Friday, July 28, 2017

5,000 Guns

  • It was another violent weekend on Chicago streets. Six people were killed and there were more than three dozen hurt. But the Chicago Police Department said they've hit a big milestone in their efforts to get more guns off the street.

    About 5,000 guns, that’s an average of 24 guns per day, were taken off the streets, but the murder rate is still high.

    There have been 391 homicides this year, four more than this time last year.
Five thousand guns - sounds impressive. Until you run the yearly totals ten and fifteen years ago - CPD was taking ten thousand, twelve thousand guns a year out of circulation. Now we know that many of these "seizures" wouldn't fly under current law, but back then it was a pretty big deal. It certainly would be interesting to run those totals against crime trends and the neighborhood of seizure. Maybe get a clue as to why so many guns are being located on the streets of certain zip codes.



Anonymous Anonymous said...


Is it "Table O' Guns" time again?

7/28/2017 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe you should start handing them out instead?
Let nature take its course.

7/28/2017 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you get a straw purchaser who purchased, what, 40 guns? And got everything plea bargained down to one offense, and got a misdemeanor, with 6 months probation... It doesn't matter where they're coming from - Foxx & Co. aren't going to prosecute anyway...

This City is screwed.

7/28/2017 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee, I wonder. If you are not allowed to discuss it, you will likely not fix it.

7/28/2017 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep grabbing them up. They will just steal more.

7/28/2017 12:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem is, guns don't commit crimes, people do. Take the violent people off the streets and problem solved. Leave the poor guns alone.

7/28/2017 02:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The guns live in the Banger zip codes.
It's like when you see an ultra-upscale
automobile parked in your neighborhood.
You just know the car is from elsewhere,
just visiting if you will, and not up to any good.

7/28/2017 02:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Not Barney Fife said...

Doesn't add up. If so many are in the "fetal position" on the job not doing anything, who is going after the guns? Who is doing the stops and taking guns off people on the streets?

Sounds more like some hocus-pocus, funny math going on.

7/28/2017 02:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) looks like the Democrats that have caused all the chaos here all the mayhem are finally looking into stopping the silly shit they have been doing to disparage the president of the United States Donald Trump:

Chicago deflates plan to fly giant pig balloons in front of Trump Tower

The total immaturity of our elected officials is really disgusting the president of United States will not even fly over the state of Illinois he has been to all states surrounding the state many times. Even bringing tens of thousands of jobs to Wisconsin and he also brought jobs to Indiana and Ohio but here in Illinois with the childish politicians we have like O'Reilly removing the president sign from in front of his beautiful multimillion dollar hotel to people like O'Reilly taking campaign contributions from the president of the United States promising to get the money back and then of course in typical democratic fashion refusing to give the money back!

Maybe now with this extremely stupid idea of the pig balloons they are realizing how stupid moronic they are September 1 fast approaching hundreds of millions of dollars will be lost for policing in Chicago The president tells the mayor he must get tough as the cartage the bloodshed the murders the ventilated bodies are increasing. But the mayor says he doesn't have to get tough he will just add more strategically well that's not working too well for the dead The maimed and their families is it? We are definitely the forgotten man and women of this corrupt city state and county!

7/28/2017 06:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It isn't so much that the laws of search and seizure have changed, but more to the point is that the police are now being scrutinized in their enforcement. Can't get away with stuff like in past years. Probably, on balance, a good thing.

7/28/2017 06:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't know if you noticed...BUT, channel 7 was showing all these ( ahem ) confiscated guns, with PRICE TAGS on them.....Seems like they just went to a gun store and filmed there....yeah..... it's all legit.....

7/28/2017 06:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many were from the buyback program?

7/28/2017 07:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So far this year my partner and I have recovered 5 guns this year. Last year we recovered 14 guns. Trust me, the guns, dope and warrants are out there.

7/28/2017 07:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is Fake News, Bait and Switch. These guns are from the Gun Buy Back Program. People from within and outside the city limits travel to this event to make that money. The City and the Supe then used it at mid year for headline. 5000 Guns removed off the streets of Chicago, the Struggle Continues.

7/28/2017 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most of those guns are weapon turn in or found weapons.

7/28/2017 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you look up where most of the "vicious dog attacks" (pitbulls) happen, you will find they take place in certain neighborhoods. These are the same neighborhoods are where firearms are a problem.

So clearly, we need to do something about the guns and dogs in certain neighborhoods as they are the problem. They aren't problems in other neighborhoods.

We need to empanel a blue ribbon "Guns and Dogs Commission" to find out why guns and dogs are such problems.

7/28/2017 08:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, it's "The police are the problem", "Guns are the problem", "poverty's the problem", "education is the problem", "lack of jobs is the problem", etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum.
It's never criminals and illegal aliens, hell no! They have got to be protected by liberal democrats in their sanctuary cities.
Liberal democrats can see what is happening, they know you are going to be a victim sooner or later, they just don't care as long as they get re-elected and can stuff their overseas bank accounts.


7/28/2017 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

talked to a guy who was at a gun shop. Straw buyer walks in with two bangers. They look at some rifles and buy one or two. Guy can't do or say anything cause the Attorney General will sue him for racial profiling and the feds will take away the licence. When will Trump make some appointments?????

7/28/2017 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

""Sounds more like some hocus-pocus, funny math going on.""

Of course it is. 90% are probably turn ins and grabs from Domestic allegations. You never saw a Tac team posing with selfies with some firemans collection after the old Lady accused him of threatening her during another one of their drunken binges. They act like they just caught Al Capone.

Now ask yourself, if you work a busy District , how many righteous pinches were made over the week end where you could put a gun on the offender? Maybe a few, maybe 1/2 dozen in a real busy district. Maybe!

And if you dont have a head to go WITH the gun and a felony charge what does it matter? And what does it even matter if they dont prosecute? This is just the old Vietnam head count bullshit once again.

7/28/2017 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll say this AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN, 95% of these GUNS are "TURN IN'S" and half don't even work,so would some newsreporter look into it if you don't believe me....

7/28/2017 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ANy of these gun that goofy FBI agent who pumps gas in the west side at night?

7/28/2017 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Control "the community" not guns........

7/28/2017 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back in the day when the City took 10,000 or more guns off the street, most were probably taken for "Failure to register"

And unless you wanted your ass reamed, you had to be careful who's gun you took...unless you were Tac.

7/28/2017 09:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RE: Not Barney Fife at 02:50:00 AM, I would guess that many of these guns came off of the dead and wounded trash scooped off of the streets by the coroner and EMS. I would further guess that very few, if any, of the wounded found with a gun were charged with unlawful possession of said gun. After all, dey dindu nuffins. Dat gat juss a fashion statement in da hood.

7/28/2017 09:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) now with another anti-police movie opening "Detroit" and looking at suntimes today Ropers column helping to churn the anti-police sentiment the movie is from 1967 riots and roeper says "you find yourself wondering how such things could still be happening in America in 2017" ahh rich you an Elvis fan? Listen to 50 years ago in the ghetto his song! Blame the elected especially the democrats for this they are
Responsible for "keeping blacks in poverty!"

Be careful brother and sister in blue idiots see movies like this and start violence!

Oh and roeper your a nucleus of problems no wonder tv and radio dumped you now we can hope new owners of your dead tree media dump you also!

7/28/2017 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

streets and san must be picking up all the gunz with a front loader.

7/28/2017 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Millions of guns in a place like West Virginia. People there don't resolve every problem with a gun there. People on the south and west sides love guns. A gun is a symbol of power. The power to kill and rob. The power to stop an " enemy" from taking their life. The enemy is everywhere. Just look in the mirror.

7/28/2017 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Weapons turn in? Taken from a railroaded collector? How many taken from an actual armed offender?

7/28/2017 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd be willing to bet that there are even more guns per square mile in the rural area where I live, and yet nary a one of them gets used for anything more than target practice or shooting deer and varmints. Maybe the issue here is really the people behind the guns (I know, a liberal probably just had a heart attack over that idea).

Peacable people+guns= no threat
Barbaric third world savages +guns= war zone

They can take away the guns until the cows come home and the barbarians will just use knives, or chains, or vehicles, or whatever else they can get their fists on. The problem is the PEOPLE, not the weapons, and yet that's the absolute last thing anyone in any position of power will consider. Optics wins out over truth, every damn time.

7/28/2017 10:16:00 AM  
Blogger Sir Donkey, esq said...

They must be including the guns from all the officers Ed has stripped.

7/28/2017 10:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More likely 2500-3000 were just turned in.

7/28/2017 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm very convened that the ammo tax is going to interfere with this year stat's and would like to start a drop off campaign of old ammo, to help keep the rate as high as it can get.

7/28/2017 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Old Task Force Ranger: Back in the 70's if you got a gun you got to go home early. The only exception to that was on the weekends and that was limited to the first team who got a gun. I can remember there were days when half the night watch was at check off roll call because of the guns that were taking off the streets. Back then it was easier at times to get a gun than a drivers license. And by the way, if you didn't fuck up the slip got torn-up the next night. Back then the CPD confiscated some 10,000 guns. Admittedly there were almost 300,000 more citizens living in Chicago and the CPD almost 14,000 PO's. Times have changed. Those days are LONG GONE!!!!!!!

7/28/2017 11:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/28/2017 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Old retired guy here.
I spent 12 years on tac in a slow district.
Perhaps made a couple hundred UUW arrests.
Never had one arrestee go to prison
unless they were a convicted felon, and that happened only when the were charged with additional felonies.
Confiscate and Destroy was all the judges in Gun Court knew.

7/28/2017 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

one per district per day. Sounds pretty fetal to me

7/28/2017 12:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These CC people are amazing, just turning in their weapons to please our great Sheriff and Mayor...

7/28/2017 02:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The numbers I don't.belive are true

7/28/2017 02:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmmm???? What happen to the guns taken in at the buy back? I see they all don't get destroyed.

7/28/2017 02:32:00 PM  
Anonymous In the know, or NOT... said...

The question that should be asked...Was there a documented arrestee with each gun? One per 10 guns? One per 20 guns? One per 100 guns & what were the charges? Where-o-where are these arrestees because they sure as hell ain't getting processed with gun charges in any A/S district I've been.

7/28/2017 07:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shitcago only tries prosecuting legal owners of weapons, not the criminal trash.

Oh, and fuck you rahm.

7/28/2017 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I ain't causing no trouble.
Old man with a shotgun cane.

7/28/2017 11:45:00 PM  

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