get sucked in [by the police.]”
Yeah, grade-school dropouts are usually well-versed in strange magnetic fields, navigational anomalies, and other things of that nature.
This smells more and more fabricated as I go along.
A very old one -- "Some call it the "Whipper-Whopper."
Translation -- "I invented the phrase 'Whipper-Whopper.' Thought that would sound cool."
One newspaper story is nothing. How many utterly phony "autobiographies" and stuff has Oprah been caught peddling?
All I got to say is "TOTING" really, Frankie? Thats the best tough guy, thug, gang banger line you could come up with. I mean when writing science fiction at least make it exciting!!!!
well i wouldn't doubt that it's "propaganda" by the news people( supposely to show that rahm and Mcstreetlight are doing some thing i cansort half-believe thet the upper echlon of the gang is trying to cool things down
( jeez they just figgered out gun play "draws heat" ?)
well least now they are not hangeing out 10 deep on the coreners now
( ithought there was an ordanance that said no more then 5 people hanging on a corner)
well hopefully the oter groups will get the message and slow down too
if you come down hard enough and quick enough
the others might learn thru example
Is there any district that awards hard working officers? The last time I got a gun arrest, the supervisor didn't say "good job," or "go home when your done with the paper. " I got a sarcastic remark "your still milking that arrest?" I wanted to punch him in the face. Instead, I milked the shit out of that paper. I have heard promises made to award guys who come in with activity only to be broken by shipping those same officers to midnights. I am sure this has been going on for years but WTF! I am tired of the favorite do nothings being taken care of...........Anyone got any solutions other than don't come in with (activity) shit?
Sun Times who are you crappin, I grew up in Logan Square and Humboldt Park thru the 70's till early 2000 Drinky Mcdumbas war had nothing to do with the "obliteration" of the MLD's at Barry/Spaulding GENTRIFICATION has, as a matter of fact Barry/Spaulding hasn't been much of anything for quite a long time with the exception of every blue moon some ole shit byrd driving around reliving his ole gang glory day's, and where did they find this supposed gang leader who talks about a war raged by a Supt. Who's name he doesn't even know, the only thing this Supt. has done since he's been here is obliterate bar's on Rush St. BS Compstat Meetings, in fact the only thing he has done that we give him any credit for is finally getting rid of Carruthers. If u run the #'s of this so called war out of 200 + arrest that were made only 10 + MLD's were sent back to the Pen out of an estimated 2700 documented member's spread out over 44 factions, I don't call that an obliteration of a gang, I call it a minor inconvenience. Don't eat this up people it's SMOKE & MIRROR'S
Is there any district that awards hard working officers?
Not in 007 that's for sure. You make a gun arrest there and instead of taking an early duck you're told to go back out and get another one. Sgt. Big Head is notorious for that. Talk about an unappreciative asshole. That's what happens when you're given stripes instead of earning them.
Then there's Bubblehead, what a piece of crap this guy is. This guy loves to fuck with coppers because he's a miserable human being. A commander will never be successful in 007 unless Bubblehead is gone.
You want change in 007 then start with the bosses. Replace the assholes with bosses that actually take care of their guys. Happy coppers are productive coppers. It's really not that difficult.
Almost forgot one more thing. Fuck you Rahm.
Is there any district that awards hard working officers? The last time I got a gun arrest, the supervisor didn't say "good job," or "go home when your done with the paper. " I got a sarcastic remark "your still milking that arrest?" I wanted to punch him in the face. Instead, I milked the shit out of that paper. I have heard promises made to award guys who come in with activity only to be broken by shipping those same officers to midnights. I am sure this has been going on for years but WTF! I am tired of the favorite do nothings being taken care of...........Anyone got any solutions other than don't come in with (activity) shit?
2/21/2012 10:12:00 PM
If you haven't learned that in this climate the very best advice anyone CAN give you, is "Don't come in with shit," then you just don't get it yet. 1st and 16th. You will never be promoted on this job. You will never be 'taken care of' again--the old CPD is dead. Mourn it, get over it, and move on, or find another job. Living in the past is a waste of time. And whining about it makes you look like a puss. Either 'man up' or STFU.
Toting. Yes, they's all "toting" guns. All the rats I hook say "toting."
2/21/2012 02:13:00 AM
And all the douche bags I know say "hook"
2/21/2012 05:07:00 PM
Thank you. My thoughts exactly. WTF?
I haven't ever heard a gangbanger put a 'g' on the end of anything, let alone "totinG". And not a woooo woooo in the whole article?
Stinkier than Limberger (sp?) cheese!
Frain Main = Janet Cooke
(Go ahead and Google her.)
All I got to say is "TOTING" really, Frankie? Thats the best tough guy, thug, gang banger line you could come up with. I mean when writing science fiction at least make it exciting!!!!
2/21/2012 09:32:00 PM
"Most of the chaps have resorted to furnishing themselves with various firearms" said the ranking MLD leader. "Indeed, necessity dictated that I purloin Papa's matching set of Purdeys in order to ensure an adequate measure of defence for myself and my chums."
Some of the commenters here didn't seem to understand Frank Main's article. While he quoted a whiny gangbanger, he did so in a way that let everyone see that the whiny gangbanger has been forced to change at least temporarily by the police. The article is a tribute to police. Nothing he wrote suggests he sympathizes with gangbangers who are feeling the heat. You might note that he ended the article with praise from a neighbor.
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