What the Hell?
From the comments section:
- THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT! ! !
As of right now Beat 1614 is in 011. . THERE IS NO COVERAGE ON 1614s beat!! CALL YOUR ALDERMAN FIRST THING MONDAY!!!!
(edited for space - knock it off please - SCC)
BEAT Cars are there from 016 017 019 020 024
So on 13 November 2005, these five districts are down at least a car. And we are SURE it's not the first time. What the hell people? We'll bet dollars to donuts that (A) this isn't done by seniority OR volunteers everywhere and (B) this has been happening quite a bit lately as evidenced by the robbery and burglary numbers. We've said it before - criminals aren't stupid, (aside from being criminals that is); they don't want to go to jail, so they go where the police aren't. You think they don't notice a shortage of police?
Write your aldercreature. Squeaky wheels and all that. Can anyone verify this is going on in other "lower crime" or "police residential" districts? Specifically southside? 008? 021? Others? Have they shorted Central Control Group (001/018) and the Yuppie Bar areas to cover the West Side? Info people - WE NEED INFO.
Maybe someone ought to call Kass and Brown. Frank and Fran don't seem to be reading us lately. If we can get them involved, maybe our hit count will go up some more!
Write your aldercreature. Squeaky wheels and all that. Can anyone verify this is going on in other "lower crime" or "police residential" districts? Specifically southside? 008? 021? Others? Have they shorted Central Control Group (001/018) and the Yuppie Bar areas to cover the West Side? Info people - WE NEED INFO.
Maybe someone ought to call Kass and Brown. Frank and Fran don't seem to be reading us lately. If we can get them involved, maybe our hit count will go up some more!
posted by SCC at 4:20 AM
100 Comments:
What is FOP doing about it?
It's Supt. Kline's way of lowering the homicide rate in the busy districts and it's apparently working, but at what price. The crime rate for serious crimes is up in these slow districts because their manpower is sent to the busy districts, leaving us off duty guys and our families protected by the 200lb bimbo beat cop, no matter what bald baby kline tells us at Dugan's. The real tax payers thank you Phill.
He shorts all the cops and cityworkers on 811 on a regular basis as well.
Todays suntimes
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-bmcmain13.html
Whats next? Their nieghborhoods are destroyed and now its the white persons fault. Im sick of this. You want to be looked at normally. Then get your race to live/act normally. Why do we have to have triple the Police Coverage in the black nieghborhoods?
An unknown source from payroll related, on the 1st and 16th they cut about 8,500-9,000 checks for the CPD payroll. However, the city says we have approx. 13,500 employed in the CPD. Rumor?
An unknown source from payroll related, on the 1st and 16th they cut about 8,500-9,000 checks for the CPD payroll. However, the city says we have approx. 13,500 employed in the CPD. Rumor?
An unknown source from payroll related, on the 1st and 16th they cut about 8,500-9,000 checks for the CPD payroll. However, the city says we have approx. 13,500 employed in the CPD. Rumor?
In terms of sworn personnel, the CPD is now the THIRD largest city PD in the USA. NYPD and now the LAPD are larger.
Landscaping, tree planting, wrought iron fences and FRAUD have taken it toll on the budget of the City of Chicago.
I live on 811's beat and I NEVER EVER see the beat car. I went jogging at Wentworth Park (5600 S Narragansett) and had a gun pulled on me by a gang banger. I called the police and it took 45 mins to get a car. The brass of this Department doesn’t care about theses areas (where cops live). However, the non-paying taxpayer that constantly sues the city gets a car on every block. Phill if your reading this, A lot of people are upset and all you do is credit are the units that you created.
I am seriously thinking about calling the news media. But will that even help?
I am seriously thinking about calling the news media. But will that even help?
11/13/2005 08:56:06 AM
Not to sound like a jerk, but do you really think the media gives a crap about white police officers not having service in their neighborhood? Not a chance!!! Unless we are actually doing something wrong, the media ignores us.
Now, short the black neighborhoods, and there's a story!
Guys in Edison/Norwood/Oriole Parks, Edgdebrook areas: Call your respective Aldermans office.
Or just got to the Emerald Isle or Nicks Pub any night of the week and catch Ald. Dougherty before his 28th drink of the night. Sure, he'll probably take a swing at you, like he usually does, or stare at you blindly before puking on his shoes again, but damnit, he's THERE FOR US!
To: 901 AM
I wrote the previous post before yours. I agree to your statement, very true statement
Phill knew the scc would catch up to him eventually - playing slight of hand with the beat cars. That's why he started up the new special employment on Fri/Sat. Fine by me. If u want them there- PAY!!!
Manpower shortage because 50-60 guys are there but detailed out-PAY!!! TRU/SOS/AREA SAT TEAMS/CLOSED MARKET/NARCOTICS/GANG INTEL-still not enough to police 011-PAY!!!
Never have I witness so many "CRY BABIES" just do your job....one beat car out of a district is not going to cause the crime index to go crazy....if that was a fact, with so many coppers on the 2nd watch attending court, your entire districts would turn into a war zone...the only thing that's going to happen is 35th st will make this some sort of detail and the cry babies in 16th dst will no longer be able to do their tour of duties from their HOUSE
also sounds like some real chicken littles who are afraid to tread were the REAL POLICE must go
if you're so afraid that your neighborhood is going to be taken over by the criminal element at night, quit your JOB, sit up in your kitchen with your shotgun all night...THE CPD can use that slot to hire REAL MEN/WOMEN.....then ask yourself how many people were taken out of patrol to fill all of these super secret politically connected units...
I think Phil is getting away with straight time on that new special employment- just like riding the bus. I read the order is does not say time and a half!!!!
11/13/2005 09:40:18 AM
Never have I witness so many "CRY BABIES" just do your job....one beat car out of a district is not going to cause the crime index to go crazy.
It's not about doing our job. It's being forced to do our job with considerabley less manpower than is budgeted because the mayor needs to save money and the department needs to fill holes in other units. There are never any openings in these district's but every one will tell you they are running at least 30 to 40 short. If a guy needs the day off, the w/c has to down a car. That's not fair to the people that live in the neighborhoods that lose their beat car. Now, the department finds yet another way to fill the holes. it's not safe for the other policemen out there and it's not safe for the residents. It has to give somewhere. You can't keep robbing Peter to pay Paul. I don't blame Phil. He has to work with what he has. I'm sure he would have no objection to bringing staffing up to budgeted strength. I would like to see an ACCURATE count of our manpower vs. what is budgeted. Dick 'aint laying us off, but he 'aint replacing the ones as they go neither.
This is Osama Bin Drinken from the West Side. I done hope alls you cops go backs to your own districts. I got a livin to makes around here. Done too many popo out heres to do mys dealing.
Phil Cline is just Rich Daley in a fat suit! Why do they take police out of the white neighborhoods? I guess its the same reason that we have to pay for our sidewalks. Its our punishment for living like civilized human beings.
Time due is being denied in the other districts to allow beat cars to go to 011 while 011 is downing primary beat cars to give time due to their people.
Yup. Want almost guaranteed time due? Bid to the 011th District.
In regard to the Sun-times article....Perhaps its due in part to the fact that blacks tend to live beyond their means and buy expensive "toys", like high end autos which rapidly depreciate in value. I also love how this article intones that "the Man" is somehow holding down prices (by some magical mechanism)in black neighborhoods. They also fail to point out that crime is higher even in the best of black neighborhoods. When any racial group (other than whites) want to live together they are preserving their culture, when we do it, its a sin in the 3rd. degree. How about a colunm praising the residents of Portage park for keeping the neighborhood a clean, safe place to live.
i WOULD LOVE TO BID TO 011, DAMN RECRUITS OVERWHELMED ALL THE TRAINING DISTRICTS, CAN'T GET THERE. The only openings are in non training distrixcts.
What is the % of police per person in the city. Then do this look into each district see how many people live there and see how many cops work there. You will be shocked. I want in my district what I pay for POLICE SERVICE
HUH
I heard a rumor that Phil and some other connected people own vacant land in 011 and they are just holding on to it until the riff-raff is driven out. Anyone know how to check that out?
If so, what a great expose' that would make by Pam Zekman...."West side areas receive more police presence to protect the Superintendent's real estate interest. Story at 10."
I agree with the posters who are pissed about the cars being taken out of the district. It's not about them not wanting to "Do their job." It's matter of "Hey, asshole, I pay taxes, keep my property nice and want to keep my neighborhood safe."
I'm black and I live north because I choose to and I worked my ass off to to be able to afford something nice in a decent, safe neighborhood.
There's not enough money in the world to get me to live in 014, 015, 025, or any other place where my lazy, heathen, bretheren live. And now, I get shorted because I choose to live in a nice neighborhood? That's bullshit!
If the average citizen knew what was going on, they'd have a cow.
Historically, we just don't take care of our property. Too busy frontin', mackin', and polishing our rides to give 2 shits about how the house looks.
Hell, I grew up in an all white neighborhood. Every Saturday, my dad had a list of chores for us to do around the house....cut the grass, rake the leaves, pull the weeds, clean the windows, sweep the walks, etc. I hated it. But you know what? Now that I own my own house, I like to keep my property looking good!
So come on, all you who are gonna call me traitor to my race.....bite me! I want my police back! Tell you neighbors to call the media and the aldermen. They don't listen to us, but you can bet your paycheck that they'll listen to their citizen voting base give
Hey, if they need more cars on midnights in busier districts why don't they use the resource that is available? Why not have SOS and TRU work from 2000 to 0430 on the weekends? Rumor is that the department has adusted their hours, but if you work like I do on the West side you will never see them. Bosses have to hold these units accountable. Why not have SOS and TRU assigned to the district where we need manpower, with the officers attending roll call and checkoff with the district officers? Exempts need to start riding around after 0100 and see where "their cars" are.
Please, those guys are gone by 2300. I saw one TRU or SOS guy in 011, whose hair was perfectly gelled, spiked and highlighted. I asked him if he ever wore his hat. He looked at me like I was crazy.
Another time, one of the "chosen ones" was bitching about getting out by 2300 because it was going to take him an hour to fix his hair! WTF?
They gotta get to Duggan's so they can regal all the hotties with their stories of darring-do.
Even better is the idea of the bosses working 1st watch on any weekend.
What would they do with their vacation homes? Give em to exes?
Klein probably does own land in 011 with "connected people", after all they are his patron saints.
11/13/2005 1:28 r u kidding me! u sound like a kid just making up shit so momma will wipe his ass for him. keep wearin your sweet baseball hat, and roll up them sleeves(gotta show off that forearm tattoo)
faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag
A number of bosses own land in 011 and other delapated areas of this city. A smart investment if you ax me.
SHOOTING IN 025 LAST NIGHT. GREAT CREW OF COPPERS ALL WAS TEXTBOOK.
Hats off to the job well done by the 25th District Officers in spite of their cowardly Lt.
Lt, Sgt and team were about to execute a search warrant when shots were fired nearby. The officers quickly responded to the shots fired and were fired upon; they returned fire and struck the offender in the legs. Offender in custody, gun recovered, job well done.
A quick head count to ensure everyone was alright revealed a missing Lt. After several attempts to raise him on the radio, he finally answered up 15 min. later.
Apparently he got into a foot chase that took him two blocks west of where his team was involved in a shoot out. Seems he also failed to call in the foot chase; probably couldn't get in with all the radio traffic.
Well done guys, hopefully his clout will realize he is in over his head and he is a liability to his men.
What was the soldier's name in Saving Private Ryan that was a coward? Anybody know, it may be a good nickname for Lt. Yellow belly.
Screw calling your alderman, call The tribune, Sun-Times, NBC, ABC, CBS, etc. Only way to correct it is to get the public pissed. Daley is up for re-election soon.
His name was Cpl. Upham.
"Final battle scene where Mellish (Adam Goldberg) is grappling with an enemy soldier in the upstairs room of a bombed-out French home. A knife is pushed slowly into Mellish's chest. Cpl. Upham stands on the staircase where shell shock and fear paralyzes him such that he cannot lift a finger to help."
Lt. Clark aka Lt. Yellow Belly or Lt. Upham.
What happens in the military when you abandon your men while under fire?
Just got a letter from Alderman Rugai-19th Ward. She sent it out because of a big spike in armed robberies in Mt. Greenwood and Beverly.
In the letter she states that she met with Cline who committed additional resources to 022 in that it will be made a training district so we can get more manpower. He also pledged that all watches will CONTINUE to operate at 100% capacity and that POs will not be pulled from 022 for any special Police operations.
Is she kidding-"CONTINUE 100%capacity"? No one pulled out? Who's bullshitting who? No district operates at 100%. Manpower in 022 is down over 20% in the last few years plus an additional 15+% detailed out. And it's the same in every district.
Ms Rugai-I think you got bullshitted.
there are a great number of fantastic coppers that work in 025 and I am proud to have worked there for the past 14 years and will continue to work there.
TRU already works 7-3 on the weekends, and they stay, as always and everywhere, someone takes time etc; SOS works late hours also and they work 8 1/2 hours in case an HBT comes up etc. so they are already out there.......
Can someone decipher that last one?
can anyone say "Dip Shit"
Anonymous said...
Please, those guys are gone by 2300. I saw one TRU or SOS guy in 011, whose hair was perfectly gelled, spiked and highlighted. I asked him if he ever wore his hat. He looked at me like I was crazy.
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Are you talking about Carl Suchocki?
He has his own version of the CPD baseball hat - had it made into a visor so that his hair won't get mussed up!
Regarding the manpower in 022, last week on midnights, out of the 9 beat cars, 5 were 1-man...SAFETY ISSUE??!!!
SOS..... most guns recovered, most search warrants executed and most overtime earned citywide. Hours adjusted all the time and we stay until 0330 on weekends. Get your facts straight or go to a Staff meeting at 35th & Michigan on Fri, and listen to the numbers put up by SOS and then shut-up and do your job! Whining Bitches!!! Tell Suchocki to his face you Coward....typical.
Does anybody think that the idiot bosses at those Friday meetings have a real concept about police work. They are all there to "glad-hand" each other and lie about statisics
It's all somke and mirrors
Defalt the public!
and keep raising their/our taxes!
what sucks is we know the numbers are all bullshit!
You will not see the Dept. put S.O.S in 16,022,westend 008!
It would raise the index, and show there is infact crime there! it would happen! No police service for the working stiff!
P.O. Suchocki from SOS equals bet-off! Not knocking SOS, cause Jake Blakes teams take care of business.
Fuckhead Suchocki got most those bullshits medals he wears from his mothers connections, the bitch works at FOP!
The skinny little fuck his no super hero.
you mean BEAT-OFF! because that is what he is.................
you see him lately looks like he is in need of some JUICE.
SOS..... most guns recovered, most search warrants executed and most overtime earned citywide. Hours adjusted all the time and we stay until 0330 on weekends. Get your facts straight or go to a Staff meeting at 35th & Michigan on Fri, and listen to the numbers put up by SOS and then shut-up and do your job! Whining Bitches!!! Tell Suchocki to his face you Coward....typical.
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...and all the King's horses, and all the King's men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
Thanks for trying to save Humpty with your SPECIAL police powers. How about kickin'a$$ in 022 or 016 once in a while? Or is it really all about stats, honorables, and dept. comendations for you SOS guys?
Officers that work 1st watch on the West side will not see TRU or SOS on the weekends. They maybe assinged to our area, and they maybe on the A&As until 0330, but they are not on the street. Oh, thats right, they are processing that one bag dope pinch. If you are a supervisor in these units is that what we want these "crimefighters" doing? Bosses, I challenge you...go to 10,11,15 or 25 on the weekend at 0130 hrs., and you will find the district coppers out there, you will not find your chosen ones.
Go put on your black hoodies and watch caps you BEAT OFFS! What a joke! You get to eat lunch where you want.....BFD... so can any dit. tact guy. All you low self esteem tools drive an extra hour to work, just to stroke your fragile egos.
As of right now Beat 1614 is in 011. . THERE IS NO COVERAGE ON 1614s beat!! CALL YOUR ALDERMAN FIRST THING MONDAY!!!!
(edited for space - knock it off please - SCC)
BEAT Cars are there from 016 017 019 020 024
HEY SCC... WHAT DO YOU MEAN (edited for space - knock it off please - SCC)???
Trying to hide something?
Let the outing of humpty dumpty and bald baby kline begin.
yeah right, I bet you can't name 10 coppers in 025 that you can trust. I know who they are, and they were all working last night on that shooting, i heard.
you forgot one thing about sos besides the guns recovered dope and etc. most home invasions committed per area. Way to go then leave the district coppers, sgts there to clean up your mess.
TO 11:32;Just another example of blind racisim on some peoples part. If you had bothered to read the WHOLE article,what they were doing was showing the similarities between Portage Park & Avalon.The only differences were that Portage was majority white while Avalon is majority black.Also,Avalon had a lower crime rate than Portage yet they had higher property values.This type of financial aprthied is something we as black people have always had to deal with living in Chicago.Now having said that,none of that is your fault or the fault of any other white person who owns a home in this city.I would be the first one to agree with you that fot the amount of taxes you pay on your OVERVALUED home,you should be able to get the same prompt,curteous service the "mules" get on the west & south sides.
As a supervisor in 011 I see TRU and SOS in the district almost nightly and yes they are there late and it's not always one baggers, in the past week or so SOS has come in with alot of guns, yes a lot of H.I'S to go with and beefs but so what, one less gun to hurt an officer or innocent civillan; TRU also bringing in some decent stuff as well so enough already, let's just stick together and go home safe.
Anonymous said...
Officers that work 1st watch on the West side will not see TRU or SOS on the weekends. They maybe assinged to our area, and they maybe on the A&As until 0330, but they are not on the street. Oh, thats right, they are processing that one bag dope pinch. If you are a supervisor in these units is that what we want these "crimefighters" doing? Bosses, I challenge you...go to 10,11,15 or 25 on the weekend at 0130 hrs., and you will find the district coppers out there, you will not find your chosen ones.
11/13/2005 08:57:26 PM
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All of you are a bunch of bitches! You complain when TRU is in your dist cause there are too many cars respond to your in-progesses, then you complain about about them not being around when YOU want them to be!
make a decision and stick with it!
I challenge you...go to 10,11,15 or 25 on the weekend at 0130 hrs., and you will find the district coppers out there, you will not find your chosen ones.
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Hey fag what about TRU guys that got shot in 010 at 0100 while backing up 010th dist officers on a t-stop
to 12:52
I didnt read the article BUT...
I would be VERY surprised if Portage Park had more crime than Avalon
Can you prove this? Or are you speculating?
If that is the case ,then moving to Avalon is a bargain.... Cheaper housing and better area.
Let me know how you arrived at this conclusion
I'll leave you an email address if you respond
SHOOTING IN 025 LAST NIGHT. GREAT CREW OF COPPERS ALL WAS TEXTBOOK.
Thank you to all involved, Your the best! It's to bad the shitbag did not see the event horizon. (015)
To 3:00; The statistics are in the sunday Sun-Times article on the "black middle class."Surprising though it may seem,not all demographic facts regarding African-Americans are negative.(no speculation.)
INCREASE MAN-POWER!~!!!
FUCK ALL THESE UNIT. GO BACK TO BASIC DISTRICT LAW ENFORCEMENT.
YOU DON'T NEED A UNIT TO DO THE JOB IF THE POLICE ARE OUT THERE IN THERE IN THE ASSIGNED DISTRICTS DOING WHAT THEY SHOULD!
011/015/025. BUSY. NO UNITS! JUST INCREASE THE MANPOWER. DON'T FUCK OVER THE OTHER DIST...
What you prpose makes too much sense.The city will never go for it."Do more with less"is the motto of the 21st century.
hey guys, all kidding aside, i put my app in awhile ago with SOS. i haven't heard anything yet....i've mastered the 1811 <2.5gram pinch along with DOPW....just learning the ropes on the gang loitering now. can anyone help me?? i've already got the black hoody with SOS logo on it. it's fucking super cool, like you guys. would it help if i dyed my hair??
signed,
two year wonder
Regarding S.O.S.....
I know a couple guys over there who are good coppers, do police work and won't chew your ear off with endless war stories. However, most of the people there truly need to get over themselves. I'm tired of seeing these guys walking around the stations, head held high, chest stuck out, wearing the "SOS" hoodies, and arms bent like they're carrying buckets of sand, acting like they know everything and their shit don't stink. Hell, most of the time they're walking around holding a handful of misdemeanor complaints. Who are you trying to impress? You're already in the unit of elite ass-kickers. Some of these guys should be ashamed of themselves.
O.k., o.k., they do get a lot of guns (i.e. mainly turn-ins), but not being tied down by the radio, having the freedom that they do, not displaying beat tags, name tags or badges, and causing all the nonsense nameless P.O. CR#s, they better come in with a lot of something. I would just think that it wouldn't be so much petty bullshit.
By the way, who's the M/2 that drives the tinted out Acura (?) with the chrome wheels....MAJOR KNOB.
TO:11/13/2005 10:17:49 PM
HEY SCC... WHAT DO YOU MEAN (edited for space - knock it off please - SCC)???
Trying to hide something?
Yeah, trying to hide your stupid ass getting his message board shut down. Try not to be so ignorant
The residents of Avalon Park weren't beefing when they chased Whitey out of there by paying him 10 cents on the dollar for his home. That article was filled with inaccuracies and written to support a predetermined opinion. Do you really think Edison Park is the only northside neighborhood more than 80% white? How about Edgebrook, Sauganash, Norwood Park, South Edgebrook, etc.? Gimme a break.
TRU and SOS are known by the ASAs at 26th as the :
NOLLE PROS BOYS
Learn the law and how to write before you get your monogramed sweats and star hanging chains.
12:39
I'm sure you are a legal expert Don't be a hater! you wish you were in a unit where you weren't tied to the radio. We are all on the same side. If you start fighting with some one and look up and see SOS or TRU coming to get your back I'm sure you won't be talking sh!t then.
SHOOTING IN 025 LAST NIGHT. GREAT CREW OF COPPERS ALL WAS TEXTBOOK.
Thank you to all involved, Your the best! It's to bad the shitbag did not see the event horizon. (015)
11/14/2005 03:11:07 AM
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. YOU LOOK AT THE NAMES OF THE COPPERS INVOLVED, YOU COULDN'T ASK FOR BETTER SUPPORT ON THE STREET. THE ENTIRE TEAM THAT WAS THERE, THE GANG AND TACT, AND THE BT. CAR ASSISTING ARE THE PICK OF THE LITTER IN 025. I WOULD NAME THEM ALL IF I KNEW SOMEONE WOULDN'T TRASH THEM FOR SOME SELFISH REASON.
I gotta agree with the posters who speak of when Police Officers were dispatching. I came on this job 20 yrs ago and was amazed how sharp our dispatchers for 009 were. They knew the area they were sending you into, knew the residents of the problem houses, police fighters etc., without all this computer stuff. They knew it from experience. These folks took PRIDE in their work! And they knew that on any given occasion, without warning, they could be our ONLY lifeline! If the city was interested in making a difference, they would give the dispatchers a job that wasn't as vital to the safety and welfare of us Officers. Give the dispatching jobs to Police Officers who have at least 20-25 yrs on the job and are looking to get out of the district for their last few years before retiring. The dispatchers rotated when we rotated, so there was some continuity. They would show up at our watch parties, BBQ's, Christmas parties and they knew you by the beat you worked. If we had to transport a prisoner to the old 001st district, we'd make a call to the zone and bring them lunch, coffee or whatever they needed. There was a mutual respect and camaraderie that is gone forever. We can't blame the current dispatchers-they were just looking for a job. But, they have no idea what it's like to be on the street in a hairy situation and you have only your partner and your dispatcher to help you. These dispatchers worked the streets, and know that any "routine" situation can go south in a hurry. I still think that one of Daley's biggest blunders was replacing the Police Officers dispatching with civilians. It's not all about the almighty dollar. Occasionally our safety should come into play. I apologize for the long post, but it's my #1 concern.
to: 01:09.....
1) you hit it right on the head: there is no comparison to having P.O.'s dispatching, as opposed to civilians, who, although well intentioned, have NO idea what in the hell is going on, including the geography of the district, the dynamics of patrol, etc.;
2) as a general statement, to hell with the homicide rate...
No one bitches when the city TRIPLE police coverage on RUSH STREET on the weekends, especially those hot summernights.......
Never mind......those are WHITE PEOPLE!
So come on, all you who are gonna call me traitor to my race.....bite me!
BITE ME! years I have worked in the BLACK Communities and never once have I ever HEARD a brother say "BITE ME! me think you are a faker
I've only been on this job 30 years and I'm amazed after reading a lot of this blog how we survived before the existance of TRU and Jump in / Jump out boys...
I think we used to call them patrol or beat coppers. I don't remember.
That was also before the cartoon logo on the squads. There used to be a CPD star not a lopsided comet.
Old yea, should retire yea, but it's too much fun laughing at the silly shit that goes on in this dept.
to 01:09, best post I've read in a long time. Those police dispatchers would also let you know what happened at a location recently when they sent you there. Also, just by your voice, they would know if you needed help. Met them at alot of occasions and they would call you by your beat, and recognized you just by voice. Bring back the police.
Police dispatchers were the best, hands down. I recall Harry Hewitt and Tom St. John on the old Zone 4 (010 & 011). A young copper would merely ask for an assist car. Those dispatchers sensed the urgency in the officer's voice and the dispatcher called a 10-1. They had paid their dues long before they transferred into Communications. Street savvy.
11/14/2005 1:33 your post is bullshit. What your refering to is the rush street detail, which is manned by 018 midnight P.O.'s. The only time the city sends outside resources to 018 is to work in cabrini green. Nobody is sending their tact/gang teams to work on rush & division to mind the white people.
Rush Street? a great place to be for the party people, but, if you want more cops there, then some more people should get killed there (because Cline cares only about shootings and murders); wherever that's happening is where the cops are sent (like an old DD saying, "if you don't die, you don't get NO service!). More importantly, 1) there aren't enough police on the CPD; 2) those that are employed are not being deployed properly, or INTELLIGENTLY (hello, exempt staff/the 5th floor/who's your guy?)
A fact concerning what they call redeployment The 16th district gang teams have been out of the district for over two years, working every nite in 14,15,or25. There has been no gang teams on days for two years. The day tact team recently has been sitting in uniform in the Ickes projects in 001. The district has 75 less officers picking furloughs this year then in 2003 There are no foot men any more. The district has seen ahuge increase in robberies, burglaries and auto thefts. Look around and all the shit that was forced out of 12,13,and14 by the yups now call the 16th district home. They get no young officers only four feet wide by four feet tall females who came there to hide on manangement spots If you live there you have a right to be angry What the district needs is working coppers to bid in they will be suprised how busy it is.
I say take the other teams out of 15 and 25. What the hell do you expect 016 and 017, and 014 to do when they are a bunch of useless bungholes. All they are when out of the easy element is useless, not to mention scared. Check out sometime, the 016th District team thinking they are all badasses. the coppertone tan guy with the roid muscles, or the twerp with the wany hair. they solve no problems and do not help any riding up and down wellington, belmont and diversey. they need FTO's to work in 25
Even the gang sgt has no clue in 16
Do you think I enjoy having to pay that much money to live in a decent place. This is not an example of financial aparthide, it is another example of your people screwing up things for everyone. You destroy every neighborhood that you move in to and drive the property values down. Do you realize that most of these horseshit southside and west side neighborhood used to be decent midle class whit areas. Whites are forced to pay insane amounts of $ to live in the few communities that you haven't destroyed. Unlike your middle class, our's insists on order and quiet and doesn't tolerate bullshit. I can't believe you people have taken over and destroyed all these beautiful areas and now you have the balls to complain that no one wants to pay top dollar to live among shit.
To all those arguing about bringing back the old zone bosses, I'll concede and dispute as follows:
When the OEC (now OEMC) opened towards the end of '95, there were more than 50 retired POs assigned as "cadre". Every single supervisor and watch commander was a retired sergeant or lieutenant. Dozens of police officers were assigned there. Some still are.
The police officers assigned there were not entirely all old white guys from the streets. In fact, there were some under 40, and dozens under 50.
Anyway, since 1995 there have been NUMEROUS incidents where a zone would erupt at a dispatcher... only to be told "guess what guys, that ain't no civilian y'all were just yelling at... thanks for playing!".
Don't get me wrong. There are plenty of civilians up there who are idiots, and I'm sure you hear them every day and every night. But there were plenty of idiots up there prior to the end of 1995. You'd be surprised at which politicians and who in the CPD made calls to get the worst of the worst hired. Or maybe you wouldn't be surprised.
I am in no way denigrating Nick or Stan or the great ones. Those guys could run circles around 95-100% of the civilians OR the police who ever worked a radio.
But the great ones were few and far between then, just as they are now.
The grass is greener on the other side mentality is sort of in the blood though. Hell, I'm not even saying that the grass WASN'T greener with some of those guys.
The fact is, its an insane job. People up there were and are constantly dropping dead without seeing 50. If you've been on for 20 years, you've heard the voices of several dozen now dead who would not yet today be 70. Probably a dozen who would not yet today be even 55. Maybe be careful what you wish on the veterans here.
I'm not blanket defending anyone, or blanket attacking anyone. Guess what I'm really saying is... back in the day there were 7 or 8 total who could handle the old zone 10 without having a nervous breakdown or starting a riot. That would be of 300 assigned to the unit. Same thing with zones 6, 8 or 12.
But don't think for one second that its something anybody can do, PO or not, street-wise or not. The great ones then were a different breed, but there is no way anybody is telling me that 1121 had 300 Stans in it. Not in 1995. Not in 1965. Not ever.
And its not like the job is the same anymore. With computers, its pretty hard to bring a bucket full of tickets home with you. And its not like the politicians running the department are making any efforts to reduce the call volume. So today you have fewer police in the districts (see the last 10,000 comments on this blog), increasing call volumes, and no real ability to make calls disappear. That ain't exactly a recipe for happiness, no matter who is dispatching.
Anyway, I miss some of the old "old" guys too. I hope those still alive are all doing well and kicking sand on a beach somewhere far away from this dirty city.
I'm sorry, I didn't catch that.
you guys make me laugh, you think just because you work in a ghetto district that makes you a bad ass.I've alot of pussies mother fuckers in 015,014,017,011,010,012,009,and you all think youre the shit because you work there.You are there because you have to.IF youre all the bad asses that you claim you are and have the time to bid into 016 come on over we can use the help, there are at least 3-4 openings now in 016 since its no longer a training district. So come on over and show us ow its done.Scared to work the ghetto,there are some of here that grew up in the ghetto and made out without a badge and gun tough guy.Since you guys bitch and complain about 016 coppers all the time you must know where 016 is located. Come to any of the three watches roll and call us chicken shit pussies to our faces, I'll bet you will find a couple who will invite to the second floor of the parking garage to see who's the real chicken shit.
To 6:43 Take off your white hood and open your eyes.I always find people like you amusing.Even when the facts are right under your nose you refuse to acknoledge them. The next fantasy you'll be ranting about is the holocoust never happened.There are plenty of clean,decent law abding communities that are African-American.There are also plenty that aren't.But like most people with your jaded mindset you prefer to concentrate on the negative.I'll bet you're one of those coppers that see a black person driving a Mercedes or Lexus and think they must be "selling drugs"or commiting some other type of illegal act to own that vehicle.I hear the stories all the time from my friends who are professionals.DWB (Driving While Black)I always tell my freinds that cops like you aren't the norm. Most white officers I've worked with were relatively fair and open minded people.Who treat all people with respect no matter WHO they are.If you don't like living in your overpriced home paying all those taxes,You can do what most of your kind do quit,leave Chicago,move to a all white suburb.Better yet move to Idaho or Montana with the rest of the white supremicists.But whatever you do,don't blame me or my people for your situation.I refuse to blame white people at large for any of mine.
I was just trying to point out the large number of police taken out of the 16th district where your average tax bill is over 4,000.00 dollars a year on a home
most of those gang guys have been away from that district for over two years which is longer than you probably have on the job. Most people up here would love to see them back here along with all the other officers detailed to the Sat teams, Wicker Park detail and other non sense. I sorry you felt it was necessary to say they were badasses,make fun of their looks or their Sergeant was clueless. so when you get off probation, no longer live with mommy and own your own home introduce your self to them tell them why your a better copper and not someone elses war stories please and clue in their sergeant. just becareful which sergeant you try to clue in
Hey 14 Nov 05, 1:40. I'm not a fake. I'm just trying to cut down on my swearing out of respect for my mom.
2:02
Why is it that when a white guy driving a BMW is stopped, it's because he commited a traffic violation?
But when a black guy driving a BMW is stopped, it's only because he was black (DWB)? Hell, even the black guy driving the beater claims he was stopped only because he's black.
I guess only white people commit traffic violations. Everyone else is stopped only because of their race.
11/15/2005 01:02:31 AM
easy tough guy, we all love 16.
What about if the white guy was driving thru 011?
No 2;06 open your eyes. Point out one thing I wrote that isn't true. It is so easy to cry RACISM! every time a valid point is made against the way urban blacks live. Why did the whites all run? Because we place family first.This is the same rerason that the term husband or wife is much more common in our language , than is the term baby daddy or baby mama. I refuse to raise my kids where they sell drugs on the street. A black is 7 times more likely to commit murder than a white. Blacks also target others for crime because of race. Yes, blacks commit more hate crime per capita too. Here is my challange to you 6:43. List all the city neighborhoods which blacks have improved in terms of crime...or anything else for that matter. I will list the one that were wrecked. Which list will be a mile long and which won't exist? You arrogant bastard, do you think all those white people enjoyed being forced to leave the neigborhoods they built and the friends and families established?
Good post, whitey.
Black man-your response?
stay safe
Most of the 016 tact and gang team use to work in the ghetto districts and some have gone on to be promoted. Don't you want your friends and family be protected. You are going to have dogs in all districts. In the ghetto they dont want police service enless it's a domestic and you are the boogy man (your entertainment)
To 5:47; All that hate is going to consume you one day.If you think being white and living where you live makes you better or more moral than others O.K. But thinking it doesn't make it so.I just hope you're not working in one of those "terrible" neighborhoods whose people you despise so.I shudder to think what kind of service they'd get from a P.O. like you.(or lack of)Hopefully,you work in a nice,clean,safe area with"wholesome" people like yourself.I'll admit you make a few valid points,but you paint too broad a stroke when describing one group of people.Not all blacks are offenders,and not all whites are racists.And for the record,blacks don't have the monopoly on the baby daddy situation.Check with some of your bretheren downstate or a few other rural areas.
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