It's Official
From the Tribune's Clout Street blog:
Chicago’s police union endorsed Gery Chico in the mayor’s race today, choosing the former Daley administration official over Rahm Emanuel because officers believe they would fare better with him on key issues, especially changes to their pensions.
On a small stage where a couple dozen beefy cops in suits packed themselves around Chico, Fraternal Order of Police President Mark Donahue called the candidate “a Chicago guy” and lauded his track record working to bolster the police department’s ranks during his term as Daley’s chief of staff in the 1990s.
Thanks for the "beefy cops in suits" comment you lefty pinko slanted-reporting ignoramuses. Here's something that needs to be rectified though:
- Support for Chico and Emanuel was about even in the balloting, Donahue acknowledged. Ballots were sent to 17,000 union members in December. Not all members responded. Donahue confirmed that the two candidates were separated by less than 100 votes, though he could not immediately say how many ballots were cast. He pointed out, many union members cast their ballots before the candidates began to answer questions publicly about how they view the need for pension reform.
Participation was rumored to be low, so low that Donahue was embarrassed to even mention a number at the meeting. We realize that to many cops, living in a democratic controlled town is an anathema to their political leanings and the lack of affordable housing in quiet neighborhoods dilutes any chance of creating a formidable bloc of voters. But for something as simple as sending back a pre-printed envelope that arrives on the doorstep, participation ought to be well into the 80 and 90 percent ranges.
UPDATE: The envelope wasn't prepaid - it was pre-printed. Post corrected.
UPDATE: The envelope wasn't prepaid - it was pre-printed. Post corrected.
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80 Comments:
"Thanks for the 'beefy cops in suits' comment you lefty pinko slanted-reporting ignoramuses."
Ah, but just the beefy guys they want to see come running -- all red-jowled and ham-fisted and ready to rumble -- when their girlfriend/boyfriend/significant other shrieks that someone's stealing the GPS out in the parking lot as the affair breaks up...
F***ers make me laugh.
F that. Our recommendation was sent out way too early. How in the hell were we supposed to say who we were going to vote for before any debates or detailed media reports? FOP, you choices for who you support in elections are shady. How many triple dippers are you going to support this election?
YAY! Chico and the Man"
Get 'em Chico!
I admit I sent in the ballot and "voted" for Rahm.
However I WAS VERY SORRY when that cock-sucker piece of SHIT stated he would attempt to cut our pensions.
May he burn in hell.
I never got mine in the mail. What ballot?
-midnights 025
FOP members can register to vote at any Chicago Library.
"...a couple dozen beefy cops in suits..."
And what, pray tell, does being "beefy" has to do with anything?
The most beautiful thing in the world was a caravan of Box Chevys tearing ass across the ball field, screeching tires getting up on the side walk or slamming on brakes in the alley and ALL FOUR DOORS swing open and 1000 pounds of "beefy" and hard fisted Chicago Muthafuckin' Po-leece exited the cars to do some immediate problem solving.
What next? You can't be The Police if you're 6ft and above and more than 240lbs?
OH! That's right! Tracy Ladner said the new, friendly, multi-lingual, tech savvy, size 36 regular Police are the wave of the future.
You old, grizzled, head-knocking, eye-slapping, hostile and unfriendly, size 50 and above coppers are going to be declared obsolete.
Sarcasm and Silliness!
So you have a ballot mailed to your house and to submit it you don't even have to leave the house and responses are under ten percent. And yo expect coppers to vote in the mayoral primary. That requires actually leaving the house. No wonder no one cares who Fop endorses. There is probably less than three thousand cops that will vote. Wake up get involved.
Why is it that the Shields team could not answer who they endorse for Mayor except "not Rahm".Guys;just a few weeks before the election and you have no idea who you support for Mayor and your only reply is who not to vote for?Guys;get a clue.Like i want to trust you with my pension money when you cannot answer a very important question when asked...BTW Shields brother looks like Drew Carey and should stick to the "Price is Right"instead of things above your head.Your only strong point on your platform is to retain Pat Camden as spokesperson.I guess its on our dues that "tan man"get another gig.BTW GO CHICO!Lesser of all evils!Not City Wide Team...A/2 PO.
So FOP endorses CHICO and in return he endorses BELLA. What does that mean for contract negotiations?
It wasn't a prepaid envelope. I filled it out. Didn't feel like putting stamp on it and forgot to take it to work to put in police mail. That's ok though I had rahm but not voting 4 him now.
I live in mt. greenwood and I didnt get a ballot!! I wonder whats up with that! I know I have about the worst mail delivery around but it has improved a lot latley. It should of been there
There are many officers rhat did not even get a ballot. If this is any indication of how the FOP runs an election, I can see scandal now. Mark you really turned out to be a real POS.
"A Chicago police officer must live within the city limits in order to keep his or her job. If they're found to be living outside the city, they're not invited to run for mayor. Instead, they run the risk of getting fired."
John Kass
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/local/ct-met-kass-0120-20110119,0,5095536.column
How can my wife and I vote for the Union election? Do we go to the FOP hall? CW!!
Dont trust the current FLOP, so I did not mail the ballot in. Thought for sure they would back Rahm. Boy was I wrong. I won't forget to mail the next ballot in. Change is coming and it's good.
GO Chico
I believe Rahm announced he was seeking to wreck the pensions after the ballot due date.
I keep seeing this topic or comment about what unit the candidates from! Who cares, if the unit number is there or not. Everybody on this job knows somebody who knows who is running. You can go by the rumors of what a candidate has done, or the actions. So far the only action I have seen is from Mike, I have not seen to many other cameras rolling or Daley ex Chief of staff being hammered with questions. So having said that I am one who feels that talk is cheap. SO GET TO WORK ON FIXING THE PROBLEMS OR GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY.
Just saying
Perhaps Chico should have looked @ the memberships dismal voting record in the own Lodge before garnering their support. If you think Rahm despises us now, wait until he gets in. Get ready to be bent over & split like a Pork Chop!!
Chico is THE MAN!
We must go all out for Gery Chico to prevent the scourge of Rahm Emmanuel from getting in.
Rahm is the absolute worst.
If coppers knew Rahm's stance on pensions I doubt if any of them would check off Emmanuel.
Instead of Rahm Emmanuel it should have read: "Do you want a mayor who will fight to reduce your pension?"
See how many of the morons who checked Emmanuel would check YES to reducing their pensions.
Mine wasn't prepaid. I had to put a stamp on it. Still did it though.
Look, I'm a civilian and I'm afraid I can't afford high pensions for you guys because I myself have no job and no pension. Where do you think money comes from, we can just get it by raiding the bags of gold in Scrooge McDuck's basement? It's time for everybody to get real.
Hey Asshole, We don't get high pensions a few exempts do. We pay almost 10% every check into our pensions. We don't collect social security thanks to Dan funkinkowski. We are the ones who keep you safe from the animal every day. Take away all the benefits from this job and see who applies for it. If you want Detroit or better yet Soylent Green, keep thinking that way. How much of your tax dollars go into our pensions anyway? I don't see you complaining about how many of your tax dollars goes into paying Link or Section 8, or all the other so called social programs. No because you are afraid to face the animal. You would rather pacify him and hope he goes away. Well if not for us he would take more than your tax dollars from you. I bet you are a Democrat as well.
I didn't send mine back because I looked at the candidates and nearly puked. They are correct, if they had sent them out more recently, I'd have returned mine. I'll be holding my nose and voting for Chico.
If true, that the rank and file were split between two candidates, I would think it would be Braun and Chico. How could any police officer "in their right mind" vote for Rahm after he threatened our pensions? This election is critical and all of us should be spreading the word to family and friends. Please register to vote and vote for anyone but Rahm.
"Beefy"? What's up with this David Heinzmann?
Two questions:
1) How many Policeman has Chico and his scumbag law firm personally sued?
2) How did the Bugged Eyed Ballerina vote on HR 218 when he was a congressman?
The real question is would you rather be poked in the eye with a stick or shot with a gun???
Mark and Company gave us such a great contrat too. WTF way to ignore the membership
Chico is the Daley guy just aske 11th Ward and John Daley. Meet the new boss same as the old boss. Masters will stay
SCC, ban everyone that didn't respond! Dont'cha wish u could? Jerkoffs. They are sure making Rahm grin w/delight!
I for one as well as seven others i spoke with at the FLOP meeting Tuesday night never received anything from the FLOP about mayoral choices. I ALWAYS open any mail from FLOP first when it comes in the mail cause I fugure its important. This whole process has been a sham I believe. Guys and gals please before you vote take a long look at CHICO. He may be the worst of them all and he represents EVERYTHING we have been pissed about with DALEY: him and his wife getting VERY RICH from hsi connections at city hall. He was chosen by Dalay to serve on numeroous boards which in itself is fine. He has used those conections to line his pockets to the tune of MILLIONS of dollars. Its not enough that he was getting rich he brings his wife along for the ride for several million more. This is DALEY all over again. He is the WORST choice at this time by far. Anybody who will tell you that the pension is OK and don't worry about it is full of shit. That is to get your vote now and fuck you later. Think about it!!!!!
Nearly everyone I spoke to at work had the same response: what ballot?
Well done FOP. No wonder Rahm had no qualms about coming out with several anti-police stances in the recent weeks. Our vote (or rather lack thereof) can be wholly disregarded with no repercussions.
Congrats Chico -- you picked up about three dozen votes yesterday because we coppers are too lazy to be bothered. Good luck with that...
There were no Republicans on the ballot so why would I send it in? I ain't voting for any of them assholes. I'll write someone in.
When I'm being accosted on Michigan Ave. and Superior by a bunch of wilding arses from the west or south side, there is nothing like seeing a Ford Vic roll up with some beefy cops to equalize the situation. BTW,don't send any of the size 36 guys. I'd be afraid someone might pick one of them up and swing them like a weapon or even worse, disarm them.
In a confrontation,there is much to be said for mere physical presence and attitude.
Scc, I know that many officers did not receive ballots. It seems like 1 out of every 20 coppers i talk to say they received a ballot.
Rahm will recommend his supporter Komrade Bill Ayers for Superintendent.
I never got a ballot
Please read more than the headlines. Vote for Chicao and accept the factthat no candidate will be perfect. Rahm has the Mayor's backing and he is younger and more spiteful. Stop with all the rhetoric and protect your fucking pension. This is the most important issue that you ever will face regarding your job.
I don't understand why the FOP has to stand behind someone. Shouldn't you stand behind any mayor that gets elected? I wonder how awkward it'll be when Chico doesn't win. Will that be bad for the FOP if our new mayor knows that you didn't support him during his campaign? Don't get screwed.
Rham blew it, he was suposed to meet with some active&retired guys a while back for their input. He never bothered. I guess he was too busy to talk to HONEST WORKING folks. This happens when you surround yourself with all of Daley's people.
I never got mine in the mail. What ballot?
-midnights 025
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Don't worry about it.
You were sleeping when I tried to deliver it.
I voted for Danny Davis for you.
~ Your mailman.
So FOP endorses CHICO and in return he endorses BELLA. What does that mean for contract negotiations?
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No the FOP Political Action Committee voted on who they were going to vote for.
I have not received a ballot, Have they gone out?
Face it all the candidates suck. Chico is the least suckiest.
No because you are afraid to face the animal. You would rather pacify him and hope he goes away. Well if not for us he would take more than your tax dollars from you. I bet you are a Democrat as well.
1/20/2011 05:45:00 AM
i'm not afraid to face the animal, i don't pay taxes and i'm operate independently.
Chalkie
To the asshat who thinks our pensions are too big and/or why should he contribute to it:
1. I will not get social security.
2. I put into my own pension.
3. It is a benefit to entice people to do what I now see is a god-forsaken shit job.
4. Do you complain about paying for social benefits that the middle class will not get, but that those eligible for it never try to get off of its rolls?
5. Knowing what the "beneifts" are of "public service" why didn't you take the test to come on the job?
I say, "Fuck Emannuel!" He has made millions of dollars in very shady business dealings. He and the political machine are in control and they want more power and money. Mark my words when the courts give him the green light to stay on the ballot because he is a Chicago resident.
Well, fuck that. And speaking of residency, I'll keep my house in the city and buy one in the suburbs AND I BETTER STILL BE CONSIDERED A CHICAGO RESIDENT BECAUSE OF IT! If it is good enough for this ego-maniac Emmanuel to live elsewhere and be a resident, it should be good enough for me and for all other city employees.
But mark my words, the courts are afraid of Emmanuel and will rule in his favor, despite the law.
2 P O home in 008. Did not receive any ballots.
There are 17,000 FOP members not including Sgts, Lt, Capt and exempts. This doesnt include family members. GET OUT AND VOTE!!!! Remember Quin won the STATE election by under 20,000 votes and the Republican was supposed to win. You vote does count. Time to step up boys and girls....
So how many precincts, in how many wards do you actually think the police vote will sway? I cannot recall anybody in any district at any roll call ever, ever extolling the virtues of any politician. Nor do I recall any united backing of any candidate for any elected office...and that includes Jane Byrne. So why even bother. Imagine you're sitting at home and a copper from down the block stops by and asks you to vote for a candidate (yeah, like that would ever, ever happen). So in an election where you can estimate about 900,000 to 1 million total votes casts, how much do you think 13,000 to 25,000 (including family members voting)votes are going to make a difference. Pick a burb someplace, put the house up for sale, see how much your property values have dropped since your last re-fi and then see what job availabilities there are for coppers outside of the city. Good luck. Bottom line is we're all fucked.
"Although Mr. Emanuel has not yet publicly detailed his plan to confront the city’s perennial budget deficits and the severely underfinanced employee pension funds, he told union officials in a private meeting on Dec. 15 that he thought it could be necessary to cut the pensions of all employees, said people who attended the meeting."
-N.Y. Times, 08 Jan 11.
Did any FOP board members attend this meeting?
As you can see, the Times ran this the day after member ballots were due in to the lodge.
For those members who write that they marked their ballot for Emanuel, then discovered that he has our pension (and others') in his sights to destroy or dismantle: WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!
The man is filthy dirty, and any human animal with an inclination to endorse his candidacy or to vote him into office needs to be studied and journaled as an example of, "What Not to Become."
If you are an active member and want to vote for him, then please quit the job before doing so. Any member, expecting to retire with an adequate pension following a reasonable amount of time on-the-job served, should vote for any candidate other than Rahm Emanuel.
big mistake wahmbo gets elected and cpd will be taken big cuts in benefits , uniform allowance , duty availabilty , vacation time ,with reduction in pension benefits and higher pension contributions
FOP, we know you read this. The most important issue is our pension, yet no candidate has told us specifically what they plan to do to keep it solvent. How could you endorse a candidate without a firm promise to make sure we have our pensions. That is why so many people don't trust you. Much of what you do feels exactly like the way Daley operates...back-room deals without full disclosure. Now that you have endorsed Chico, make his spell out what he will do for the pension, or many of us may vote for someone else. Rahm, Carol, Miguel, only the FOP board voted for Chico. Tell the rest of us your plan for pension solvency, right here on the blog, if you want. Sell it to us, and you will get much support.
So FOP endorses CHICO and in return he endorses BELLA. What does that mean for contract negotiations?
1/20/2011 01:22:00 AM
It means you would be stoopid not to vote for Chico.
To the coppers bitching about everything,about the union,about how shields will change things open your eyes! What has the union FOP done for us? How about the 4 and 2, the 29 and a day pension, still have 365 medical days, Not taking any furlough days, got a raise (I know it should of been 90%),but times are tough! Lost nothing now what else do you want to bitch about?
Oh lets see,"we want residency gone" Wow you did not know you had to live here? that is like the idiots complaining about plane noise as they live near the airport! As for me going to retire soon raised 3 kids,last 1 in college all went to Notre Dame, son is now neurosurgeon,daughter is boss of financial company,last daughter is going into teaching. All raised in the city,attended catholic grammar/high schools and did well.
How? Well like most caring coppers,not hanging out in bars drinking,and throwing money away,working special,saving. It is what you make of it,your children are #1 take care of them,yes the city is changing but talk to coppers in other areas our section 8 shit is being shipped in and ruining great areas,as you pay 8-15 thousand a year in property taxes. So for all the younger "educated" coppers things are not always greener!!
Quit your bitching,try to make it the best you can,as far as shields he is a young copper with many ideas,but implementing them may be a major problem! God bless all of you be careful,be safe back each other up!!
Apparently members of intel unit 191 mist read this blog because almost an hour after the post went up the a ad a's were amended to show KB code 90 (bfd) and still sitting in preliminary status. A common ploy used when you want to wait and see if there is any fall out first. Only I was able to take a few poloroids if the screen BEFORE and AFTER it was changed.
Those of you that live in the 38th ward (Portage Park), don't vote for this yahoo Tom Cavarette for alderman. He is a big supporter of cutting current employee pension benefits.
What does Chico have to say about pensions??
I never got a ballot
Anonymous said...
I have not received a ballot, Have they gone out?
1/20/2011 10:50:00 AM
The FOP election of officers Election ballots will go out Feb 4th.
Expect them that week.
IMPORTANT!!!
If you do NOT get a ballot, at present, your ONLY option is to go vote IN PERSON on March 4, 2011, from 0900-1200 hours at FOP Hall, 1412 W. Washington.
That is all. Captain Video signing off.
I do not understand how they can endorse someone who has said nothing about his plans for our pensions.
Chico also supports the Dream Act and that's why he's being backed by Luis.
Wow, 26 years of this and still proud to be da police. Pay back the money you took from the pension since the start of the Dan Ryan and your stealing and the pension would be solvent. it blows the mind that the police and fire are responsible for all of this s..t. when actually all of these Govt asses receive 80% with no time involved. Check the amount of money payed to this group of monkey flem and then tell me it's because of us. By da way mayor i'm sure you didn't know about anything your family, friends, neighbors, doghandlers, aliens and anyone else in you camp did anything. You are the worst form of a human to sh.. on 2.7 million people. Enjoy your 7000 pensions and your general fund which would probably balance the debt here.
I haven't met anyone who ADMITS he is voting for Rahm, and the FOP poll is a dead-heat?
MSM has been pimping for Rahm but I don't see any evidence of support.
Any cop who votes for Rahm has a financial death wish.
I originally did not known who to vote for. Ballots were sent out too soon. After listening to that arrogant piece of shit Rham, and how he was going to restructure our pension, without question my support went to Chico.
.... I was able to take a few poloroids if the screen BEFORE and AFTER it was changed.
1/20/2011 04:27:00 PM
Next Christmas, you should ask Santa for a digital camera.
What would Clara Peller have said?
Look, I'm a civilian and I'm afraid I can't afford high pensions for you guys because I myself have no job and no pension. Where do you think money comes from, we can just get it by raiding the bags of gold in Scrooge McDuck's basement? It's time for everybody to get real.
Why dont you get off your ass and get a job. They are out there. You can go to an industry and receive 401K with matching contributions, we dont get that. Im not going to explain the merits of our pensions with you because frankly you sound kinda stupid and cant even find a job at mcdonalds apparently. There is money, the politicians find the excuse too easy and are using it. Daley was to fund the pensions and failed. Thats criminal, to not meet your obligations, we wouldnt be in this situation. There is alot of hidden money TIF, etc. Sold the city parking for 75 yrs., not our fault. Lost some of the pension money with bad real estate deals,not our fault. So yes I expect my pensin will be there, rightfully so!
And Im not even going to compare what a police officer does ea and every day vs. someone like you who apparently does NOTHING!!
I worked 20 yrs in a job w/ a pension. I had an option to work in the private industry and I chose this and now you believe politicians can turn their back on this obligation, no.
How about you work hard and pay a mortgage for 30 yrs and plan to retire and then the bank tells you we changed our mind we are not releasing your title, we need the money go fend for yourself.
I don't understand why the FOP has to stand behind someone. Shouldn't you stand behind any mayor that gets elected? I wonder how awkward it'll be when Chico doesn't win. Will that be bad for the FOP if our new mayor knows that you didn't support him during his campaign? Don't get screwed.
Yeah lets just shut up and take it. Are you really that clueless. Rahm wants to go after your pension. Hello anyone home
I love this line from John Kass' column of yesterday:
"A Chicago police officer must live within the city limits in order to keep his or her job. If they're found to be living outside the city, they're not invited to run for mayor. Instead, they run the risk of getting fired."
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Keep it up Mr Kass, let Rahm have it! Gery Chico needs all our help and support.
Anonymous said...
How can my wife and I vote for the Union election? Do we go to the FOP hall? CW!!
1/20/2011 01:51:00 AM
First of all you must be FOP members.
Second a ballot(s) will be mailed to your residence of record on or around Feb 4, 2011. Fill it out and mark down the Shields Team from the cards etc. that are circulating.
Then mail back immediately.
If you do not get a ballot, your only option is to vote in person at FOP Hall, 1412 W Washington, on March 4, 2011 from 0900-1200 hours.
Anonymous said...
I don't understand why the FOP has to stand behind someone. Shouldn't you stand behind any mayor that gets elected? I wonder how awkward it'll be when Chico doesn't win. Will that be bad for the FOP if our new mayor knows that you didn't support him during his campaign? Don't get screwed.
1/20/2011 09:37:00 AM
Are you missing some or all of your marbles? Are you saying FOP should support an outsider and non-resident who says he wants to cut our pension?
Hell no we won't stand in back of Rahm! In fact, fuck him right in his face!
FOP did not endorse Daley since 1991! We have a mutual hatred thing going with the outgoing mayor.
Not supporting a corrupt lying mayor is nothing new in Chicago. We have been doing it for years.
Never got a ballot in the mail either.
Heard on the radio that Rahm said that he never had plans on cutting city workers pensions?!
Look how quick that was.
Sad but all of them suck and we are fkd no matter who wins.
Kass has my vote for the next Sup. The fed thing didn't really work out.
I personally spoke to Carol Moseley Braun and I asked her point blank about our pensions. She told me that she will see to it that our pensions are left alone. Remember her brother is on the job and she is not from the 11th Ward.
17,000 ballots were sent out? I certainly didn't get mine. Not that I would have voted for that idiot Emanuel anyway. Of course, the fix is in regardless and he is going to win. Doesn't matter that he wasn't a resident for two years either.
To the coppers bitching about everything,about the union,about how shields will change things open your eyes! What has the union FOP done for us? How about the 4 and 2, the 29 and a day pension, still have 365 medical days, Not taking any furlough days, got a raise (I know it should of been 90%),but times are tough! Lost nothing now what else do you want to bitch about?
I couldn't have said it better than you. We are lucky to have what we have and I thank the union for fighting to keep what we have. I want someone in the union who is experienced in dealing with the city. Not slamming the Shields ticket, but none of them have fought the city for our contract.
As far as residency, I agree. We all knew when we were hired that we had to live in the city. Don't try to bitch about it now. If you wanted to live somewhere else, you should have taken another job.
Good luck to you in your retirement and stay safe.
I'm over the KB thing. Honestly, who cares? So she has a good spot. No different than anyone else on this job that gets good spots. I'm more concerned about our pension and benefit problems we are facing.
I'm concerned about who our mayor will be.
I'm concerned about the FOP election. I'm not anti anyone, but I must say, I'm going with experience for the FOP election. Anytime I have had a problem, the FOP has always answered my questions and calls. I'm not going to bitch about a 10% raise when most people are out of work.
Yes, I want crusty, old veterans with experience to fight for us when it comes time to deal with the city, so my vote is for Greg Bella.
maybe people did not vote... because it is a stupid ballot that does not mater.... I still do NOT know who i intend to vote for for mayor so why would i randomly check a name and send it in just to vote.... and once i make up my mind; it is going to be what i decide NOT who the fop tells me to vote for
Yes, I want crusty, old veterans with experience to fight for us when it comes time to deal with the city, so my vote is for Greg Bella.
1/21/2011 11:41:00 AM
what an oxymoronic statement this is.
FOP, we know you read this. The most important issue is our pension, yet no candidate has told us specifically what they plan to do to keep it solvent. How could you endorse a candidate without a firm promise to make sure we have our pensions. That is why so many people don't trust you.
__I'm with you! Chico has said NOTHING about his plans for our pension. How could FOP endorse him???? I don't trust this at all!
I don't trust this at all!
1/22/2011 08:23:00 PM
sorta how i feel about your comment.
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