Quick! ASK FOR THE WAGON!
Seems the squadrol is about to become the place to be. Rumor has it that an order was cut this afternoon ordering District Commanders to take an inventory of body bags on hand because the "Body Snatchers" removal service is about to go belly up. Wagons will once again become the primary body transport vehicles citywide. The good news is that if you move ONE single body, you are entitled to out or grade D-3 pay for the day.
A small request of the wagon crews - if you go to a call and there are two bodies there, leave one for the next crew? You got yours, let the other guys get a bit of the action? We know of a few wagon crews that were moving bodies as if they were getting paid by the unit and screwing the other watches. Share the wealth - it's like $40 extra for the day.
A small request of the wagon crews - if you go to a call and there are two bodies there, leave one for the next crew? You got yours, let the other guys get a bit of the action? We know of a few wagon crews that were moving bodies as if they were getting paid by the unit and screwing the other watches. Share the wealth - it's like $40 extra for the day.
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
68 Comments:
A small request of the wagon crews - if you go to a call and there are two bodies there, leave one for the next crew? You got yours, let the other guys get a bit of the action? We know of a few wagon crews that were moving bodies as if they were getting paid by the unit and screwing the other watches.
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SCC.... you are a fucking moron, think about a new hobby other than the net. I hope you are taking the test tomorrow, im sure toi be pushed up one spot
ps....
i know, I know.... call me a mouthbreather, that makes you feel like you have a big one. but you still don't, asshat.
i know you're already sgt
Is that cute, grey haired guy still on 2372, 3rd watch? Goofy, but a babe, none the less.
One question, since the districts are so short, why leave the second body for the next crew if it's ready to go?
I understand the money end of it, but do you really think any superviosr with half a brain and some balls is going to let that happen?
Also, what if it's on the street? We can't leave a body laying in the street for hours. Shitheads aside, it's inhumane. Who wants to be the one to tell some greiving family member, "Sorry, we can only take one person at a time. Gotta let the next crew get their double sawbuck."
Just work S.O.S.
As much as they steal daily from the dope boys, you'll be rich in a year!
S.O.S. = Shakedowns Or Steal
Hey Dickhead
I know the difference between GOOD money and BAD money!
I only deal with the GOOD MONEY!
SOS SWAT MEMBER
You're an idiot if you think SCC is a Sergeant and a bigger idiot if you think he is on the FOP Board. He works in 025 on midnights and he isn't Orseno, though he's buddies with him.
do u think any watch commander will allow the other wagon crew to remove a body while the current wagon guys that are getting paid out of grade are still on duty......not! They will probabbly have a wagon assigned to an area and have that wagon do the removals for the whole police area. thats how they will save $$$$.
I know I work in headquarters
Riddle me this, Why would you create new rapids when you can't even fill the spots of the regular rapids on a daily basis? There was a notice in the C.O. book that these new rapids MUST be manned on all three watches, while normal 40 and 50 sector rapids are downed.
This has to take the cake for most ass backwards smoke and mirrors management decision to be made in years. These bosses are so out of touch with patrol and district level policing its pathetic.
"...Orseno, though he's buddies with him..."
I sure hope to hell that is not true
This should be a job for the Medical Examiner's Office. They should be well trained, well paid and well equipped. They should have proper protective gear, masks, gloves, tools and trucks.
This would be a good internship for pathology and mortuary science students.
Never happen...that makes too much sense.
correct me if im wrong, but doesn't everywhere but chicago have the me grab the body?
I normally do not agree with the city but please will you guys just shut the fuck up and pick up the body. My God you act like It is beneath you. You are doing Gods work by properly transporting a body. Hey People here's a flash. Police work can get dirty and that includes picking up bodies. What a bunch of whining pusses.
People, people get a grip here. Good luck tester's, I'm on my way out and have the pleasure of not caring about who is or isn't promoted anymore, Just wish you the best boss's, the city can buy. Now that didn't come out right. Cig. Filter's work for those, what do we call them, oh yeah, stinker's. Sorry Joe an Jane public, hauling bodies gracefully is a rough job.
normally do not agree with the city but please will you guys just shut the fuck up and pick up the body. My God you act like It is beneath you. You are doing Gods work by properly transporting a body. Hey People here's a flash. Police work can get dirty and that includes picking up bodies. What a bunch of whining pusses.
What kind of training did you get to determine what a person died from? I've been on removal runs where it was pretty clear that the deceased died from something that I did not want to bring home to my family. Police work does get dirty, I'll agree with you on that. You don't intentionally step in pools of piss do you? This is a job that we are not properly trained or equipt. to safely perform.
6/24/2006 01:28:48 AM
No one said anything about intentionally stepping in pools of piss and and If you do not want to bring something home to your family get a new job because the LIVE people we deal with have many maladies. As for not being trained or equipped please give me a break. I have many times improvised in the past with what is available, IE a Shower Curtain, Comforter, etc and have been able to take care of my job. Quit you Bitching Police Boy and Do your job.
"more than 2 days on", obviously doesn't have much more than that as experience, if he or she is the police at all.
He or she had never had to handle a human body more than a few days dead. Never had to get the fire department with their air masks and boots to scrape the remains off the floor that was dripping through the ceiling below. God bless them for helping out; we always sent that house a couple of pizzas to say thanks.
He or she never brought that never forget it odor home with them and have their kids ask, "What smells so bad Daddy?"
Has anyone recently seen one of those red Personal Protective Equipment bags? They were not much good to begin with.
Why isn't that job handled like it is in every other city in this country; by properly equipped and trained personnel from the County Coroner or Medical Examiner.
How about the down time it takes the wagon to go back and forth, out south its hard enough to get a wagon.
I have a question. Where exactly was 1612 from 0830 to 1100 yesterday?
Can someone please tell the blog.
Gunfire victim sues ex-Harris suspect
A week ago, he was publicly known only as R.G. -- the boy wrongfully arrested at age 7 for the murder of 13-year-old Ryan Harris.
Now, a lawsuit filed Friday threatens to take all of that away.
RoMarr Gipson, now 15, is being sued by one of the men he's accused of shooting in a south suburban Calumet Park gas station.
Clifton Smith's mother wants unspecified damages from Gipson, his mother, his estate and his stepbrother Roman Foreman, who also is charged in the shooting.
Earlier this week, the family took $50,000 out of the estate to get RoMarr out of jail.
Still, more than $300,000 remains in his estate in investments, with another $750,000 set aside for monthly payments to RoMarr for the rest of his life.
Then, last week, a bankruptcy trustee told the Chicago Sun-Times that when he presided over Gipson's bankruptcy last year, she never mentioned the $2 million settlement -- even though she personally received $25,000.
He said she swore under oath she was not part of any lawsuits, a move he said was likely bankruptcy fraud and something he was referring to the U.S. attorney for criminal charges. He said he also plans to ask a federal judge to re-open her bankruptcy case.
Dear Webmaster, you are a delete, who deletes little boys in the delete. Take your delete and stick it in your delete after your sister gets done delete your small delete !! Now find something else that needs to be deleted (Im sure youre a Bosses housemouse).
I don't think the meds are working
Woke up, looked around, noticed the time, ahhh..FUCK!
I guess I'll be a blue shirt a while longer!
To hell with it.. Why should I waste my time on a beautiful Saturday morning sitting in a classroom on the Northside..when some Kool-aide drinking asshole is lying in bed thinking about their future D-3 "MERIT Promotion" and deciding how to spend their morning?
SCC:
It appears that 7:13 AM believes that you are being "heavy-handed" by deleting vile, anonymous and preposterous lies in transparently vicious attempts at character assassination. How low can he go?
While such desperate and despicable cowards are invariably motivated by envy and hate, your appropriate actions will constrict such pathetic losers to "posting" their obscene graffiti on shithouse stalls.
The mere intensity and relentlessness of his ad hominem attacks against Northside implicates the instigator as a ranking, pathologically vindictive member of the CPD--a treacherous backstabber with "clout", a twisted mind and probably a severe problem with alcoholism and low self esteem.
P.S.: I see he's back directly above this post at 9:18 AM.
9:18 AM
Get help before you eat your gun.
Isn't Sir Francis Drake a big homosexual? I believe he is? Why would one use the name of a big homo? Maybe he is just a homo want-to-be.
Francis, Daddy is calling, he needs his back washed in the shower again!
Eat your gun? Is that code for you know what? Homo's all have code talk!
Who is the tall skinny blonde babe from TRU? Would I? Yes, I would! Many times over and over!
My buddy has been texting me questions from inside the Sgt's part 2 test. I am looking them up and answering them. This City is so easy. What a joke!
Only strange thing about this... with all the bodies in Chicago you would think that they would be having record profits, not preparing to go under...
When you give large up front lump paymemts to a shithead own company, they tend to smoke it up on rocks than to re-invest it. And probably rifle through the pockets of mosy of the bodies they transported.
Is it too late to go to the Part 2 of the Sgt. exam? Shit I'm hung over.
Go ahead and go to the exam. Show up talking on the cell phone while holding a bag of smelly Harold's fried chicken with extra hot sauce. They'll just think your part black and be afraid to tell you that you are late.
"Dead For Sale!"
"Bring out your Dead!"
and for some of you:
"Notify the Watch Commander..."
I believe 9:18 is a Sox fan.
*bonus freebie sgts. test question I*
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When you don't know an answer, the best strategy is to:
a) Guess rather than leave it blank
b) "C", every time
c) "NOTIFY THE WATCH COMMANDER"
d) Fellate the Watch Commander
e) Cunnilinguify the Watch Commander
e) Anally receive your Alderman
*f) "Toss your clout's salad"
*bonus freebie sgts. test question II*
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If you have NO Clout Phone Call, your chance of being promoted on today's Sgt.'s Exams is:
a) 10%
b) 5%
c) 2.5%
d) 1%
e) negative PI to the Nth power (-3.14666 x N)
*f) Snowball's chance in Hell
g) Solely based on your mastery of the G.O.'s
h) none of the above (HOPELESS)
*bonus freebie sgts. test question III*
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Is SCC's Secret Identity...
a) Jimini Curry
b) Steve Skorch
c) Rue Saint Michellle
d) Joe N.M. Smyth
e) Zelig Burke
f) Rosemari Giambalvhoe
g) Dick Aguilara
h) Almighty Insane Seiser
i) Joe "Certain" Curtains
j) Willie "The Whale" Finnigan
k) Three of the above
Can we sell the bodies to the "nearest" (highest paying) funeral home like the old days?
By now the price should be $100.00 per corpse. Yes! Bring on the old days!
1:08 PM
LMAO. Best post on this thread.
More! More! More!
HEY JOE, WHERE YOU GOIN' WITH THAT PENCIL IN YOUR HAND
HEY JOE, I SAID WHERE YOU GOIN' WITH THAT YELLOW HIGHLIGHTER IN YOUR HAND
I'M GOIN' DOWN TO TEST MY `OL BLUE SHIRT DOWN
YOU KNOW I'M SICK O' MESSIN' 'ROUND IN P.O. LAND
YEAH, I'M GOIN' DOWN TO TEST MY `OL BLUE SHIRT DOWN YOU KNOW I'M SICK O' MESSIN' 'ROUND IN P.O. LAND
HUH! AND THAT AIN'T TOO COOL
A HEY JOE, I HEARD YOU BLOGGED YOUR DEPARTMENT DOWN
YOU TYPED HER DOWN NOW
A HEY JOE, I HEARD YOU BLOGGED C.P.D. DOWN
YOU TYPED HER DOWN IN THE GROUND
YEAH!
YES, I DID, I BLOGGED HER
YOU KNOW I CAUGHT C.P.D. MESSIN' UP MESSIN' ROUND DOWNTOWN, SPREADIN ALL OUR MONEY ROUND
UH, YES I DID I BLOGGED HER
YOU KNOW I CAUGHT MY DEPARTMENT MESSIN' UP' ROUND TOWN
AND GAVE THE COPPER'S THE "GUN"-
AND THEY "SHOT" "HER"
ALRIGHT
"SHOOT" HER ONE MORE TIME AGAIN BABY!
YEAH! BLOG HER!
OH DIG IT
OH ALRIGHT
HEY JOE,
WHERE YOU GONNA RUN TO NOW WHERE YOU GONNA RUN TO NOW
HEY JOE, I SAID
WHERE YOU GONNA RUN TO NOW WHERE YOU GONNA GO
I'M GOIN' WAY DOWN SOUTH
WAY DOWN TO 35th STREET, ALRIGHT
I'M GOIN' WAY DOWN SOUTH
WAY DOWN PAST BOUL MICH
AIN'T NO ONE GONNA FIND ME
AIN'T NO WHITE SHIRT GONNA HANG ME
HE AIN'T GONNA PUT A "MEARDAY" ON ME
CAUSE I'M TRADIN' THIS BLOG FOR A WHITE SHIRT!
YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT RIGHT NOW
I GOTTA GO NOW
HEY, JOE
YOU BETTER RUN ON DOWN
GOODBYE EVERYBODY
HEY HEY JOE
1:12
A C-note is chump change. Bring along sponges, a scalpel, a large beer cooler and saran wrap on your tour.
BODY PART$ is what's happenin'. Kidneys, livers, hearts, even scrotums for the bosses...
There's this guy in Chinatown...
I just got done taking the sgt. test a wright. I went on a bathroom break and there were two guys on the phone asking for answers to the test questions. Then walks in a Sgt. and sees this and does nothing! What a great test! Why bother when there is only going to be a few hundred spots open! What a joke!!!!!!
i thought the test did not come close to accurately measuring what a sergeant does. It should have put a lot more weight on knowledge of the orders and law, not on what do you do if someone is being rude on the phone. You could have studied your butt off, been able to know and recite every order by heart and still failed miserablly. Just a poorly put together test. My opinion.
I agree. i feel real stupid sitting and studying orders for the past 3 months only to discover that I have to explain things to beat meeting people and admonish P.O.'s. Not very well-rounded. Was it just me or were a lot of answers in the last section "A"
We will never know because they kept the sheets.....Why can we take the sheets for the first part and not the second???? I'll tell you why....First part legit....second part isn't!!!!!
I agree this test was a joke as far as measuring a sergeant duties. No weapon discharge, haz mat, school violence, etc. Only a missing mental elder? Very poor.
Also, does anyone feel the second part was a joke also since they do not tell you what to do in any of those situations from a approved Department standpoint.
Let the lottery begin.
This is a Riot
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13512149/?GT1=8211
must say easy test ..or at least a poor to very poor measure ones ability...1st thing u say to mother with 12 yr old possibly being gang target...thanks for coming to the beat meeting...
im thinking scc is being sarcastic..."yea squad we got 2 stinkers here...wanna dupe it to us or you got another wagon coming?"thats like the wagon being called to transport 3/4 bad guys and taking them 1 at time
I GOT COLD FEET ON THE SGT. EXAM AND WALKED OUT...DAMMIT!!!!
I'll agree, test was a joke (as usual) no way in hell you'd be able to get everything right even if you were a house mouse studying for a year. The only way of coming close is.....here ya go study these General Orders wink wink, I really think you need to look over these orders wink wink. Berstein was a good class, but from the questions asked today he did'nt scratch the surface as well I thought he would. Lets be honest, the only way this testing process is gonna be legit is to eliminate this 30% merit crap (although there are alot of people who really do deserve it!) cause the last time I checked the definition of merit doesnt read "see clout". Lawsuit is in order and an overhaul of who's making the tests cause lets be honest, there are some really dumb fuckers out there that score extremely well and its kinda obvious that SOMEONE is telling people what to study. I know it sounds like jealousy to some but lets be fair and whats rht is right. Good luck to everyone and be safe.
fromagoodhardworkingPOjustlikeyou.
i work the wagon once. it seems 4 preventable accidents in one tour was too much.
Regardless of the outcome of this test, it got several thousand PO's reading their orders and possibly learning some info that will help them, and others, somewhere down the road. Anyone who took studying for this test seriously probably knows the Orders better than 95% of the current supervisors.
I agree with above posts. Test was a joke. The second part had nothing to do with orders/knowledge of job. It was meterosexual sgt questions. How do you feel? are you ok?, try this. I studied my ass off and knew everything about weapon discharges, haz mats, hbt, violent school incidents, caps and summary punishments, crs etc. Also the said no baseball caps on during test to prevent cheating but a M/1 in my class wore sunglasses during the whole test and the proctor said nothing.
BLUE SHIRT
Where the hell do they get the proctors from? They really are some of the dumbest people. One of them in my classroom I was couldn't even figure out what time to give us a 45 min warning at!
And why do they need our name written on the scrantron? Isn't our soc sec # enough? And the name on the booklet for part one to "verify all pages are there"? Yeah, that page is ripped off. Right, honey. Yeah, this job's legit. So legit, I can't even take the scantron copy of my answers out the door. SURE.
All I could think about when reading the question about the mother and her 12 year old child was all the dirtbag Sgt's I've known that would use it as a tool (pun intended) to stick his supervising member in the mother.
Anyone think that you had the change the Criminal Sexual abuse classification of the one case report. Wasn't all the law supposed to be reference or did they just classify it wrong?
i answered every question with..."i'd refer to the supervisor refenence guide"...next
You can just call me "Sgt NOT!" This test was a joke. It is just typical Police Department nonsense. The only difference between the tests of old and the tests of new...now they charge you to give the promotions to the clout people. I hope if I ever make Sgt. I never become what they want Sgt's to become.....Get C.R.'S on everything. This department is becoming an embarassment, and I've only been here for 15 years. How about the question where the police officer chases a burglary offender, catches him, recovers the money, and citizen reports the P.O. struck the offender in the face... the offender didn't make the claim, a citizen did...P. O. claims offender tried to disarm her and he fell hitting his head on the sidewalk (I believe the police officer...oops, not the correct Sgt. answer).....OK, I know....believe the "wonderful" citizen and get a C.R. # on the copper....great job huh? (it used to be well known that if you ran from the police...and they caught you....you had a beating coming...it was just expected (and deserved), especially if they made me run...I hate to run!!., anyway, I hope the test scoring doesn't hurt the people that really want to be good supervisors...we need some good ones...stay safe everyone
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And why do they need our name written on the scrantron? Isn't our soc sec # enough? And the name on the booklet for part one to "verify all pages are there"? Yeah, that page is ripped off. Right, honey. Yeah, this job's legit. So legit, I can't even take the scantron copy of my answers out the door. SURE.
6/24/2006 06:24:38 PM
Were you in 212 at AM Steinmetz?? I almost choaked when she said that! Any why is my name on the scantron, and not keep the back copy like all the other times?
OFF POST:
A FOLLOW UP LETTER HAS BEEN FORWARD TO OUR RETIREES. This letter is stating opposite of the previous letter which they received. So is the pension board as screwed up as everybody else in the City.
NOTICE TO ANNUITANTS
In a recent letter to you dated June 9, 2006, a statement related to those annuitants who may not be due a refund of insurance premium was incorrect. The categories of annuitants that may not receive a refund are those annuitants, whether single or married and had
NON-MEDICARE coverage. Retired Officers or widows with single medical coverage are entitled to a refund. I apologize for this error and again, once an audit is complete, those annuitants entitled to a refund will receive it from the city, with interest.
John J Gallagher, Jr.
Executive Director
always look on the bright side said...
Regardless of the outcome of this test, it got several thousand PO's reading their orders and possibly learning some info that will help them, and others, somewhere down the road. Anyone who took studying for this test seriously probably knows the Orders better than 5% of the current supervisors.
6/24/2006 05:15:31 PM
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Who gives a F&%$ about the G.O's.
If you F&%$ up, knowing them isn't going to save you. What's going to save you is not F&*^%$g up.
Know the law!! That way you don't end up in the joint.
There are always rule violations
that the department will get you on.
Two things:
1. I just saw my first elotes cart of the year, and I actually looked to see if it was ricky selling the elotes, might have been, hard to tell...
2. Someone mentioned a dad driving his daughter to the academy in a city car, last one I remember doing that was rainbow acosta, it was just convenience, he was not trying to impress anybody, NOT....
Now its time for a couple of pops....
Ya have to admit mouthbreather is funny, just not within close proximity to the ripe one.
Is there any truth to the rumor that the bodysnatcher service is co-owned by (for you youngsters on the job) Former CPD Superintendant LeRoy Martin (now the Coroner of Cook County) and Former CPD Deputy Supt. James Whigham, who is currently the Chief of Staff to John "Get me a drool bib" Stroger?
Their "service" sucks, 3-4 hours to get a van up to pick up the stiff.
Good riddance to them and let a copper make some extra dough once in a while. Some regular wagon guys were making some nice OOG money every month.
What's the name of the service? You can query it on the Sec. of State's webpage as a registered LLC. Go under the Business Services and run it
6/24/2006 07:46:53 PM
Negative. I was at Wright. But stupidity was running rampant at both places, I guess.
im nostalgic for the days of the wagon removing the dead body. sometimes they were alright other times bad, but it was unique for a police department to do. it was almost a tradition passed from one generation to the next. yeah this one time i had this stinker...
From FOP News Letter Jan. 04
On 15 Dec 03, Arbitrator Briggs issued an arbitration award on Dead Body Removal. These are the main points of the arbitration. Effective 1 Jan 04, Police Officers who transport a deceased person in any manner to or from any location shall be provided with out of grade pay at the D3 rate for their tour of duty. The Lodge made a demand for retroactive pay effective to 26 Mar 02. The arbitrator rejected this demand. Dead Body removal is handled almost exclusively by officers assigned to work the wagon. However, there have been numerous situations where the removal takes more than 2 officers. If you are working a wagon and receive a removal assignment that requires more than 2 officers, call for a supervisor. Have a supervisor authorize an assist unit and document the assisting officers in the Hospitalization Case Report. This way there will be no confusion as to which officers get the out of grade pay.
The arbitrator also directed the Department to provide officers who transport deceased persons with equipment appropriate for the protection of their health. While this is not a definitive direction, Management and Labor Affairs provided the Lodge with samples of equipment used in this field. Numerous officers have inspected the equipment, and found it far superior to the current equipment available.
Office, it doesn't matter what we all know would and should happen to offenders that run, when taking these tests you have to answer the way the city wants and expects, you have her do a trr, charge him with attempt disarm and resisting on top of the burglary charge and if it is pushed,just get the cr, it's no big deal when it's handled correctly ahead of time, she would be exonerated......
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