Sunday, July 16, 2017

Pistol vs AK-47 = "Excessive"

  • A lawsuit filed Thursday accuses a Chicago police officer of shooting a 36-year-old man to death without “just cause or just provocation’’ earlier this month in the Lawndale neighborhood on the West Side.

    The suit was filed in federal court by Tamara Locke, sister of Quintec Locke, who was shot during what police said was an armed confrontation in the 2200 block of South Kostner Avenue around 10:45 p.m. July 1. Two weapons were recovered from the scene, an AK-47 and a handgun.

    [...] According to the suit, which names the city of Chicago and Officer John Doe as defendants, Officer Doe and his partner responded to the scene with their guns drawn to a report of people shooting weapons and when the officers got there, they confronted Locke.

    The officers “did not take normal precautions or follow the usual practice approaching a suspect,’’ according to the suit, and “without just cause or just provocation’’ Officer Doe shot Locke “several times.’’
Wait....there's a "usual practice" confronting a man with two guns, one of which is completely capable of defeating CPD body armor? Let's review:
  • Police were called to the scene and given descriptions of people with guns;
  • Police responded fast enough that they arrived while the offender was still in the area;
  • Police methodically searched the given location and discovered the offender;
So now what? Wait until fired upon? Wait until someone is dead? Needlessly endanger citizens and coppers alike by letting him run amok with a rifle that can has an effective range of over a city block?

The City better not even enter into negotiations with this waste of protoplasm.

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56 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember BLM states society would be better off without the police. Maybe it's time to partition off the entire city of Chicago and make it a police free town.

Oh wait - that's exactly what they are trying to do! Prekwinkle, Dart, Emmanuel, Dart, Foxx and the rest of them.

7/16/2017 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it was... Poleec were supposed to be looking for a different man... den dey found da wrong man and lit him up. Shame😕

7/16/2017 01:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city will pay and pay well. This is better than life insurance in the ghetto I do have a question though. A good one Who placed the 911 call? If they are the same people that are now filing the lawsuit does that even make any damn sense? Because what do you expect the police to do when confronted by a man with a Ak-47? Ask him nicely to put it down?

7/16/2017 02:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Phil the Thrill said...

Leave people with guns alone!!!! They just be funnin'

7/16/2017 02:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's unfucking believable is that some scumbag lawyer filed this lawsuit!

7/16/2017 06:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When will the City or the FOP start filing law suits for frevilious B.S. lawsuits like this? Lawyers that take cases like this that are thrown out or found Not Guilty should also be sued. It's a win, win. Saves us money and saves the City money also.

7/16/2017 06:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First if it could not fire full auto it is not a AK-47 but it sure looks like one and should be treated as one. Until it is pried from there cold dead fingers there is no way to tell the difference. If you are walking around with what looks like a AK you are asking to be shot on sight. The pistol the police are armed with are no match for AK's or there lookalike's. It's time to TRAIN and ARM the police with rifles but how well trained are the Officers with what they carry now? Training is the key but it Chicago someone with clout would F it up.

7/16/2017 07:16:00 AM  
Blogger Andrew E said...

The "usual practice approaching a suspect" should be to get the lawyers who take these kind of cases on the scene first to deal with the gun-weilding shitstain.

7/16/2017 07:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahmie will settle out of court for about 7 million. Case closed.

7/16/2017 07:43:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Dick Tracy never fired first. However, he got the bad guy every time.

Remember, never fire first on Dick Tracy.

7/16/2017 07:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My God.....Does anyone else just want to SCREAM at all this BULLSHIT....

7/16/2017 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I quit responding to shots fired/persons with gun calls. It makes the day longer, but I don't have to worry about being the next preckwinkle poster boy.

7/16/2017 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some idiot judge will entertain this lawsuit and rule in favor of the plaintiffs. The internet is full of stories about judges releasing dangerous criminals back onto the streets
and their callous disregard for the safety of citizens is astounding. What gives with these "on another planet" jurists and what are we to do about them?

7/16/2017 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city will settle out of court and pay. It is getting to the point of, "Do not fire unless fired upon". This will be the reality in the near future. Mark my words.

7/16/2017 08:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How is alderman (skycap) Lopez doing? 4600 s washtenaw guy killed with assault rifle again and again in this "barrio"full of illegal criminals and ray Lopez refuses to ask for national guard! How many more will be shot and killed? Do you still have the CPD 24/7 bodyguards?

7/16/2017 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh it's believable. When did being totally wrong stop the family of a criminal from filing a lawsuit? I'm sure this "family" is from the same neighborhoods letting 6 - 8 year old kids out with pistols. And the police will be confronted with one of these little boogers, probably sooner than later.

J.J.

7/16/2017 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes folks we have another lottery winner where the city council, through connected law firms, will approve payment for a shooting that they should charge the ARMED OFFENDER'S FAMILY for the bullets used, forget about money to the family!

7/16/2017 08:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's excessive and incessant is the BULL SHIT the media, the politicians, the community, reverends, BLM etc..., have put the officers and police department through for doing their jobs, then to add insult to injury the shitty council approves payments to the families of "THUGS" who would have otherwise taken or ruined countless other lives if they had lived!

7/16/2017 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chrysler dealers around Chicago are licking their Lips.

7/16/2017 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a joke

7/16/2017 09:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Poleece gettin' all up in da communerty's bidness
an' shit! We don't need y'all! Jest defun' da poleece
and gibs da money to us an' we be alright an' shit."

Remember... Election Night...
04 November 2008

"We runnin' thangs now!"

Prescience. No?

Or the natural order of things in the concerted
push to make The Police step back?

Well... It worked so why not go all in
for the big re-boot as to what The Police
and the ideal of Public Safety actually mean?

Progressivism is a hateful and unholy thing...

7/16/2017 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lawyers🤔.

7/16/2017 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That little punk ass Quintec running around on our streets with an AK 47. That asshole is burning in hell right now and my heart pumps piss for him. Can you imagine another outcome to this story? I can and it involves police or innocent people at the mercy of Quintec. Tamara, you are the problem with Chicago. I am glad the police put your brother down. Those cops on that job are hero's but will never get the recognition they deserve. They would where I live and that is the difference Tamara between some of your culture and most of mine.

7/16/2017 10:07:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...

+++++ Tamara Locke is asking for compensatory damages in excess of $1 million, according to the suit. “The family is just looking for answers and for the truth,’’ Kulis (her lawyer) said. +++++

Uh....NO 'the family' isn't 'just looking for answers'. They're looking for -- at the least -- One Million Dollars in Free Money!

If Rahm settles this bullshit lawsuit for any amount of money, even if it's **only** for ..say.. $100,000, he should be snatched during the middle of the night by citizens carrying Torches and Pitchforks then run out of town on a rail.

He'd deserve to be Tarred & Feathered first but alas, Hot Tar & sacks of Chicken Feathers aren't as available as they used to be back in the good old days.

7/16/2017 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the only lottery that works in Illinois.

7/16/2017 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only question left is how much the check the city will cut to the relatives of the shooting "victim". All of these "community lawyers" filing these lawsuits are tied in with the Corporation Council and our illustrious conniving thieving city politicians. It has been going on for years and won't stop till the city is drained dry.

7/16/2017 10:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ghetto Lotto payouts keeps Rahm from losing 3-4 voters at a time.
What if Rahm doesn't pay (like pension obligations)?
Then there's falls possibility that there may even be a punitive counter.

These days there's nothing wrong with just writing reports and an occasional 19-P.
Work smart and not for Merit.

7/16/2017 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is why I don't go to these types of calls with lights and sirens. I drive slow and hope by the time I get there all is done. If I shoot some prick, I'm giving the family of this piece of shit millions. Fuck that, and all of us know the city is going to pay and pay big.

7/16/2017 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not only will they negotiate with them, but they will pay them too. Handsomely.

7/16/2017 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The twerp murder mayor has the check all signed just waiting to know where to place the decimal and comas on the dollar amount...

7/16/2017 11:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get smart and counter sue.

7/16/2017 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Citizen reader: I try to imagine a situation when I am running around my neighborhood with my mini 14 out and I cannot. What is wrong with ME?

7/16/2017 12:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city will pay out to make it go away. And the cops will get dinged with having been named in a civil suit. At every deposition the question is always asked, " Officer have you ever been sued or named in a civil suit?".

7/16/2017 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only thing excessive here is the amount of bullshit in this lawsuit.
Every ghetto dweller wants a spin at the ghetto lottery.

7/16/2017 01:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"So now what? Wait until fired upon? Wait until someone is dead? Needlessly endanger citizens and coppers alike by letting him run amok with a rifle that can has an effective range of over a city block?"


This is pretty much what they're teaching us in the Useless Force class.

7/16/2017 02:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not exactly the topic but I want to thank the officers who work in Bronzeville. I used to live there but moved due to the rampant crime. The greystone I lived in was broken into weekly, at times, several days a week. Looking at the same cops every time you could see their frustration. One cop admitted to me that it was due to the fact that they know the criminals, they are kids. I was like, bullshit. The cop said look across the street, there they are now. Looked like fucking babies. Next week, there is a loud noise upstairs, I walk up and see the same fucking kids in my neighbors place, call 911. Same cops show up, same look. He told me well here we go again. I said what do you mean, he said well we arrest them, they will be home in a hour. Sure enough after I got off of work, same kids on the block. I moved out and live in another state. Parental upbringing is a joke in that city.

7/16/2017 03:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So this is now the open door to the new use of force. "Proper procedure" will be dictated by a desk jockey with 20/20 hindsight. YOU must be shot, not just fired upon, to use deadly force. NO other alternative will be accepted. Because you didn't negotiate, shelter and call for swat before moving forward with your call, you are now liable and open for criminal charges and civil suits.



Congrats brassholes, if you thought activity and morale was bad now, wait until next year!

7/16/2017 04:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Until someone is shot and killed you should 19P every shots fired call. You shouldn't have to put your life or livelihood at stake for doing the job that will be scrutinized by unreasonable citizens who will ultimately have the final decision on whether you go to jail or pay punitive damages.

7/16/2017 04:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I never rush to man with a gun calls. Why are any of you. But hey if you want to deal with all the legal headaches more power to you

7/16/2017 04:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I had pistol and the other person had a real AK 47, yes the person with the AK 47 does have excessive force. Getting hit with a 30 caliber round is not pretty.
Some idiot fired one around a sons place and one round went thru the outside wall, two interior walls, a cabinet full of dishes thru the refrigerator and lodged in the garage wall.

If you wait for incoming fire to return fire you have lost. Remember Viet Nam.

7/16/2017 04:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"So now what? Wait until fired upon? Wait until someone is dead? Needlessly endanger citizens and coppers alike by letting him run amok with a rifle that can has an effective range of over a city block?"


This is pretty much what they're teaching us in the Useless Force class.

7/16/2017 02:13:00 PM

POLICE OFFICERS!

Do NOT hesitate!

Save your OWN lives!
Protect YOURSELVES first and foremost!

The evil peoples an' folkses foisting this
foolishness want to see you maimed or DEAD
and your families RUINED as some sort of
cack-handed feel-goodery for "The Community,"
as no one can solve "The Community's" pathology
but damnit, "Police Reform needs to happen hard,
fast and right now" according to the haters lined
up for a piece of the big Police Reform Pie that's
being "Divvy"-ed up by Rahm & Co.

Just you wait and see how many of the political,
media and academic swing-dicks and hanging-tits
who stand at the dais with Rahm at the multitude
of "The Police Are The Problem" press conferences,
end up becoming multi-millionaire profit-takers
as a result of a bullshit narrative.

For the greater civic good?
In a dead dog's hockey-dot it is...

Police Like You have No Friends.

7/16/2017 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We quit responding to calls of shots fired and person with a gun on my beat as well. There's no point, no boss or the department will back you. Stop responding to these calls and see how bad it can really get.

7/16/2017 05:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem is that there is no penalty for frivolous lawsuits, loser should pay.

7/16/2017 05:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only 'mistake' was arriving while the perp was still there.

Please slow down and obey all traffic laws.

7/16/2017 05:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city might as well parade the ghetto lottery winners out with a giant check for the cameras. I'm sure the local news knuckleheads would love it.

7/16/2017 05:55:00 PM  
Blogger Worc1 said...

I don't think you need to worry about the city entering into negotiations for this lawsuit, the city will probably just hand over a check for millions of $$ no discussion, no negotiations and no notification to the taxpayers until the deal is done.

7/16/2017 06:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Chrysler dealers around Chicago are licking their Lips.

7/16/2017 09:19:00 AM

Hahahaha, so true!! That is priceless. So fkin true. Damn Pontiac Grand Ams all over the west side
Shame on this city, and the lawyers that entertain these lawsuits. Lowest of the low

7/16/2017 07:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You will see more of these as they try to get them on the docket to pop up around election time so as to push the twerp to settle quickly.

Remember the guy last year driving around with a weapon calling 911 on himself repeatedly to initiate a confrontation?

7/16/2017 08:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Get smart and counter sue.

7/16/2017 12:17:00 PM

How?
Why?
Counter sue WHO?
Why bother?
Why burn YOUR money trying to
counter sue Dude?
To prove a point?
In THIS God-Forsaken city?

What possibly makes you think a
Policeman has a win in any of this?

Unless you can get "punitive" against
these mutts by virtue of getting a lump
sum against what he's expected to get in
tax payer provided entitlements?

Yah... Like the Democrat political powers
are gonna let THAT happen to their valued
voter base, but they'll damn sure bust a
Policeman and his family down to utter ruin
when the tables are turned.

These dead-end, throw-away m/fers are
protected and shielded from having to
make Policemen and upright law-abiding
citizens whole for their criminal actions.

"List your assets and liabilities, Officer..."

The next sound you hear will be every finance
person, lawyer and civil court judge in a 300 mile
radius wiping their ass with this idea when it hits their desk.

7/16/2017 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Chrysler dealers around Chicago are licking their Lips.

7/16/2017 09:19:00 AM

Hahahaha, so true!! That is priceless. So fkin true. Damn Pontiac Grand Ams all over the west side
Shame on this city, and the lawyers that entertain these lawsuits. Lowest of the low

7/16/2017 07:40:00 PM

Yeah... Just like how a prior generation of lawsuit winning
shit heads were were buying up every 94-96 Chevy Impala SS...

You couldn't get a fair price on the damned things because
the dealers were scalping them for THOUSANDS over invoice
and getting it.

We couldn't even finagle a spare 9c1 at any of the large
suburban Chevy dealerships.

But yeah... m/fers KNEW that they were unstoppable
rolling in those Super Sports.

Ditto for the Chrysler LHS and Cadillac Seville/Eldorado too...

Some fellow Officers wanted some assholes in a white
LHS for a series of shots fired from Ohio/Cicero-Lavergne
who ALWAYS got in the wind and flew...

"We had no idea that m/fer was THAT fast!"

7/16/2017 11:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

De-escalate something like this....500 teenage animals! Wait until Chicago has to confront 1000 kids or more some day soon.
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/07/17/flash-mob-of-500-teens-confront-philly-police/

7/17/2017 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suppose it is the dream of every mother in da hood that someday maybe their little darling will grow up to point a gun at a police officer and get shot dead in return so that she can cash in on the ghetto lottery.

7/17/2017 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Political Leaders want all this violence. Otherwise it would not be occurring. Don't be a chump, stay fetal as much as possible.

7/17/2017 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Understand clearly what department regs are for speed of responding to every single type of call. Then, make damn sure you do not exceed the speed limit one bit in responding to anything but "officer needs help" calls. The rest of them ? "Hey, I followed policy. You set the policy. Want me to go faster ? Change the regs. He got away before I arrived ? Oh, snap"...............

7/17/2017 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: NYPD Bill (with the daughter thinking about attending the U of C Law School)

Here is a classic example. Read on.

Anonymous said...

Not exactly the topic but I want to thank the officers who work in Bronzeville. I used to live there but moved due to the rampant crime. The greystone I lived in was broken into weekly, at times, several days a week. Looking at the same cops every time you could see their frustration. One cop admitted to me that it was due to the fact that they know the criminals, they are kids. I was like, bullshit. The cop said look across the street, there they are now. Looked like fucking babies. Next week, there is a loud noise upstairs, I walk up and see the same fucking kids in my neighbors place, call 911. Same cops show up, same look. He told me well here we go again. I said what do you mean, he said well we arrest them, they will be home in a hour. Sure enough after I got off of work, same kids on the block. I moved out and live in another state. Parental upbringing is a joke in that city.

7/16/2017 03:45:00 PM

And, the author of the post is not talking about Amish youths.

7/17/2017 04:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Clearly this takes place because the Alderdouches pay off everything...........

7/17/2017 08:49:00 PM  

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