Tuesday, November 08, 2005

No News ISN'T Good News

Who has the latest homicide numbers? Because we noticed at least 3 homicides listed in the metro section of the times and all that talk about how good we were doing keeping the rate of killings down seems to have disappeared.

And everyone knows that when the bosses stop talking about what a great job we are doing, there's a problem.

57 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

When it comes to the "numbers" you have to be careful because there is no truth.

It's all about classification of incidents, and cases are mis-classified on purpose all the time to protect districts, units, heck -the whole police department.

When was the last time a true audit was conducted? I have the answer for you...it was never done and won't be because the truth would be bad.

11/08/2005 07:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now I'll have to get in the argument(again)with the Dick who told me I wasn't told to reclassify a woman found with her pants around her ankles and a brick in her head as a death investigation. Silly me had pulled a 0110.We magically kept the homicides under 600 that year (599!).

11/08/2005 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're not alone there. They were given a number and by God they held the line.

11/08/2005 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you pea brains.

"Truth" , "numbers" , "holding the line"...

whining bastards, just do your jobs and leave the thinking to those who can

11/08/2005 09:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can't handle the truth...

11/08/2005 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thin Blue Line

count them on one hand in any district or unit

they don't whine, do their job ,
set example for the next generation, have a cocktail, and do it all over again the next day

real police

11/08/2005 10:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just saw a bunch of IAD sergeants leaving the building with shovels, sledge hammers and other assorted gear.

Looks like someone is about to have a very bad day...

11/08/2005 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

P.S.
The Thin Blue Line doesn't "hold a line" it IS the line.

11/08/2005 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it was about 1979 when the City was hit with multiple Investigtions revealing the declassification of index crimes. It wasn't just Homicides, mostly all part one crimes were changed in order to give each district/area a more favorable appearance.......It took about four months and it was back to the same old undercounting. "The more things changes, the more they remain the same"

11/08/2005 10:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember in 79 my district had 4 sectors with a rolling squadroll in each one.

The bean counters reduced the district to 3 sectors, left one wagon, re-aligned beats...

They can't have it all ways. Increases in crime require increases in manpower and equipment
and every year we, the police, lose more. Every year we, the police, absorb additional responsibilities as well as come under the media guns.

The more things change the more the always shall remain the same...
except for the poor working beat guys. It seems to get worse for them every year.

11/08/2005 10:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's bean count in reverse:
Less manned two car units per watch.
Less response capability.
Less administrative support.
More guns & ammo on streets.
More Agg Batts to P.O.s.
More Gangs & bangers.
Less experience etc. etc.

Figures shall always belie the facts,
and liars shall always figure a way to cover their asses.

11/08/2005 10:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any update on IAD with shovels?

Bodies? Shoeboxes ? Hoffa?

11/08/2005 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe they are out trying to uncover their dignity.

11/08/2005 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oxymoron:

I.A.D. - Dignity

11/08/2005 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Atta boy to Sgt. Rochowicz, 021, for saving the carjacked woman in her auto trunk at 48th & Cottage. His daddy was an outstanding homicide dick in Area 4.

11/08/2005 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rock has always been a good copper.....

11/08/2005 12:25:00 PM  
Blogger Nu2dablog said...

I think we are ahead of last year by about 10 Homicides. The media has probably stopped talking about it because they have become bored with the story. As far as reclassifying to Death investigation, sometimes it is a good idea to start with a Death Investigation instead of pulling a 0110 RD. It's a lot easier to go from a Death to a Homicide than a Homicide to a Death. I'm sure if you go back and check, the woman with the brick in her head was probably reclassified to a 0110 and it counted for that year.

11/08/2005 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT HIDES AND RECLASSIFIES HOMICIDES ALL THE TIME AREA 2 HAD SEVERAL DEATH INVESTIGATION A WEEK CLASSIFIED BY THE M.E. AS A HOMICIDE BUT THEY KEEP THEM AS A DEATH INVESTIGATION. THE TRUTH IS WE STILL HAVE OVER 800 HOMICIDES A YEAR. THE F.B.I. NEEDS TO PROBE SOME FILES.

11/08/2005 12:33:00 PM  
Blogger Nu2dablog said...

You may be able to add 20 or even 30, but in no way are we anywhere near 800.

11/08/2005 12:37:00 PM  
Blogger Fenian28 said...

As of 4 or 5 days ago, we were supposedly down 2 from last year to date

11/08/2005 01:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone know a daniel rozenstr ?

11/08/2005 02:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just read about the Aldermen whining about not having enough money to pay their gas bills and needing more "assistants". What a slap in the face! WHY IN THE HELL DO WE NEED SO MANY ALDERMAN ANYWAY?!?!? If we cut the amount in half, we'd still have more than New York!!! Talk about a cash funnel.

11/08/2005 02:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is someone on crack?!! Do you really think that those in the Detective Division are going to hang themselves by covering up Homicides? You need to come upstairs once in a while and read a couple of files: Raed a Death Investigation and Homicide and you'll be able to figure out the difference.

11/08/2005 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey ! get into the real world.

11/08/2005 04:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey,

I was told this is the hot place where gay chicago police officers log on to meet each other. Do I have the right blog?

11/08/2005 04:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Area #1 Detectives are full of shit
who caughts the killers anyway?
the district tac and gang coppers
the real police, the heart and soul
of this half as department.

11/08/2005 04:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would agree tactical officers are your friends. They helped me
out off duty one time. I have to
give them a tumbs up.

11/08/2005 04:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Gay Blade said...

Anonymous said...
Hey,

I was told this is the hot place where gay chicago police officers log on to meet each other. Do I have the right blog?

11/08/2005 04:21:27 PM

Sure do, just ask the many men in the biggest homo unit TRU.

11/08/2005 04:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Not that there's anything wrong with that..."

11/08/2005 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is what the alderman think of people who pay thier taxes.

"Our goal is to get this into the neighborhoods, into Englewood and Austin," Laurino said. "We don't need to worry about Michigan Avenue or Lincoln Park."

Read the full article here

http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dsbiz/081bd2.htm

Its in the Southtown buiness section

11/08/2005 05:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 11/08/2005 04:45:07 PM:

Don't hate TRU. Just smile and do your domestics, crash reports, bite cards, curfews, CSA's of minors, foot patrol and go to your CAPS Meetings. Hump.

11/08/2005 06:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11/08/2005 12:33:20 PM

You're using The CCME's office as a source. Ha! Ha! You think this job is filled with political hacks? Try the M.E.'s office. You think Stroger is legit? I handle at least 2 to 3 homicide scenes a month. Some months many more. I haven't had an investigator come to a scene in two years. When they do its just to take a Polaroid for the doctor. In the last 2 years I've had a guy who fell down and fatally banged his head while running from the police; a guy who popped about ten Tylenol PM's, fell asleep outside, and died from hypothermia; and a guy who choked to death on a straw running from the police. All ruled homicides by the CCME. They named police officers as offenders in two of them. These fools are your source for police cover-up of homicides? Which former CDR of 015 and Pacman's infamous crew now runs the CCME's Investigators Office? You're a complete fucking idiot with no clue. I bet you couldn't find your dick while pissing. I hope you didn't take the Det. test.

11/08/2005 06:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11/08/2005 04:22:09 PM

A detectives job is to build a case and charge the offender. If a tact guy goes out and arrests the offender when the case is ready to go, that's great. But there's a lot more too it than making an arrest. Shut up when you don't know what you're talking about. You just make yourself sound stupid and bitter.

Of course, if you did well on the test you can come to A/4 and show us how its done. I'll be waiting in deep anticipation.

The men & women riding in those disrict beat cars are the backbone of this department. They don't have the luxury of doing their own thing and they are tied to that radio. They handle every shit job that comes along. You're Carhart jacket and carpenter jeans don't make you any better than them. It would do a lot of some good to go back and spend a period a year in a beat car.

11/08/2005 06:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would do a lot us of some good to go back and spend a period a year in a beat car.

11/08/2005 06:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not the guy you are yelling at, and I have a legit question. Are you talking about O'Shields or whatever? Is he seriously in charge of the CCME's investigations unit?

This city is in a death spiral.

11/08/2005 06:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah. Tru will take care of the one baggers, impounds and TVBs!

11/08/2005 06:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heard a rumor that they will be hiring back TRU, Gang/Tact Teams and SOS on their Fridays and Saturday RDO's due to the increase in homicides. Got this from a good source too.

11/08/2005 06:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes the same O'Sheids that was barred from the Federal building when he was a boss. The same O'Sheids that the G would not allow to participate in or have any knowledge of federal narcotics investigations when he was the commander of 015. The same O'Sheilds that put Pacman on a team right off probation. The same O'Sheilds that had that team working basically as his personal tact team. The same O'Sheilds they let run out the back door when the G came down in 015. The same O'Sheilds that went on to run CHA police, where they found hundreds of thousands of dollars in Fed money unaccounted for when it was dissolved. But he must be legit, because some snot nose is holding him up as a source of CPD homicide cover-ups.

11/08/2005 06:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoa, thanks. I had no idea. This city, county and state are an absolute disgrace.

FWIW, his son was also arrested, and I believe convicted, while he was a boss in Chicago. Something about stolen cell phones or phone cards or something.

Unreal.

11/08/2005 07:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hsi son was arrested on an overpass over the expressway some years ago. He was standing there with a cooler and inside the cooler was the equipment used to intercept the ESN (electronic serial numbers) of cell phones. With these ESN numbers you could make "clone phones". I believe he also had a few clone phones on him when he was arrested.

11/08/2005 07:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry "His"

11/08/2005 07:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tact & Gang teams are STILL patrol, only that it is civilian dress. It kills me when I meet one of these clowns from the soft districts and they say: "I'm from 020th district Tact," like it's some separate entity.

Of course there are eager policemen in the teams, but go over to the working districts and you'll find awesome coppers on the watch and in the tact teams. And guess what? There are some scared pussies on the watch AND the tact/gang teams.

11/08/2005 07:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

07:71
in a nut shell you wrapped that up!!!!!!!

11/08/2005 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

07:51 type"0"

11/08/2005 08:34:00 PM  
Anonymous old timer said...

O Shields sonn was cloning sell phone numbers
He was arrested in about 1994 or 1995 in an apartment in either 023 or 019

11/09/2005 01:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As of 1800 hours today we are down 2 homicides from last year. Not that anyone really gives shit but I thought I would throw it out there.

11/09/2005 01:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 09:16
Don't fret.
Guy was hit on the head in Dec of that year. Died several months later. City ended up with 600 after they ran to the press with 599.

11/09/2005 02:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leroy O'Shields was also the Commander out at O'Hare before getting dumped to 015 for strong arming hotel rooms. The cream just keeps rising to the top.

11/09/2005 08:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He got to 015 around 1989.

11/09/2005 08:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Phil,

If the homicide rate isn't dropping dramatically like you planned, can we have the officer's from the districts we live in back?

You can't change cultures, you can't stop the gang bangers because of the drug money, but you can be fair to the rest of the city. We deserve the same police presence the violent districts have. I pay alot of money to live Northwest and I really want the neighborhood to remain a good place to live and raise my children. Please don't let ego affect my well being.

I have a group of officers who live on my block and we keep an eye on the surrounding blocks because you send our district officers out, and we know how under-manned 016 is. I would rather go home after my tour and relax and feel protected, I think we deserve it.

I know we are the police 24-7, but what's fair is fair.

11/09/2005 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I though LeRoy MARTIN was the head of investigators at M.E.'s office.

11/10/2005 02:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You too could become the chief of medical exam investigators and be "untouchable" all these years if you swapped spit with Madigan's daughter, now the Attorney General. This was when she was an idealistic liberal northside law student and lawyer.

11/10/2005 11:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lisa Madigan and Leroy Martin an item???

Such a lovely couple.

11/11/2005 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no I think the writer was referring to Leroy O'shield, the blog seemed to be talking about him..

11/11/2005 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no I think the writer was referring to Leroy O'shield, the blog seemed to be talking about him..

11/11/2005 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't O'Shield get caught breaking in to Madigan's Apartment....
At the time she was the Associate Dean for Economic Development at Wright College....
The only area that they considered worthy of Development was Austin....
She was in that station every day....
Sometimes twice a day....
At the time he was also doing her boss....
Another lake front LIBERAL....
TRIVIA QUESTION-Who was Helen Schiller's campaing manager in 1987?
ANSWER-LEROY

11/11/2005 08:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who cares...........KEEP THE KILLINGS COMING........KEEP MO DUCKING FOR COVER........

11/15/2005 04:14:00 PM  

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