Friday, November 11, 2005

Too Bad and Too Good

Seems the "Pinky-bandit" turned himself in to Channel 5 news crews today. Guess he was smarter than he looked. Personally, we are extremely disappointed. Sun-Times link here.

Also in the news, one of the suspects in the carjacking/kidnapping was recognized by his own grandmother, who confronted him and made him turn himself in. He has since flipped on his accomplice, who is also in custody. It's always a relief to see the older generation turning on the youngsters when they do wrong instead of covering up or excusing the behavior.

A belated Happy Birthday to the United States Marine Corps. Two hundred thirty years young. And a Happy Veteran's Day to everyone. One of the reasons we're allowed to run a blog like this is because of Veterans. So if you like freedom of speech, assembly, the option of worshipping your god, not worshipping at all, and living in the most prosperous country on earth that is the envy of all, thank a Veteran.


Blogger Fenian28 said...

Good for the grandma making him turn himself in. At least her generation has a little class. You should have seen the offender's shithead mother on tv hootin and hollerin. No wonder the fucker is carjacking/kidnapping elderly ladies. Good job Area One Detective Division. Happy Veterans Day to all, remember our soldiers.

11/11/2005 06:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Area 1 rules! They know how to smoke out the roaches.

11/11/2005 06:24:00 PM  
Anonymous What happened? said...

Freedom of speech? You are deleting and erasing posts at your whim?

11/11/2005 06:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

believe it or not in the military there are mutts;rapers,robbers,thiefs
so it's not a that a boy to all the "Veterans" lets not kid ourselfs, many of these piece of shits have been locked up in our holding cells throughout the C.P.D.

11/11/2005 07:33:00 PM  
Anonymous note to what happened said...

They delete the truth a lot..

Bunch of fucking pussies. Pissed off cause they have no clout to get promoted.


11/11/2005 07:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have had more of these scum bags show me military medical cards for I.D. then illegal mexicans showing me bullshit I.D's.

11/11/2005 07:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO : 07:33:40 PM

They hired these ex-marine assholes!!!! .. A bunch of brain washed fucking morons! They’ll wind up costing the city $20 million in settlements one day cause of the dumb shit they do out there.

11/11/2005 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is the U.S. military personell of today the same "PROUD FIGHTING G.I.s"of the 40's,50's,60's,70's.

11/11/2005 07:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think more fags in service, they find it to be a hide away from society.

11/11/2005 07:52:00 PM  
Anonymous dr. freud said...

Will the last six poster(s) take your meds?

11/11/2005 07:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

think again if you believe area 1 dicks persuaded the bad guys to come forth. the family members convinced the shitheads to come forward! "not the police"

11/11/2005 08:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You See "CAPS" Really Does Work!!!!

11/11/2005 08:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard the grandmother got a "fity"dollar gift certificate mail in rebate toward a pair of nike air jordans redeemable at ford city shopping mall.

11/11/2005 08:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well then you know J.C. Penney security is going to be chasing a fleeing fleon this holiday season cause the bitch ganna run!

11/11/2005 08:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Moderator censors what he (or she) wants. you've got no beef here. He (or she) is the one with everything on the line here, not you pussies throwing out your racist crap. Good for him (or her) shutting down your bullcrap. First amendment only applies to government, not privately held websites. go brush up on your law knuckledragger

11/11/2005 08:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


11/11/2005 08:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey a pair of air jordans can go a long way. And once your done beating the shit out of the shoes all smelly and well wore she can put them on E-BAY! freakie chinks those asian pacificors love that shit.

11/11/2005 08:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are able,save for them a place inside of you and save one backward glance when you are leaving for the places they can no longer go. Be not ashamed to say you loved them though you may or may not have always. Take what they have left and what they have taught you with their dying, and keep it with your own. And in that time when men decide and feel safe to call the war insane, take one moment to embrace those gentle heros you left behind. (Maj M.O'Donnel KIA RVN) God Bless All our Vets

11/11/2005 08:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 8:03 PM

The reason why the family members turned the offenders in because Area One Personnel discovered the offenders identity and and after numerous and numerous visits the family got tired of the pressure and made the offenders turn themselves in. The offenders were identified by good ol police work and we forced the ass

11/11/2005 08:03:13 PM

11/11/2005 09:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Freedom of speech? You are deleting and erasing posts at your whim?

11/11/2005 09:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IN FLANDERS FIELDS the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

11/11/2005 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why couldn't GRANDMA just be a descent lady???
Oh! she's BLACK so she has to be a crack dealer
waiting to get a pair of NIKE's

11/11/2005 10:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm an Illinois State Trooper. I conceive the family did turn in their family members alleged (offenders). ol police work no, more like threaten,hassle,coerce.what about professional police work sound familiar: search warrant,offender named warrant,leads teletype.
this is the reason there is no death penalty in Illinois.
Thanks to C.P.D. Detectives.

11/11/2005 10:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(Retired) Robbins P.D. have to say never dealt with the same volume of crime as CPD.
It's not the individual Officer!
I blame the CPD training techniques on your police work being sloppy.

11/11/2005 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ISP and Robbins Police telling us we're not good. I can't stand it. The world is upside down. I'll take 95% of any CPD unit and they'll be better that either of these law enforcement groups. ROFLOL

11/11/2005 10:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

training and the host of other issues all go back to political corruption in this city. Incompetent supervisors are the result of political corruption. There has not been an uncorrupt superintendent in generations.

Current has his son's friends promoted. Hundreds of promotees under the mob's boy Hanhardt still in charge of... something or other. Former super mealy-mouth badmouthing his officer's before the suits are filed... ensuring that the suits would be filed and his words would cost the city millions. Prior to him, super-drunk Rodriguez, passing out in his office. And so on and so on.

The mayor's former babysitter as the former de facto in charge first deputy.

None of the clowns in decades has been remotely qualified to do this. None are Bratton, or Evans. They are all friends of politicians, doing the bidding and non-bidding (hands off) of the politicians. No honor, no shame.

The training is only one effect of this slow-moving disaster in this city. Population loss, businesses fleeing, nation-leading taxes, highest homicide rate of any comparable city....

Its almost too late. Training is barely an issue when we are hiring gangbangers and hacks to wear the uniform.

11/11/2005 10:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ISP Sarge Here.

Have to call blame on your BRASS and you know what they say shit trickles down hill. Your preliminary investigations are infact pretty shitie.
I have been witness to several first hand.On the other hand you guys and gals are real "trooper" we ISP truly respect all your backup each and every time without hesitation! thank you.

11/11/2005 11:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


11/11/2005 11:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AREA #2 dicks should have been detailed to area one. They would have had someone in custody in no time, definitely would not have taken 5 days.

11/11/2005 11:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Troopers write tickets buy some pens and go write. We are talking about police work here when we bring up anal throbs and start talking about traffic we will call you.

GOD BLESS VETERANS -- I would speaking German if wasn't for the brave soles.

11/11/2005 11:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm for a suburban dept. that borders CPD. You guys are a little to rough. I have no problem with my counter parts.

P.S. watch those cameras.

Don't be offended if we don't stop our vehicles have dash mounted video.

11/12/2005 12:11:00 AM  
Blogger Fenian28 said...

Does the training we get in the academy suck? Big time. You have to learn how to be the police on the street, thanks the lawyers who have taken over our department.
I won't even get into what our counterparts at ISP and Robbins feel. I will not berate their entire departments because of what two clueless "officers" said.
I say we start a thread on how to improve training that's offered today.
Maybe the city can start by giving us a range we can actually use; sorry, i am not going to run into the academy on a Sat morning when i could be with my family/friends. Even then, they only have stationary targets. No wonder so many of us shoot like horseshit.
And what is up with this watered down pussified training we got at the academy? Put the kid gloves on and try not to offend anyone. I hear the recruits don't even get maced anymore, let alone have to ACTUALLY pass some physical tests. Add simunitions into the scenarios. Sorry but "RED, end of scenario" doesn't cut it on the street.
Okay, I feel better now.

11/12/2005 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: 11/11/2005 10:49:41 PM

Amen my brother

11/12/2005 01:01:00 AM  
Anonymous 10 weeks short of 29 and a day said...

The training at the Academy in a word is pathetic
In 28+ years Ive never fired my gun out of doors.
Or on the first watch
We need a Hogan's Alley
We need refresher courses
We need instructors who been there and done that. Not someobody's or daughter or nephew.
We Need bosses who acknowldege that police work can get messy and that If a politician disobeys a policemans lawful order he needs to be dealt with not apologized to
I feel sorry for the newer people.
I wish you the best of luck

11/12/2005 01:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11/11/2005 10:14:32 PM

Dear Trooper,
What family did you conceive? Also, tell us how many death penalty investigations you've been involved in? Have you ever tried to get an arrest warrant in Cook County? Only happens when the offender has fled the jurisdiction. It sure looks good though to see 5 or 6 of you processing a UUW in 011. LEADS teletype; for what? Ha! Ha! Why would I send a LEADS message to the next district or area. How come I never see you guys writing tickets between Damen & Austin on the Ike? Stick to writing tickets on the working man. On the upside, you guys sure have straight gig lines.

A/4 Det

11/12/2005 02:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Happy Veterans Day to all who served our country with honor.A special thanks to all our soldiers 11B who take all the dirty thankless missions the U.S.Army has to offer.And a heartfelt thanks to all our brothers in the Marine Corps who have so valiantly fought the insurgents and drove them out from the rocks they hide under.I and those like me pray for your safe return.From a former 11B (Basic Infantryman)4th Inf Division "Steadfast And Loyal!".

11/12/2005 04:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4th I.D. is deploying to Iraq for the 2nd time right now. "Follow Me".

11/12/2005 06:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fenian 28, After 30 years I'll still take the CPD and it's crappy training in the Academy run by lawyers(imcompetents) than any other department. As long as there are a few good street trainers things will work out. But I do feel for the majority of new coppers who have no clue. From "clueless" at 10:42:40 (only have 30+ years and I don't dog it)

11/12/2005 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


First off we stand by a mode;respectful,fair,honesty. We have a history of INTEGRITY in the ISP. We're proud of our appearance and reputation.

Unlike the CPD
Arrogant Detectives would never be successful in our agency.
I feel sorry for the young men and women of the CPD, for the path you have chosen to work the (C.P.D.)

11/12/2005 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


You are correct. They CPD has ruined any officer from working in a "real" police department. The real police act with professionalism, are well dressed (no base caps or three stooges ties), and is employed by a department that fires incompetent and vile workers. The shit the CPD pull that results in a 5-day suspension would mean termination in any other department. A 30 day suspension in Chicago would be equivalent to an indictment anywhere else.

So you all better shut your whining holes and stick together. It ain’t getting any better than the CPD for you schmucks. You got nowhere else to go.

11/12/2005 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


First off we stand by a mode;respectful,fair,honesty. We have a history of INTEGRITY in the ISP. We're proud of our appearance and reputation.

Unlike the CPD
Arrogant Detectives would never be successful in our agency.
I feel sorry for the young men and women of the CPD, for the path you have chosen to work the (C.P.D.)

How about this Traffic Warrior, What in God's Name do you know about police work? You haven't been a real cop your whole freakin career.

You stand by Integrity so much that a LT. that conducts homicide investigations (Obviously, they can't trust just an ordinary trooper with such a task) has to sue the ISP because they tried to influence his Homicide Investigation because the target was politically connected.

He then gets transferred out of investigations back to patrol.

Yep sounds like you all always conduct proper investigations with integrity.

I guess I can now paint your whole department with a broad brush and say that if a homicide involves the politically connected, you all will just transfer the Investigator out of Investigations back to patrol to influence the outcome.

Punish the investigator. Yep that's a great policy.

Look at your own house before you bash an entire department traffic warrior.

11/12/2005 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again the ISP shows its true face. Worst boss I ever saw was an ISP Sergeant on a joint task force with CPD. He knew everything and let us all know it. Thank God I worked for CPD bosses who knew the score. Oh by the way the ISP S.A.s came to our bosses to ask what to do. Seems that Mr. Super Sarge was worried about his ISP Camaro and when his boss (the mouth) would take it away. I know that's in the past.

11/12/2005 08:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you bash gig lines! was about CPD girth? let's not discuss appearance, because you sloppy pigs of CHICAGO have no chance in hell!

11/12/2005 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


we may have our flaws, but it's about #1 to CPD every #101

you guys need major help! maybe a FEDERAL take over of the CPD.....

11/12/2005 08:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To ISP Here:

Its very very easy to avoid any sort of criticism or controversy when you do not make ANY arrests that involve long prison terms or the Death Penalty.

People who do not make arrests usually do not get any complaints.

That being said, the more high profile cases you arrest people for the more controversy and criticism will be created because we have an adversarial criminal justice system.

Think about that one. When most of your arrest activity consists of Traffic Tickets, Misdemeanors, and Cases stemming from Traffic, the controversy is usually not there.

When you arrest someone for murder after the fact, there tends to be a lot more controversy involved because that is the Defense's Job.

So keep writing those tickets and handling those traffic crashes and everyone will think you are just the pinacle of professionalism.

Every suburb that has had any real high profile cases has been the brunt of criticism at one time or another.

We are big so we seem to get more of our share of criticism. If you had as many officers as CPD and made as many arrests as CPD you would be subject to the same criticism.

Look at any large urban department and you will find the same criticisms.

11/12/2005 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ISP guy still never answered my question about his qualifications. I wasn't knocking your gig line, I am awed by it. Too bad Alton Coleman never saw it. He probably would have confessed to everything.

11/12/2005 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One can only wonder how many other ISP homicide investigations went nowhere because the target had some political pull.

We may have only heard of this one but thanks to the courage of this ISP Lt., we now now that this does in fact occur in the ISP.

How many other investigations have been compromised and other Investigators have backed off rather than face the wrath of their bosses?

So now, how you paint CPD Detectives as Arrogant, we can paint ISP investigators as spineless (except the LT. of course).

11/12/2005 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've never heard such small minded crap in my life...this ones better than that one...grandma sells rocks....Det Division not only sucks but is responsible for the death penalty being recended?....Why does this site attract so many one has any idea how to work together and give credit where credit is due?......What a world.....

11/12/2005 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quote: "I've never heard such small minded crap in my life...this ones better than that one...grandma sells rocks....Det Division not only sucks but is responsible for the death penalty being recended?....Why does this site attract so many one has any idea how to work together and give credit where credit is due?......What a world..... "

But yet you could not resist responding to all of it. I guess that makes you the biggest moron of all. You know its moronic yet you still respond.

11/12/2005 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GOD BLESS ALL OUR VETERANS. THE SACRIFICES THEY GIVE, ALLOWS US THE FREEDOM WE HAVE! Talk all the shit you want, but this is the greatest country in the world, thanks to our veterans!!!

11/12/2005 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Just wearin blue now. said...

I will admit, I have turned into a check collector. And I will remain this way untill CPD returns to what was once a Police Department.

I have moved on and if CPD never catches up, I still collect a pension with no stomach ulcers. My life and family mean more to me.

So I belive it will change when The current mayor and his kronies are removed. There is no dignity or integrity on this department. And they will not take mine.

The training is a joke. And if hell ever breakes out in Chicago, our new recruits will run scared, and have been doing so already.

Ive heard several horror stories of PPO's not backing partners stating Im not going in there, its to dangerous. Yet, they are not removed from this job.

I will also say Im ashamed at how we badger each other.

God Bless all who served and scarificed. Thank You!

11/12/2005 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isp was a great and large department, remember when they were all like 6'2 and like 200 pounds? Now they are all pretty much latin and midgets, with skinny lil bitches running the traffic stops. cpd has many females now too, we have watered down what was a bad ass department, but our females will kick your ISp latin midgets asses, SIR.
Nice hats puds!

11/12/2005 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ISP, Why are you on a site titled Second City Cop? Because like most suburbs and other agencies you are wannabes. You want to check in and see what the real police are talking about. Sharp creases and thourough investigations of simple battery are important when you have nothing more important to worry about. We all know what your job entails, but you guys have no idea what we do on adaily basis. It's like watching the country boy feds come in and try to interview gang-bangers, very funny. You're silly hats and yes maam tactics would get you nothing but ridicule in the 007th. or 11th. district. This site is called SECOND CITY COP. I suggest you start your own site entitled TRAFFIC BOY where you discuss all of the traffic violations you write and your 2 legit arrests that you have made. Remember "buckle up and be safe" Trooper.

11/12/2005 11:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thinkthis Triple AAA with a badge is starting a war with C.P.D. he shouldnt of, if you dont want this continuing ISP bashing I suggest you leave this blogsite or shut your pie hole bad mouthing C.P.D. I cant count several times I've saved one of your asses on the Kennedy and Ike Exwy.Even got an award from ISP for doing so and will continue doing so, so watch what you say because the next CPD ofc.might not.

11/12/2005 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't we all just get along?

11/12/2005 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ISP never do anything on ther own, always in a task force with one or two guys. Their guys never know anything about police work, always want to be in charge but dont know how, their great followers. Always have someone else do the hard work and try to take the credit. Don't play well with others, always crying when they don't get their way (which is usually wrong). Don't have detectives, just a couple of bad drunks. Big problem with the sexual orientation of most of their female officers.

11/12/2005 03:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I never met a Marine over 5 foot tall. Most have small wee-wee's too.

Happy Birthday

Det. N. MAAS

A/2 Homicide Dick!

11/12/2005 05:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Enough already! We and the ISP can bash each other from here to eternity. They have their job,we have ours. Each one is important. We as Police Officers have many enemies and too few friends. The last thing we should be doing is arguing amongst ourselves! As amember of CPD(Which i'm damn proud to be a prt of!)My encounters with the ISP have always been pleasant and professional.And when dealing with them,I always try to show them the same courtesy.Let's face it,the Police is the Police.And if we hear them hollar for help we're all gonna roll sirens & lights blazing because the Police needs help.No P.O.worth anything would turn his back on another copper no matter who he/she is.

11/13/2005 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Relax, have a cream soda........................What are we going to argue about next? Which is a better branch of the service? What war was a real war? Who is a real Fire Dept? Sig vs Glocks?
Obviously, there are better cops, dept./ training and crime/bad guys = Mayberry and its Police Dept.


P.S. Your all Pussies.

11/13/2005 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Neil Maas said...

As a Viet Nam veteran, anyone who knows me knows that I would never condemn any other serviceman. I was downtown on Friday at the ceremony for the memorial for Viet Nam veterans reading the names of guys who did not return. I didn't see the phony author there.

This obvious non-veteran probably couldn't even spell SEMPER FI! The only good thing he wrote was happy birthday to the Marines.

The real Neil Maas, Area 2

11/14/2005 02:24:00 AM  

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