Don't....Just Don't
First up, "gold braid" pensions need to be rescinded, outlawed, ended. You test for promotions that result in salary increases and your pension contributions go up accordingly as does your pension payout. Logical even if the math doesn't quite work out.
But a political appointment to an exempt rank resulting in a massive pension bump? You didn't test for that, you didn't earn that, there aren't even a list of qualifications or career goals that would enable everyone to have a shot at those ranks. It's all who you know or who you blow. The number of people who "earned" a gold braid pension on their backs or on their knees would be a scandal of massive headlines if the media ever did their actual jobs.
And this is another bad idea that needs to die:
Disparti Law Group, alongside co-counsel Linden & Bustamante, is proud to announce a $7,000,000 settlement on behalf of a group of Cook County Sheriff’s Office commanders who alleged they were unlawfully terminated after exercising their right to organize and form a labor union.
The case stems from events that began in 2017, when a group of Correctional Department Commanders employed by Cook County sought to unionize. After a lengthy legal process, the commanders prevailed before the Illinois Labor Relations Board, which issued a Recommended Decision and Order recognizing their right to organize and authorizing the formation of their union.
According to the claims asserted in the litigation, shortly after the commanders successfully exercised those rights, Sheriff Thomas J. Dart terminated the commanders who had participated in the unionization effort. The lawsuit alleged that those terminations were not coincidental, but rather constituted unlawful retaliation against employees for engaging in protected labor activity.
The right of workers to organize, collectively bargain, and advocate for better working conditions is a cornerstone of labor law in Illinois and throughout the United States. Those protections exist to ensure that employees can exercise their rights without fear of punishment, retaliation, or loss of employment.
The article says they were "terminated" which (if we're understanding it) equates to being fired. That's not proper, but they should be demoted to their last testable rank.
The elected executive should have the power to put his people in charge and remove them when they aren't carrying out his/her policies. After all, that's what the voters put him/her in there for. The US Supreme Court just restored the right of the Executive Branch to shitcan the bureaucratic "deep state" and put his people in.
Locking in "exempt" promotions for people who aren't doing the job or refusing to carry out the executive branch policies is how you get a "deep state" of useless drones sucking up scarce time and scarcer money.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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SCC, What’s the answer then? They can’t get people to take those spots now, and have to ask 4 or 5 people before someone takes it, if they eliminate the gold braid they’d pay millions in ot yearly to Capts. and Lts, that would be forced into those spots, working 14 -16 hr days, that’s the reason it’s the way it is, not to mention they’re paying into the fund at the higher salary for their last four years. Maybe they get the salary bump and pay into the fund at their LT or CPT rate? They have to do something, nobody with any sense wants those jobs anymore and you see who’s taking it.
I don’t think many people will disagree with eliminating the Gold Braid Pension. Except the useless Gold Stars.
No one should get a pension past Lt. and I’m being generous. Also the pay for all these incompetent bosses needs to be brought back inline. The 45 minutes a day needs to stop. Most duck out early. No more than $5,000. Should be separating a Lt and Captain and so on each rank. All CPD has is a bunch of over paid incompetent bosses.
It isn’t just the gold braid pensions that are so outrageous. It’s the folks who get cush or inside spots by virtue of their talented positioning on their back or knees. It’s rampant.
Area Gang Enforcement teams rumored to be coming back by Labor Day, robbery team cut down again, and wash area will have 1-2 two assigned robbery teams instead of citywide like the 6400 teams. It will now be 6100 teams 6200 teams 6300 teams and so on
The FOP needs to open the financial records to all members!
Yes, SCC, 100%.
Chicago fire department did it years ago highest pensionable rank is Lieutenant the Chicago Police Department keeps putting the clown show into the Goldstar club they (many)make their donations to their political sponsors. No wonder why we laugh at them because they’re all or at least majority or nothing but a bunch of morons stealing a Pension in another time they would be locked up for theft, felony theft.
Commanders can unionize because they don’t make policy. Policy decision makers cannot or should not be able to unionize.
eliminate one level of top-heavy command staff
we got along fine without captains for years. lose them all
OR
captains run districts, commanders run areas, get rid of 80% of the useless commander ranks
Some suburban police and fire depts. issue a "sham promotion" to members who are nearing retirement. A basic fireman is suddenly promoted to captain a few weeks before retirement in order to get a big pension boost. There's no testing involved, just a big party and a fat check.
Not while sticky fingers Johnny is in there.
I remember ex-Governor George "Governor Grumpy" Ryan was criticized for issuing a big state funded pension boost to some political cronies. It was for 6 weeks of a do-nothing state job.
Someone call the Bunco Squad.
Considering the Supt is retiring and no one is in charge, WHO is making these decisions?
How about for those who retire at supervisor rank, their pension is based on the rank that they tested into, in other words, no higher pension for those who attained rank by merit promotion. They get what they earned, not what they were given.
One can only hope, right?
Who was offered a gold star and turned it down?
Excellent written article. Well said. 100 percent
hey commander just pay their pension on the last testable rank The pension is going broke (only 13Percent now ) cause of this corruption
More Democrat nonsense.
No pension system survives when people collecting are making more money than when they were working. Its simple math.
Wrong it is battalion chief which is a tested rank. All members up to that rank are in the union.
This was summer 2007. County fired every Division Commander (equivalent to a Captain for us)- except for one guy- J Cianciarulo, who was technically an “acting” commander after Printiss Jones got launched. Cianciarulo is now a high ranking exempt boss in the jail.
No, the highest pensionable rank is battalion chief, which, I think, is the same pay grade as a police captain.
Sounds like what happened in the 6th district. Mr. Potatoe Head - Tate, gets a merit as district commander...sleep walks and nails pin cushions for 3 years, get another merit to Street Dep. Supt. in November, then gold braid retires 6 months later...then his boy, Snelling leaves a month later...after giving that clown a baton at his retirement party....what a joke...both give a middle finger to the city just before the high crime summer season.
That sounds good.
It’s CFD Chief which is equal to a CPD captain.And They cheated the guy who wrote the CFD brass bill out of a promotion so it was pulled.
Get rid of all exempt Ranks, Captains can run the Districts, Lt. Can run the watch, and Sgts. can monitor the P.O'S on the street.Captains can also run every unit without a problem. And no overtime for the Captains or Lt.Give them a Salary, done deal.Also eliminate merit completely, and have the Federal Government issue the test. If anyone is caught cheating , they should be immediately fired. This would also have a positive impact on the Pension Fund. OH, I forgot to mention, each rank has to pass a test with at least 85% or better.
Again, I have to remind everyone how we got the Gold Braid Bill in the first place. The bill was passed only after it included Detectives, Youth Officers, Gang Crimes Specialist, and Crime Lab Personnel. I agree totally with the suggestion that the highest rank should be Captains but if you strip exempt personnel, do you also strip Detectives, Youth Officers etc. ?
you sir a correct this crap goes on in the suburbs alot a sgt get promoted to deputy chief and then a year later retires with his pension based on this deputy chief salary
State constitution was amended in 2023 that ALL workers can now unionize. Happened for CPS and is now happening with the upper ranks of CFD. CPD is already in the process of it. Springfield PD allowed its upper ranks to unionize four months ago. Once it goes into the state constitution, there’s no getting around it. I love it because the mayors office is loosing their mind. Conehead was all for it because it was aimed at helping CPS. Now, CFD, CPD and all the others who he never thought would try to u ionize are doing it and winning.. thanks conwhead!!!
No OT for Lts. ??? I think the Fair Labor Standards Act will guide you regarding your knee jerk reaction. The rank of Lt. is a civil service rank which is not exempt from FLSA. Now the rank of Cpt… you may have something there.
You really don't understand investing, economics, or basic math do you?
The Peter Principle.
Pension should be based on last civil service rank. That's why it's being drained.
Cpd has a lot of incompetent police officers who think they have all the answers with 3 years in the job. Hey jr, See how you feel when you have a chance to get promoted. Get a little time in grade kid!!!
Get rid of Lt and make supervisors Sgt’s like they talked about before when there weren’t a lot of Lt’s and they created the dss position. Sgt’s were running watches as the w/c’s most of the time and things ran just fine.
How about this another 135million short midyear budget easy solution close some of these schools. The massive amount of extra personnel is my demential. You could actually say at least $1 billion. You have schools with very few students but a full staff sucking the money from the taxpayers worse than a top sewing vacuum, but we have a mayor who’s totally clueless the money they used from the teachers union to buy him the mayor’s office the taxpayers money that’s why he will do nothing. He’s a terrible manager other cities are getting rid of schools closing them, but yet this idiot can’t figure out what to do.!
https://www.fox32chicago.com/video/fmc-mludzt9kxggnod5f
And they are finally going to be putting the detectives in the uniform. That’s a good thing and it will encourage more accountability.
The pension should be based on the last rank earned, not by merit or the NOBLE test give away. What rank did you achieve by test and rank order. That is what your pension should be.
Snelling should not have a Pension higher that PO. He never was promoted by testing score. For all you who lick his Ball$ just remember, Snelling, given, not earned.
But if YOU were a boss I’m sure all of that would be ok… but you’re not.. so, you know
I love all the anti gold braid comments and how THAT is the reason the pension fund is broke. Do any of you actually think for yourselves?? Or do you all just spout off because it sounds good to blame bosses. Why don’t we really open up the books and out blame exactly where it needs to go??? The former mayors and connected people. Hundreds upon hundreds of millions of dollars have been taken from our fund, “invested” in companies and projects that all went belly up. These “investments” were to connected people.. then when they went belly up, we lost all of our money. That happened sometimes only a million here and a million there and then some times 80 million or more.. and we lost out.. but right… the current 168 gold braid pensioners on the rolls are the ones who blew almost a billion from our funds over the last 40+ years.. start to use your heads
Something tells me you are a very very bitter PO, sgt or detective who just couldn’t go any higher.. good lord the hate.. you must be a peach to deal with at home.
here's an idea , Captains are assigned duties to run districts, eliminate all command staff positions. Assign Lt.'s,Captain's to Commander,Deputy Chief ,1st deputy,ADS assignment. They receive pensionable salary ,perks is every other weekend off, a yearly Non Pensionable Bonus. They should require a Test for Captain and No Merit can be assigned to an assignment other than District Patrol. No more hiding in a unit with a take home car for any merit supervisor/Stupervisor.
any police officer that takes a merit promotion should never be assigned to a unit, when they apply for merit it should be for Distort Patrol on a Watch. No CAPS or Tactical assignments for Merit Sgt.Lt's.
let's start with a 70% passing . nobody that scores u under 70%. should be promoted.
So here's the story. All of us civil service tested Merit Correctional Captains got called into the south campus one day for a meeting with HR. They told us that we were all being promoted to the rank of Commander, and went through a whole Litany of how great it is, how it's going to be a ramp towards future exempt promotions and whatnot.
It was alluded to us that we were not being of a given a choice and then later we found out that the sheriff went to the Merit board and had the rank of Correctional Captain eliminated from the testable ranks.
They gave us our 30 pieces of silver which basically equated to about $2,500 or 3 Grand a year and we went to our divisions.
Couple years later when we wanted to unionize just like the lieutenants and the Sergeants because we were not the position of making or setting policy. We were basically captains that were given an exempt rank of Commander.
Then we got called into another meeting where we got laid off by the sheriff's lawyer.
I suspect if we would have stayed in our civil service rank even though we didn't have Union representation we would have been fine.
So now you know the rest of the story.
Like some of the testers did receive the TEST....FOH
Gold Braid Pensions are rewards for funnelling kickbacks to City Hall, for decades. What part of this can’t the Feebs figure out ?
Let’s not forget the cheaters like “Papa”. That dude was merit from day one. Let’s be clear he never earned rank. He stole it by cheating.on exams or kissing Keating and Johnson’s ass. And he’s gonna retire with a gold braid pension? Absolutely disgusting. No integrity.
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