FOP to Endorse Chico
- Emanuel “sat on his hands, looked the other way and took the cash” when presented with an “Enron-style” scandal at Freddie Mac, said challenger Gery Chico, who is expected to be endorsed by Chicago’s Fraternal Order of Police today.
We're going to say this is probably the best decision to be made at the moment. Rahm is saying straight up that he's going to cut pensions for current city employees. In light of years worth of compromises and promises made to the police and fire departments to accept less money or different compensation (uniforms, duty availability, etc) in return for adjustments to pensions and the like to assist the city, any vote for Emanuel flies in the face of reasonable decision making.
Now get over to the Board of Elections website and register to vote.
THE DEADLINE FOR REGISTRATION IS 25 JANUARY.
Now get over to the Board of Elections website and register to vote.
THE DEADLINE FOR REGISTRATION IS 25 JANUARY.
Labels: city politics, elections
posted by SCC at 1:09 AM
199 Comments:
This is an excellent choice by the FOP. I watched the forum on channel 11 last night and i just couldn't believe how arrogant Rahm was. I can't believe that anyone would actually vote for this guy.
I'm hoping that, just like obama's other boy Alexi, Rahm gets sent on his way with his tail between his legs.
Now the FOP has to talk with the other unions and all of them get together and come out IN FORCE against Rahm Emanuel.
The unions still hold a lot of power and it's time they actually flex it.
Rahm Emanuel has publicly stated that he will reduce our pensions. If any union person or any family member of a union person votes for this guy they are basically voting to take money right out of your pension.
I beg any person that is even considering voting for Rahmbo to please vote for any other candidate. Heck, i'd even take mosley braun over rahm.
Rahm is pure evil, you can see it in his eyes. It seems as if he has no soul. He will come in and screw the city over so bad while making millions for himself and his connected friends on the back of the tax payers.
That's how he made his fortune...
I have to admit I am one of the po's that wasn't registered to vote. It wasn't until I started a family and actually had to worry about my future that I recently registered. We have to all we can to keep Rahm out.
Yeah 11th ward guy thanks!!!!
Chico gets my vote.
This Emmanuel has to be stopped! He is not interested in the everyday, hard working, tax-paying citizen.
He is interested in making himself rich and making himself a the next king of Chicago.
Citizens of Chicago, do not cast your vote for this man. He is very much a part of the same crooked group of Chicago politicians.
He has never been a middle class hard working person.
His ego is his only motivator and that ego has a wealthy appetite.
Do not vote for Emmanuel!
chico all the way baby--- rahmbo wants to continue the death spiral our pension is currently experiencing as it was taught to him by the dirty irish prick--- chico was a city worker and knows the fuck job the city has been putting on its employees---
It seems as if that arrogant prick Rahm has already written off the police vote. He's made it perfectly clear that he intends to bend us over and dry fuck us. He obviously feels that we represent an insignificant amount of votes. Let's not prove him right. It's critical that every one of us vote and choose someone other than the Rahmfather.
I'm hoping that we get a runoff between Rahm and Chico. That way Rahm would be in for a true dogfight.
I saw a quote that Rahm would be a younger more energetic version of dictator Daley. We need him like we need a hole in the head.
FUCK RAHM EMMANUEL!!!
We just suffered through 21 years of the evil Daley, now fucking Rahm Emmanuel wants to come in and finish the job? Rahm is the anti-christ as far as police & fire are concerned.
And he is endorsed by Bill "I did not have sex with that woman" Clinton?
BULLSHIT! Who do these power hungry mother fuckers think they are?
Any police officer who votes for Rahm Emmanuel needs to be beat with a hard stick. That man is no fucking good for us, no way. He came right out and said what he intends to do to us, read below, Rahm is quoted directly:
"In contrast to his main rivals in the mayor’s race, Rahm Emanuel has told labor leaders that he favors reducing pension benefits for the city’s existing work force and not just for new hires."
"Although Mr. Emanuel has not yet publicly detailed his plan to confront the city’s perennial budget deficits and the severely underfinanced employee pension funds, he told union officials in a private meeting on Dec. 15 that he thought it could be necessary to cut the pensions of ALL EMPLOYEES, said people who attended the meeting."
Got that? ALL EMPLOYEES! We police officers are covered in that "ALL EMPLOYEES" thing.
Do not vote for this man, get some professional help if you do for you will deserve the fucking you will undoubtedly get.
If you don't do anything else this year, at least register and vote. Someone posted that only 23% of FOP members are registered. If so, that is a crying shame.
Anyone and I mean anyone who votes for Rahm is a fool. This includes the HDO political hack TRU officer who has been seen on the news standing behind Rahm. Whatever promises the Rahm-father made to you I hope it was worth it. You sold your soul to the devil.
OT:
Yesterday was the candidate meeting at the FOP. The Clout Babies, (Shields Team) wanted to remove all the unit of assignments next to each candidate’s name from the ballots. Their argument,” a beat officer in 004 is more likely to get more votes than an officer that works in Personnel.”
There were about seventy FOP candidates at this meeting and all but the Shields Team voted to keep the unit of assignments next to each of the candidate’s names as it has been done in ALL the past FOP elections.
The Shields Team motto is Honesty, Integrity, Transparency, I think NOT!!! Why do they want to hide where their unit of assignment is? I guess it’s just too embarrassing.
I almost POOPED my pants when I saw this on the news. I think this is the 1st time in my 15 years that the FlOP has spoken truley for its members.
Nice try Bella and team. You still wont get my vote!
Rahm is going to bleed the city employees and their pensions dry the same way lil dickey has bled tge city dry. The only difference is that It won't take Rahm twenty years to do it.
Emanuel could do the job as mayor. The problem is that he is so divisive and vindictive, he is the worst possible choice for mayor. I am holding my nose and voting for Chico. He's the only one at this time that can beat this 7 fingered Napoleon.
The district I work in has less than 215 PO's assigned to it now. 8 or so years ago, there were over 300. We're down about 33% already and they aren't replacing any and they're talking about taking cops out of the "quieter" neighborhoods for the rough areas. Hell, they took one-third already, how much more do we have to give up?
Fop better endorse Chico he is not the best but out of the field of idiots he is the olnly logical choice!
A little off topic, but check this out!!
http://m.cnn.com/primary/_1K12uk-iihbmm469H
The wave continues to grow.
Yes. Smart.
Can't I just take all the money I paid into the pension fund and invest it myself?
Chico is the lesser of all the evils running for mayor. Rahm is the devil.
Get out there and vote. This is the biggest election of our career.
Go out there and fucking vote you sons of bitches. Get mad. Get angry. Go fucking do something.
Yes, you are correct. Insttead of raises that the city would have to match on the pension fund, we got money in the form of short term payouts. Nevertheless, I really do not think it matters who is elected mayor, in the near future, pension benefits for those still working will have to be adjusted. State Representative Kevin Mccarthy has already stated they are looking at just such a state bill. The actuaries have stated that without adjustments the pension funds cannot survive. What is the alternative? No pension for anyone? or a higher retirement age? People will say anything to get elected. But once they are in office the realities hit them square in the face and they change their tune. Just look at our president. He now embraces just about all of the things he slammed Bush for.
OT Saw Da Mayo is going to receive an award as Mayor of the year in DC. What happens when Obama is gone and a real prosecuter comes after him and throws him in prison? Does he have to give the award back like Reggie Bush gave back the Heisman Trophy? This city will be hit with a permanent eclipse some day from all of Da Mayo's thievery. It wont have a chance of change with either Rahmo, Braun or Chico. Daley will still be in charge holding his award! SAD!
FOP got it right.
If this is true than the FOP has just gained some credit in my book! Sneed for weeks has pegged the RAHAMINATOR as Daley's heir apparant with Daley's blessing and discredits everyone else. Now if the UNIONS will do the same afterall he stated ALL unions have to go and give up more benefits but will any of the POLITICANS give up just one!
Chico is the man!!
It seems The Good Ol' Boys' Network which is the current FLOP was practicing "Business As Usual" yesterday at the meeting for all those running in the upcoming election.
To wit: Rich "A" overheard afterwards at the General FOP meeting saying how the 3-hour window in which to drop off ballots in person the day of the election was challenged by a member of Shields Team, and how the current regime tried dismissing adhering to the rules of the election, citing "past practice".
In a nutshell, the boys on the way out are clinging to the last glimmer of hope that they've employed in elections past...INTERPRETING ELECTION RULES AS THEY SEE FIT. Seems getting called-out on it ruffled their feathers REAL good...wish I could've seen it firsthand.
ALSO...Arbitrator Benn (of Piss-Poor Contract Fame) and FLOP In-House attorney, through some weird "coincidence" I'm sure, were both present to moderate the proceeding & "sort-out" any items in the election rules that were contested by either side. When asked how/why Arbitrator Benn was selected, FLOP's response was (not verbatim) "he was available & we know his history". When put on the spot as to why an In-House attorney was selected to preside over the proceedings as well, I was told you almost could've heard a pin drop.
*** The membership needs to be aware of how things are actually done surrounding this election. The Good Ol' Boys have attempted to stack the deck against it's opponents, and it's all becoming crystal clear whose best interests they REALLY have in mind...AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE MEMBERSHIP'S.
- 2 Years & Counting Til I'm Outta Here
We need to unite.
Chico is the way to go ! OT-Just heard of 023 SGT trying to screw over a PO after the PO called him out for talking shit about him. What happened to "talking it out"?
Those of you who work shift may be interested in voting absentee. This is the link for the application form.
http://www.chicagoelections.com/dm/general/document_399.pdf
GREAT NEWS!!!
We gotta go with Chico guys. Rahm just proves over and over he's an outsider DC guy and having Clinton pushing for him should scare us all. The scary part is Rahm could care less about the 470 plus stars on the wall at 35th he still wants to cut our pension, medical etc. etc. But we can't talk about the aldermen's pensions and Rahm's possible 3 pensions.
No one will mention how we put in every two weeks to the pension and that we get no social secutity. He will be very unfair and hard to do business with. Imagine when it's contract negotiation time! Rahm is an outsider that will destroy chicago. Just imagine how much unchecked power Rahm will have with Obama in the White House and Eric Holder in the justice department. Hell, Raham probably had alot to do with putting Holder there. That's way too much power for one man.
Good! Finally making a decision we agree upon!
Speaking of politics, here's a good one - FOP has an election meeting last night. One of the Team Shields Legal Beagles made a big argument to keep unit identifiers OFF THE BALLOT. The SHIelds team does not want voters to know that two of his guys (McCarthy and Collins)work in the Superintendent's office. What a joke.
Although I would prefer DelValle, I don't see him getting enough votes----like him or not, we have to vote for Chico to prevent the unthinkable.
Listen all! You see what just happened to our taxes because of Quinn getting voted in! WAKE UP! If anyone votes for Emmanual, you deserve whatever happens to you! The guy CLEARLY stated that he said he was going after our pensions! HELLLOOO!!!
Man, I find this unbelievable that there is even a discussion about this! And we wonder why this job has turned to shit...
PLEASE....If you have not registered...You have to NOW!!!!! We can not let this Rahm fool in....we have to take this city back!!!!! He wants to mess with our medical...you might never have gone on it, but a bad accident or serious illness...you will need it!!! It's Ours!!!! Also our pensions???? We all want Our Pension it's what we have worked for!!! No Rahm!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It seems as if that arrogant prick Rahm has already written off the police vote.
THERE IS NO POLICE VOTE! We sit around and bitch. "get rid of residency!" but don't really do anything about it. "get rid of the 6 day work week!" and bitch to holy hell...when they get rid of the 6 day work week. "fix our pension!" but never go to a single pension meeting. "FOP sucks!" yet never go to a single union meeting. The candidates IGNORE US BECAUSE WE ARE A HOLLOW VOICE. Coppers have NO problem taking over situations on the street, yet, for whatever reason, fail to take ownership of their own city...
Anyone and I mean anyone who votes for Rahm is a fool. This includes the HDO political hack TRU officer who has been seen on the news standing behind Rahm. Whatever promises the Rahm-father made to you I hope it was worth it. You sold your soul to the devil.
1/19/2011 06:11:00 AM
Another P.O. Willing to sell his soul for some vague ptomise.
Yes, you are correct. Insttead of raises that the city would have to match on the pension fund, we got money in the form of short term payouts. Nevertheless, I really do not think it matters who is elected mayor, in the near future, pension benefits for those still working will have to be adjusted. State Representative Kevin Mccarthy has already stated they are looking at just such a state bill. The actuaries have stated that without adjustments the pension funds cannot survive. What is the alternative? No pension for anyone? or a higher retirement age? People will say anything to get elected. But once they are in office the realities hit them square in the face and they change their tune. Just look at our president. He now embraces just about all of the things he slammed Bush for.
1/19/2011 07:56:00 AM
Here's a fact. If the city would have been fully funding the pension all along, then we wouldn't have the pension crisis that we have now. The city chose not to fund our pensions. We can not let them continue to make us and the other city unions look like greedy bastards.
bobbo said...
Can't I just take all the money I paid into the pension fund and invest it myself?
1/19/2011 07:37:00 AM
Not a wise choice. To have a 60K yearly retirement income, you'd have to earn, create or inherit, and then save $3 Million (3M?) dollars and get a 2% percent yearly return on it, year after year, until you get your ticket punched. Not many people on the job would be in that category.
Shortshanks and the rest of the politicians have been lying to us for years about our pensions. Lying. That's the only thing to call it.
At least Rahm (for whom I have little use, frankly) is telling us the truth about the situation. The funds are broke, and the City doesn't have any magic extra funds lying around to stock 'em up again.
bobbo said...
Can't I just take all the money I paid into the pension fund and invest it myself?
1/19/2011 07:37:00 AM
you could, if you weren't only twee years old.
For those of you that just don't want to vote because you don't like any of the candidates, please reconsider. NOT voting just secures a vote for Emmanuel. At least voting for someone else (anyone else), will cancel out one of his votes. VOTE VOTE VOTE!!!
bobbo said...
Can't I just take all the money I paid into the pension fund and invest it myself?
1/19/2011 07:37:00 AM
No
I heard F.O.P endorsed Mullen. Sensitive topic to talk, but Mullen doesn't stand a chance to win.
F.O.P didn't think this one too wisely. Sorry just being realistic. We need a damn strong army of Alderman in this new City Council. It's time to stick together. My pension is at risk and I need someone who is going to put up a good fight!
Anonymous said...
OT:
Yesterday was the candidate meeting at the FOP. The Clout Babies, (Shields Team) wanted to remove all the unit of assignments next to each candidate’s name from the ballots. Their argument,” a beat officer in 004 is more likely to get more votes than an officer that works in Personnel.”
There were about seventy FOP candidates at this meeting and all but the Shields Team voted to keep the unit of assignments next to each of the candidate’s names as it has been done in ALL the past FOP elections.
The Shields Team motto is Honesty, Integrity, Transparency, I think NOT!!! Why do they want to hide where their unit of assignment is? I guess it’s just too embarrassing.
1/19/2011 06:20:00 AM
Liar.
Half or more of the Shields Team stood to keep the unit designator on there. I was right there standing with them. It has been there for years and is the easiest way to identify one goddamn Murphy from the next 6.
That's CW for you again, someone asks a question and they laugh, roll their eyes and guffaw and sound like good Daley machine Democrats.
Go enjoy your free cheap beer and crappy pizza. The winds of change are coming. Feel it?
If you don't want Rahm, DO NOT spread your votes out over two or three others, pick one......
why don't the current FOP leaders or the Shields team organize a voter registration drive, going out to the districts and signing guys up on all watches...we can't afford any excuses as to why guys don't register... I would volunteer to sign guys up, if you need registrants, I would volunteer my time to go sit a couple shift changes at some district stations...
Anonymous said...
I almost POOPED my pants when I saw this on the news. I think this is the 1st time in my 15 years that the FlOP has spoken truley for its members.
Nice try Bella and team. You still wont get my vote!
1/19/2011 06:27:00 AM
Actually it was more back room trickery. Rahm Emmanuel actually received the most ballots from police officers. Just try to get the actual count, CW won't tell you. Rahm was a few percentage points ahead of Chico.
Knowing that endorsing Rahm meant a quick death to their re-election chances the board declared a "statistical dead heat" and changed the procedure mid stream and behind closed locked doors.
Then the board decided per the new just decided procedure for the board to vote for endorsement of one of the top two ballot getters.
And lo and behold, Gery Chico was endorsed unanimously! What a wonderful surprise! Except Rahm Emmanuel got the most ballots returned. That was discarded and the new and improved method of fixing the results was instantly adopted.
By Jesus, Mary and Joseph, I swear this is true. It was rigged, as if anything in this city isn't.
The ONLY good thing Rahm probably would have done was break the teeth, jaws and backs of the west & south side rever-rear ends and the alderfools as far as their interference in how CPD and other entities are administered.
Yes... They are scared shitless of being shoved into irrelevency and no longer being thought of as "impotant."
For what it's worth it would be nice to finally see the feebs dank on some rever-rear end ass with the same ardor and zeal they reserve for publicly rifling a Copper's underwear drawer at j-fled's insistence.
The feeb satellite office at HQ is a damning indication of their long term intent we reckon.
In light of everything else, it might be Chico with nostrils pinched between thumb and forefinger...
Rahm is not the answer for Chicago. It is more of the same pay to play political shennanigans that has been going on for the last 21 years. Rahm = the end of Chicago.
In addition to voting for a new Mayor we have the ability to do something that has not been done in years, elect aldermen who actually represent their constituants. An independant council may be more important then who gets elected Mayor. Do your homework on your aldermanic races
Great News,
we better hope rahm doesn't get in because he will bring in all the "amabo" people and it will be hell after the 2012 election.
FOP got it right this time!
This calls for a SCC poll! I will vote Chico for mayor and Garrido for alderman.
1/19/2011 01:05:00 AM
CHICO/GARRIDO; that's my vote
Anyone who thinks none of these mayoral candidates would ever dare to reduce the pension benefits for current CPD AND retirees is a fool.
Say bye bye to duty availability, uniform allowance, living wage, retiree healthcare...say hello to furlough days and 20% layoffs...2012 is shaping up to be the end times of the CPD...
Thanks FLOP for another dose of your inspired leadership. You fat f*cks jumped into the sack with Shortshanks so many times the bed is finally broke. So many nasty stains you can't flip the FLOP mattress anymore. Too little too late.
I registered to vote last week. Shame on me for not doing it sooner but I am attempting redemption. Vote anyone but Rahm!
As we sit hear and cry about how we are getting screwed, let's look at the facts. We screw ourselves. First, we don't register to vote. Second, even if we are registered, we are too lazy to go out and actually vote. Third, we vote for idiots who stick it in our ass. Classic example, drive around the 36th Ward. How many coppers have "Rice" signs on their lawn? Far too many. Rice is no friend of the police. He is an example of what is wrong with this city. This ward gives you 3 others who are running who could help the police and fire, but we support this goof. We are our own worst enemies. Do your homework, support your own, and let's start taking control of our own destiny. We can't continue to back fools who are our for themselves. We NEED to elect poeple to represent US. And if we don't do this, then STFU. We will have done it to ourselves.
blah blah blah. only what 29% of chicago cops voted last election? i wanna say it was even lower than that! but 99% sure do cry and complain. register and go vote!! otherwise u have no right to gripe or complain. stay safe!
Yes let's listen to the genius do nothings from the fop. Change is necessary. Chico may of had my vote before but because of the fop endorsement I am going to rethink that. The pension system is fucked anyway. Its time for change in the fop. Then maybe I will take them seriously.
This Emmanuel has to be stopped! He is not interested in the everyday, hard working, tax-paying citizen.
He is interested in making himself rich and making himself a the next king of Chicago.
Citizens of Chicago, do not cast your vote for this man. He is very much a part of the same crooked group of Chicago politicians.
He has never been a middle class hard working person.
His ego is his only motivator and that ego has a wealthy appetite.
Do not vote for Emmanuel!
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HOW TRUE! THE ONLY "REAL" JOB THIS BUM EVER HAD WAS AT AN ARBY'S RESTAURANT..AND HE SLICED OFF PART OF HIS FINGER! D'oh!
That is a switch for them, one would think they would go along with the regular dem whores. It's to bad the big whore, Eddie Burke is endorsing Chico.
anyone who believes you would be better off taking the money you paid into the pension and investing it yourself is a fool. If you think you can invest 6 or 7 thousand a year and in 29 years have enough money to pay yourself 60 plus thousand a year, shows you have flunked math and business 101
Rahm Emanuel wants to fuck with our Pension, My vote and my families votes are going to Chico.
Chico helped ruin the public schools. He is one of Daley's hacks going back decades. Why do you all think he will be any better than any other douchebag candidate? You are smoking crack while drinking the Kool-Aid. He says he wants to put 2000 more police on the street, yeah right! Empty promises that he knows he can't keep. Camden NJ just lays of nearly half their department and they have the 2nd highest crime rate in the country, per capita. That sets a precedent that our mayor can use, whomever he or she is. They are all the same. Our pensions are fucked. We are fucked. Things are NOT going to get better in this town. If you have less than 10 years, take a leave of absence, move to another state, find a job, then pull your money out of the pension and use it to buy a nice house in that other state. Get out while you can!
The real arrogance is the FOP & it's memberships delusion that they are this big voting block& can actually influence voters.
Hell,in FOP Elections only a 1/3 of the Membership cast ballots?
The prudent course of action is not to endorse anyone.
Why is it Never mentioned that Chico was Daleys Chief of Staff?
Rahm keeps saying the pension system is "not honest". The pension is as simple as a contract gets - Employee contributes 9% and Employer contributes 9%. Nothing honest or dishonest about this.
What was dishonest was Mayor Daley using the 9% he was suppposed to contribute to pay for all his programs that got him re-elected. THAT WAS DISHONEST. BUT RAHM WONT SAY THAT.
Rahm looks down his nose at us and thinks we are too stupid to figure out his "Washington Talk".
You think he is arrogant now? This is during the courtship. When that is over the malignant Rahm behind that smirk will come out.
Oh, and not just for one term. Daley showed Rahm the playbook on how to spend our money to get re-elected for LIFE.
ALL DEMOCRATS ARE COMMUNISTS SAYS:
I think I'd rather hold my nose and vote for "Chico the Communista", than to vote for
"Rahmmie the Commie". Basically though, they both suck.
There should be no endorsements by our union, period. We should not be beholding to politicians nor they to us.
This elections id turning into the Daley camp vs The Burke came. Same difference!
FUCK RAHM EMMANUEL!!!
He is just here to line his pockets! He will do nothing to help the working man or women! He will take take and take some more for himself and his piece of shit friends! Please all Chicago unions get together and DO NOT VOTE FOR RAHM!!!!
OT: A bit sacrilegious, but relevant.
Our Father who art in Chicago, Football be they game. Let Forte run, 1 Super Bowl won, on earth as it is in Soldier Field. Give us Sunday a playoff victory, and forgive us our penalties, as we defeat those packers who play against us, lead us not into elimination, but deliver us to Dallas! In the name of the fans, the city of Chicago, and the good Bears name, Amen. GO BEARS!
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Great decision FOP. Is there any word on the results regarding the residency portion of the questionnaire?
"We're going to say this is probably the best decision to be made at the moment."--SCC
Lesser of all evils, since the Republican Party as usual stops at the city line.
Braun is our best bet. Her and rahm together doing something would be the best for the city
Englewood out!
And you think Chico wouldn't touch pensions. Really?
Was told by a VERY RELIABLE source that only 23% of coppers are registered to vote in a very pro police area on the SW side. Was told by a state representative of this fact, the same representative who represents that area. Now how fucking hard is it to VOTE? And WHY are we not REGISTERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The politicians KNOW the numbers, they know who votes people, and they know we dont. We dont have a leg to stand on when we go looking for support of our causes and these politicians can tell us to get fucked because u guys dont vote anyways. THATS A PATHETIC NUMBER and I assume its not much better in other areas with high numbers of police living. SCC consider posting those numbers in BLOLD PRINT as a post please. Thats disgraceful and needs to change. When I heard that i inquired about becoming a deputy registrar and when i do im going to make a point of going to roll calls all over the city on my own time to register guys. But I dont have enough time to do it before the 25th, so please get guys registered
Chico....way to go. Maybe CHICO can do something positive to get the 600 officers their MONETARY SETTLEMENT MONIES from that stupid BEHAVIORIAL PROGRAM.
Why vote? In some wards the alderman's hacks are voting for their residents behind their backs.
Rahm/Chico: still connected to the man. Both have skeletons rotting in their closets.
Vote for Carol!
Chico? The lesser of the evils? The same Chico who cut his teeth as a law student as a clerk in Ed Burke's Office? The same Chico who was da mayor's chief of staff? So he held positions in Offices where the elected officials all made the decisions the past 20 years to not make the city contributions to the pension plans. Becareful what you wish for! A wolf dressed in lamb costume. Just like Governor Quinn running on an election platform of a 1% income tax raise. Keep voting Dumbocrat Chicago!
OT: Can any one recommend a good lawyer. I need a lawyer for an off duty incident (civil).
Does it really matter who will be the next dictator? Until people start realizing that the illegals in this state,that is killing our pensions we are fucked. The money we have spent on schools, welfare and medical expenses over the past five years would have put our pensions in the black. All the candidates love them so, we are fucked.
We can't keep spending money on people because it's the human thing to do. None of the candidates are willing to address this issue and from what T see most of the police in this city don't care. When your budget doesn't pay the bills these same fucking politicians {both sides} tell us we have to suck it up. I cant get more money in my budget unless I work more Hrs. The city and state get their money from us to create the budget. They know they can't tax us any more so they will forced to reduce our pensions. crying and bithing wont stop it. I am not anti Mexican in fact, I thing people can learn much from their culture. However the illegals are our downfall.......... believe it or not!
The Chico Campaign needs volunteers!
If you've got time to spare, the Chico For Mayor Campaign needs you! Volunteers are needed to work the phones, especially on EVENING SHIFT, 1700/2100 hrs. Chico For Mayor Headquarters is located at 333 West Wacker Drive, on the 3rd floor.
Tel: 312-291-9800
E-mail: Info@GeryChicoForMayor.com
We need to come together to make this happen!
Reach out to your neighbors & friends.
Lol...alderman dixon suing cpd over her dui last jan. 21. Can we sue her
OT---This happened in Baltimore in September of this year. Think it can't happen here??? Vote Rahmberg Rabbit in and see.
"The unions contend that the city knowingly underfunded the plan for about a decade while overstating its worth, leading to a shortfall that was compounded by the recession. Now, they argue, city officials want union members and their survivors to sacrifice about $1 billion of what was promised in their contracts."
City officials declined to comment on the lawsuit.
Anyone and I mean anyone who votes for Rahm is a fool. This includes the HDO political hack TRU officer who has been seen on the news standing behind Rahm. Whatever promises the Rahm-father made to you I hope it was worth it. You sold your soul to the devil.
1/19/2011 06:11:00 AM
Sellout. Someone needs to teach this rookie about "WE" instead of "ME". Just another officer who doesn't care if our pension goes bust and all city workers get the shaft. As long as he gets a promise of a cush spot somewhere.
I don't buy water or use any parking meters in Chicago (Western Detroit). I also am not interested in registering any of my guns, In three years I can finally MOVE. I'm registered to vote along w/ my special needs kid. That's two votes for Chico. From an old cop family that once danced w/ Carol.
FOP coming out of their shell for once...Must be their election time. First time anyone showed up to thier press conference.
They're tireless warriors on our side...Yawn! Enjoy your last month boys.
Daley was the thief--Rahm will be the arsonist. It's Rahm's job to burn the house down to destroy the evidence.
Rahm wants to not let teachers strike, he wants to kill our pensions.
Bad news.
The Shields Team motto is Honesty, Integrity, Transparency, I think NOT!!! Why do they want to hide where their unit of assignment is? I guess it’s just too embarrassing.
1/19/2011 06:20:00 AM
Sounds like BS. They have the units on the posters in the roll calls and on their books.
Bella is done.
This is all different ways to keep the FLOP in office. It's a horse and pony show so that they can pretend that they're doing something for us.
Mark Brown wrote in today's Sun-Times that Mr. Emanuel "made $320,000.00 for his 14 month stint at Freddie Mac, which may have required him to attend as few as 9 board meetings."
And first responders are the problem?
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WOULD LIKE TO HERE MORE ABOUT THE F.O.P ELECTIONS DEALING WITH SHIELDS.
BELLA VS SHIELD!!!
HOO HUM
I believe that Rahm E. is about as truthful as a used car salesman and the morals of an adulterous ex-president Clinton! Fish anyone?!
He is no better than Mayor Daley, who spent too much time in office and basically screwed up the city finances with his goofy gimics of privatization and losing Olympic bid! We are quickly becoming the laughing stock of this country due to the highest taxes and fees in the United States!
Anyone but Rahm, another young Daley disciple!
Thanks Mayor Daley!
Keep Rahm out of the Mayors Office!
Da Pelon
pick one......
1/19/2011 10:56:00 AM
uh, didn't we just do that?
The winds of change are coming. Feel it?
1/19/2011 10:48:00 AM
it's cold and i don't like it.
Mommeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
Channel 5(6pm) just announced that the Fop was backing Chico. the last thing the announcer said was that "The FOP is supporting Chico even though the rank and file were split on supporting Rahm and Chico".
The media just can't let the truth be the truth. They have to try to split the vote towards their guy huh?
OFF TOPIC
I just received the new pension fund newsletter. Is Hauser brain dead? Pension fund going down the tube, legislation entered to alter it, politicians trying to do away with it and this guy writes an article about China! If I still lived in Illinois I would run for that spot. This guy is a total goof.
old retired guy
Sooo....Miguel Del Valle gets CR numbers on cops? Thats the story he tells on his first question? Hey Miguel, if you really wanted to have "the supervisor sit the cop down and talk to him about not using foul language when you encounter the public", you could have called the watch commander and asked him to pull the officer in and talk to him. Not by filing a CR number.
boys and girls-our endorsement means zilch if we dont vote. Donahue did an audit and spoke at a geneal meeting about the pct of coppers not registered to vote. He would not tell the members present what the pct was because he was so ashamed. It had to be under 50 percent. Chico not the answer either good day
What's Chico's stand on the residency requirement for city employees?
Sent mine into the FOP....Chico!!!! No Way will I vote for Rahm!!!!
For those of you that just don't want to vote because you don't like any of the candidates, please reconsider. NOT voting just secures a vote for Emmanuel. At least voting for someone else (anyone else), will cancel out one of his votes. VOTE VOTE VOTE!!!
1/19/2011 10:38:00 AM
uh, not exactly, math wizard, not exactly.
1. not voting at all does not add to rahmbo's totals. all it does is not add to any of his opponents' totals.
2. voting for '(anyone else)' only adds to the total of the one 'anyone else' you vote for.
3. merely canceling out one of rahmbo's votes, by voting for 'anyone else', can, at best, result in forcing rahmbo, the currently touted leading candidate, into a one-on-one run off election, against whoever gets the 2nd most votes.
4. united voting for a single candidate in the initial election is the only way to ensure that rahmbo doesn't get to face a weak candidate in the run off election, presuming, of course, that rahmbo will get the most votes, will get less than 50% + 1 and make it to a run off.
5. assuming that all voters who voted and didn't vote for rahmbo will ALL vote in the run off and ALL vote for rahmbo's opponent is naive, at best.
6. the 2nd highest vote getter has to come very close to the 1sr highest vote getter's total, least those voters scattering their votes amongst the feeble candidates in the initial election decide to: a) not bother to vote again in the run off, or b) jump on the perceived 'winner' bandwagon.
7. and you can bet that those group voters backing the straggler candidates will be wheeling and dealing with both the 2 top vote getters for their group's votes, if they garner any significant number of votes in the initial election.
anyone but rahmbo won't cut it.
it has to be a single SOMEONE.
and who did we just endorse today?
Look, I'm a civilian and I'm afraid I can't afford high pensions for you guys because I myself have no job and no pension. Where do you think money comes from, we can just get it by raiding the bags of gold in Scrooge McDuck's basement? It's time for everybody to get real.
Having said that, I'm glad you are pushing for Chico, because I just can't stand the way the power structure decided Rahm was going to be mayor and that was it. Chico may not be perfect, but Rahm is really not from here even if he ever did and/or does live in Chicago. Being from here is a mindset and he hasn't got it. When he speaks so nicely on TV he's faking. I don't think for a second that he'll ever be on my side. I don't need some power-maddened a-hole pulling strings, throwing sharp elbows and cursing on my behalf. I just need City Hall to get off our backs a little for a change so we can go about our lives and recreate some kind of normalcy. That's what Chicago is supposed to be about.
the Sgts endorsed Chico already.
http://www.gerychicoformayor.com/docs/1.10.11%20Chico%20-%20Press%20Release%20-%20City%20employee%20corruption%20and%20Sergeants'%20endorsement.pdf
"What happens when Obama is gone and a real prosecuter comes after him.."
Answer: NOTHING
Daley has insulated himself so well by passing the wealth around that every pol that has ever had anything to do with him or passed through Chicago has dirt on him and is not going to squeal.
And if Richie ever thought about talking, they would Cermack him.
Rahm is Obama's puppetboy to take over and run the Daley/ChicagoDemocrat Crime syndicate for the next 30 years.
Box Chevy...you're usually correct, but wrong this time. Rahm will reach out to and empower the fake Revs like never before. The machine needs black votes and no challenges from the left.
The ones who will be screwed are the goofy old seniors who will vote for him because he's white.
Rahm considers old white people and unions to be yesterday's coalition. They know they are 5 years away from an unbreakable demographic majority of illegal aliens and their spawn, gays, and various victim constituencies. Campaigns will be fueled by green tech contract grifters and the outfit.
Good. Now let's get rid of this bullshit residency requirement. Who would want to live in the city? There are absolutely no benefits whatsoever to living in this shit-hole that they call the "greatest city in the world". Fuck that!
ONE QUESTION FOR THE CURRENT FOP STAFF...
Why was arbitrator BENN hired to make decisions regarding the upcoming FOP election??????
YES...you head correctly....the FOP has hired the same guy that screwed us on this last contract. The SAME arbitrator that the FOP KNEW screwed over TWO (2) other law enforcement agencies just prior to arbitrating for us,... AND STILL DECIDED TO USE HIS "SERVICES" even when given a choice of two other arbitrators.
Add these 9 degrees of separation, and you can see what alot of PO's have figured out long ago....that the current FOP is in bed with Daley, doing some of his dirty work by f***ing over the very guys (US) that they are supposed to protect. Watch and see where Donahue lands when this is over. I bet a HUGE job with Daley ties. Same probably goes for the other puppets on staff.
Bella, Caparelle, Aguiliar, and the rest of you sell-outs ARE DONE.
Wake up and see what they are doing over there on Washington St. guys and girls. We have been sold out...AGAIN. It's time for a house cleaning. My vote and the vote of everyone I talk to is going to SHIELDS. Its gonna be good riddance to bad rubbish come 04 March 2011.
Speaking of politics, here's a good one - FOP has an election meeting last night. One of the Team Shields Legal Beagles made a big argument to keep unit identifiers OFF THE BALLOT. The SHIelds team does not want voters to know that two of his guys (McCarthy and Collins)work in the Superintendent's office. What a joke.
1/19/2011 09:16:00 AM
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It was Megan Whelehan Curry
ET. who made a stink about the unit identifiers, she didn't want them on the ballots. What a joke!!!
When looking for FOP candidates we should look at guy and girl who are not on teams. We need more patrol in the FOP leadership. Not special units.
.....I beg any person that is even considering voting for Rahmbo to please vote for any other candidate. Heck, i'd even take mosley braun over rahm.....
NOW THAT IS STUPID!!!
We need a unified vote behind only one person! A split vote will certainly put Rahm in for sure.
Carol is a very weak candidate and cannot gather a strong vote from any group.
Now is the time for the city clerk to also step down. We cannot have two hispanics in the race either.
Hell, Carol might as well drop out now also so we have a fighting chance against this Out-Of-Towner from Winnetka!
Shortshanks and the rest of the politicians have been lying to us for years about our pensions. Lying. That's the only thing to call it.
At least Rahm (for whom I have little use, frankly) is telling us the truth about the situation. The funds are broke, and the City doesn't have any magic extra funds lying around to stock 'em up again.
1/19/2011 10:37:00 AM
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WRONG. One word. TIF. (Actually, one acronym.) Still TIF.
The lead story on the media outlets was FOP's endorsement of Chico. BUT, every story hammered away at how there's dissention among the police over whether it should have been Chico or Rahm.
I don't hear much dissention since Rahm said he's going gunning for the unions and plans to hack at city workers' pensions.
Still trying to control the press, Rahm?
Those of you who work shift may be interested in voting absentee. This is the link for the application form.
http://www.chicagoelections.com/dm/general/document_399.pdf
1/19/2011 08:45:00 AM
Nice try, troll. Anyone can get to a voting booth before or after work.
Your bullshit attempt to send another bunch of votes to that asshole Rahm is a joke.
Do I need to get an event number to go vote?
Every member of the Chicago FOP should be raving mad! Why does the FOP spend thousands of "our" dollars to conduct a bogus election. We were sent ballots for our input for the endorsement of a mayoral candidate. When pressed for the breakdown of the results of the election, MP of FOP said Rahm Emanuel came in first place, Gary Chico second, Carol Mosely Braun, third, and DeValle in fourth place. So why put on a front? FOP is lying to you. You may not like the results of the election, but at least have some integrity and not be decietful to the membership. Its our money you're wasting.
If you don't want Rahm, DO NOT spread your votes out over two or three others, pick one......
Well said... If De Valle and Chico dont unite then voting for either of them will be like voting for Rahm. If they dont unite I will vote for Carol Mosley Braun. Id rather have her for 4 years than have Rahm for life.
If De Valle and Chico unite then We can vote for Chico and he can win!
Voting for Rahm is as smart as voting for Quinn, thanks for the tax raise jagoff!
I'm sure Rahm is earning a nice golden pension... He gives a shit about the police, fire, streets and san and other city departments. Glory hog
Anonymous said...
The real arrogance is the FOP & it's memberships delusion that they are this big voting block& can actually influence voters.
Hell,in FOP Elections only a 1/3 of the Membership cast ballots?
The prudent course of action is not to endorse anyone.
Why is it Never mentioned that Chico was Daleys Chief of Staff?
1/19/2011 12:27:00 PM
I was mentioned at the press conference with Donahue and dozens of other cops, active and retired, all around Chico.
Phil Schitz here said...
Chico gets my vote.
Great Rahm has my vote we can cancel each other out. Beautiful
Now the FOP has to talk with the other unions and all of them get together and come out IN FORCE against Rahm Emanuel.
The unions still hold a lot of power and it's time they actually flex it.
The PBPA is also endorsing Chico.
OT: Can any one recommend a good lawyer. I need a lawyer for an off duty incident (civil).
1/19/2011 04:11:00 PM
Dan Herbert, Tom Needham or Paul G from the Union
For all you ass-hats that think the city wasn't putting in their share of the pension, think again. They were, the problem lies in the multiplier. According to the pension newsletter the multiplier from 1982 is still in effect. For every dollar the member puts in, the city puts in 2 (1:2). There was never any adjustment. The city is using a 29 year old method of contributing. Currently the newsletter states that the city should be contributing 5.87 dollars to every 1 contributed by the member. The new pension law mandates the city contribute on an actuarial basis and begin doing so by 2015, thus the meltdown on tv shortly after the bill passed by richie pisspants daley.
But *I* can't have a pension, eh??
Daley Files to Sell $8.3 Million JPMorgan Shares After Joining Obama Team
William Daley, President Barack Obama’s new chief of staff, filed a notice with the Securities and Exchange Commission today to sell 186,190 shares of JPMorgan Chase & Co. that he valued at almost $8.3 million.
The approximate date of sale was listed in the filing as today and comes as Daley, a former JPMorgan executive, divests his holdings to work at the White House.
Daley’s last day as a vice chairman at JPMorgan was Jan. 7. He resigned from the boards of Boeing Co. and Abbott Laboratories the same day.
Ladies and gentlemen you better do your homework on Chico. He has been Shortshanks puppet for the last twenty years. He will cut the pensions if elected. He single handedly brought down a 150 yr. old law firm as managing partner.
Chico is telling you what you want to hear. Rahm tells it like it is.
Anonymous said...
For all you ass-hats that think the city wasn't putting in their share of the pension, think again. They were, the problem lies in the multiplier. According to the pension newsletter the multiplier from 1982 is still in effect. For every dollar the member puts in, the city puts in 2 (1:2). There was never any adjustment. The city is using a 29 year old method of contributing. Currently the newsletter states that the city should be contributing 5.87 dollars to every 1 contributed by the member. The new pension law mandates the city contribute on an actuarial basis and begin doing so by 2015, thus the meltdown on tv shortly after the bill passed by richie pisspants daley.
1/19/2011 09:17:00 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
If this is true then why hasn't Mike Shields spoken up and clarified this for us.
He is, after all, our pension board rep.
Anonymous said...
why don't the current FOP leaders or the Shields team organize a voter registration drive, going out to the districts and signing guys up on all watches...we can't afford any excuses as to why guys don't register... I would volunteer to sign guys up, if you need registrants, I would volunteer my time to go sit a couple shift changes at some district stations...
1/19/2011 10:57:00 AM
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If you went ot FOP meetings you would know that they have been trying to register people.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/local/ct-met-daley-video-poker-20110120,0,3195224.story
as the shortshank turns......
ALSO...Arbitrator Benn (of Piss-Poor Contract Fame) and FLOP In-House attorney, through some weird "coincidence" I'm sure, were both present to moderate the proceeding & "sort-out" any items in the election rules that were contested by either side. When asked how/why Arbitrator Benn was selected, FLOP's response was (not verbatim) "he was available & we know his history".
I bet they do....
Chico is telling you what you want to hear. Rahm tells it like it is.
1/19/2011 09:31:00 PM
so, what you're saying is that we're fucked if we do and we're fucked if we don't.
you don't, by any chance, have stock in an anal lubricant manufacturing company, do you?
Nice try, troll. Anyone can get to a voting booth before or after work.
Your bullshit attempt to send another bunch of votes to that asshole Rahm is a joke.
1/19/2011 07:47:00 PM
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I'm a City worker and voting for Chico, not Rahm. I worked shift for years and wanted to give people an easier way to cast a legal ballot. I mailed my application in today. I prefer voting in the privacy of my home. This way I don't have to walk the gauntlet of hacks who hang around the polling place.
GO CHICO!
Daley’s last day as a vice chairman at JPMorgan was Jan. 7. He resigned from the boards of Boeing Co. and Abbott Laboratories the same day.
1/19/2011 09:31:00 PM
the good thing is, nobody ever takes it with them.
the bad thing is, they're still here.
Great Rahm has my vote we can cancel each other out. Beautiful
1/19/2011 08:51:00 PM
thanks, carol, you had me at hello.
The prudent course of action is not to endorse anyone.
Why is it Never mentioned that Chico was Daleys Chief of Staff?
1/19/2011 12:27:00 PM
the prudent course of action is to pay attention.
it has been mentioned, many, many, many, many, many times.
"It was rigged, as if anything in this city isn't."
Daley's Legacy strikes again! The culture of criminality is dyed into the fabric of everything the city touches.
Its our money you're wasting.
1/19/2011 07:52:00 PM
picky, picky, picky.
Do I need to get an event number to go vote?
1/19/2011 07:48:00 PM
that hard up for activity?
Good. Now let's get rid of this bullshit residency requirement. Who would want to live in the city? There are absolutely no benefits whatsoever to living in this shit-hole that they call the "greatest city in the world". Fuck that!
1/19/2011 07:11:00 PM
every so often, a few ants try to flee the nest.
Ot
Scc how is it that the president of the wta (KB who is now detailed to intelligence) can be a WTA exhibitor at the Las Vegas "Shot Show", taking pictures with Matt Hughes (UFC) and Steven Segal WHILE BEING CARRIED CODE 49 by the department. Explain to me exactly what intel she is gathering and why my taxes are paying for it when I can't get code 49 to attend training at the academy. This is criminal. They are slick though, they haven't approved the A & A's yet. Sitting in preliminary waiting to see if there is any fallout first. Welcome to the unit Barbie Doll.
What's Chico's stand on the residency requirement for city employees?
1/19/2011 06:39:00 PM
don't worry about me.
worry about me worrying about you worrying about me.
Chico not the answer either good day
1/19/2011 06:33:00 PM
so, what do you think the question is?
Rahm considers old white people and unions to be yesterday's coalition. They know they are 5 years away from an unbreakable demographic majority of illegal aliens and their spawn, gays, and various victim constituencies. Campaigns will be fueled by green tech contract grifters and the outfit.
1/19/2011 06:53:00 PM
do they really think that they can get blood out of a turnip?
Bella is done.
1/19/2011 05:49:00 PM
so why is he still in the oven?
"Rahm considers old white people and unions to be yesterday's coalition. They know they are 5 years away from an unbreakable demographic majority of illegal aliens and their spawn, gays, and various victim constituencies. Campaigns will be fueled by green tech contract grifters and the outfit."
--1/19/2011 06:53:00 PM
COMMENT OF THE DAY!
WHAMMO!
BOY, did you hit it right on the head. The old white people are being squeezed dry of their last 1950's-prosperity dollar by property tax increases, "refinancing" scams, and Medicare fraud, and the manufacturing behemoth that made the labor unions a force to be reckoned with is gone.
"Green tech contract grifters" -- trees planted on every freaking roof in the city by the Me And My Brother From Poland Roof Tree Company, using 100% illegal labor, of course...
"Things fall apart, the centre cannot hold; mere anarchy is loosed upon the world." -- Yeats
Bad news.
1/19/2011 05:46:00 PM
ya gotta give 'em credit, the communists had a solution to this problem.
Keep voting Dumbocrat Chicago!
1/19/2011 03:46:00 PM
so, who's the Republican running for mayor?
Vote for Carol!
1/19/2011 03:28:00 PM
and rahmbo will thank you later.
Why vote? In some wards the alderman's hacks are voting for their residents behind their backs.
1/19/2011 03:25:00 PM
who, what, where, when, how.
when you put it together, make the arrest.
o/t
thank you to our 008 who were at my home. major hugs for all of you.
This elections id turning into the Daley camp vs The Burke came. Same difference!
1/19/2011 01:07:00 PM
the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
this does not hold true for enemas.
There should be no endorsements by our union, period. We should not be beholding to politicians nor they to us.
1/19/2011 01:06:00 PM
an insane idealist or just a nitwit?
you decide.
If this is true that only 23 percent of department is registered to vote, then I assume its got to be this new breed. Didn't your parents force you to register once you hit 18? Thats how most of us were raised.
Anonymous said...
Look, I'm a civilian and I'm afraid I can't afford high pensions for you guys because I myself have no job and no pension. Where do you think money comes from, we can just get it by raiding the bags of gold in Scrooge McDuck's basement? It's time for everybody to get real.
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Well if you are going to change the rules. Then get ready for Detroit II. I have guns. do you?
Chico may of had my vote before but because of the fop endorsement I am going to rethink that. The pension system is fucked anyway. Its time for change in the fop. Then maybe I will take them seriously.
1/19/2011 11:47:00 AM
be careful not to overheat your noggin.
AND HE SLICED OFF PART OF HIS FINGER! D'oh!
1/19/2011 11:52:00 AM
uh, that happened during a fishing accident; he was trolling for quail.
Go enjoy your free cheap beer and crappy pizza. The winds of change are coming. Feel it?
1/19/2011 10:48:00 AM
Sorry, Mr. Fancy Pants. We all don't have your pink tie wearin - Market eatin fine tastes.
If you went ot FOP meetings you would know that they have been trying to register people.
I am not referring to doing it at the fop hall.. did you miss my comment to go out to the districts... yes it's going above and beyond... but the cause is worth the work...
Wake up and see what they are doing over there on Washington St. guys and girls. We have been sold out...AGAIN. It's time for a house cleaning. My vote and the vote of everyone I talk to is going to SHIELDS. Its gonna be good riddance to bad rubbish come 04 March 2011.
1/19/2011 07:16:00 PM
Seriously, how can you claim a sell out when we won't have any health care increases for 8 full years. We are the only union in the country that can make that claim. Every election cycle is the same.....opposition group calls FOP sellouts and says they're in bed with Daley. DOES IT EVER GET OLD?
Enron style is exactly correct! Our nation was ripped off by thieves at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Our corrupt congressional and senate politicians created a climate wherein a national housing racket was created and gypsies, tramps and thieves from everywhere came out of the woodwork and ripped the housing market apart. We will be paying for it for years to come. And I know of only one Mayoral candiate who attended about 9 meetings while on a GSE board and earned hundreds of thousands of dollars for virtually doing NOTHING. I hope more of my fellow citizens will reject this arrogant prick Emanuel, the race baiting little troll and pick Chico too. Of course I am pissing up a rope and the idiot voters in this state, county and of course in this case, the city will continue to select the LEAST qualified candidate among the field.
Ok, this is for all you econ nerds. If you understand this, you will sh!t yourself....
Post Revolution, Tunisia CDS Still About 100 bps Tighter Than Illinois
Despite the country's recent presidential coup, and subsequent downgrade by Moodys to Baa2, the African nation's CDS, which spiked from 120 to 180 bps, is still just 100 basis points inside the CDS of Illinois.
I believe Chico is an excellent choice and that Emanuel is a disastrous one.
However, I'm also sure that Chico will be forced to make very nasty choices that will not please the police rank-and-file, or any other city employee. He will be forced to make cuts in public service employee salaries and benefits whether he wants to or not, just so this city can continue to run.
The fact is, is that this country as a whole is comprehensively, completely, totally bankrupt and that public and private pensions alike are steeply underfunded, and there are massively more claims against whatever money still really exists that can possibly be satisfied in the next 100 years.
Do you hear what I am saying? What I'm saying is that public servants will have to accept not just "stagnating" wages and pensions that don't cover, but will probably have to accept rollbacks in wages and reductions in pension benefits.
Why? Because the people who pay for it all, those of us who work in the unsubsidized private sector, are being systemically DESTROYED. While the wages of rank-and-file public servants have "stagnated", the wages of private sector workers have dropped and are continuing to drop, as more jobs have disappeared- do not be gulled by the few hundred thousand jobs added, for they don't begin to offset the 7 million lost. We in the private sector have had our hours and pay cut, watched our benefits be canceled, and count ourselves lucky to be employed. People with advanced degrees and managerial resumes who once made 6 digits are settling for a third, or a quarter our former incomes just to stay employed.
I would rather give the police and fire fighters raises than give them to anyone, but we can't afford to give ANYONE a hike. We'd like to roll back the salaries of high ranking officials steeply instead.
Absolutely everyone is suffering as the economy continues to de-leverage and reset to a much lower level. This is happening whether we want it to or not. We're all getting crushed- nobody will keep what he or she has now... except for the $40 M Bonus Babies at the bans who both the Democrats and Republicans obey.
I'm sorry, really I am. I wish things were different.
Reading this blog it seems that most everyone is against Rahm. This is fine, but in order to do something about it you must get out and vote.
For as long as anyone can remember, the politicians have not cared about the Police Department votes because they knew that not many officers came out on election days and their votes could not sway an election one way or another.
Things might be different now IF officers and their families and friends were to pull together and vote against this guy and for ONE other candidate.
I don't know how many votes constitute a bloc, but if you are serious and care about the ensuing years, you had better do something. If not, just keep bitching.
God bless and good luck.
Anonymous said...
Lol...alderman dixon suing cpd over her dui last jan. 21. Can we sue her
1/19/2011 05:11:00 PM
What a racist, hater, pooch, piece of dirt!
1/19/2011 06:53:00 PM
We like how you think... That is not beyond the realm of possibility.
Chicago politics has been the impetus behind more strange bedfellows, political matings and the resulting ugly spawn currently run amok.
Chicago politics is the piss & santorum stained, tic, flea, chigger and roach ridden mattress with cigarette burns and recycled condoms in the basement of an abandoned Gladys Av. 2-flat.
Elected officialdom and their supporters smile for the cameras and try very hard not to scratch the bad itches in bad places...
None of them are innocent.
We reserve the right to be wrong! :)
We could be one or a collective voice trying to shed light and provoke meaningful thought/dialog regarding the current state of things.
Again... We like how you think.
Nearly as sinister, cynical and malicious as our own thoughts.
Pea soup green '85 Chevy with one white wall tire, one headlight out, 4 different wheel covers for $5.00 from Maxwell St., clear plastic over the back window to simulate a break-out and a for sale sign in the window "$1100.00 Or best Offer."
"Y'all ain't no Po-leece!"
I just love it, when talking about fellow police officers regarding our collective pension worries a real asshole starts with, " To all you asshats".
You sir are a jagoff,(9:17pm) you are what has changed with this Department, you are the true asshat! Un fucking real
Yes let's listen to the genius do nothings from the fop. Change is necessary. Chico may of had my vote before but because of the fop endorsement I am going to rethink that. The pension system is fucked anyway. Its time for change in the fop. Then maybe I will take them seriously.
1/19/2011 11:47:00 AM
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Seriously, your vote actually hinges on who does or doesn't endorse the guy?
Be an adult and choose for yourself.
I'm voting Chico because I've weighed the options and he's the choice I know I can live with. I don't care WHO does or doesn't endorse him and that's saying a lot, because I truly DETEST Luis Gutierrez (who endorsed him).
Put your grown-up pants on and vote for the candidate YOU think deserves your vote.
It was Megan Whelehan Curry
ET. who made a stink about the unit identifiers, she didn't want them on the ballots. What a joke!!!
1/19/2011 07:22:00 PM
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She's also an attorney. What was her rationale for no identifiers? Makes no sense to me.
Anonymous said...
Look, I'm a civilian and I'm afraid I can't afford high pensions for you guys because I myself have no job and no pension. Where do you think money comes from, we can just get it by raiding the bags of gold in Scrooge McDuck's basement? It's time for everybody to get real.
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Well if you are going to change the rules. Then get ready for Detroit II. I have guns. do you?
1/19/2011 10:21:00 PM
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Yeah, and also, WE HAVE BEEN PAYING for our own pensions, WE HAVE a JOB, WE have been WORKING TO SERVE THE PUBLIC, the THIEVES in office have done everything to STEAL OUR PENSIONS from us, and what is left, well I can tell you I don't want it to be going ANYWHERE BUT TO A PENSION CHECK for someone who has WORKED and PAID into the pension. WE fulfilled OUR part of the bargain.
Another thing, OUR police pension DOES NOT ALLOW for padding or using overtime to make it bigger, we are only given a pension on our BASE SALARY, not like the teachers, we also have to work 30 years to get the full percentage, unlike your elected officials who are ... well, enough of this rant...
SAVE OUR PENSION
I saw Donahue say that Emanuel got the most votes. But since He wants to play with the pension ( not his exact words but what he meant) They were endorsing Chico
Id have to agree with them
Hey. No denying it. Gery Chico is a Machine guy, made his bones in the Hall.
But...but...Emanuel? Creature from another planet.
The man makes my skin crawl.
{shudder}
The entire point about the units was not to hinder transparency. The point was to put all the "past practices" on paper. You want to require an is or Fop # to vote? Ok, put it in the rules.
You want to list candidates' names AND units of assignment, fine. Put it on paper.
"Box Chevy Phantom" (11:12 PM)
You owe me three dry new keyboards, you crazy (yet truthful) sonofabitch. I just drenched my latest keyboard with an Absolut vodka citron martini with a twist. Methinks I'll revert to a superb 18-year-old single malt scotch.
s/YOUR BIGGEST FAN ;-D
Didja ever think that the "powers that be" would want everyone to move out of Chicago just to leave room for special others? I'm talking about the water rights. Lake Michigan. Ok, I said it. Water is the most precious and valuable jewel on earth!
"Rahm considers old white people...to be yesterday's coalition...."
--1/19/2011 06:53:00 PM
...not that he was shy about hitting the Norwood/Edison "Bungalow Belt" and getting them wheeling their oxygen tanks out onto the tiny front porch to give out hugs and coffee mugs and refrigerator stickers and admire their VFW caps and pretend to listen to querulous concerns about Social Security and gas bills and property taxes when he was running for Congress.
He know it wouldn't be for much longer...
The bastard.
Look at those eyes. What does he do at night? Play poker and smoke cigars and drink Scotch with Satan until sunup?
People with advanced degrees and managerial resumes who once made 6 digits are settling for a third, or a quarter our former incomes just to stay employed.
1/19/2011 10:52:00 PM
So thats the REAL issue here. You see its not the pensions at all. The PRIVATE/CORPORATE sector is what destroyed the economy. The big banks,the bogus loan writing to make more money in commission, WALL STREET, the CEO's getting HUGE bonuses and got greedier. ALL the people making your 6+ figures, well it blew up in their face. Guess what? the MAJORITY of police, fire, teachers etc. DON'T make 6+ figures but have a steady/secure job and have a pension that now EVERYBODY thinks we shouldn't get because the people making the BIG BUCKS lost money/jobs. Why weren't you complaining about public pensions when you were making your 6+figure, while looking down on us bottom feeders on a city wage??? Guess what? While you were sipping on martinis and coctails at lunch time making your 6+ figure job, planning for your next meeting, the police officers were getting shot at, firefighters were running into burning buildings, Garbage men were collectiing your garbage and CPS teachers were getting motherfucked by students in the classroom making half of what you probably made. Get the fuck outta here with the "I can't afford your pension". I pay taxes too, does that mean I pay my own salary and pension along with it? Now people are jealous because we have secure jobs with somewhat of a pension??? But before we were peons(sp)on a city wage not making the corporate big bucks???? While its a sad story about what happened to people that probably looked down at us because we weren't as important on a city wage, don't take it out on us bottom feeders making half of what you made now because we have a pension...Now you have to settle with a job making probably what we have been making along?????....Too bad
However the illegals are our downfall.......... believe it or not!
1/19/2011 04:28:00 PM
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NOT ! Yes it's true that illegals come here and suck up services, but the truth is that most of them are willing to work and do so even if it's back breaking labor or meaningless work. At least they contribute something to our economy.
The real problem is all the Shithead citizens that want to spend generations on welfare and are to fucking lazy to find any type of work.
They would prefer to sell dope and get everything for free. I would bet they burn more of our tax dollars than anyone !
Just Me said...
Every member of the Chicago FOP should be raving mad! Why does the FOP spend thousands of "our" dollars to conduct a bogus election. We were sent ballots for our input for the endorsement of a mayoral candidate. When pressed for the breakdown of the results of the election, MP of FOP said Rahm Emanuel came in first place, Gary Chico second, Carol Mosely Braun, third, and DeValle in fourth place. So why put on a front? FOP is lying to you. You may not like the results of the election, but at least have some integrity and not be decietful to the membership. Its our money you're wasting.
1/19/2011 07:52:00 PM
Go vote for Rahm Emmanuel then and watch Rahm cut your pension. If you appreciate true honesty of course, go ahead, take a pension cut for the team but moan and bitch about the expense of an FOP mailing.
I love the priorities of some coppers. Personally, I don't want to take a pension hit, being so close to getting one myself.
I am voting for GERY CHICO.
If he lies, we will call him on it and deal with the lies. But how in earth can we, police, possibly endorse someone who states flat out he wants all our pensions reduced?
Re: Illegals Are "Our" Downfall
Couldn't the same be said for politicians too?
Re: Chico's Evening Shift
I can't, because too many thugs are roaming downtown. Instead, I'll watch the Benny Hill and Three Stooges' Marathons.
Re: Lesser Of Two Evils
The lesser of two evils is still evil!
iam retired my vote is for rahm so we can get rid of ed burke and his security guards
Anonymous said...
Look, I'm a civilian and I'm afraid I can't afford high pensions for you guys because I myself have no job and no pension. Where do you think money comes from, we can just get it by raiding the bags of gold in Scrooge McDuck's basement? It's time for everybody to get real.
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Well if you are going to change the rules. Then get ready for Detroit II. I have guns. do you?
1/19/2011 10:21:00 PM
Hey, Mr Civillian....here is a clue
WE HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR OUR OWN PENSIONS.
It is just that the idiots in city hall, who have to match our input, have been squandering OUR money away with "investments" to friends and family.
The media make it seem as if it is a gift that should be taken away. Lets see,....... what if you kept investing in your bank account (savings) and the bank then said that they could no longer pay you because the money will just not be there due to bad investments.
Wouldn't you be a little pissed off?
Guess what...we are. It's our money.
The entire point about the units was not to hinder transparency. The point was to put all the "past practices" on paper. You want to require an is or Fop # to vote? Ok, put it in the rules.
You want to list candidates' names AND units of assignment, fine. Put it on paper.
1/19/2011 11:43:00 PM
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REALLY!! Do you Really think we're going to fall for that Lie?
You must think working coppers are dumb! Remember the working copper can tell when the bad guys are full of $#@T.
I call this excuse a HUGE PILE OF BS!!!
I heard Markie D. is campaigning for Greg Bella now, really? The SS FLOP is sinking fast! All the rats are scurrying! These rats don't want to give up the power or is it the pizza? For some of FLOP it's the pizza!
Why is it that when someone challenges FLOP; they fall-back on arguing "past practice." Did we all forget what "past practice" has done for us in contract negotiations and grievances? I'll tell you - absolutely nothing!
Can someone at FLOP explain why FLOP hired Arbitrator Edwin Benn to oversee the FOP election? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the guy that screwed us with a 10% raise and FLOP welcomes this douche into our home with open arms! Nothing here, move along, yea right!
I was undecided on the FOP election until I heard this, but Mike Shields you have my vote! Ken Hauser enjoy the last of your free lunches and prime parking at Wrigley, you're next to be voted out of office.
Been voting since 1973 and haven't missed a single election in over 30 years. I know who the President is, the Vice President, both US Senators, my useless ass congressman, my State Rep, my State Senator and my Alderman. Hell, I even know most of the names for the County Board. Those of you that have jobs and don't know your elected reps, shame on you and if you don't get off your lazy ass and vote on election day, two shames on you. These bastards are doing work that we should be watching over and our vote is the only approval we get for what they do. Your vote is important, go to the polls on election day.
I vote to unemploy most of the incumbents.
Anonymous said...
The entire point about the units was not to hinder transparency. The point was to put all the "past practices" on paper. You want to require an is or Fop # to vote? Ok, put it in the rules.
You want to list candidates' names AND units of assignment, fine. Put it on paper.
1/19/2011 11:43:00 PM
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REALLY!! Do you Really think we're going to fall for that Lie?
You must think working coppers are dumb! Remember the working copper can tell when the bad guys are full of $#@T.
I call this excuse a HUGE PILE OF BS!!!
1/20/2011 06:22:00 AM
I recall when there was a Burke or Murphy or such on the ballot and people wondered who the hell is that?
We screamed to have the Units put alongside their names so we could narrow it down who the hell they were.
No way will I agree to have the unit number taken off and I will vote for Shields. We old guys fought to get it on and that is where it is staying, Unit numbers, right next to candidates name on the ballot.
Here's a fact. If the city would have been fully funding the pension all along, then we wouldn't have the pension crisis that we have now. The city chose not to fund our pensions. We can not let them continue to make us and the other city unions look like greedy bastards.
1/19/2011 09:50:00 AM
Here's another fact: the FLOP hasn't been doing it's job as our pension rights advocate FOR DECADES.
Buh bye Marky Mark D + Turd VP.
Time for a change.
The last I olliked at Chico's comments, he said that he would keep an open mind about employee pensions reforms, he did not say that he would not sponsor cuts to current employee benefits. And, for those who still are saying that the pensions can be saved if the city pays their share, that is not what the actuaries are saying. In fact, they have been saying for years, that the current formula of 2-1 by the city was never enough to fund the pensions, that it was a flawed policy. So even if the city fully paid their share, the pensions would still be in trouble. They are not sustainable as is and will run out of money in 10-12 years unless drastic changes are made. Denying this will not make it go away. Contibutions will have to be raised on both sides and the retirement age raised. There are many cites and states in the same boat. Prepare to work a few more years and pay a few more dollars each month. The city cannot raise enough in taxes to save the funds.
Didja ever think that the "powers that be" would want everyone to move out of Chicago just to leave room for special others? I'm talking about the water rights. Lake Michigan. Ok, I said it. Water is the most precious and valuable jewel on earth!
1/20/2011 12:03:00 AM
Amen brother..........that is why property in Chicago will always be valuable!
Fire Dept was also supposed to endorse Chico by now. Ryan and Fabrizio are really on the hot seat to change their minds. Huge pressure.
Speaking of politics, here's a good one - FOP has an election meeting last night. One of the Team Shields Legal Beagles made a big argument to keep unit identifiers OFF THE BALLOT. The SHIelds team does not want voters to know that two of his guys (McCarthy and Collins)work in the Superintendent's office. What a joke.
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This is true ask anyone that attended the meeting members of the Shields team did not want any unit designators after their names on the ballots. Reason unknown however, perhaps they are trying to hide something, what should it matter ask the Shields team that question.
Liar.
Half or more of the Shields Team stood to keep the unit designator on there. I was right there standing with them. It has been there for years and is the easiest way to identify one goddamn Murphy from the next 6.
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No you are the liar, the female who addressed the issue alleged attorney, challenged it and consulted with Shields himself however lost her challenge to remove the designators.
1/20/2011 01:20:00 AM
BING-MUTHAFUCKIN'-GO!
Everybody read THIS response!
Re: Lesser Of Two Evils
The lesser of two evils is still evil!
1/20/2011 05:41:00 AM
so, you've met both my wife and my mistress.
I'm a suburban officer, who resides in Chicago. After reading this article Chico gets my vote. We are all in the same boat, no matter where we work. I wonder how many other suburban officers that reside in Chicago will vote and show Rahm Emanuel, he miscalculated the number officers(CPD and suburban) he pissed off.
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