Um...What's the Point of This?
The Watchdogs are watching ....what exactly?
All we can figure is that the Watchdogs see the coppers who care enough to take the test getting money and somehow that must be wrong.
- To encourage cops to keep fit, the city of Chicago has spent nearly $10.8 million over the past 12 years rewarding police officers who passed a yearly fitness test.
Most cops, though, don’t bother to take the voluntary test, according to city records.
Rather than provide an incentive for Chicago’s finest to get and stay in fighting shape, the program appears to be rewarding officers who already are physically fit, while doing little to encourage overweight officers to get in shape.
All we can figure is that the Watchdogs see the coppers who care enough to take the test getting money and somehow that must be wrong.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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City sucks when it comes to supporting the employees. Employees are treated like misfits yet are the exact ones who typically pay their taxes on time and every other damn thing that is required of them....so go suck a tree city of Chicago.
Why is this news? Cops aren't millionaires or billionaires.
How come the media doesn't say anything about the tax dollars the mayor throws at the firms, hotels and other companies that have donated to his campaign? This is where the money is going. Cops aren't robbing the house. The mayor is. But the media pulls the wool over people's eyes while saying, "No, don't look over there. Look over here."
18th district officers are about to get a rude awakening regarding uniform and personal appearance issues. We see quite a few officers bidding out shortly.
Seems to be a lot of negative stories about the police on Chicago media. Guess nobody loves the police any more.
Why do we want to encourage police officers to maintain their fitness?
Obviously the money is wasted on them. It should be spent on bike lanes, summer festivals, and redecorating aldermen offices.
/sarc
Not sure what is opinion based. There are a few numbers presented. Very few cops take test, most pass.
Another document dump by Rahm to vilify
and dirty up The Police.
Hate to say it SCC, but it is kind of wrong. It's equivalent to giving a math teacher some cash every year that teacher is still able to add 2 plus 2, or a construction worker a bonus each year that the worker is able to demonstrate the ability to carry a 2x4 up a flight of stairs or a fireman a bonus because he/she is still able to pull the hose off the truck. Those are all minimal standards expected at the time of hire and standards that should be maintained while on the job. When those standards can no longer be achieved; standards that were established just to get on the job in the first place, that person is no longer viable at that job and is unfairly collecting a paycheck on someone else s dime. In a city that is already running very deep in the red, paying an employee a bonus on top of raises to be able to do what is expected is wrong. Apply that to a soldier who passes basic training but 2 years into his/her tour of duty is unable to run across the field with their field pack and rifle. Scary stuff. Coppers are stuck in a no win situation on many levels one of which is that they are under the label of "city employee". When teachers strike because they are the highest paid in the land, turn out one on the worst products nationally but refuse to go back to work because they aren't getting enough money, or former aldermen are given 6 figure jobs for doing nothing after they lose their election, or 6 streets and san workers are seen standing around a single manhole laughing and joking on the clock before getting in their 35 thousand dollar Silverado's while the construction horses sit on corners, slow traffic for weeks on end, and add more dents and dings to the 13 year old rust bucket the average Joe just trying to make ends meat on what is left after taxes are taken to pay the "city workers" for nothing more than the look of progress being made, there is some hatred developed and an "us and them" mentality sets in which takes us to the point of the article. When you can no longer hit the curveball, why are you on the roster? So to give a cop extra money on top of what that cop is already being paid just for being able to physically be a cop and do what is already expected, there will be a backlash in the form of an article or two and an expose'on more government waste.
People pay a lot of money for police services. So they should pay cops extra to be physically fit enough to perform their duties? Not to mention keeping the cost of healthcare down and time lost on the medical.
Nice picture of a fat ass in uniform to go along with this opinion piece. They complain that cops are overweight and out of shape and then complain about a program that encourages physical fitness. Fuck the Scum Times and all the socialists that work there.
The "WATCHDOGS". More like "HORSESHIT NEWSPAPER"
Idiot Jody Weis should leave town already.
C'mon, it's obviously another hit piece on the CPD. That's why they show the fatass in the picture. They could just as easily shown a trim, slim young guy. It's not like their are not enough of those kind of guys OTJ. And what's the whole point anyway other than to try and embarrass the CPD? We SAVED the taxpayers money.
95% of the population 16 and older couldn't do the power test. And that's scary.
I ve earned that midsection!
I don't agree with the article. I'm one of those guys that is consistently about 20 lbs overweight. if it weren't for the physical fitness test I guarantee that 20 lbs would turn to 30 lbs and 30 to 40. There are a lot of officers in good shape that take the test for the money and good for them. They deserve it for staying in good shape. Guys like me will never be marathon runners (although is DO run the Run To Remember 5k) so for me the power test keeps me from getting too far out of shape.
"Fighting shape " ??? Who exactly are we fighting? I thought we are supposed to be impartial, un-biased robots.
Well, if they're concerned that it's not incentivizing out of shape officers, I would the only rational thing to do would be to make the reward large enough that it does incentivize officers. How does $2000 sound to everyone else? If I wasn't in shape, I'd get in shape for $2000.
Yawn fluff piece
Police lives matter .
How about an article on how many cases are generated by each race? The answer would be earth shattering.
OT
Demo-commie Bernie Sanders get ran off the stage by Black Lives Matters
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/08/bernie-sanders-leaves-seattle-stage-after-event-disrupted-by-black-lives-matter-protesters/
BLM helping Hilary? ?
Things must be very slow for Novak, or his bread n butter has run out. Now picking on the overweight and the physically fit at the same time.
First of all in the article it says that there are over 12,000 police we all know that's wrong, maybe the watchdogs should be watching the real police numbers, and get back to us.
All the police near my pretty loft seem to be in great shape.
That's the way I like my police!
I have to sit down now. I think I am going to get a case of the vapors.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
What? How much money (govt.) was spent on this nonsense.
I'm still in pretty good shape considering 13 years of football, and multiple surgeries. I work out 3 to 4 times a week. I cycle and row for my cardio and still lift weights. I don't take the power test because running a mile and a half is not good for me, I can do it but why. The sit up portion of the test is ridiculous,you will not not find a personal trainer or fitness instructor who will tell you to do full range of motion sit ups for an exercise. And the sit and reach what the hell is that about, to measure your flexibility, who cares. I am not a flexible person that's just the way I was made. I stretch and stretch but I can only get so far. They need to update the power test like a majority of things on this department. They should keep the bench press, do a 100 yard dash, have a firearms portion under stressful situations that gets your heart rate up and maybe an obstacle course of some kind, something more practical.
Maybe the sun times can learn how to spell the word "receive" properly if they are paid more. Just a thought.
Hey, I have an idea for the people who complain about overweight police officers.
They can come and work shitty hours, especially the ten hour shifts [fuck you Garry], shitty police hating districts, no decent restaurants to eat at in the ghetto, especially at night and most everything is closed, stress from the public that hates the police, no matter what we do and second guess everything, family issues even though the dept. can give to shits about family despite what the brassholes say [it's all about them], and what do you have, a work force that can't stay fit because of all the stresses in life and that can't wait to leave the job!
Have you noticed the F.O.P. retirement lists lately, very few people with 30 and 40 years on this job. Most in the mid 20's and leaving as soon as the door opens for them!
KMA
I take the power test yearly and It motivates me to jog and stay in shape.
Doesn't anyone remember those massive round body cops that lumbered their way out of the 1980's? 300 pounders were all over, even a few approaching 400 pounds, they could not get in a squad car. It was embarrassing just to look at them in their enormous uniforms. They couldn't even walk the St Jude march, the couple of blocks that took along Michigan Ave saw the huge bodies dropping out after a block or less. There was a huge sgt. in 019 who couldn't make the then short march after they moved to the CPD Memorial location. He dropped out mid-way huffing and puffing. From walking! I watched that guy balloon to enormous proportions during his career. He was famous for his terrible odor from unwashed folds of blubber! No amount of fitness money would ever induce them to push away from the buffet. Simply, there are no fitness standards. The Dept. made some noises years ago and then... nothing.
I would think those taking the test are getting into shape by doing something. Maybe some of those people were out of shape until the incentive making it a success. You can not help everyone to get in shape.
If the watchdogs are being paid to be watchdogs, then they will generate anything just for the sake of job security.
The city needs to make it worth the officers time. The paltry sum of money is hardly worth the time or any effort it takes to pass the fitness test.
Scc you don't know everything we do it wrong. Say for example a car plunged into the chicago river with 4 passengers. Say some coppers on view it jump in the river and save three passengers while one dies. It would be the coppers fault for not saving him. Heaomes would read cops not good enough to save man.
That the Sun Times ran this story on page 1 is a perfect indication of why they're in decline
You need to be in decent shape, not great shape to do non-preventative police work, like writing case reports and coding out jobs. Getting out of the car, chasing these jagoffs, jumping fences and fighting them? Uh, no. Now, excuse me while I finish my maple bacon long john doughnut.
P.S. Blue lives matter!
A small percentage of you are fit. And your union president is "disabled." Classic!
Is this called journalism? Or just another hit piece? In the same news paper Fran Spielman did a so called news article on Patrick Daley Thompson. The new alderman of the 11th ward. It was such a glowing piece. Detailing how he is so dedicated and fully serves the community. How his grandmother Sis Daley baked sweets for him and he was seven years old when old man Richard J Daley/grandfather died. What a complete joke.
This is one example of how people in this country are slowly waking up and realizing that the media is nothing but a mouth piece for the corporate and government elite. They see such news pieces and know how one after another is disguised as news but it is slanted hit pieces. That is one reason why the public is supporting Donald Trump. They hate how even Fox News is going after some comment he said about women being slobs. Give me a fucking break.
Just the latest hit piece ordered by Emanuel.
Crains ran a hit piece last week blaming Chicago's sky rocketing violence on your pension.
Hey Novak, what do you want? Do you want the 10 mil so Emanuel can double his subsidy of Divvy for his friend Ms. Cohen?
It's time for Sun-Times drivers to start obeying traffic laws. Safety, Transparency, and all that......
The funny part is that you don't even have to be in shape or work out to pass it. Just do some sit ups a few weeks before and tuff out the run. The run may feel miserable if you haven't ran all year but you can do it if you're not 80lbs over weight.
3:30AM...
5:20AM...
Hate say but the entire discussion starts from a false premise. Some of the best POs I've known have been overweight. You don't need to be Superman to be a police officer.
Personally, some years I take the test, some I don't. Frankly, I hate driving to the Academy, making it a lost day, and disrupting my sleep and homelife because I work midnights by choice after 25 years on the job.
I don't know why the power test is not given during the promotional process. I hate to say it but I agree that we cops should have to pass the power test annually and upon promotional exams. You have to pass the power test for SEAT and the Summer Bike detail but not to get promoted?
Poor poor 1488....enough said.
Ahem....At the risk of being criticized, I agree with the premise of the story. I don't know anyone who actually "trains" to pass this. All of the people who do this, consider it easy money. They should make the test harder. Nothing to be ashamed of here. It's nice to hear the truth. Now I am going to take a nap. I am tired of clicking mouse buttons, and typing.
Over 40 people shot and 10 dead in less then 2 nights with the weekend totals not over and the News of the town is why police officers are not working out for free cash! I must be living in the twilight zone.....
I would love to take the test. However, since being injured on duty several time, the city never really paid for what I needed, so I can not do what they want.
Get us proper medical treatment and better doctors who are allowed to do what they need to do and I'll sign up.
can't run in my crown cap and long sleeve in the summer!I CAN RUN IN MY BASEBALL HAT AND SHORT SLEEVE!!
Personally, I agree with the article. Cops who care enough about their health and appearance will pass that test every year, year after year. And the measly $250 (before taxes) won't encourage the masses of lardasses to get off their butts and trim down. What the city should do is incorporate physical fitness standards which must be met of all new hires, after a certain date, or extract penalties for those who cannot or will not maintain fitness. It would certainly ease up on medical costs, and would make officers far more productive than they currently are now. There's nothing the city could do or (realistically) offer the lardasses to get into shape, and the city cannot mandate them to do so, as it would have to be negotiated with the unions, and you know what that means, the city would have to give up something to get this (I don't think most officers would support it with their union heads anyway, most are too far gone down the road of fat to rebuild themselves).
It's just too bad the news article didn't post a pic of former cmdr. Harley Schinker in the paper...what a fine specimen of fitness he was!
maybe the city should make all coppers take the test just to see how many pass. if the percentage that pass the test rises each year then the program is deemed successful.
The so-called watchdogs should be happy that hardly anybody takes the test. It saves rahm all kinds of money.
I passed the power test yearly, for free, before they had the cash incentive. Fitness was never an issue with me. On the job, I developed a herniated disk and a heart condition. Not unusual. I guess if they wanted to hold me to a running or flexibility standard at some point in my career I might pass with duress, who knows. The point is a lot of cops would be challenged by this and might fail due to injuries, etc. Due to the performance of their duties. Would the taxpayer be willing to pay for a tax free disability, or the litigation? That is why this isn't mandatory. Disability obligation and litigation costs. You will never see it, fat cops or not.
18th district officers are about to get a rude awakening regarding uniform and personal appearance issues. We see quite a few officers bidding out shortly
What are the uniform issues??
People pay a lot of money for police services. So they should pay cops extra to be physically fit enough to perform their duties? Not to mention keeping the cost of healthcare down and time lost on the medical.
8/09/2015 05:20:00 AM
Which people ? Not the people in the ghetto who get most of the police service - the people who pay the most are the same people you're talking about - cops (who are also taxpayers). Also - they have a health program " Chicago Lives Healthy" - which forces cops to participate in - or pay $100 a month extra if you don't participate. I don't think they should pay cops extra for being in shape - but if I'm out of shape I shouldn't have to pay extra either. The medical is a whe different issue - has nothing to do with being in shape - just an abused system for a small group of dogs - they promised to clean that up a long time ago - how many people have been fired for medical abuse ?
Don't worry folks remember the police hating Daily Defender?
The Scum Times will soon follow in it's foot steps. The Defender hated the police and put noting but hate articles about the police but the ghetto rats still refused to buy it and eventually it was gone.
Now if we could just get rid of the ghetto rats themselves. LOL
Anonymous said...
Isn't the south and west sides of Chicago just like Gary?
8/09/2015 12:31:00 PM
Karma like a mug. Haha!
Anonymous said...
Hate to say it SCC, but it is kind of wrong. It's equivalent to giving a math teacher some cash every year that teacher is still able to add 2 plus 2, or a construction worker a bonus each year that the worker is able to demonstrate the ability to carry a 2x4 up a flight of stairs or a fireman a bonus because he/she is still able to pull the hose off the truck. Those are all minimal standards expected at the time of hire and standards that should be maintained while on the job. When those standards can no longer be achieved; standards that were established just to get on the job in the first place, that person is no longer viable at that job and is unfairly collecting a paycheck on someone else s dime. In a city that is already running very deep in the red, paying an employee a bonus on top of raises to be able to do what is expected is wrong. Apply that to a soldier who passes basic training but 2 years into his/her tour of duty is unable to run across the field with their field pack and rifle. Scary stuff. Coppers are stuck in a no win situation on many levels one of which is that they are under the label of "city employee". When teachers strike because they are the highest paid in the land, turn out one on the worst products nationally but refuse to go back to work because they aren't getting enough money, or former aldermen are given 6 figure jobs for doing nothing after they lose their election, or 6 streets and san workers are seen standing around a single manhole laughing and joking on the clock before getting in their 35 thousand dollar Silverado's while the construction horses sit on corners, slow traffic for weeks on end, and add more dents and dings to the 13 year old rust bucket the average Joe just trying to make ends meat on what is left after taxes are taken to pay the "city workers" for nothing more than the look of progress being made, there is some hatred developed and an "us and them" mentality sets in which takes us to the point of the article. When you can no longer hit the curveball, why are you on the roster? So to give a cop extra money on top of what that cop is already being paid just for being able to physically be a cop and do what is already expected, there will be a backlash in the form of an article or two and an expose'on more government waste.
8/09/2015 03:30:00 AM
I really, really...really, really, really get turned off by the military comparisons. In the Army 1. you work out during your duty day and often in groups WITH EVEN YOUR BOSSES PARTICIPATING 2. are tested on physical fitness twice a year 3. you receive promotion points based on how well you do on your fitness exam. That is completely different than our job. Fitness and appearance is much more valued in the military. As great as the gym body appears, most of the best officers I have worked with were not that guy. I can think of two that were serious about both health and fitness. Two. And even then it's not just so I can fight. There are a ton of muscle bound guys that can't throw no hands. Let's be serious. The real deal is the guys/girls who are doing it for their livelihood...their health, their physiology etc.
Off topic
http://www.wandtv.com/story/29696974/a-state-police-trooper-and-another-man-are-arrested-in-danville
A stupid article written by a stupid dumb fuck "journalist". All credibility lost when this asshole says there are 12,500 police officers. Way to do your homework jagoffs. And of course firemen get paid more for the same test
Wow, that was journalism at its finest. Bet that brain surgeon conducted hours of research to obtain that information to present to the masses.
True, we have some really overwieght coppers out there, but there is nothing to indicate that the picture portrays a Chicago police officer, no shoulder patches, nothing that is visible on the gun belt that would indicate he is a police officer, just an old fashion baton that a security guard could pick up at a uniform store. True there are dozens of pictures out there that show fat ass cops, but this picture is just as misleading as the story itself. But we are presented as overweight slobs. Private corporations give out bonuses and nothing is said, that bonus money is passed on the consumer.
How about looking into an alder creature getting beat up by a tranny at 3AM in Englewood
1:54am
Hey rip van winkle, have a nice sleep did ya?
18th district officers are about to get a rude awakening regarding uniform and personal appearance issues. We see quite a few officers bidding out shortly.
8/09/2015 12:42:00 AM
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Maybe the 018th Dist business Sgt should wear a uniform
Anonymous said...
Is this called journalism? Or just another hit piece? In the same news paper Fran Spielman did a so called news article on Patrick Daley Thompson. The new alderman of the 11th ward. It was such a glowing piece. Detailing how he is so dedicated and fully serves the community. How his grandmother Sis Daley baked sweets for him and he was seven years old when old man Richard J Daley/grandfather died. What a complete joke.
8/09/2015 01:10:00 PM
Just what we needed, another set of bouncing Daley jowls in City government. How soon before he drops the "Thompson" name entirely?
Really off topic but funny as hell....17th ward aldercreature battered while "meeting with constitutes" at 3 am at well known transvestite prostitute hotspot 75 and Halsted...,.You gotta be shitten me.
http://abc7chicago.com/news/chicago-alderman-attacked-on-south-side-street/915870/
Yes; it is a fluff piece that will be forgotten by tomorrow if not sooner. I just enjoy seeing how these so called "journalists" spin the story. They say, "only 3,000 of the 12,000 sworn personnel took the fitness exam." That's one quarter of the Department. If they were talking about coppers with 2 or more CR #'s, they'd be saying "As many as a quarter of all sworn personnel have 2 complaints against them." This is why they're a dying breed and good riddance as far as I'm concerned. In another few years you'll get all your news electronically and none of these goofs who write for the Sun Times or Tribune will be able to compete with the 20 somethings who dominate the electronic media.
Hate to say it SCC, but it is kind of wrong.
As usual, all the haters rise to the occasion. If they don't have it, then by golly, nobody can have it. When times are good and the private sector is rocking everyone is happy. They don't give a crap about a lowly cop, fireman or any other city worker.
Ah, but when the economy ends up in the toilet, when salaries start to get cut and bonuses start to dry up then suddenly the once looked down upon city worker is now cast as the evil villain, stealing from "the average joe".
Anonymous said...
Hate to say it SCC, but it is kind of wrong. It's equivalent to giving a math teacher some cash every year that teacher is still able to add 2 plus 2, or a construction worker a bonus each year that the worker is able to demonstrate the ability to carry a 2x4 up a flight of stairs or a fireman a bonus because he/she is still able to pull the hose off the truck. Those are all minimal standards expected at the time of hire and standards that should be maintained while on the job.... So to give a cop extra money on top of what that cop is already being paid just for being able to physically be a cop and do what is already expected, there will be a backlash in the form of an article or two and an expose'on more government waste.
8/09/2015 03:30:00 AM
Math teachers study and do math all day. Firefighters get paid to eat, sleep, and work-out ON the job. Construction workers do physical labor all day.
Cops do not get paid to work out, spent a majority of their time sitting, doing paperwork, etc. The comparison isn't valid and if people expect cops to stay in shape, then the job needs to provide for avenues to fulfill that job aspect. Give us a gym to work out in, ON THE CLOCK, pay for a gym membership, increase the POWER test bonus, etc...
I don't agree with the article. I'm one of those guys that is consistently about 20 lbs overweight. if it weren't for the physical fitness test I guarantee that 20 lbs would turn to 30 lbs and 30 to 40. There are a lot of officers in good shape that take the test for the money and good for them. They deserve it for staying in good shape. Guys like me will never be marathon runners (although is DO run the Run To Remember 5k) so for me the power test keeps me from getting too far out of shape.
8/09/2015 06:55:00 AM
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Good for you brother. Keep it up.
Novak is the same asswipe that wrote a series attacking legitimate duty-disability officers. Novak could never do this job and is only a jealous frail man who looks ten years older than he is.
there are different standards for men and women and also for age...
there should be different standards for different districts as well.
a copper in 3 or 6 should have to run a couple blocks really fast and beat a heavy bag with his baton and a copper from 20 should have to grab a radio and come up with 5 or 6 excuses for not taking a job and then complain as he eats.
The endgame if Rahm does not get his way will be to contract with the county for police services.
And it's still probably cheaper for the city to do it this way than to make it mandatory.
Some actuary probably figured that the city saves X amount of money on annual health care costs. The bonuses paid out are probably less than it would be if they had mandatory fitness tests and had to pay for us to work out, and pay us to work out with a trainer like the ISP do when a fitness test is failed. Then there's the pension costs saved when divorced/single retirees in poor health die shortly after retirement.
I don't take it because if I get hurt it will really hurt not going to court or my late jobs. 350.00 ain't shit.
In the silly article they mention the fire department and how a higher % of firemen participate in their fitness award program. They missed a perfect opportunity to bring up one of the huge inequities that really sucks. The fire department is paid significantly more for their fitness achievement than the city offers us. That's because ...., why?? FOP your response????
"Fighting shape " ??? Who exactly are we fighting? I thought we are supposed to be impartial, un-biased robots.
8/09/2015 07:24:00 AM
Exactly. They don't want us "fighting" anyone. Fighting could leave to hurt feelings and injuries and certain groups in particular take issue with any type of interaction with the police.
18th district officers are about to get a rude awakening regarding uniform and personal appearance issues. We see quite a few officers bidding out shortly.
8/09/2015 12:42:00 AM
Bid to where? We average less than 5 bid spots per period citywide. It's been like that for over 6 years. Over the years I've had several friends who worked in 018. Not to be a total dick, but most people in 018 would quit before they'd work in 003 or 007 or 011.
Question when do the guys and gals in 5 have time to workout? Between work and catching up on sleep, family time and day to day home duties I'm just saying......
Is this called journalism? Or just another hit piece? In the same news paper Fran Spielman did a so called news article on Patrick Daley Thompson. The new alderman of the 11th ward. It was such a glowing piece. Detailing how he is so dedicated and fully serves the community. How his grandmother Sis Daley baked sweets for him and he was seven years old when old man Richard J Daley/grandfather died. What a complete joke.
8/09/2015 01:10:00 PM
I cancelled both the daily rags years ago. I could smell their "agenda" on my front porch. I'll pick one up if someone leaves it lying around the station, but I'd never pay to be indoctrinated. I am never surprised at the drivel or sorry I dropped them.
I do a little research on the net for my news. It takes a little brain power to sort through the nonsense, but it will always be better than the swill the newspapers hand you.
This "article" is a perfect example. I will not shed a tear when they fold.
Former disyrict 0008 Commander Harley Schinker was a look a like Fred Flintstone. he would walk and wobble across the street into the mini-market store. He come out biting an apple. Who are you trying to fool you fool: what a character he use to like saying this "this is my district, my inspector", With food still in his mouth!
Personally, I agree with the article. Cops who care enough about their health and appearance will pass that test every year, year after year. And the measly $250 (before taxes) won't encourage the masses of lardasses to get off their butts and trim down. What the city should do is incorporate physical fitness standards which must be met of all new hires, after a certain date, or extract penalties for those who cannot or will not maintain fitness. It would certainly ease up on medical costs, and would make officers far more productive than they currently are now. There's nothing the city could do or (realistically) offer the lardasses to get into shape, and the city cannot mandate them to do so, as it would have to be negotiated with the unions, and you know what that means, the city would have to give up something to get this (I don't think most officers would support it with their union heads anyway, most are too far gone down the road of fat to rebuild themselves).
8/09/2015 04:11:00 PM
You must be a new guy! What do you do about the officers who have injuries? What do you do when an officer is hurt during the test? The power test is taken on your own time! The departent also has to provide time for you to get in shape, not doing anything for the job for free!!! Me being in shape makes me a better officer how? I don't hit the medical much at all and the GO does not state that I must chase, fight or flex on the street. I provide the services that are required of me. Keep trying to go above & beyond, I'm sure you will be on tv at the next black lives matter protest!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It's just too bad the news article didn't post a pic of former cmdr. Harley Schinker in the paper...what a fine specimen of fitness he was!
8/09/2015 04:12:00 PM
What a totally miserable fuck he was. And the puppy dog Lt. Brannon that followed him everywhere was even worse. Some "old time" bosses were great but those two were just, simply put, complete dickheads.
Get rid of the fire dept
8/09/2015 03:30:00 AM
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Anonymous said...
Hate to say it SCC, but it is kind of wrong. It's equivalent to giving a math teacher some cash every year that teacher is still able to add 2 plus 2, or a construction worker a bonus each year that the worker is able to demonstrate the ability to carry a 2x4 up a flight of stairs or a fireman a bonus because he/she is still able to pull the hose off the truck. Those are all minimal standards expected at the time of hire and standards that should be maintained while on the job.... So to give a cop extra money on top of what that cop is already being paid just for being able to physically be a cop and do what is already expected, there will be a backlash in the form of an article or two and an expose'on more government waste.
8/09/2015 03:30:00 AM
Then, there should be a backlash every time an employee of any firm is given a bonus, or incentive, or perk.
Look at it this way; a small incentive for taking the fitness test is a far better investment than the alternative of having to pay extra for healthcare or medical time. MUCH cheaper.
What the city should do is incorporate physical fitness standards which must be met of all new hires
I agree. But it will never happen because if the city had it's way, they would expect the officers to do all this while off duty. The city does not want to pay for decent cars so why would they put out money to be used to help their own get into shape and stay that way?
Just remember the "un-official" city motto: DO MORE WITH LESS!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Really off topic but funny as hell....17th ward aldercreature battered while "meeting with constitutes" at 3 am at well known transvestite prostitute hotspot 75 and Halsted...,.You gotta be shitten me.
http://abc7chicago.com/news/chicago-alderman-attacked-on-south-side-street/915870/
8/09/2015 10:54:00 PM
You mean, you don't think the story is true?! What other explanation could there possibly be! ;-)
Our union should get involved and demand that the city give each police officer in the city a $100 voucher to be used at the gym or health club of the officers choice. This practice is very common in the private sector.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
8/09/2015 03:30:00 AM
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
8/10/2015 08:40:00 AM
After I read it twice, I think 0303 was trying to say s/he wouldn't risk taking the test and being injured, because an injury would keep him/her from getting court time and from working overtime initiatives.
I'd love to work out but finding time to do so gets difficult between my 2nd and 3rd side jobs.
i may be wrong, but when i use to work out on my lunch, a sgt. would say make sure u don t get caught by an inspector..your not suppose to work out while on duty, even if its on ur lunch. so i want to stay in shape but i can t. I think in L.A. P.D. they get 3 hrs a week to work out. What they should be asking is why the city doesn t follow other cities fitness program, if they want to get the police in better shape.
Our union should get involved and demand that the city give each police officer in the city a $100 voucher to be used at the gym or health club of the officers choice. This practice is very common in the private sector.
8/10/2015 11:05:00 AM
That's your uniform allowance, use it for other than beer
Sit ups are obsolete & have been for awhile now. Planks and other forms of core workouts have been proven to keep that squad car spread under control. It's like the 1930's w/this crap.
Anonymous said...
Our union should get involved and demand that the city give each police officer in the city a $100 voucher to be used at the gym or health club of the officers choice. This practice is very common in the private sector.
8/10/2015 11:05:00 AM
no thanks. throw the hundred into the bonus. you don't need a gym to sit and reach, do a few sit-ups and run a mile and a half.
Our union should get involved and demand that the city give each police officer in the city a $100 voucher to be used at the gym or health club of the officers choice. This practice is very common in the private sector.
8/10/2015 11:05:00 AM
A third of the people would go buy ammo; another third would go to the casino; and the other third would go to the bar. Money well spent by the city!
Fk the physical fitness test. The department needs to give a common sense test.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Our union should get involved and demand that the city give each police officer in the city a $100 voucher to be used at the gym or health club of the officers choice. This practice is very common in the private sector.
8/10/2015 11:05:00 AM
Seems to me...I remember from when I Took my Power Test....
There's a Gym and a Track indoors at that lovely Black Site.
And I believe you are all authorized access to the facilities at 1460 N Larrabee and at 1400 W Jackson.
Anonymous said...
Our union should get involved and demand that the city give each police officer in the city a $100 voucher to be used at the gym or health club of the officers choice. This practice is very common in the private sector.
8/10/2015 11:05:00 AM
A third of the people would go buy ammo; another third would go to the casino; and the other third would go to the bar. Money well spent by the city!
8/10/2015 11:56:00 PM
When I got my last fitness award check I spent half of it on gambling, booze and womanizing. The rest I just wasted.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
i may be wrong, but when i use to work out on my lunch, a sgt. would say make sure u don t get caught by an inspector..your not suppose to work out while on duty, even if its on ur lunch. so i want to stay in shape but i can t. I think in L.A. P.D. they get 3 hrs a week to work out. What they should be asking is why the city doesn t follow other cities fitness program, if they want to get the police in better shape.
8/10/2015 04:32:00 PM
Fuck it, I am going to apply for a job at Netflix or Google. Great benefits and even if I don't make as much, the work atmosphere is great. Fantastic job satisfaction. Not like here, I could be a commander and still the job would suck. Netflix provides one year of paid maternity leave! I just have to find out if I actually am required to give birth, or if I can just stay home with my wife.
Anonymous said...
Really off topic but funny as hell....17th ward aldercreature battered while "meeting with constitutes" at 3 am at well known transvestite prostitute hotspot 75 and Halsted...,.You gotta be shitten me.
http://abc7chicago.com/news/chicago-alderman-attacked-on-south-side-street/915870/
8/09/2015 10:54:00 PM
Where's that tranny hot spot? 75th and Halsted you say? All right then! Let's walk on the wild side, L-O-L-A LOLA!
Cops do not get paid to work out, spent a majority of their time sitting, doing paperwork, etc. The comparison isn't valid and if people expect cops to stay in shape, then the job needs to provide for avenues to fulfill that job aspect. Give us a gym to work out in, ON THE CLOCK, pay for a gym membership, increase the POWER test bonus, etc...
Today's cops should WANT to maintain some measure of physical fitness, considering all the punks out there who are seeking a physical confrontation with them...Give you a gym to work out? All of the newer stations have excellent gyms, I've worked out in several of them. We're not the CFD, so I don't see 'on the clock' workout time approved. But you should want to do it to further ensure that you return home to your families, if nothing else...have some personal pride, for crissakes!
"...a copper from 020..."
Please let me say that, though I agree with the author, I did not write this. If I had, I would have included numerous hours at Starbucks.
"...everyone in this room is dumber..."
Time to get out of that room.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Could I use that one hundred dollar voucher towards my bathhouse dues?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
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