Thursday, August 02, 2012

Yuppies Want Guns

Welcome to the party pal:
  • People in Chicago's Old Town are concerned about the neighborhood's growing number of assaults and break-ins, and a community meeting is being held at the Old Triangle Association Monday night to discuss crime problems.

    Colleen Kamin has lived in the city for more than 40 years. She lives in the 1400 block of Sedgwick in Old Town and said she is concerned about the increase of crime in her area. She said she is going to buy a gun and take lessons on how to use it safely.

    Kamin intends to keep the gun in her home.

    "I know in Chicago we have to jump through more hoops to get a gun," she said. "I don't really care about that issue, I'll jump through all the hoops necessary to use it safely and keep myself safe."

    "When I do come outside, I go to the store and I go right back in the house," said fellow Old Town resident Jeanette Lymas. "I just don't feel safe."

    "A friend of mine in my building, a girl, was just robbed riding her bike down to the beach at 3 o'clock in the afternoon," said Old Town resident Charlie Schramer. "Now, she's going to buy a firearm and take training classes to use it."

Next thing you know, they'll be sick of having to leave the gun at home when they venture out into the neighborhood, all the while hoping they can make it back to their abode in one piece. They might see how irresponsible Machine democrats think there is something noble in going out and hoping you don't become a victim, while the criminals who already have broken the law by arming themselves and continue to break the law because of a thoroughly corrupted court system, suffer no consequences.

And then one day, they find out the NRA isn't a bunch of wild-eyes nut jobs. Then they actually read the Second Amendment. And then....they vote Republican.

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91 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does Colleen Kamin live in the Marshall Field Garden Apartments, 1448 N. Sedgwick Street?

Move out, Colleen. You now live with the Beast.

8/02/2012 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Colleen,

WWW.NRA.COM

8/02/2012 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Colleen,

WWW.GOP.COM

Welcome aboard.

8/02/2012 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC you were going good until the last couple of sentences. I think you have been drinking a little too much.

8/02/2012 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago is UNSAFE!

Try walking around Northwestern Memorial Hospital in the early morning hours.

The predators are everywhere and the CPD far and few between. Thank God for the NWPD.

Doesn't Rahm understand what is happening in Chicago?

8/02/2012 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, Oh, Oh... but look how well the tighter gun controls in the sanctuary city are working!!!!

OVER 1,300 SHOOTING INCIDENTS SINCE Jan 1, 2012

Remember the speeches?

This new gun law will enable this and will enable that and give us the tools...blah, blah, blah.. What did it enable?

OVER THREE-HUNDRED HOMICIDES since Jan 1, 2012.

Now Quinn want's to put out the same propaganda going after large capacity magazines and so-called assault weapons which in reality are nothing more than a long gun.

THEY ARE NOT FULL AUTO people --

But the images that are conjured up when you used the words "assault weapon" are oh-so scary.

Once an "assault weapon" ban is in place it's only a matter of referring to ALL GUNS as "assault weapons" you know the word game.

Making citizens helpless targets of crime. The blood is on the hands of the Mayor and the Governor and the lawmakers of this state. 1,300 times and more.

For any anti-gun advocate. When a gun gets stuck in your face go ahead and call 9-1-1 and wait and wait and see how that works out for you.

When you get five armed men busing in your front door like what happened last week or about 50 flash mob/robbers with backpacks full of who knows what robbing your place of business -- we'll let you have a cap and ball single shot colt to protect yourself because you don't need a high capacity magazine.

Yeah... Call 9-1-1 and pray that you don't get blasted in the head while you're waiting for your protection to arrive.

I have to wonder how many people that were at that theater shooting in Colo. are regretting the fact that they carelessly gave up their right to carry a weapon into that theater to see the midnight showing of Batman.

Surely there had to be at least one person there at the time of the crime that had a conceal carry card right?

Those 70+ people put their trust into the theater management to provide a safe environment because the theater banned guns. How'd that turn out?

Unfortunately for about 12 of them there are no do overs.

Stop taking for granted that someone else is going to save and protect you or assume that any law is going to be a successful deterrent to keep an insane person in check.

8/02/2012 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One can only hope...

8/02/2012 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Called State Representative Louis Lang's office today in regards to Gov. Pat 'Tax, Borrow, $pend, Repeat' Quinn's Senate Bill 681 where I was told this bill will never get voted on,

While I was at it, I asked for his support of concealed carry in Illinois and his response was it would never happen, that the last time they polled it was like 75% against and 25% for concealed carry.

I tried to reason with fellow answering the phones, wondering out loud why is it I pay high taxes in this state, have a career that I could practice anywhere else, can have reciprocal non-resident concealed carry in a number of other states, yet can't here in Illinois.

Seems if I want as a resident to have concealed carry, it will likely be in Arizona.

8/02/2012 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone have knowledge If Rham owns a firearm?

8/02/2012 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The first person lives at 1400 Sedgwick. There is a huge fucking housing project on that block! No shit you don't feel safe Captain Obvious.

8/02/2012 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question...as I've made a few calls and haven't received a direct answer regarding my firearm.
Just moved here awhile back.( I know I know, stupid decision) believe me, I'm well aware.
Anyway, from what I've gathered after taking the class and purchasing the weapon you must register it within a certain time frame.
My problem is, I moved from out of state and already own my firearm. I've been told it has to be purchased here to be "legal" in regards to the current gun laws. This is coming from an officer I spoke to on the phone. I must call bullshit on this!

Someone inform me please. My gun isn't here yet as I'm keeping it in my neighboring state with a relative until I'm "legal." Have the FOID card, just don't want to buy another gun as my Kimber set me back over a grand.

I seriously don't need to purchase the gun here to be legal do I? I could see Hellinois and Chitcago pulling some shit like that but truly find that hard to believe.

Any info would be appreciated. Even a link would work...

My 1911 thanks you...

8/02/2012 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, very well put. Couldn't agree with you more.

8/02/2012 01:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes. She should have to jump through hoops to exercise her God given, Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms and speak freely. This is a communist dictatorship.

Because pandering to convict-turned-reverends, homosexuals, or any Christian with a non-communist view is what represents Chicago values.

If pedophiles gain power and political influence, you'll see Rahm in a hot tub with little boys.

8/02/2012 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm hungry. I need a Chick-Fil-A sandwich and some waffle fries. Because I have Chicago values.

Oh, yes. I almost forgot. Fuck you, Rahm. You are a filthy little piece of disgusting shit.

8/02/2012 01:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahmboooo. And Quin have massive security details. But you peasant Democrats just get to vote. Ha
SHEEP

8/02/2012 01:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our pathetic excuse for a governor pat "the goof" Quinn just announced he wants to ban assault weapons in Illinois. Listen up NRA, how about throwing some cash and lobbying expertise at Illinois to help defeat this communist. He's a bigger natural disaster than the drought.

8/02/2012 02:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This can't be true! I just watched the news, and Rahm was on my TV saying the city is safe.....
This once great city, is now a joke of the world.
Can you imagine if we we granted the 2016 Olympics??

8/02/2012 02:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thank you people in old town for finally opening your eyes and seeing what is happening in your hood. now all you have to do is convince the government to get rid of the section 8 and welfare demaCRATS living at 1450 n sedgwick and 1365 n hudson and you can have your neighborhood back. plenty of vice lords and mickey cobras to go around. the answer is more dispersals if you ask the commander tho. give that building back to depaul students like it should have been in the first place.

8/02/2012 03:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These thugs are attacking people during broad daylight with no fear of getting caught. Rahm cuts the police and makes it virtually impossible for law abiding citizens to buy a gun and he probably wonders why people live in fear.

The folks in the video were not angry white guys. One was a middle aged white women and one was a black women. Both probably voted for Obama and Rahm. Probably not next time.

And now wants to ban the most popular firearms as well. I guess he wants the citizens to stay out gunned.

In 2009 in the U.S. there were approximately 13,500 murders with less than 350 using so called assault weapons...and 800 using hands or feet. It would reduce the murder rate more to outlaw hands and feet.

I can not wait to move out of this city and state.

8/02/2012 04:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll believe it when a couple of Old Town yuppies waste a couple of row house scum trying to steal their iPhones.

8/02/2012 05:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And then one day, they find out the NRA isn't a bunch of wild-eyes nut jobs. Then they actually read the Second Amendment. And then....they vote Republican."

Funny part of the Post.

Also a tad bit insulting to the Life Time NRA members that are Democrat or Independents (Like me)

8/02/2012 05:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In New York they have a saying, "A liberal is a conservative that hasn't been mugged yet". Glad to see the same mindset taking root here in Chicago

8/02/2012 05:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Old Towner said...

The Pilgrims are coming! The Pilgrims are coming! The Pilgrims are coming!

8/02/2012 06:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No guns for yuppies? They are stupid and will hurt themselves! Look, they spend way too much money on real estate in a city where they are robbed blind by government. (And they are complaining about being robbed on the street? WTF?) The schools suck so you have to spend more money on other education alternatives or their kids will be unable to read their diplomas. You have to shovel the street in front of your home during the winter and put kitchen furniture in front of the house. I could go on but really, do we really want stupid yuppies with roscoes arguing who is better, the Cubs or the Sox when we all know the Sox are?

8/02/2012 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Sitting Duck said...

Quinn claims to be a staunch defender of the Second Amendment. Then why is the nanny State of Illinois the only state in the nation that refuses to legislate concealed carry for responsible, law-abiding citizens?

WHY, NANNY QUINN?
WHY, NANNY PRECKWINKLE?
WHY, NANNY EMANUEL?

8/02/2012 06:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this wasn't such a tragedy it would be funny. How's that for an oxymoron?

Prisoners of Chicago, unite. If you are afraid of being arrested for carrying a gun to protect yourself, arm yourselves with other types of "legal" weapons.

A hatpin, which can be used to stick in the eye or other parts of the face of an animal who would harm you. A pen or pencil to use in the same way. Be creative and try to stay alive.

Of course, if all else fails, a double tap to the chest from a large caliber handgun is a permanent solution.

8/02/2012 06:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm says you're safe, so you MUST be. It's also good to know that it's too hot near the cool water at the beach, the red light and speed cameras are for the children, Solyndra was an example of good government at work, gay-lesbian-bisexual-transgender values are Chicago values, guns kill people rather than the savages that wield them, and the media in Chicago is impartial and not in his pocket because they are gutless.

You should also know that a big government knows better than you how to best live your life, raise your children, and spend your money.

8/02/2012 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

don't ya just love it, when a plan comes together.




Chalkie

8/02/2012 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen, people are finally waking up. Let's see how Gov. Stupid deals with this.

8/02/2012 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone inform me please. My gun isn't here yet as I'm keeping it in my neighboring state with a relative until I'm "legal." Have the FOID card, just don't want to buy another gun as my Kimber set me back over a grand.

I seriously don't need to purchase the gun here to be legal do I? I could see Hellinois and Chitcago pulling some shit like that but truly find that hard to believe.

Any info would be appreciated. Even a link would work...

My 1911 thanks you...

8/02/2012 01:11:00 AM





this isn't quite 'Zombieland', yet, and registering your prized possession here isn't the best idea.

better for you is to purchase a .38 snubby, Colt, Smith, Ruger, Taurus, etc., +P rated, and expect that, if you have to use it, you may lose it.

keep the Kimber safe and sound where it is.

8/02/2012 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Mt Greenwood Hillbilly said...

Nobody should even know if you own a gun, so go buy one and ignore the stupid rules the city has imposed on you.

Nobody will ever even know unless you need it.

8/02/2012 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me point out one fact you continue to ignore. Handguns are only good for one thing. Killing human beings. How about we ban the manufacture of them? Maybe that would solve the problem.

If I'm not mistaken, everyone could carry a gun in the old West. Did that reduce or increase the killing of human beings?

8/02/2012 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone inform me please. My gun isn't here yet as I'm keeping it in my neighboring state with a relative until I'm "legal." Have the FOID card, just don't want to buy another gun as my Kimber set me back over a grand.

I seriously don't need to purchase the gun here to be legal do I? I could see Hellinois and Chitcago pulling some shit like that but truly find that hard to believe.

Any info would be appreciated. Even a link would work...

My 1911 thanks you...

8/02/2012 01:11:00 AM

Welcome to the Peoples Republic of Chicago. They want to tell you that, and might say you have to go through a FFL holder to "purchase" a gun you already own, but that's bullshit. That's how this city works. They want you to pay someone for something when you don't need to. Unfortunately, a legal challenge will cost you money and they know it. I would keep anything I wanted in my house and just not say anything.

8/02/2012 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Join the ISRA , join the NRA call your State Reps & Senators ( except JJJ he is too busy to care what you think you just elected & pay him) Go the ISRA Lobby Day in Springfield Be polite but tell YOUR elected officals what YOU want if they don't vote your way tell them you will vote for their opponent in the next election. Don't vote Democrat and as far as the arrogant like prick Mayor and his Alderpuppets FUCK EM . Follow the laws as best you can but be safe and take care of yourself

8/02/2012 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

glock 19 is a good choice

8/02/2012 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

looks like starbucks will be getting into the bullet business soon--- " could I please have a triple venti latte and a box of 38 caliber wad cutters, I want to do a little plinking in my backyard later."--- rahm/daley/weis/mccarthy/quinn will all be sculpted into a piece of art in grant park similar to mount rushmore--- it will be called mount douchebag....

8/02/2012 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But McNutty says his new strategies are taking hold.

8/02/2012 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe they should let the police "be the police" again and stop worrying about every mutt out there crying racism every time he is stopped.

8/02/2012 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are these the same "Yuppies" that voted for BO, now they want guns. What a joke. Get a clue people, you are surrounded by shit in a city that is not prepared to do what it takes to clean it up.

8/02/2012 10:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only the cops HAVE to live here...

8/02/2012 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is why I was so mad when Mike Shields, Gorman and the FOP sold us out and endorsed Madigan's hand picked lackeys.

The Machine does not want us to defend ourselves.

Wonder why?

8/02/2012 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Colleen,

http://www.illinoiscarry.com/

8/02/2012 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please call Quinn's office!

217-782-0244

8/02/2012 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here we go again. These MFers will never quit:

GOVERNOR QUINN TEAMS UP WITH MAYOR RAHM EMANUEL TO PROPOSE BILL TO TAX AND BAN YOUR GUNS

YOUR IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED



As many of you know, Illinois Governor Pat Quinn today utilized his amendatory veto authority to hijack a pro-gun bill and convert it into a ban on so called assault weapons. Quinn claims that his bill would "...make Illinois a safer place."

Of course, lawful Illinois firearm owners know better. We know that Quinn's true aim is to obliterate private firearm ownership in the state. Closer analysis of Quinn's bill reveals a host of opportunities for Quinn and his buddy Emanuel to make life miserable for the state's lawful firearm owners.

Here is just a partial list of what this bill would do, if passed:

1. Ban the manufacture, possession or sale of nearly every semiautomatic rifle, pistol and shotgun you own.

2. Specifically ban Glock pistols since they share a common design with the Glock 18, a select fire handgun.

3. Require you to register every semiautomatic firearm and every magazine you own that exceeds 10 round capacity. The kicker is that, under Quinn's proposal, the State Police can charge you unlimited fees to register your guns. Thus if Quinn's bill passes, you could very well find yourself paying $100 or even $1,000 per firearm per year to comply with the law. Additionally, you could find yourself paying $50, $100 or even $500 per year for each "high capacity" magazine you own. Can't pay? Well then you would have to surrender your guns to the State Police for destruction.

This is just a taste of what you could expect from Quinn's gun ban. Twists and turns in the bill would certainly open up the doors to taxation, regulation, and outright bans on every civilian owned firearm in the state.

Oh, and one thing is for sure, you can forget about concealed carry if Quinn's gun ban passes.

HERE IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO PROTECT YOUR GUN RIGHTS:

1. Call your State Senator ASAP and politely tell him or her that you are a law-abiding Illinois firearm owner and that you expect him or her to vote against Quinn's gun ban should it come up for a vote. If you do not know who your State Senator is, please follow this link:

Illinois Board of Elections District Official/Search:
http://www.elections.state.il.us/DistrictLocator/DistrictOfficialSearchByAddress.aspx

2. Pass this alert on to all your friends and family who own firearms. Tell them to make calls to the senate as well.

3. Post this alert to any and all Internet blogs or bulletin boards to which you belong.

4. If you're not already a member of the ISRA, then it's time you signed on to protect your gun rights. To join the ISRA, follow this link: www.isra.org/join

5. Make a generous donation to the ISRA today so that we will be able to fight on against gun grabbers like Pat Quinn and Rahm Emanuel: www.isra.org/fight_4_your_rights.

8/02/2012 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Colleen,

please read this and ask yourself a few questions

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Mell forgot to re-register the weapons as required every year by the ordinance that he helped to pass as one of the City Council's most senior members.

So, what does an alderman do when he finds himself in violation of the law? He writes a new law. Mell has quietly introduced an ordinance that would reopen gun registration in Chicago and create a one-month amnesty for himself and other gun owners in the same predicament.

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http://nalert.blogspot.com/2008/05/chicago-alderman-dick-mell-re-writes.html

8/02/2012 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago is 100% a Democratic created disaster, stop voting for criminals and failure people!

8/02/2012 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

8/02/2012 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I sense an opportunity here--

8/02/2012 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"SCC you were going good until the last couple of sentences."

Your comment sucked from the start.

8/02/2012 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" I asked for his support of concealed carry in Illinois and his response was it would never happen,"

We'll let the Supreme Court decide if your second amendment rights end at your doorway. Sure the State can regulate conceal carry permitting process (license, training) but they can not take away our fundamental rights. Well, they have so far, but the lawsuits are working there way through the system. Hopefully we will get our rights restored and Rahm and Quinn will cut another check to the NRA for legal fees.

8/02/2012 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" I moved from out of state and already own my firearm. I've been told it has to be purchased here to be "legal" in regards to the current gun laws. This is coming from an officer I spoke to on the phone"

Assuming the gun is not banned by the city (i.e. >12 rounds, etc) you can register it even if you bought out of state and moved here. I am no attorney (or a cop) and you should either contact one or call the gun registration desk again.

Here is the applicable section of the city firearms ordinance (with a link to the police gun portal for more info):

"8-20-160 Restrictions on issuance of registration certificates. (a) Subject to subsections(b) and (c), the superintendent shall issue no more than one firearm registration certificate to a person for a handgun during any 30-day period; provided that the superintendent may permit a person first becoming a city resident to register more than one handgun if those handguns were lawfully owned in another jurisdiction for a period of 6 months the date of application."

https://portal.chicagopolice.org/portal/page/portal/ClearPath/About%20CPD/Firearm%20Registration

Again, this is not legal advice, just my interpretation of the firearms ordinance. Even if they deny you an permit you have a short period of time to either dispose of it or store it out of the city.

8/02/2012 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the police can't get there in time and we can't carry guns to protect ourselves.

HEY RAHM. FUCK YOU.

8/02/2012 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's an Old Town business that I gave rave reviews to. They even responded thanking me. My only option is that Sedgewick stop (no thanks anymore) or a cab (too expensive). I'd just as soon make a road trip to Eastern Market to a place you all hold such disdain for. It's a safer option. And I'm serious.

Get it together in this city.

8/02/2012 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For how many years did some of these people vote straight Democratic and write checks to "liberal" causes?

Now that the mess a lot of them helped create is right on their precious con-do-min-i-um doorstep, they want it to go somewhere else.

Hardly the first time I've seen Todd and Muffy fumbling around at the gun counter -- was it around '89 when the stock market was vaporizing in a big way? Talk about "deer in the headlights."

Propertypropertyproperty, going to protect what's mineminemineminemine. What, your Chinese canopy bed? Your B&O/MOMA stereo? Your collection of Me and Self magazines? (All of which sort of thing is shading towards "unsalable, worthless" in a depression.)

The thing about white "gentrification" is that it is actually aracial in nature, based mainly upon personal gain, and still vocally and materially supports destructive "social engineering" -- but at arm's length, they hope.

It is hollow at its core. I have pondered long and hard, and have concluded that the number of affluent trendies and gay couples with lots of disposable time and income must be finite, and is probably actually shrinking as the middle class is eliminated. I think it is in fact just the same people moving across the cityscape, "discovering" one neighborhood, driving up rents and prices, and then moving off again when "you can't afford to live here anymore!"

A lot of the in-fill in these neighborhoods is coming from immigration -- the white replacement birthrate is dropping.

Anyway, you can own something without being a complete a___ole all the time. Maybe don't be still wearing that brokerage photo work ID around your neck on the custom ribbon at 11:30 PM when you call the police about "half-eaten food thrown on my property!" Maybe see a good doctor and have that real estate calculator replaced with a human heart.

It is evident that a certain impression has been transmitted over the years, huh? All I know is what I see...

8/02/2012 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jesus Christ!

http://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/Colorado-Arsenal-Available-to-Chicago-Gangs-via-Internet-163492076.html

Talk about misinformation!

Instead of saying "Gun dealers have websites, let us explain the tightly regulated, license-based process you must follow to buy one", they simply say "GUNS FOR SALE ON THE INTERNET!!!"

They also directly say in that article that the Colorado shooter purchased AR15's and Glocks off the internet and had them shipped to his house.

Sometimes I wonder how much of this sort of bullshit is deliberate misinformation versus ordinary stupidity, where people who know jack shit about a particular issue (in spite of having a very specific opinion about it) insist on writing elaborate stories with no emphasis on facts.

8/02/2012 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we must protect the CHILDREN !!!!!

it's all about the CHILDREN !!!!

8/02/2012 02:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me point out one fact you continue to ignore. Handguns are only good for one thing. Killing human beings. How about we ban the manufacture of them? Maybe that would solve the problem.

If I'm not mistaken, everyone could carry a gun in the old West. Did that reduce or increase the killing of human beings?


The old west you are referring to is a construct of Hollywood. Shootings, show downs and duels were as uncommon in the west as in the east. Look it up. The old west was less dangerous than a typical big city is today or was back then.

So the answer you couldn't be bothered to look up on your own is "reduced."

More guns = Less crime.

Fact.

8/02/2012 02:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Jack Tors said...

Honey, I frequent 1349 N Wells in Old Town and it is very safe there. If anyone messes with me, I will slap them silly!

8/02/2012 02:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Republican v. Democrat? The truth is most people do not fully understand all issues that each party stands for, and then the factors that go into making those issues a reality. The economy and domestic and foreign relations were dreadful with young Bush. They are worse with Obama. This is NOT a party issue, there is way more involved in it. Lobbyists are the MOST powerful in this country, then congress are second. Lobbyist work on the sell. We all want something (or do not want to lose something we think we are entitled to - and lobbyist make this happen for a price). Lobbyists get it done regadless of right or wrong or party affiliation. So before bashing either party or praising either party,let's all educate ourselves. Regarding guns, let's face it..they are meant to kill. Yes, I would kill someone in self-defense, but who I vote for, doesn't have a say in that. (Anyone who wants a gun, can get one). Hell....my biggest issue is the damn taxes...the more kids you have the better the tax break. I should get a tax break b/c I do not have kids taking up room in the schools. That'll never happen...b/c it's logic.

8/02/2012 03:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT -
Recently learned from my brother who works at Motorola that they landed the contract for the City of Chicago security cameras (also known as $$$ generators).

Gee, ya think this deal was struck in order to get Motorola to move from Libertyville to Chicago?????

Inquiring minds want to know...

8/02/2012 03:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What don't you understand about "shall not be infringed"?

The part where it is.

8/02/2012 04:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not just yuppies that want guns, it's Blue-Hairs and Grey-Beards too.

A ways back,  my Congressmen, Danny Davis, had a Townhall meeting in my neighborhood, Streeterville.  The attendees were 70% percent Blue-Hairs/Grey-Beards and the rest under 50 something out of an audience of about 50 people.

The comments to Davis by the elder attendees was complaints about wasteful Post Office spending, too many mailboxes in the area and the paper wastefulness of the long receipts that are printed out at the Post Office.

Eventually, Davis begins his gun control pitch and a younger guy calls him out, pointing out that guns and spray paint have been outlawed for 25+ years in Chicago, and yet, who has the guns and spray paint that is causing the city so much trouble? Lawbreakers, troublemakers, gangbangers. The guy reminds Davis that we have the right to protect ourselves, codified in the 2nd Amendment and if Davis thinks our founding fathers were wrong giving us that right, what other constitutional rights might Davis feel we are not worthy? He also reminded Davis that this City once had prohibition of alcohol and that didn't work so well and that prohibiting guns hasn't reduced crime. He pointed out to the room that we've seen the United Nations ban arms to places like Iraq and that did noting to keep nation states from supplying Iraq with Arms.

When the guy finished, he got applause from over 60% of the people in that room.

Davis was dumbfounded. So was I.  I'm pro gun rights but I never expected such a positive response from such a gathering in such a highly liberal city.

I learned, the majority of the people get it.

You give these politicians enough rope to dictate your "values" (Rahm's Chick-Fil-a rant) and your constitutional rights, and -- they'll hang you with it.

8/02/2012 04:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The old west you are referring to is a construct of Hollywood. Shootings, show downs and duels were as uncommon in the west as in the east. Look it up. The old west was less dangerous than a typical big city is today or was back then."

--8/02/2012 02:30:00 PM


Absolutely.

"More guns = Less crime."

Also true -- but only to a point.

I do not like hearing s__t being cocked behind me, turning around to find myself looking down a muzzle, etc.

Where? The last gun show I ever went to in Greyslake, was it?

F__ing illegals, fumbling and fingering and snapping that which their own government back home doesn't trust them with any farther than it can spit. For a good reason. Brainless.

Here we stand. The man examining the edge on a case neck chamfering tool, interrupted by some organism stupidly tugging and straining trying to get a pump-action to open -- both equals under the law.

The big question -- "Can the Second Amendment survive 'multiculturalism'?"

8/02/2012 04:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Sometimes I wonder how much of this sort of bullshit is deliberate misinformation versus ordinary stupidity..."

--8/02/2012 02:01:00 PM

A combination of both. Can't remember what anti-gunner said roughly "We can exploit the public's confusion about automatic versus semi-automatic weapons."

What ever happened to that Mark Karlin jerk who used to make so much anti-gun noise around here? Had a "non-profit" organization going that from what I could tell illegally engaged in lobbying, providing its mailing list to anti-gun political candidates.

8/02/2012 05:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Gee, ya think this deal was struck in order to get Motorola to move from Libertyville to Chicago?????"

I doubt it. A thousand of those cameras wouldn't amount to shit to Motorola's bottom line. That Motorola group is now owned by Google, they care about billions not a few cameras.

8/02/2012 05:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go out and buy yourself a good quality revolver, in the largest caliber you can handle safely. DONT REGISTER IT! It's none of the City's business. Practice with it. Keep it safely in your home, and if you need to use it, use it. As long as you are legally justified to use deadly force (according to the ILCS), you will be fine. Yes the City will confiscate teh gun, and yes you may get hit with a Chicago ordinance violation, but no state charges will be filed, as no ASA wants to be the one who prosecuted a law abiding homeowner who was in fear for their or their families lives. The Chicago law is only a local ordinance, not state law, and as such, carries only a fine. Fuck Chicago's ordinance, go arm yourself, the bad guys already are...

8/02/2012 06:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

there is an organization called "
Pink Pistols" geared to lbgt community
an armed society is a polite socicty
look at milwaukee and fla they have
ccw and there's no shoot outs there
there is a million ccw permits in fla
so where the bloodshed
so those "facts" of more guns means more shootings is not fact
think of it
if you thought the blue haired little old lady with the shopping bag fill with kabasa and bread was carry a .357 you would think twice about grabbing the purse

8/02/2012 06:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wouldn't it be nice, if Chicago, Oak Park, and Evanston became their own "People's Republic of Leftist Obscurantists," and left the remaining legal citizens in Illinois to live in a state that is covered by the entire U.S. Constitution?

Oh to dare to dream!

8/02/2012 07:51:00 PM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

Naaawww!

Say it ain't so!

These soft and pampered Tiny-Dancer & Sparkle-Farts voters and supporters are ACTUALLY going to man up and defend themselves?

Why this is Chicago for Trotsky's sake!

Only those big, mean, insensitive, blue-collar, heavy-fisted Cops (*shudder!*) with violent and anti-social tendencies carry guns!

Dear Leader Rahm says Chicago is safe!

Nevermind what you se with your very own eyes!

Sarcasm: (Off)/On

Heh-heh! We present you with...

Chicago Police Dept. Golden Rules For Gunfighting*

(* With all due credit to The U.S.M.C. Semper Fi and God Bless!)

Rule #21: WATCH their HANDS! Hands kill. (Aye... In GOD We Trust... The rest of you rotten muthafuckahs keep your hands where we can see 'em!)

Rule #22: Decide to be AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH QUICKLY ENOUGH!

Rule #23: The faster you finish the fight, the less shotified you'll be.

Rule #24: Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone & everything you encounter should it become necessary.

Rule #25: Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one.

Rule #26: (AMEN!) Your #1 option for personal safety is a lifelong commitment to preparation, deterrence, de-escalation and avoidance.

"WAH! You Cops are so mean, hateful and crazy! You scare us!"

"Baaahhh?" O_o? Said the sheep as they were devoured hindparts first while grazing...

Welcome to the pain and sorrow of the real world.

Isn't it liberating?

That cynical laughter of the damned you hear is that of those who've gone eyeball to eyeball with those devils and things that go bump in the night.

Maybe some of you can have the same nightmares some of us have...

8/02/2012 09:26:00 PM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

@ 8/02/2012 04:52:00 PM...

"I do not like hearing s__t being cocked behind me..."

We second your sentiment sir...

"Can the Second Amendment Survive 'multiculturalism'?"

We living in this era are the test case... History will render it's judgement after we, our children and their children's children have gone on to glory.

Given the current Chicago, D.C. & North Shore shit-assery working the levers of national policy... Our gut tells us no. The Second Amendment will not survive multiculturalism.

American Exceptionalism and the best of American Culture are and have been under attack by traitorous lefty trotskyite shit-asses.

Unless we take the pains to correctly educate our children.

It's going to end up being THEIR fight eventually.

We must not fail them...

8/02/2012 09:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The big question -- "Can the Second Amendment survive 'multiculturalism'?"

8/02/2012 04:52:00 PM



or:



can multiculturalism survive the Second Amendment?

8/02/2012 10:17:00 PM  
Blogger Winston Kotzan said...

I previously lived in Chicago, but moved to Indianapolis and got a new job. Crime was a factor in spurring my decision to leave the city I love so much. My car was broken into - window smashed, computer stolen. Feels like anything you take your eyes off will get stolen. My wife and I were fortunate enough to not have directly encountered violent crime, except for one evening when we were walking through Lincoln Park near Webster Ave and heard a gunshot in an alley along with a flash. (We turned around and headed the other way.)

You are not safe anywhere in the city, even in the upscale neighborhoods. Criminals know that all law abiding citizens in Chicago are unarmed - especially in public.

Indianapolis is much safer... lawful citizens can carry.

8/02/2012 10:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Would you people just skip the cameras and go for the bullet proof glass/turnstyles already? Whatever image you had in the past is shot (no pun intended).

The gas station at Addison/Halsted (across the street from the state-of-the-art new police station) just totally revamped their counter so it's not so, let's just say, "open". I hate going there but it's sometimes convenient. I couldn't help but notice the camera RIGHT IN YOUR FACE at the register with the new "remodeling". I have nothing to be concerned about but it's almost intrusive. Click, click away.

Like Detroit, I'm just curious as to what this place called Chicago was back in it's heyday. Uptown?

8/03/2012 01:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop taking for granted that someone else is going to save and protect you or assume that any law is going to be a successful deterrent to keep an insane person in check.


No truer words have been spoken.

A nut walks into a theater and shoots it up and what does our gov do? He wants a ban on assault weapons. Well, that IS cheaper than hiring more police. AND it makes for a great sound clip around election time.

Of course, the anti-gun group will be all over this. Trying to convince the rest of us that all guns are some type of alien (like in the Transformer movies). At one moment they look benign, the next they sprout arm and legs and start shooting themselves at people (the "Honor student" seems to be the target of choice in Chicago).

But I wonder that if the anti-gun crowd appreciates the irony that those same politicians that are telling you that we need to ban guns enjoy the protection of armed escorts 24/7.

Even Chicago Aldermen, though they may not all have armed body guards like Ed Burke, are allowed to carry a concealed weapon. Yet John Q. Public is being told that if they did that, it would be the wild west all over again.

8/03/2012 07:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please don't pull the "only republicans love guns". I'm a democrat, and I'm all for guns and being able to protect yourself.

8/03/2012 12:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Let me point out one fact you continue to ignore. Handguns are only good for one thing. Killing human beings."

--8/02/2012 08:53:00 AM


"Fact," shit.

Fine.

* YOU -- not just those people over there, but YOU personally -- should absolutely not be allowed to have an effective means of self-defense.

* Since guns are bad, and police have guns, don't ever call the police for protection either.

Now go away.

8/03/2012 02:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Windy City Irish Pollack said:

Good evening SCC, everybody -

Yeah, these anecdotal asides re. yuppies 'seeing the light' are hopeful... But I wouldn't get too excited.

Why?

I lived the first thirty-three years of my life in Lakeview, right across the street from Illinois Masonic's emergency room. I attended St. Sebastian's school for eight years, at the corner of Wellington and Halsted.

In those days, many of my peers were the children of ex-hippies, artists, bohemians (not the Czech variety, mind you), you-name-it. Ours was among the handful of 'normal' families in the entire neighborhood. And the gays were everywhere back then...

The bottom line is this: these people will never learn. I'm not entirely sure what's gone wrong with the reasoning faculties of these leftists, but they are - all of them - a bunch of pussies who can only muster indignation at the plight of gays, minorities, Third Worlders, gay-minority-Third-Worlders, whatever. They couldn't give a flying you-know-what about taking responsibility for their own safety, and they couldn't give a shit about yours or mine. As far as these effete, self-hating white jag-offs are concerned, they actually enjoy living on the edge of annihilation and somehow square it with the guilt they feel about being born white and 'privileged'. It's enough to make me vomit.

If you good people of the CPD don't get it, please take it from me: these people hate you and always will. Shit, they hate themselves, so why shouldn't they hate you, too?

As a previous poster eloquently put it, there is blood on the hands of the mayor and governor. But blood has been on the hands of every member of the Daley Crime Family, every alderman, every state and federal rep and senator for years. Anywhere else in this country, a normal, well-adjusted and LOCAL man would throw his hat into the ring and turn all of this shit around in a matter of weeks: end all prohibitive gun laws; allow concealed carry everywhere in the state; throw out gun registrations; hire five thousand cops with the funds saved from all the corrupt spending sprees he ended; tell the black and hispanic 'communities' they have x-days to get their shit together, or else the welfare, set-asides and all other aid will cease forever; end 'sanctuary city' status and have a newly robust and vibrant CPD checking the immigration status of every potential perp they come across.

FInally, enact what I call the PNG law: if you belong to a gang, commit a violent crime, rob, assault or carry drugs, you are henceforth banished from the state of Illinois for the rest of your natural life. You may persist in your criminal ways or you may be rehabilitated: either way, you aren't doing it here, ever again.

The crime rate would be decimated and we could live free from fear, danger and murder as God intended it. This is my dream...

But I have zero faith in these leftists ever waking up...

Keep up the great work, SCC.

Windy City Irish Pollack

8/03/2012 11:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Quinn/Emanuel/Daley terror trilogy continue to be the BEST salesmen of guns and ammunition.

They'll never learn. Never.

8/04/2012 02:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Let me point out one fact you continue to ignore. Handguns are only good for one thing. Killing human beings."

Let us know where you live. I promise, and I'm quite sure others will also promise, never to use our firearms to protect you/your family.

P.S. Please don't call 9-1-1 in case you're home-invaded, etc.

Handle it yourself. Maybe you can negotiate your way out.

8/04/2012 02:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Even Chicago Aldermen, though they may not all have armed body guards like Ed Burke, are allowed to carry a concealed weapon. Yet John Q. Public is being told that if they did that, it would be the wild west all over again."

John Q. is too stupid to own a gun.

Look who he keeps electing.

P.S. The "wild" west had less crime per capita.

8/04/2012 02:09:00 AM  
Anonymous noone90210 said...

Let me point out one fact you continue to ignore. Handguns are only good for one thing. Killing human beings. How about we ban the manufacture of them? Maybe that would solve the problem.

Yes, handguns are good for killing humans, provided that a human pulls the handgun's trigger.

While banning the manufacture of (new) handguns sounds like a great idea, it wouldn't stop humans from pulling triggers of existing handguns.

8/04/2012 03:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While banning the manufacture of (new) handguns sounds like a great idea, it wouldn't stop humans from pulling triggers of existing handguns.

8/04/2012 03:21:00 AM




4 foot machetes for EVERYONE!

8/04/2012 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While banning the manufacture of (new) handguns sounds like a great idea, it wouldn't stop humans from pulling triggers of existing handguns.

8/04/2012 03:21:00 AM
****************
I am over 50 years old now, I suppose your solution is for me to hide under my bed and never venture out now that I'm too old to fight off 2 or 3 20 year olds, intent on either taking my property or hurting me. The right to keep and bear arms is not about hunting or sporting. It's about self defense and it's just too bad you never learned that.

Democrats, stupid as the day is long.

8/04/2012 05:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"FInally, enact what I call the PNG law: if you belong to a gang, commit a violent crime, rob, assault or carry drugs, you are henceforth banished from the state of Illinois for the rest of your natural life. You may persist in your criminal ways or you may be rehabilitated: either way, you aren't doing it here, ever again."

--8/03/2012 11:47:00 PM

I have thought of something modeled along the lines of the old S&H Green Stamps savings books -- every offense gets you a stamp, or several stamps pasted in, and there's only room for 100.

Disorderly conduct = 1 stamp.

Murder = 100 stamps.

100 1-stamp bullshit arrests add up to 100 stamps also. "Chronic hazard to others, inability to adjust to basic civilized norms" a capital offense, same as murder.

Something along those lines.

8/04/2012 05:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...better for you is to purchase a .38 snubby, Colt, Smith, Ruger, Taurus, etc., +P rated, and expect that, if you have to use it, you may lose it..."

--8/02/2012 08:22:00 AM

Good idea except for the Taurus. Not what they are cracked up to be, second-rate pieces. Their revolvers go out of time very easily, brittle transfer bars snap off and leave you with a paperweight, cylinders come loose, etc.

I would not trust my life to one.

8/04/2012 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous noone90210 said...

I am over 50 years old now, I suppose your solution is for me to hide under my bed and never venture out now that I'm too old to fight off 2 or 3 20 year olds, intent on either taking my property or hurting me. The right to keep and bear arms is not about hunting or sporting. It's about self defense and it's just too bad you never learned that. Democrats, stupid as the day is long.

8/04/2012 05:11:00 PM


My reply, 8/04/2012 03:21:00 AM, had nothing to do with self-defense, etc.

For your information (FYI), I support gun ownership and am definitely NOT a Democrat.

Also, FYI, I was replying to 8/02/2012 08:53:00 AM.

8/05/2012 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Let me point out one fact you continue to ignore. Handguns are only good for one thing. Killing human beings."

And let me point out one fact YOU continue to ignore; Some people need to be killed.

rb

8/05/2012 03:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And let me point out one fact YOU continue to ignore; Some people need to be killed.

rb

8/05/2012 03:01:00 AM





I haven't had an orthodox career, and I've wanted more than anything to have your respect.

The first time I didn't feel it, but this time I feel it, and I can't deny the fact that you like me, right now, you like me!






Chalkie

8/05/2012 05:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh so now that the yuppies are scared guns are ok?
Die Yuppy Scum!

8/05/2012 06:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yuppies and Liberals need to get with the program.

hoodrats and the various other gheto shithooks don't rob other shithooks.

They're gonna go where the gettin's good....YOUR neighborhood!

8/06/2012 07:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also a tad bit insulting to the Life Time NRA members that are Democrat or Independents (Like me)


if you're a lifetime NRA member and still voting for democrats...

you're an idiot.

8/06/2012 07:38:00 AM  

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