Sunday, August 13, 2017

History Repeating

  • A new report finds Philadelphia’s new soda tax, which went into effect January 2017, to be disappointing both consumers and government officials.

    The nonpartisan Tax Foundation found Philadelphia overestimated how much revenue a soda tax would generate and underestimated how much the tax would distort the beverage market.

    Philadelphia’s story

    According to the report, Philadelphia expected to receive $46.2 million in soda tax revenue from Jan. 1 to June 30, 2017. But actual revenues were 15 percent below this expectation, reaching about $39.5 million, or $6.7 million lower than the city originally anticipated.

    The revenue shortfall arose from changes in both consumer behavior and corporate practices.
Along with revenue not appearing, guess what disappeared?
  • As consumers fled the Philadelphia soda market, businesses suffered. Coca-Cola blamed the soda tax for costing the company 40 Philadelphia-area jobs, and PepsiCo announced it would lay off 80 to 100 workers, blaming Philadelphia’s tax on sweetened beverages, according to Billy Penn. And due to the decrease in sales, thanks to the tax, Pepsi ceased distribution of its 12-pack packages and 2-liter bottles of beverages to its Philadelphia retailers.

    In a letter to the Philadelphia finance director, City Controller Alan Butkovitz compared the soda tax’s shortfalls to that of the city’s cigarette tax, according to Billy Penn. Both failed to deliver the promised revenue to schools.
Question - has a single "investigative reporter" looked into any of the following tax debacles?
  • Shortshanks imposes a $0.10 tax on bottled water
    • How much did he "estimate" would be brought in via the tax?
    • How much was actually raised?
    • How many budgets did Shortshanks push through that were "short" revenue?
  • Prickwrinkle imposes a $25 tax on firearms sales
    • Same three questions
  • Prickwrinkle imposes a bullet tax - $0.01 per rimfire round, $0.05 per center fire round, all of which was supposed to go to treating gunshot "victims"
    • Same three question as before and...
    • How many sporting good stores reduced or eliminated their presence in Cook County after this? How many opened / expanded in neighboring counties to meet the demands of gun owners? We can name three at least.
You know what would be entertaining? Following a few Cook County commissioners or even Prickwrinkle herself and seeing where they do their shopping. It might be eye-opening.

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61 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bet prickwinkle does that pea pod delivery crap

8/13/2017 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Heartless Taxpayer said...

How about a huge campaign to CUT Taxes and invite people to SHOP IN COOK COUNTY.

I know that is not the typical strategy, but how about changing strategies and seeing if something else works better?

In plain English to ALL Cook County and City of Chicago Politicians - "It AIN'T WORKIN'"

Fix your budget problems. Learn the meaning of the word "Consolidate".

Learn the action phrase, "Cut spending." Until then, see you in Kenosha.



8/13/2017 12:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Second Amendment Foundation is suing Seattle to find out just how little in firearms tax they collected. For some reason it is a state secret, immune to FOIA laws. Seattle claims they were going to collect $300,000.00 to $500,000.00 dollars in taxes on guns and ammo. The SAF estimates it is closer to $110,000 in actual taxes.


8/13/2017 01:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember the idiots in Congress creating a "Luxury Yacht Tax" about twenty years back? It was going to take in Millions. Millions of Dollars! From all those fat cats!

It decimated the industry. It also was a net tax LOSS, after all the unemployed people collected their benefits.

https://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2011/08/10/ignorance,-stupidity-or-connivance-n869382

8/13/2017 01:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Same thing happened here in the city with the speed cameras. They were expecting much more money and guess what?

8/13/2017 01:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How much were the taxes they planned on from the 900,000 people with LINK Cards?

Remember that surprise that they had when the Federal Government told them they couldn't collect taxes on government supplied sodapop?

That little surprise that is what might cost the State of Illinois $60 million.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-soda-tax-food-stamps-preckwinkle-0811-biz-20170810-story.html

8/13/2017 01:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A few reporters with a few FOIA requests could make a lot of interesting stories.

Too bad all Chicago has is a bunch of Democrat stenographers and apologists.

Any reporters with balls read this blog?

8/13/2017 01:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Me being an asshole--- Chicago democrats should pass a city tax too...Rahm need the money to yup out the northside with bike lanes and bullshit to clog up traffic so when you say fuck you Rham and disregard a camera light you get a ticket too to keep rahms dumb shit going

8/13/2017 01:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC - Great job with all the valid information these mutts hit us with taxes. Makes one want to puke and move anywhere but Illinois.
People forget about the other taxes and thanks to you, we are reminded how fucked up these Roosevelt and Cicero holes fuck us in the county and city. Even the holes work outside the city limits cause of alcohol being taxed higher in Chicago. Tony=i will get to that soon.

8/13/2017 03:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I actually had a conversation with one of the commissioners who voted for the tax and he said that the County incurs a cost for treatment of carbonated soft drink users and originally, the SNAP/LINK crowd was going to pay but the soda lobby & Uncle Sugar said no.

Okay, so it's not up to them that the poor don't pay the tax.

So anyone who goes to County for treatment IS EXEMPT FROM PAYING THE TAX AND STILL DRINKS THE POP. You generally don't end up at Stroger if you have your own insurance. What did they accomplish other than chase people that pay their own way out of the County???

8/13/2017 05:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's with these demagogues and taxes? Taxwinkle must be voted out of office along with rahmie!

8/13/2017 05:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no escape
Oak Park just approved a 10 cent per bag tax (take that Chicago)

8/13/2017 06:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) Prayers are being said for this 50-year-old Chicago police officer may he rest in peace :

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/police-cpd-supervisor-found-unconscious-in-squad-car-dies/

Please don't know the situation here watch the stress level this job is not worth it especially with the anti-police attitude running rampant throughout our city this county in the country Godspeed brother!

8/13/2017 06:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who buys ammo in Cook county?

8/13/2017 06:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was a report about Philadelphia a few weeks ago stating that the sugary beverage tax funds would go to education. Less than half of the funds went to education. Same old song and dance.

8/13/2017 07:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A politician controlling the sales of a company
listed on NY Stock Exchange. Mr. Clean needs
to pay a visit.

8/13/2017 07:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT...Question...I'll have 20 years on in 14 months and am strongly considering retiring and doing something else in another more desirable state. I'm assuming our contract won't be settled by then so should I stay on until it's settled? Will I lose a lot by retiring before it's settled? Anyone had this delima before or in the know?

8/13/2017 07:29:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Hold their feet to the fire. Watch them squirm.

8/13/2017 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been trying to google the bullet tax windfall but have not been able to find anything. This leads me to believe it is not generating the revenue it was suppose to. If the media is reading this or someone with better google skills is reading this could you please supply the tax revenue numbers?

8/13/2017 08:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the media investigated things like this that would be work.

Reporters are lazy by nature.

They love interviewing over the phone.
They FOIA mass amounts of info but dont understand what they are reading.
They google most background info and don't cite sources because again it is work.
They use the same footage for all crime scene because again it easier to cut and paste.
Most reporters just "AINT" that smart listen to them if they are ever on an unscripted show. Alot of them wanted to be actors or write novels/screenplays.

Follow a politician to a grocery store? it would be great But most have their wife or hubby do that.

8/13/2017 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A basic law of economics is taxes change behavior.
Raise taxes and get less of it.
Cut taxes and get more of it.
These fools failed Econ 101.

8/13/2017 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At an outside the city limits but still Cook County supermarket the other day, I noticed five 6-packs of Sprite/Coke (16 ounces each) in a woman's cart. I wanted to ask her how she could dare to pay 80 cents extra each ($4 total) to this insane tax. As her items were scanned and her child wanted a candy bar to be added - I was irritated that it was a SNAP user who didn't have to pay.
The whole campaign to 'fight obesity/heart disease' (but certain segments are exempt) should be regulated to this card. If you want to drink sugary pop and candy bars - pay for it yourself. SNAP money should'nt be used for non-healthy/Chicago Lives Healthy (laugh) prohibited items. How else are you to educate the crowd you want to reach? But, I guess you'll have to use my tax money so this crowd can enjoy their Sprite & Coke. Can we pay for their dentist bills as well since I rarely see a SNAP cardholder purchasing toothpaste.

8/13/2017 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My county commissioner's receptionist once commented that the county would send an employee weekly out to the commissioners offices to pick up various correspondence to transport back and forth between offices and the courier was known to divert into the next nearby county to pick up cartons of cigarettes for family members and themselves. All the time driving a Cook County vehicle and on the county time clock.

8/13/2017 09:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Taxwinkle stepped on her tit in a big way.
She's now toxic in the political circles.

It takes a lot to get the Sheeple to turn on you but she's managed to do it.
Atta girl Toni!

8/13/2017 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Order guns and ammo on the internet. I order a gun and have it sent to Bass Pro in Will county. Pay the transfer fee, do some shopping, gas up my car and return in a couple of days to pick up the gun and maybe some ammo. While I'm there picking up my gun, I go to Binny's and load up on wine or whatever. The Cook County and City taxes are going to help bring down these lib's and has taught me how to save money in the process.

8/13/2017 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Follow and see where they do their shopping"...
as Toenail PoopWinkle's butler, I'm offended.
- Chauncey the Wrapper

I'm betting the Lottery will eventualy solve the Education funding problem before I'd go snooping in Precks' Dub'l Wide shopping basket at Merrillville Indiana Costco.

8/13/2017 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Said it before and I'll say it again. It's the "tip of the iceberg" problem that democRats are too stoooopid to predict for or adjust to.

Consumers go outside Crook County avoid the tax on soda or whatever. Once there, they look around, see how cheap everything else is, stock up and wind up dropping $500 instead of $50. Now multiply that by hundreds of thousands of consumers. Big economic impact.

And the employees at these locations are typically much nicer, pleasant and helpful.

Why is it that democRats always are able to raise taxes but are never able to cut expenses? And why is it they always have the money for entitlement payments but never have the money for first responder pensions?

I'd write more but jumping in the car in Lincoln Park and headed to Costco in Lake County. Beautiful day for a drive.

Call the next case. Not a cop.

8/13/2017 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Out here, took my granddaughter across the river to Iowa for Friday-Saturday Back to School no-tax weekend last week. All clothing under $100.00 tax-free. Parking lots a sea of Ill-noise license plates.

8/13/2017 11:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I get all my ammo from luckygunner.com, send it to my relative in WI

8/13/2017 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I actually had a conversation with one of the commissioners who voted for the tax and he said that the County incurs a cost for treatment of carbonated soft drink users and originally, the SNAP/LINK crowd was going to pay but the soda lobby & Uncle Sugar said no.

Okay, so it's not up to them that the poor don't pay the tax.

People who go to Starbucks or buy expensive coffee period do not pay the tax also. Taxwinkle knew she would have a real riot on her hands if she pulled that one.

8/13/2017 11:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i know the 10th alderwomen shops in Indiana.

i called her out on it personally.

8/13/2017 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i can only hope this will bring down tax winkle and her other 8 tax monger commissioners.

next year is right around the corner.

NO MORE TAXWINKLE!!

8/13/2017 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

city of chicago is the highest taxed in the nation.

i wonder how many billions of dollars were lost because of it.

i mean , who really buys any big ticket item in the city anymore? TV, stove, refrigerator?

NOBODY with a brain!!!!

fucking dumb ass politicians!!!

just scale it back to normalcy and reap the benefits. HUH??? maybe we can try something new??

8/13/2017 12:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I stopped in for a few things at the Jewel on Western/Archer the other day. I asked the store clerk if soda sales have dropped since the new tax went in effect. She stated that sales across the whole store have dropped significantly because of it- that shoppers are going out of county/state to shop. Her words.

8/13/2017 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And what about the amount of taxes on cigarettes, I know I should quit, but until I do , crook county and chicago, will not get any of my money. They also went after "vaping" and I know people that now shop out side of crook for their products.

8/13/2017 01:06:00 PM  
Blogger Jack Trumpblood said...

President The Donald would have been happy to give Cook County financial advice, but they wouldn't listen.

8/13/2017 01:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who is making money on the sales of SKYWAY , PARKING METERS

8/13/2017 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

better question , has taxwinkle collected any fines from criminals possessing guns or ammo
where did every nickel and $25 additional tax on guns and ammo go
Trump send in the FEDS , Forensic Audit
Did Politicians obstruct justice in criminal cases involving relative of mayor , pressure to IPRA on Police Investigations

8/13/2017 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Want money , require a city bicycle license for every bicycle that uses bike lanes
enforce traffic laws of cyclists that run red lights , stop signs , yield right of way to pedestrians , right turn on red etcetera

8/13/2017 02:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) Prayers are being said for this 50-year-old Chicago police officer may he rest in peace :

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/police-cpd-supervisor-found-unconscious-in-squad-car-dies/

Please don't know the situation here watch the stress level this job is not worth it especially with the anti-police attitude running rampant throughout our city this county in the country Godspeed brother!

8/13/2017 06:30:00 AM

So sad!!! Tremendous loss for this department. If we had more bosses like him the department would be so much better off. Gof bless you captain, thanks for everything!!

8/13/2017 02:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Johnny Kass does it right in Sunday's column .. Calls out as Toni Taxwinkle for her, democrats soda tax on working middle class

Best Kassy says.. some democrats now worried that the overtaxed Illinois ,Crook county ,Chicago middle class might wake up and revolt against the spend, waste ,Tax Democrats of Illinois

Some democrats in Trib article, hoping middle class people are too lazy to shop outside Cook County to save money from soda taxes ,cig taxes ,beer taxes, gas taxes,sales taxes ,ammo taxes

LOL fool Democrats ,Toni Stroger Taxwinkle

8/13/2017 03:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My wife and I vacationed in Lake Tahoe , California for a couple of weeks last month. At some of the more remote gas stations in the mountains, the cal formulated gas was 4.19 and in more populated areas it was just over 3. At the grocery store, they charge you for bags and if you put any fruit or vegetables in these small plastic bags- additional charge. It was outlandish considering you could cross the border into Nevada and pay less for everything.

8/13/2017 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I live in PA just north of Philly ... Have friends and relatives who live in the city ... They come up and fill their tanks ... Buy cigs .... Soda on their way home ... They have told me a black market in soda is popping up

8/13/2017 04:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anither democrat run shithole full of crime.

8/13/2017 05:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, but the purpose of the tax is to get everyone looking fit and trim like Preckwinkle.

8/13/2017 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Jake Fargo said...

You can buy ammo in Crook County?

8/13/2017 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I actually had a conversation with one of the commissioners who voted for the tax and he said that the County incurs a cost for treatment of carbonated soft drink users and originally, the SNAP/LINK crowd was going to pay but the soda lobby & Uncle Sugar said no.

Okay, so it's not up to them that the poor don't pay the tax.

So anyone who goes to County for treatment IS EXEMPT FROM PAYING THE TAX AND STILL DRINKS THE POP. You generally don't end up at Stroger if you have your own insurance. What did they accomplish other than chase people that pay their own way out of the County???

8/13/2017 05:15:00 AM

They pay in Philadelphia, it has nothing to with Uncle Sugar and the soda lobby. Its a state law, stop making shit up you moron.

8/13/2017 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT...Question...I'll have 20 years on in 14 months and am strongly considering retiring and doing something else in another more desirable state. I'm assuming our contract won't be settled by then so should I stay on until it's settled? Will I lose a lot by retiring before it's settled? Anyone had this delima before or in the know?

8/13/2017 07:29:00 AM

Question #1: Are you 50 years of age?
Question #2: Have you cyphered the cost of healthcare while you are between jobs?

8/13/2017 07:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8/13/2017 05:59:00 PM
Anonymous Jake Fargo said...
You can buy ammo in Crook County?

8/13/2017 07:00:00 PM


Sure can. I buy mine at Dicks sporting goods

8/13/2017 07:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cabela's is leaving Hoffman Estates.....

8/13/2017 08:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I buy all my guns, ammo, and sweetened drinks outside of Cook County. I'm not going to feed the corrupt beast that keeps slowly squeezing my freedoms. F-ck them.

8/13/2017 08:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure you too would deal with all the hand wringing and whining about extra taxes if it was bringing you $40 million or so. That's not exactly chump change. Do you know how many pockets can get lined with that kind of dough?

8/13/2017 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

My wife and I vacationed in Lake Tahoe , California for a couple of weeks last month. At some of the more remote gas stations in the mountains, the cal formulated gas was 4.19 and in more populated areas it was just over 3. At the grocery store, they charge you for bags and if you put any fruit or vegetables in these small plastic bags- additional charge. It was outlandish considering you could cross the border into Nevada and pay less for everything.

8/13/2017 03:36:00 PM

It's tragically comedic...

The Commie-Fornia liberal progressive moonbats are
fleeing the mess they made and are spreading their
madness to ruin the rest of the western United States.

To wit:

Washington, Oregon and California are ruined
beyond hope and salvage.

Nevada is doomed due to proximity.

Arizona and New Mexico have 20 years tops
unless the tax paying citizens sniff these
corrosive m/fers out and deal with them
before they hijack public office.

Idaho, Montana, Wyoming and Utah
seem to be stable for now.

Colorado?
It's gotten so bad there that the northern
counties were making noise about seceding
from the rest of the state due to the California
sourced nonsense emanating from Denver and Boulder.

Any kindred minds from these places monitoring
this blog who want to lend some insight?

Progressivism is The Devil's handiwork.

Take note of what's happening in America's
democrat-controlled large urban centers.

Especially those east of the Big Muddy...

8/13/2017 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT...Question...I'll have 20 years on in 14 months and am strongly considering retiring and doing something else in another more desirable state. I'm assuming our contract won't be settled by then so should I stay on until it's settled? Will I lose a lot by retiring before it's settled? Anyone had this delima before or in the know?

If you retire with only twenty years on, your pension might not be good enough to buy insurance for you and your family. Don't think that other jobs will give you insurance and benefits. I would do at least five more years. Try to get transferred to something less stressful.

8/13/2017 08:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, 02:04:00
BIKE PLATES, YEAH!
B-I-G honking plates, just like for cars.
Go Ohio, front & back.
Illuminate rear plate.
Tail lights, too. Traffic stops for "busted tail light".
Require registration and driver's license by DMV.
Require insurance, just like cars.
These Fucking European Tour de La France pukes make me sick.
Tax the shit out of them.
PHOTO License required, with updates.
Motorcycles have plates. Now the time has come for the ballerinas.

8/13/2017 09:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
There is no escape
Oak Park just approved a 10 cent per bag tax (take that Chicago)

8/13/2017 06:24:00 AM

Forget it Jake, Its Oak Park.

8/13/2017 09:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So did you cross the border to shop? Or are you a sheeple.

8/13/2017 10:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT...Question...I'll have 20 years on in 14 months and am strongly considering retiring and doing something else in another more desirable state. I'm assuming our contract won't be settled by then so should I stay on until it's settled? Will I lose a lot by retiring before it's settled? Anyone had this delima before or in the know?

8/13/2017 07:29:00 AM

Question #1: Are you 50 years of age?
Question #2: Have you cyphered the cost of healthcare while you are between jobs?

8/13/2017 07:56:00 PM

No I won't be 50 went I hit 20 years and yes I know all about the cost of healthcare. I'm a fairly intelligent adult. I have something lined up and we are financially secure. Thanks for your concern but my question was if it was worth staying til the contract is settled for pension purposes?

8/13/2017 11:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I no longer buy bullets, guns, water, soda or any sweetened beverages, groceries or gasoline in Cook County. Piss on Cook County, I go to DuPage. I have family there and I am house shopping now. Outside of Cook County of course.

recently retired,

8/14/2017 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i know the 10th alderwomen shops in Indiana.

i called her out on it personally.


You can put her name on here. Susan Sadowski Garza.

8/14/2017 02:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT...Question...I'll have 20 years on in 14 months and am strongly considering retiring and doing something else in another more desirable state. I'm assuming our contract won't be settled by then so should I stay on until it's settled? Will I lose a lot by retiring before it's settled? Anyone had this delima before or in the know?

8/13/2017 07:29:00 AM

Question #1: Are you 50 years of age?
Question #2: Have you cyphered the cost of healthcare while you are between jobs?

8/13/2017 07:56:00 PM

No I won't be 50 went I hit 20 years and yes I know all about the cost of healthcare. I'm a fairly intelligent adult. I have something lined up and we are financially secure. Thanks for your concern but my question was if it was worth staying til the contract is settled for pension purposes?

Why would a fairly intelligent person be asking this on the blog. No one here knows your situation so how can they give you an answer
If you are financially secure why wait for the contract. A little if any backpay shouldn't make any ifference. The only reason to stay is if you were intending to stay on CPD after the contract was ratified

8/14/2017 09:28:00 AM  

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