Big Change - No More TRU or MSF
- BREAKING NEWS!!!
This just in. . .
MSF & TRU disbanded under the guise of a 90 day detail. AMFN#111702 reads as follows:
"Full duty personnel with title codes 9161, 9171, and 9173 assigned and not detailed out of either MSF or TRU will be detailed to one of the following districts: 003, 004, 005, 006, 007, 008, 011 and 015. Personnel must submit a PAR form to their Unit of Assignment by 0800 hours on Wednesday, 25 MAY 11."
"Personnel will be selected by seniority and reverse seniority will be used to fill unused vacancies. Personnel who do not submit a PAR form will be assigned at the discretion of the department."
We'll confess that we thought McCarthy was going to eliminate one of these units based on the simple fact that their missions were pretty much redundant. Eliminating both was a surprise and makes us wonder what other spots are about to get gored. A couple of questions:
- Does this eliminate any exempt spots? We're still way too top heavy and all of these gold stars running their own little fiefs needs to stop;
- Who is going to become the city wide response unit? You need a pool of officers that you can move about at a moment's notice regardless of contract restrictions. You will get volunteers for this, regardless, but who? The rumors are running fast and furious that GEU is next on the block. Are the Area Chiefs about to start fielding Saturation Teams again that will step into this role?
For too long, the Department has lost sight of the fact that everyone else exists to support Patrol. The function of the Department as a whole is to answer calls regarding crime and disorder. If you lose that (and it can be argued that we have for years now), you lose the direction and purpose of the organization.
An interesting beginning, that's for sure.
An interesting beginning, that's for sure.
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400 Comments:
Disaster in the making. Next GMack will disband FOP and send them back to the streets.
They can stay where they are. I dont feel like hearing the bitchin and cryin!
Ahhh, the Rahm-father pulling the strings to attain a goal of 1000 officers on the street..... The sad part is that the citizens believe the bullshit of smoke and mirrors!! Guess what citizens, these new officers coming from these units have been there the entire time... McCarthy is another Weis, make no doubt about it..... A puppet!!!
Enjoy the shell game, Suckers!!
Are we going to relive the bloody summer of 2008 after jfled ordered SOS disbanded? Funny how crime spiked that year enough so that the following year he brought the unit back as MSF and they did enough work to warrant another useless crime reduction ribbon. Instead of wiping out both units, he could have kept one for immediate redeployment and response and done a quick reorganization of our dispatch policy and wiped out half o the bullshit we respond to now. That in itself would reduce the backlogs and free up police for patrol. That would be worthy of a ribbon! Now who exactly will be sent all over the city handling the "bulls celebrations?"
This is welcome news. Help has definitely been needed on the watch. We have been so thin that supervisors (some definitely goofs) have point blank stated in rollcall, "Put the blinders on today and ignore those felony dope arrests." I'm sure guys will be disgruntled, but you're still the police and you can still make quality arrests. Unfortunately you'll also have to take the time to ride on the crazed domestics. Welcome back!
With all these new officers, when are they going to make Sgts. & Dets.???????? What a joke of a department!!
How many years has it been now??
continued... This is just fulfilling rahms promise of a thousand police on the beat. More city hall micromanaging.
So at least 45 officers will be going to each of these districts.
Glad too see this happen, we in 003 need the help. Our resources of police have been so depleted, there is no one willing to do the job. I know the folks that are coming back are going to be bitter. But I also know the majority are the POLICE and it will be a welcomed sight too see them backing me up on whatever I maybe on, be it street stop or domestic. We don't get the help we use to in 003.
So thanks McSup.
geu is gonna get rid of about 50-80 bodies and will now pretty much take a multi role of gang enforcement/citywide response.
still saw some msf cars out there doing it. just got chopped today and 6 of them in there doing a one bag weed arrest. you really should go out on a low note and relax before your thrown back into the bullshit we deal with in patrol. no need to keep getting that work done for the man. weather your the "real police" or not in msf take it easy for a few days.
Well, OCD is on the chopping block next. Just my 2 cents, but its time to make the lieutenants earn their pay. Im safe where im at by both seniority and activity, but making cuts from OCD by reverse seniority is a cop-out.
Have each team give up 2 guys, and maybe consolidate teams. This way, you still can keep team chemistry, and each team can get rid if their dogs. The seargants all know who they would get rid of if they could, have each Sgt submit 2 names to the LT, and let the LT make the final decision.
I know a lot of guys in OCD with 6-10 years on who LITERALLY CARRY THEIR TEAMS, and deserve their spots who would be cut, and I know some guys in OCD who are unfit to be janitors at the station who would get to stay.
Reward the workers who produce for a change. Let the dogs be dogs in a district, don't reward them with unit spots.
I don't know if disbanding them all together was a good idea, but 4 for god damn sure needs MUCH more patrol and if this means that, then I'm for it.
Too many sheep (the old folks in Hegewisch) surrounded by wolves from the neighboring dirtbag ghettos.
WOW Gmack I love this guy already.. Jodi could not hold your ball sack. Get Rid of Kirby and you will regain the working police. She was and is a FED lover cop hater.
So the Dist. Level gets help, but the Det. division gets another season of heat being swamped..... Hello,
it's been close to 4 years now without a class being made!!!
Oh, I forgot, budget crisis!! Right!!
Sorry citizens , nothing to see here !!!
Please move along....
Just the beginning. GEU is next. Some of Homan, Public trans, Academy, and Marine Unit too.
welcome to 003!
Wow I can't believe it went down this way. A reliable source in 5th dist front office told me that it was going to be a merger by marriage between TRU and MSF. It would then become a fight between the units to breed each other out and see which unit came out on top. Though the Commanders of TRU and MSF could still evoke "jus primae noctis" Hang on to those TRU "we rock the DOC" T-shirts and MSF pins they are collectors items now! Mine are going in the CPD GMACK time capsule not to be seen for another 3 years. Going back south wouldn't be so bad if Jays were still open :(
This "90 day detail" will be like the B&A detail last summer. It will only be temporary until it becomes permanent...around the 65th day. FOP said that was only a temp detail. Were they lying or taken?? Inquiring minds want to know....
The City/Department got away with this on the B&A detail. FOP did the "Sgt. Schultz" on it and it flew. But that was only 11. The City/Department did that as a trial run, it flew, so that is how it goes from here on out.
Don't bother filing a grievance. Article 4, Management Rights include the right to change the configuration of the Department. As long as it is done by seniority, they are OK.
Any one that thinks the bosses don't read this blog is silly. As does the public. There were too many posts of MSF & TRU taking 2 hour lunches and being smug about it. Hope they enjoyed it while it lasted. Because now it is 30 minutes....if you get one at all. And now you will have to work with on the same level all those lowly unclouted beat coppers that you thought you were so superior to.
The Department will bring back this type of unit. They have to because they need it. It just got out of hand and the easiest way to tame it is to beat it down.
You can still be the police in a beat car. Answering calls for service, while it may not be glamorous, is still police work.
Let me get this straight: based on the article, IF the officers that are sent back to patrol do well enough and impact crime, THEN their units will be disbanded?
ha, ha, ha....
look for these officers to be a bit jaded and not do shit!
Not knowing what you'll be doing in 90 days doesn't seem to help "morale"
Morale?!? what the hell does that word even mean these days...
...my Magic 8-Ball is a possible solution to crime short of hiring more police and EVEN THAT, won't change the criminal breeding that is going on
With summer around the corner, who will respond when things go crazy in the districts? Us beat guys make fun of msf and tru but they do serve a purpose. it would have been better to eliminate one but both isnt a good idea in my opinion. I bet that the guys and gals coming to those shit districts will be still ready to work wont they...the department does what it wants, when it wants. My opinion is that they got screwed, not even a super bid to decent tax paying parts of this city. Brothers and sisters welcome back, dont worry many of us understand that you got screwed on this one.
Well, I'm impressed by the report that McSupe delivered the news in person, at roll call.
Good move. No thief-in-the-night last minute fax, just a genuinely decent act.
So will the guys coming from this unit keep working or just answer calls?
It sucks boo hoo it was a good run in tru. But in my oppinion he just came in and made the same fatal flaw jodi did. You can't fix something if you don't know what is broke. If that was what needed to be done and im not saying it didn't then it happened way to soon. You need to know what your working with before you change things. In a city this big you need a large mobile unit that can be deployed at a moments notice. Is he keeping geu? Are they going to pick up the slack? Problem geu is spread across the city in different areas and are civilian dressed and doesent have the numbers that tru or msf did. We did not need both that was a major f up by jodi but we need one. It doesn't even matter for me I can be the police any where and do my job. Bottom line is we need to hire a bunch more officers this is a big smoke and mirror act to cover for the fact that romulin can't add the 1000 officers to the streets that he promised. All these officers were already on the street during peek crime hours. But certain districts will get a dozen or so more officers spread across 3 watches and 7 day off goups. Way to go romulin and mccrotchy. You added one more car to a watch to be tied down on a paper job during a back log.
I feel bad for the people that went to these units thinking that it was going to last forever. Maybe they didn't realize the city was using them, but now they're stuck in a lousy district with few bidding opportunities to try and get into better districts.
Hire more officers you didn't do shit. We still wont be able tp keep up with the jobs get a day off or a lunch!
I can't stop laughing...........
After summer detail you'll see the remaining unit either MSF or TRU being broken up into 5 separate platoons one for each Area and then a 6th platoon to be used as a floating platoon to cover RDO'S or whatever needs are.
Great! now we'll have more pissed off officers who will NOT be answering calls and giving a helping hand to the beat guys. I hope the sup. understands that this is NOT NY. We do not have the man-power/ resources like they do nor the support of the community like they do. Does this mean we'll have a transit unit and a undercover pedestrian unit like NY? Is special gone for most of the people who rely on them after getting screwed on the contract? $30 per hour summer events? On a serious note, will "dogs" get punished finally? Or will they continue to get paid the same money to do nothing? Wonder how they deal with that in NY.
Rahm promised 1000. Thats only 500. 250 more from other units and 250 will enter the academy as recruits eventually. Watch 250 more people from GEU and other units before mid June. Meetings and emails on this topic daily between the Sups office and Patrol.
If you stock patrol the way it's designed to be you don't need a citywide response team!! Isn't that what we've been saying this whole time??!!!! Are you flip flopping SCC or am I missing something?
I absolutely can't wait to hear the war stories told by these prodigal TRU & MSF Superstars.
I fully expect to be regaled with tales running the entire gamut of "elite" day-to-day goings on:
Surveilling restaurants in hopes of finding those that are half off and haven't been "B.U." (cool cop abbreviation) by other cheap coppers. Occupying these establishments for hours, watching games on the HD flat screens, ruining the owner's turn-over rate...and then tipping $12 on a 10 person bill.
Adding ever more pockets to their vest carriers to accommodate the constant accumulation of nonsensical and unnecessary gadgetry.
Asinine explanations as to why they not only didn't stop to back-up "mere beat cars" on traffic stops, but oftentimes never slowed down to even acknowledge or make eye contact with those officers.
Deciding which of the eight "Assisting Officers" is going to perp-walk the 3 bag weed pinch to lockup while a few of the others don black hoodies and "hit tips" (more cool cop lingo) in the arrestee's impounded vehicle... all while the tow driver is simultaneously asking the desk crew who'll sign the Tow Report "GOA".
Then there's always the constant trials and tribulations regarding hair gel. Which has the best hold...which is easier to apply...which doesn't flake after wearing a skullcap embroidered with the MSF Lightening Bolts.
Welcome back, guys and gals! Your return signifies the beginning of a trend (hopefully) that will give us slugs pushing beat cars a much needed breather. It's going to be a lot harder coming in 6 or 8-deep to process two measly DOPW arrests - things HAVE changed in the short time you've been away.
By the way, this "90 day detail" floated past you guys by the Super is more smoke & mirrors - you're just not aware of it quite yet. Many of you jilted Superstars will vow not to do a damned thing once returned to the districts; the reality is that a single arrest need not be made during that 90 day detail...you WILL stay in districts once it's been determined by the powers that be that your glorious return has proven "effective" in the grand scheme of things.
There's going to be a reincarnation of some type of citywide unit that'll respond to events at the drop of a hat, but 95% of you won't be part of that team. Seniority is back en vogue, while clout and phone calls are going to be put on the back burner...at least temporarily.
Try not to wreck my Crown Vic while I'm on furlough July and August.
Nice hat trick but can we hire another 1000 or more officers that doesn't really help us.
No word of them getting rid of that joke of a crystal ball unit?
"For too long, the Department has lost sight of the fact that everyone else exists to support Patrol."
Amen! Now try convincing all of the support units of their supporting role!
THAT LAST PARAGRAPH SUMS IT UP. NOW, CAN I GET AN EVENT NUMBER?
What happens to the commanders? Career service rank? I bet the commander of tru lands on his feet beings as his cuz was boys with gm in nypd.
The MSF guy that was telling everyone to go to hell cause "the city needs them" must be in shock and curled up in the fetal position right about now.
"Who is going to become the city wide response unit? You need a pool of officers that you can move about at a moment's notice regardless of contract restrictions."
We still have GEU and SWAT, right? Maybe them. That, or maybe we're going to be calling a lot of Plans in order to get the influx of personnel to where they're needed.
We can always take the tactical teams from 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, & 23, right? The taxpayers don't need that "extra" police service!
Intel next less than 30 POs and a Cmdr WTF!! Do nothing CDR with Blago Clout
not tryin to sling mud towards anyone in msf or tru but this was a long time coming for another reason that is not so public. Many people in the department and in city offices have been very concerned with these two units legally. Corp council has had a large number of lawsuits that have been filed against officers of msf. The problem is that corp council is running into massive roadblocks the paper is atrocious and poorly written and as one of the guys at corp council told me it is elementary. When they looked at all of the lawsuits filed in the city some outragous number like 70 percent were filed against officers of msf and tru.. the reason corp council is so pissed is because the paper is redundant and when the civil lawyers bring in the past 20 arrests that officer wrote for the same crime they almost read the same.... well, that doesnt look good to a jury, or to anyone else for that matter... just saying, maybe its a good thing this thing got nipped in the bud before another scandal.
What contractual issues does filling out a PAR form present?
Isn't a PAR form a "voluntary" request to move?
Are you better off being "assigned
at the discretion of the department"?
If you do a par form, you will not be able to bid out for a year.
area saturation teams are back... three area teams will be back.. two third watch teams and a midnight tact team will be coming back.. so 450 people going to 8 districts equals about 54 bodies for those 8 districts. 30 more bodies back to the area... once again, rob peter to pay paul.
313R. i just on viwed a domestic. send me a paper car
disp. 313r you are the paper car. hahahaha
Bye bye Roussell!
Am I to understand that 10 hour days will be yanked from these officers after June 23? If thats true then what a bogus move. People had plans based on this schedule such as weddings, family parties and etc. If this is the manner in which the new Supe treats hard working police officers, then he should be aware that he just made 500+ POs into dogs. Not a good start
Rumors that Public Transportation Section will be disbanded and taken over by districts.
Don't stop at these two units...there are others as well. Time to get back to the basics of policing.
I said ha ha
i guess geu is the new msf
I'm sure the bashing and "I told you so" will begin. lets remember that were ONE dept and need to stick together and back each other up. I do feel bad for most of these officers cause they were told one thing now will prob have to drive 30 miles to get to work. I think the dept really just screwed you and used this 90 day detail to get around the super bid until after summer. Just remember things change and try to keep your head up. not all of us think you were young know it alls. many officers from tru with over 10yrs. on the job. Again officers try to see the better side even after this low blow.
o.t. but this is what matters not msf, tru etc, we may have no pensions if state bankrupts and defalts....
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This new boss sucks!!! He thinks that patroling the bronx for a few years is the shit. He had an inside track for promotions (captain with only 10 years on the job). This was a big mistake. The department needs a unit with that is flexiable. A unit that can cover the taste, the 3rd of july, bud budlikan, and hot spots within certain districts. Disbanding these units only leaves certain areas up for grabs because now we dont have the manpower to saturate. This is what happens when you promote people who dont make multiple arrest or go to court on a regular basis.
Oh don't laugh now kids. Some of the seniority from these PO's is well beyond ten years. That means your cushy little spot on 2nd or 3rd watch could belong to them in no time.
Also we hear McSup is eye balling Gang Enforcement next. That's another 400 policemen or so. Narcotics supposedly has to cough up 125 bodies as well. Midnights in 007 is looking nice now isn't it
He told everyone at the meeting that he was going to use the hard working coppers of these units to "shame" the dogs in the districts. Hahahahahahaha ! As the wise Sgt at the meeting said "You can't turn a dog into a working copper, but you can turn a working copper into a dog". That's all he's going to accomplish. Say what you want about weis. He hammered coppers who F***ed up severely, but at least he also rewarded hard work. This Sup doesn't seem to give a shit about them. You can't screw workers and then try to tell them that you care about them. It doesn't work that way. The proof is in the pudding !
back to a beat car...or will it be a new form of "tact' or "gangs" or "saturation" or "gun team"..whatever, welcome back (for 90 days) lets get thru the summer together
closed the near north high school 1450 N. Larabee and send those officers back to patrol and 3,7,8, district asap.
About time....almost wish I wouldnt have left CPD last year. Nothing is gonna save the pension and the actual city and state. Prepare yourselves.
Hope everyone is as happy when we kick you off your watches and take away your furlough selections. Enjoy your summer!
They can stay where they are. I dont feel like hearing the bitchin and cryin!
You're the one bitchin and cryin, that's why were coming back.
If you stock patrol the way it's designed to be you don't need a citywide response team!! Isn't that what we've been saying this whole time??!!!! Are you flip flopping SCC or am I missing something?
You're missing something. Even back in the days of the MLK riots and the original DNC riots, there were 6 Task Forces assigned to the areas. We personally have never deviated from a city-wide response unit theory. We didn't believe you needed three separate ones like MSF, TRU and GEU. And Area Task Forces would give the Department more localized flexibility. We have to see how it plays out.
Are we going to relive the bloody summer of 2008 after jfled ordered SOS disbanded?
For the record, Dana Starks disbanded SOS in 2007, not JFED.
So at least 45 officers will be going to each of these districts.
Glad too see this happen, we in 003 need the help. Our resources of police have been so depleted, there is no one willing to do the job. I know the folks that are coming back are going to be bitter. But I also know the majority are the POLICE and it will be a welcomed sight too see them backing me up on whatever I maybe on, be it street stop or domestic. We don't get the help we use to in 003.
So thanks McSup.
You must be the lone officer in 3 that actually works.
Try not to wreck my Crown Vic while I'm on furlough July and August.
Hope you liked your July and August furlough this year, because we'll be taking it from you next year.
•Who is going to become the city wide response unit? You need a pool of officers that you can move about at a moment's notice regardless of contract restrictions.
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All those kids from MSF and TRU can still be moved at any time it's desired.
I'll tell ya a lot of hate all around here. I've been in TRU not very long, and I have no problem going back to the district. It was a good gig while it lasted, but all good things come to an end. I don't have much time on the job, so I don't feel very jaded. The only thing I care about in this crap hole city is that us blue shirts have each others back when the shit hits the fan, and I hope next year in D.C. we aren't putting any more members names on the wall. Be safe all.
Reward the workers who produce for a change. Let the dogs be dogs in a district, don't reward them with unit spots.
I just don't get it. Are you that afraid of being back in a district? Will answering a domestic call lower your self esteem?
How does having 6 coppers down on a 1 bag weed arrest make you better than the average district officer?
Please, get over yourself. The uniform you wear says CHICAGO POLICE, not SPECIAL POLICE. Do your time back in the district and wait for the next opportunity to get back onto another team. Hopefully you didn't use up your one phone call to get to where you are about to leave.
I don't know how long you have on but if you waste that time crying and moaning about being in a district, brother you will drive yourself ( and all others around you) crazy.
Suck it up guys. First lesson to learn on this job is 'nothing lasts forever.' That includes asshole bosses and good spots. I've outlasted a lot of asshole W/C's and D/C's, and enjoyed my time in a unit when I got it.
Most important, you still have the 1st and the 16th, and you can still have fun anywhere you go, as long as you're open to it.
Disaster in the making. Next GMack will disband FOP and send them back to the streets.
5/24/2011 12:07:00 AM
Easy dork.
With these two units gone then the crystal ball unit should be too. I mean who do you now redeploy to the future murder scene? District cars will still be down on the " cat in the tree" calls.
Are you better off being "assigned
at the discretion of the department"?
5/24/2011 01:23:00 AM
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It is better off if you want to be assigned to 003.
Well, OCD is on the chopping block next. Just my 2 cents, but its time to make the lieutenants earn their pay. Im safe where im at by both seniority and activity, but making cuts from OCD by reverse seniority is a cop-out.
Have each team give up 2 guys, and maybe consolidate teams. This way, you still can keep team chemistry, and each team can get rid if their dogs. The seargants all know who they would get rid of if they could, have each Sgt submit 2 names to the LT, and let the LT make the final decision.
I know a lot of guys in OCD with 6-10 years on who LITERALLY CARRY THEIR TEAMS, and deserve their spots who would be cut, and I know some guys in OCD who are unfit to be janitors at the station who would get to stay.
Reward the workers who produce for a change. Let the dogs be dogs in a district, don't reward them with unit spots.
5/24/2011 12:23:00 AM
Sounds like your low on seniority.... 6-10 years? Let me guess.... your carrying the team but only have 6 years.....hmmmmm Your gone! Cry baby
Funny how crime spiked that year enough so that the following year he brought the unit back as MSF and they did enough work to warrant another useless crime reduction ribbon.
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Speaking of funny, you are such a comedian. I've haven't laughed so hard in a long time until I read this sentence, thanks.
Am I to understand that 10 hour days will be yanked from these officers after June 23? If thats true then what a bogus move. People had plans based on this schedule such as weddings, family parties and etc. If this is the manner in which the new Supe treats hard working police officers, then he should be aware that he just made 500+ POs into dogs. Not a good start
LOL...Man up! Your a prime example of whats wrong with that Unit. Who do u think you are?
Business as usual was a disaster in CPD. I think we can agree that this is not business as usual.
This will be interesting. Now, if he can just kill the politics in the Department.......
YES !!!!
They are going to the districts that need help. The only reason it will not be an improvement is if the cry babies lie down. So shut up get in your car and go handle that domestic junior....
ot/ read this article- it is about detroit, but describes how illinois is perfectly. the writer used to be a host from Chicago.http://www.torontosun.com/2011/05/20/agar-how-toronto-can-avoid-becoming-detroit
Are we going to relive the bloody summer of 2008 after jfled ordered SOS disbanded? Funny how crime spiked that year enough so that the following year he brought the unit back as MSF and they did enough work to warrant another useless crime reduction ribbon. Instead of wiping out both units, he could have kept one for immediate redeployment and response and done a quick reorganization of our dispatch policy and wiped out half o the bullshit we respond to now. That in itself would reduce the backlogs and free up police for patrol. That would be worthy of a ribbon! Now who exactly will be sent all over the city handling the "bulls celebrations?"
5/24/2011 12:12:00 AM
That's an easy answer The Tactical Teams - like they used to in past. It worked fine. MSF was never and will never be
like the old SOS.
Its an unexpected and great move. It all starts with the mundane tasks a simple patrolman performs. The nonsense about not having a citywide response team is insane,every watch has cars designated as "Incident Response Car" thats all you need. Enjoy your 30 minute lunches boys.
Great! now we'll have more pissed off officers who will NOT be answering calls and giving a helping hand to the beat guys.
-Like MSF and TRU did much - the first 4hours of there start was just that - there start time. They spent about 30-45 min in roll call, then they go and workout for about 2 hours, then a 2 hour lunch, finally out on street. Yeah they will be pissed off to be held down on the radio - "Doing their job for once"
Are we going to relive the bloody summer of 2008 after jfled ordered SOS disbanded? Funny how crime spiked that year enough so that the following year he brought the unit back as MSF ....
5/24/2011 12:12:00 AM
Dana Starks disbanded S.O.S. when he was the interim superintendent. Weis was a stroke, but that was done by Starks on orders from Daley.
Anonymous said...
This new boss sucks!!! He thinks that patroling the bronx for a few years is the shit. He had an inside track for promotions (captain with only 10 years on the job). This was a big mistake. The department needs a unit with that is flexiable. A unit that can cover the taste, the 3rd of july, bud budlikan, and hot spots within certain districts. Disbanding these units only leaves certain areas up for grabs because now we dont have the manpower to saturate. This is what happens when you promote people who dont make multiple arrest or go to court on a regular basis.
5/24/2011 03:51:00 AM
I heard a rumor he only did like 20 years on NYPD than retired. I would love that deal.
Thank you sir, may I have another!!
Ok before people start wrinting B.S. I work in MSF and understand that the districts will need help and I have no problems or complaints. I will not be bitter and will work like I always do. This is what most guys are saying.......
What am I going to do now with my sooper cool MSF tattoo on my arm? This sux!
Anonymous said...
They can stay where they are. I dont feel like hearing the bitchin and cryin!
5/24/2011 12:11:00 AM
Don't worry tuff guy there is an evaluation system coming that will make you miserable too.
To the Dana starks lover: do you actually think that clown made the decision to disband SOS? He was the hatchet man for the incoming supt jfled. That's why he was rewarded with the made up commissioner of human relations post.
I can't stop laughing...........
5/24/2011 12:45:00 AM
lol
Boo hoo, there were so many people in those units that didn't know their ass from their elbow and now they are going to be upset? P.O.'s with 3 yrs on the job who have been there for a year already, and the nephews and nieces of bosses who now have to write case reports. hope you all enjoyed it while it lasted. no more wolf-packing it to the station on an 1811. Some of the p.o.'s I give credit too, others needed this call back down to earth.
Any word on safe city??/
I can't believe this happened. I am a hard working, aggressive, dynamic officer. I worked hard and brought in good numbers for this department. And this is the thanks I get? Supt. McCarthy you are making a big mistake in disbanding us. We are the sharp edge of the spear. Plus you are sending us young MSF officers to the far south side.
I absolutely can't wait to hear the war stories told by these prodigal TRU & MSF Superstars.
I fully expect to be regaled with tales running the entire gamut of "elite" day-to-day goings on:
Surveilling restaurants in hopes of finding those that are half off and haven't been "B.U." (cool cop abbreviation) by other cheap coppers. Occupying these establishments for hours, watching games on the HD flat screens, ruining the owner's turn-over rate...and then tipping $12 on a 10 person bill.
Adding ever more pockets to their vest carriers to accommodate the constant accumulation of nonsensical and unnecessary gadgetry.
Asinine explanations as to why they not only didn't stop to back-up "mere beat cars" on traffic stops, but oftentimes never slowed down to even acknowledge or make eye contact with those officers.
Deciding which of the eight "Assisting Officers" is going to perp-walk the 3 bag weed pinch to lockup while a few of the others don black hoodies and "hit tips" (more cool cop lingo) in the arrestee's impounded vehicle... all while the tow driver is simultaneously asking the desk crew who'll sign the Tow Report "GOA".
Then there's always the constant trials and tribulations regarding hair gel. Which has the best hold...which is easier to apply...which doesn't flake after wearing a skullcap embroidered with the MSF Lightening Bolts.
Welcome back, guys and gals! Your return signifies the beginning of a trend (hopefully) that will give us slugs pushing beat cars a much needed breather. It's going to be a lot harder coming in 6 or 8-deep to process two measly DOPW arrests - things HAVE changed in the short time you've been away.
By the way, this "90 day detail" floated past you guys by the Super is more smoke & mirrors - you're just not aware of it quite yet. Many of you jilted Superstars will vow not to do a damned thing once returned to the districts; the reality is that a single arrest need not be made during that 90 day detail...you WILL stay in districts once it's been determined by the powers that be that your glorious return has proven "effective" in the grand scheme of things.
There's going to be a reincarnation of some type of citywide unit that'll respond to events at the drop of a hat, but 95% of you won't be part of that team. Seniority is back en vogue, while clout and phone calls are going to be put on the back burner...at least temporarily.
Try not to wreck my Crown Vic while I'm on furlough July and August.
5/24/2011 01:09:00 AM
LMAO!!!!......I'm from MSF and this is some funny shit! In all honesty, I'm glad to be coming back to the district. I just feel bad for the guys from the sweet districts (018,001,014) and now they're gonna be going south for a very long time.
No worry's at least the pension will be there for you.
Makes perfect sense....
King Daley gets 22 police officers and two cars for the rest of his life. Because he was a Mayor.... He needs a security team larger than most departments in Illinios? A guy that belongs in prison for years of corruption, instead gets 22 CPD officers for life.
These changes come after Mayor Rahm Emanuel has repeatedly said he wants to get 1,000 more police officers on the streets by shifting experienced personnel from desk jobs
And replace them with who????
Been hearing this for the past 30 years!
This just in : Portillo's to file for chapter 11 management blames new Chicago cop boss. Cmdr K.R. responds with a load of New York style hotdogs for the new supt. in hopes of getting a ditrict tact team somewhere.
McCarthy is off to a good start , he just got the respect from all district police officers,tru & msf
disbanded means officers will no longer have 1 hr roll call 1 to 2 hr lunches , patrol high crime district for about an hr and then time to drive back to office
he just increased msf & tru work day by 80%
now if he can eliminate some exempts that have less than 100 officers assigned to them and put a sgt in charge of small units
keep up the good work Boss
you're the 1st one to have the back of district law enforcement in a long time
thank you
One thing is certain, seniority is back bitches! To the guy crying about plans in the summer and 10 hour days, too bad. 7a furlos, kiss them goodbye. It's only fair cause people like me worked and never complained when I had less then 10 years. You knew the rules when you were hired, if you don't like them go cry to our knowledge 10 year FOP President.
Signed
The old guy with over 20.
Rumors that Public Transportation Section will be disbanded and taken over by districts.
5/24/2011 01:49:00 AM
Amen to that. On Zone 4, "take the disturbance in the subway, no Mass Transit units available" happens constantly. Where the f**k are they?
MSF and TRU was glorified from the beginning, it's time to unite not divide. And by the way, MSF and TRU for the most part was a joke anyway.
closed the near north high school 1450 N. Larabee and send those officers back to patrol and 3,7,8, district asap.
5/24/2011 04:19:00 AM
MAN, you've really got a hard on for the instructors over there, huh? Why? You post this same shit everyday!
The training in that building is some of the most useful I've seen in my 20 years. Did you get dumped from there or something?
The ten hour day ends saturday, the first day of new detail is sunday, under the 4 and 2 schedule...
I can wait for newspaper article saying new boss and new mayor put 500 more officers on the street. Wait, they were already on the street. New boss, same BS. Didn't Rham say he was going to HIRE 1000 new cops?
(OT) More when animals attack this in New York,but notice they never say the race of offenders watch video those dam swedish!
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/pack-of-teens-trash-dunkin-donuts-20110523-lgf
Scared Leo I mean Lt. Schmitz and take your little dog Kenny with you!!!!
Why only a select few districts? I work in 009 and we're very busy and quite understaffed. I'd say 009 is pretty similar to Englewood but the boundaries are much larger.
I like to see bodies headed to the districts but they need to be spread out better.
Welcome back, guys and gals! Your return signifies the beginning of a trend (hopefully) that will give us slugs pushing beat cars a much needed breather. It's going to be a lot harder coming in 6 or 8-deep to process two measly DOPW arrests - things HAVE changed in the short time you've been away.
By the way, this "90 day detail" floated past you guys by the Super is more smoke & mirrors - you're just not aware of it quite yet. Many of you jilted Superstars will vow not to do a damned thing once returned to the districts; the reality is that a single arrest need not be made during that 90 day detail...you WILL stay in districts once it's been determined by the powers that be that your glorious return has proven "effective" in the grand scheme of things.
There's going to be a reincarnation of some type of citywide unit that'll respond to events at the drop of a hat, but 95% of you won't be part of that team. Seniority is back en vogue, while clout and phone calls are going to be put on the back burner...at least temporarily.
Try not to wreck my Crown Vic while I'm on furlough July and August.
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If officers do have a morale problem it is clowns like this guy who are part of the problem. People want to leave the district because they are sick of hearing guys like this bitch and tell stories of when the west side was the west side. I hope I dont have to work with a know nothing know it all like this who only seems to be happy when other coppers get screwed.
What happens to the title codes 9152 in unit 153? Where will they be assigned?
Hope everyone is as happy when we kick you off your watches and take away your furlough selections. Enjoy your summer!
5/24/2011 04:26:00 AM
Yeah, not really worried about that. Most of you hard chargers in MFS and TRU have less than 5 years anyways. Thanks for bumping up my seniority. More in the district now under me!
Damn, I work in a district NOT listed and we need more people too. Can't get a day off, nost of the watch is 99, and watch commanders breathe fire down your neck on an arrest that goes into OT
Rumors that Public Transportation Section will be disbanded and taken over by districts.
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Tell me when a Public trans unit was EVER available to handle a job!!
For all you msf or tru superheroes, stop it already with the "Hope everyone is as happy when we kick you off your watches and take away your furlough selections. Enjoy your summer!" and plus watch assighments, I work in lockup in a f@#*d up district, believe me you can take my position any time.
Aren't MSF and TRU already working the majority of the time in the exact same districts that they intend to reassign them? Seems like a little circumlocution to me.
Oh don't laugh now kids. Some of the seniority from these PO's is well beyond ten years. That means your cushy little spot on 2nd or 3rd watch could belong to them in no time.
Exactly!
Oh don't laugh now kids. Some of the seniority from these PO's is well beyond ten years. That means your cushy little spot on 2nd or 3rd watch could belong to them in no time.
And lest we forget the tact guys who are about to lose their spots to guys who've been there and done that.
Kick me off my watch and take away my furlough? LMAO ok kid 2400 west 1200 south 4800 west 1200 north ..beat maps are in the top drawer.
Rumors about Public Trans being disbanded are false. We have a Sgt. and an Lt. in TRU bragging they are being reassigned to Public Transportation. The clout-baby Sgt is going on the 4th Watch and the Lt. is going on the 2nd Watch. WTF
This new boss sucks!
The department needs a unit with that is flexiable. A unit that can cover the taste, the 3rd of july, bud budlikan, and hot spots within certain districts.
Um, you DO understand that the Taste, the 3rd, and Bud Biliken have all been around loooooooong before there was ever an MFS or TRU, right? And guess what? The dept always managed to cover them.
So ShutTheFuckUp, grab a fuckin beat tag, and I'll see you out there.
Organized Crime and the Detail Section will be next.
Look for a streamlined Public Transportation Section.
G-Mac and Tiny-Dance 9.5 are going with the recommendations of Wasserman.
This guy's got my vote. My partner & I have been saying for years, it doesn't help sending every specialized unit under the sun to a district when they are calling for paper cars from the district every 5 minutes. These beat cars need help. Period. Not the kind of help that means a caravan of 5 yr wonders descending on a hot call then disappearing when there is no easy head to take in and milk for 3 hours, or their 2 hour dinner club is calling. Sorry kids, maybe after you've had a few more years under your super-light nylon duty belt, you'll realize that there is no such thing as a permanent cushy spot. Your number will be pulled eventually. Your number has been pulled.
1. For all the idiots out there ........ The city will still be able to staff all the events without stroke force TRU. It's what we used to call a detail in the good old days. People will volunteer or be picked by reverse seniority, no big fuckin deal.
2. If a change in assignment makes you a dog, then you always were a dog. A guy/girl with pride and work ethic will still maintain those qualities.
3. 4-8 people in on 3 bags and an impound was not stellar police work, no matter who was serving that kool aid. These "units" were a piss poor use of resource.
Level Homan Square! I would like too see how elite hair gel pooliceee..... handle 20 jobs a night!
it's not fair i bid from 22 so i could be the real police , have 2 hour lunches and go home early a few nights a week , now i'll be stuck in 6 answering radio assignments and working a full tour with only 30 min lunch
Typical whining "two year wonders"! You act like you're the first unit that's ever been disbanded or coppers getting dumped. GROW THE FK UP! NOTHING LASTS FOREVER!
We used to have all kinds of units and details that we knew would eventually come to an end. eg; The old area mission teams, gun teams, skip teams, the old SOG, SOS, etc, etc, etc...
So quit your whining and just do the damned job you were hired to do! The rest of the Patrol Div. is tired of hearing your shit. I've known coppers working beat cars that SET RECORDS recovering guns and dope. The fancy "ninja turtle" uniforms and titles don't make a good cop. A good cop makes the uniform!
So, if you all think you're so good in your lil specialized units, then you should be shining stars working back in the districts! Same job, same pay, SAME BS!
So, why MOST of us truly welcome you back to the districts where you're really needed, please leave the attitudes in the same storage trunk with the BDU's.
Now, "Attention roll call!"
reduce mass transit by 50% hire off duty for 4 hours a day during peak rush hour travel time , that's the only time mass transit is really there , rest of day is lunch and shopping
Here's an I dea, take the MSF commander and use his military intelligence experience somewhere, hmmmmm.
"...you're still the police and you can still make quality arrests."
But what's their (former TRU & MSF officers) incentive to do ANY work?
The department has "rewarded" their efforts by detailing (and possibly disbanding) their units.
Slightly off topic:
More Doty shennanighans at the UCPD.
He just fired the highest ranking female on our Dept., who rose through the ranks to Lt. over the span of several years.
Doty is dumping people here like he's getting an under-the-table bonus for it.
It looks like that sign about 'the last one to be fired, please turn out the lights' is going to be placed on the front lawn of our station very soon.
"Glad too see this happen, we in 003 need the help. Our resources of police have been so depleted, there is no one willing to do the job."
What makes you think that these officers, FORCED to into these districts, are going to be "willing to do the job?"
They've just gotten a huge slap in the face for all they've done.
If the department had intended to keep TRU and MSF, they could have assigned elements of TRU and MSF to these districts without
"detailing" them.
as a m.s.f officer going to a district...watch out criminals im still gonna find you and lock you up... and no boss is gonna stop me.....and i'll still answer my jobs just like i did when we were disbanded from s.o.s
GEU isnt going anywhere. They recieved a 5 year federal grant for that unit that still has some time left.
According to contact with the PBPA this is not a voluntary bid, so you are not locked in for a year. If after 90 days they decide to end the detail and officially disband TRU/MSF they have to put out a superbid to available districts.
AND I would have respected the cutting of TRU/MSF a lot more if it was about the 3rd or 4th thing he did. Before he made those cuts, he should have:
**emptied headquarters
**placed light duty officers inside and relocated
inside people from the desk/commanders off.
**cleared medical roll of abusers
**cleared callback
Should have started with the REAL excess fat, and worked his way to the heavy lifters. This sends the wrong message.
So now we are going to have a bunch of haters of McCarthy cause he disbanded/detail out units that basically "NO BANG FOR THE BUCK".
The big question to me is what is going to happen to the Portillos on Harlem? They benefited from MSF and TRU's taking their 2 hour lunchs there.
I hope that they are able to survive the empty tables.
Good luck finding dining locations in 011, 015, 003. Tips/Sauce and Sop'n bread from Fredines. Harold's #1-#49 isnt always the healtiest choice.
Are we going to relive the bloody summer of 2008 after jfled ordered SOS disbanded?
For the record, Dana Starks disbanded SOS in 2007, not JFED.
5/24/2011 04:42:00 AM
***FOR THE RECORD***
Acting Supt. Starks was TOLD by City Hall, 5th floor (someone real short) to get rid of S.O.S.
Starks didnt just pull that decision out of his hat.
till saw some msf cars out there doing it. just got chopped today and 6 of them in there doing a one bag weed arrest. you really should go out on a low note and relax before your thrown back into the bullshit we deal with in patrol. no need to keep getting that work done for the man. weather your the "real police" or not in msf take it easy for a few days.
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I call your 'bluff'
Post the RD#....or do you not know what an 'RD#" is ?
Anonymous said...
Ahhh, the Rahm-father pulling the strings to attain a goal of 1000 officers on the street..... The sad part is that the citizens believe the bullshit of smoke and mirrors!! Guess what citizens, these new officers coming from these units have been there the entire time... McCarthy is another Weis, make no doubt about it..... A puppet!!!
Enjoy the shell game, Suckers!!
5/24/2011 12:11:00 AM
There will never be another weis! There is no boss as bad as him. PERIOD! jesse jackass would be better than weis.
"Have each team give up 2 guys, and maybe consolidate teams. This way, you still can keep team chemistry, and each team can get rid if their dogs."
Great idea! Just what we need in patrol, more dogs!
C'mon man, get serious.
I love it!! This is an outstanding move, Now all you Brass who don't do shit will be on the 'Chopping Block"!!
Now these troubled districts (3,4,5,6,7,8,11,15) will have resources to 'Fight Crime'. No Crime reduction come end of the 90 days.......Demotion!...Thats right all you clout heavy babies...DEMOTION.
LOVE IT!!!
"Reward the workers who produce for a change. Let the dogs be dogs in a district, don't reward them with unit spots."
You DO know that NOBODY'S there because they're good workers, right?
This is CHICAGO PD. You're ALL there on pnone calls. Stop kidding yourself about how great a copper you are.
closed the near north high school 1450 N. Larabee and send those officers back to patrol and 3,7,8, district asap.
A TOXIC WASTE DUMP WHY DO YOU THINK THERE ARE NO CPS STUDENTS THERE?????????
Be happy you have a job. The real unemployment rate under Obama is about 20%.
313R. i just on viwed a domestic. send me a paper car
disp. 313r you are the paper car. hahahaha
5/24/2011 01:31:00 AM
Yeah tell that shit to your tact team and 06 cars stroke. We will do just like the rest of you drive by and waive and let the next guys get screwed with the accident report when they get it assigned by oemc.
"When they looked at all of the lawsuits filed in the city some outragous number like 70 percent were filed against officers of msf and tru."
Yeah, it's elementary alright; most of us are smart enough to have stopped doing anything pro-active these days. The department won't support us.
All the MSF & TRU guys were trying to do was to keep their job by bringing in activity.
Look at the thanks they got. Again, no department support.
Am I to understand that 10 hour days will be yanked from these officers after June 23? If thats true then what a bogus move. People had plans based on this schedule such as weddings, family parties and etc. If this is the manner in which the new Supe treats hard working police officers, then he should be aware that he just made 500+ POs into dogs. Not a good start
5/24/2011 01:47:00 AM
Give me a fuckin break. Kid, where have u been the last three years? We in beat cars have been royally fucked with for years now b/c we don't have manpower. In my district we r so short that only one person is allowed off per day! So don't even try whining about how u can't take Ur extended baby furloughs etc. Just be happy u had a good gig for a while. Welcome to the real world of time due denied, lunches denied, even personals denied.
"Time to get back to the basics of policing."
Trouble is, few at/near the top know what the basics of policing are.
They were never the police themselves.
Implosion impending.
First, they should have kept a partial unit to cover city wide problems. Yes, there were way too many coppers in MSF and TRU, but a city wide unit is necessary. Second, for the guys in the units don't do a PAR form, let them place you, that way you can bid out when you get the chance.
Well, OCD is on the chopping block next. Just my 2 cents, but its time to make the lieutenants earn their pay. Im safe where im at by both seniority and activity, but making cuts from OCD by reverse seniority is a cop-out.
Have each team give up 2 guys, and maybe consolidate teams. This way, you still can keep team chemistry, and each team can get rid if their dogs. The seargants all know who they would get rid of if they could, have each Sgt submit 2 names to the LT, and let the LT make the final decision.
I know a lot of guys in OCD with 6-10 years on who LITERALLY CARRY THEIR TEAMS, and deserve their spots who would be cut, and I know some guys in OCD who are unfit to be janitors at the station who would get to stay.
Reward the workers who produce for a change. Let the dogs be dogs in a district, don't reward them with unit spots.
5/24/2011 12:23:00 AM
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So you are safe due to seniority but dont want cuts by seniority? and you want to maintain team chemistry but suggest mixing teams together? Who do you think you are with that kind of leadership gameplan-Obama?
There's going to be a reincarnation of some type of citywide unit that'll respond to events at the drop of a hat, but 95% of you won't be part of that team. Seniority is back en vogue, while clout and phone calls are going to be put on the back burner...at least temporarily.
Try not to wreck my Crown Vic while I'm on furlough July and August.
5/24/2011 01:09:00 AM
Hey chief im happy going back to any one of these districts Ill be able to get the summer furlough that I was never able to get in tru.The hours allowing me to stay home during the day with my kids and work after my wife got home is why I stayed all these years average time in tru is more than 10 years I hope you dont get screwed out of your summer furlough next year.I will say, I will probably need an fto for a week or so I cant remember how to blow off a job.
These idiots shot themselves in the foot. 6 people going in on a one bag weed arrest and staying down for hours on it. And then the rest of their tour they sat at their lunch spot. I've routinely seen these guys at lunch for close to two hours. They have no idea what patrol has been like recently. They think they deserve their two hour lunch b/c they were able to dig up a bag of weed in the ghetto. Gimme a fuckin break.
Great News! These guys are legends in their own minds. It doesn't do shit policing these animals on south and west side. Now he needs to open bids for the tax paying districts that are operating one man beat cars on afternoons. 016 has less than 200 officers for 38 Square miles of land, and the highest population of any district. Since 75% of department lives there, lets start protecting the home front. Fuck these dogs!.
Anonymous said...
Rumors that Public Transportation Section will be disbanded and taken over by districts.
5/24/2011 01:49:00 AM
Sweet, now I can turn off my radio and go for a train ride......ES NICCCEE!!!
Patrol IS a citywide response team- when staffed, you have plenty of boots on the ground- a few wagons, several rapids etc per dist- when major shit hits the fan you pull from the next dist- which usually shares the same zone anyway!
what about getting rid of these useless robbery mission teams too??? what is their purpose??
What are they going to do when they can't go where ever they want for lunch? How will they be able to handle an arrest in the district without 10 other people standing around? How are they gonna survive on a half hour lunch and a full tour now? These guys should be put on suicide watch!
I like the Sup already... These guys came in with a bag of weed acting like they are better than everyone else. Even beat cops won't come in with that nonsense. Good job sup!!!
Haha I love it. Time for all the phone calls. All the coppers who never were the police and came from slow districts are getting those phone calls in right now. They are all praying they don't go to southside distriicts. Haha I love it. Thanks msg u did alot you tied up my computers in 011 for 5 hours of the tour, you stood in the hallways for another couple more hours, then u went back on the computers and went on Facebook. But you guys did make a difference.
Welcome back you whiners! I got 19 years on so no you won't be pushing me off my watch or furlo. Enjoy your summer stroke!
121AM is correct....that's what happens when you have both the literal and proverbial "Hair Gel" thinking they know what's going on. VERY FEW of them know how to write paper (I'm a desk Sgt - I see all they bastardized arrest reports and am CONSTANTLY correcting these goofs). This is a direct result of not hiring to keep up with attrition, no FTOs and letting 3-5 year wonders that never worked anywhere fast jump headfirst into units that encourage cutting corners for numbers.
Luckily most of these kids have no or very little net worth which can be taken away from them when they get slaughtered in federal court for that civil rights violation. Mom & Dad will just have to tolerate junior living in the basement for a few more years.
007 Sgt.
ok good start. How about you now get rid of the 806 teams and the 865 teams in the 8th district. 008 has three tac teams and now you have to have two more teams? one for nights and one for midnights. Thats two sgts and ten p.os on each team. Thats a waste of 20 bodies. well, they can keep the 806 sgt though, we really dont want that idiot back on the watch... find a room he can go hide away in. If he comes on one more scene of a shooting and talks to the guys on the watch again like they are children we may just stick him on a skewer and have an old fashioned piggy roast. Hey 806, stay out of the business that the watch has. Just because a guy is wearing a blue shirt does not mean you have to instantly talk to them like they are 5 years old and demand that things get done your way... we have sgts on our watch that can take care of business... well, not sgt L.B he usually bugs us most of the time too... maybe you could take L.B. off our hands and you guys could work a car together and keep each other company.. wow, that car would be called team devastation. You guys both being such great coppers could dominate this entire city.. You guys could be like dr evil and mini me! oh its so cute I can picture you two already riding together.
I agree with the new boss on this move but what is going to happen to those genious crime analyst assigned to the doc? I hope that they are not off limits.
just watch the city is going to burn without us! u sow what you reap
Great! now we'll have more pissed off officers who will NOT be answering calls and giving a helping hand to the beat guys.
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If that's what happens, blame your Sergeant. First-line supervisors need to man up and start earning that pay raise and extra 45 minutes OT every day.
You can't put all the blame on Quinn for the states problems, after all this is only his really first term as Govenor! Madigan and Cullerton have been running this state for years and everyone knows this. They are the ones to blame for the financal mess we are in! NOBODY ELSE! When the city and state workers realize Madigan and cullerton are no friend of theirs they won't be ringing any door bells for them anymore!
We dont have enough squad cars in the districts, this again is another band aide that will not solve problems. Rham hire more police.
That crazy mfer MT from TRU is telling everyone he is going back to 006. Supposedly it's a done deal. God he is a glutton for punishment!
So the Dist. Level gets help, but the Det. division gets another season of heat being swamped..... Hello,
it's been close to 4 years now without a class being made!!!
Oh, I forgot, budget crisis!! Right!!
Sorry citizens , nothing to see here !!!
Please move along....
Maybe, if you returned to D-2 pay . . .
It's about time, Good Move McCarthy
I can not wait to hear the guy with 4 years on tell me about he "Old Days' in MSF!" HA HA
Up hill both ways, Im sure
Even back in the days of the MLK riots and the original DNC riots, there were 6 Task Forces assigned to the areas.
There were only four Areas with Task Force: 1,2,4,and 6. Area Three, located at 39th and Claifornia (Districts 7,8,and 9), and Area Five,located at 2138 N. California (Districts 14,15,16,and 17),did not have a Task Force component assigned.
More smoke and mirrors folks. These people do not know anything about policing in Chicago. What are they going to do during the taste fireworks, budbilliken? The ballerino sounded very uninformed as what he was doing. I hope the new PO s have camera training. Oh they don't.
Rumors that Public Transportation Section will be disbanded and taken over by districts.
It will NEVER happen. Too many Exempts' family members relay on CTA to go back and forth to work and school. If more of their famlies hung-out in 3,4,5,6,7,11,15then either TRU or MSF would stay...
"For too long, the Department has lost sight of the fact that everyone else exists to support Patrol."
Truest words I've seen in a long time. There's no need for TRU and MSF when we can't adequately man the districts. Still, there will need to be some sort of pool of manpower they can shift on a moment's notice (area saturation, task force, TRU, or MSF, not all of the above).
!!!...assigned and not detailed out of either MSF or TRU will be detailed to one of the following districts: 003, 004, 005, 006, 007, 008, 011 and 015. ...!!!
WTF!
Nobody to 010!
Were we sold off to Cicero or something?
The 10th District gave up a lot of people to those units and has had to deal with shortages, down primary beat cars, no rapids, few sergeants.
To not get some of our people back is a real slap.
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Bye bye Roussell!
5/24/2011 01:32:00 AM <<<
Let's see, 33 1/2 years on this job, hunts gangbangers in Chicago.
Chief Warrant Officer United States Marine Corps, hunts insurgents in Iraq.
What have you done with your life?
If he retires, I'll buy a ticket to that party. Now those boy wonder lieutenants...
The "response units" will be the late rapids they make incident cars. If there is a problem they call out the incident cars and incident sgt. from each district.. Now go get your shine box
The greatest thing our new Mayor and Supt could do is a forensic audit of our Depts mismanagement. Hold those responsible for irresponsible hiring practices that have allowed our ranks to shrink to the 8,000 man range. Connect the dots to the misappropriated funds earmarked for hiring that were used to acquire unnecassary technology supplied by connected firms. Those most responsible are now in complete panic mode and cancelling time off that officers EARNED.
welcome to 004 district.....""no u can't leave in the miidle of your tour go handle some domestics,yeah can take your 15 minute personal....lmao....
Fly on the wall says, big changes coming for BIS. 1 Lt 2 Sgts per watch. Elimination of non-essential supervisors (front office, SVU). Palm reader to swipe in and out to be online by start of summer. Pilot program to be started putting Detectives in districts. Lt K.S. your position in A 5 is not as secure as you think it is, G-Mac is on to you.
dogs will always be dogs and the working police will continue to work--thats what their work ethics are point blank! I don't see working police being so disgruntled that they stop working, its not going to happen--they will adjust, and continue being the real police. It will be great to have the extra bodies in patrol--for all of our safety-its critical. We don't need anymore dead "brothers" Just think people, maybe we will be able to get that extra day off now when we request it--think positive, the glass is half filled
well, looks like seniority in 008 is gonna continue to go up and up and up. 9 years on the job and ill be back to taking 3a and 4b furloughs...great
All about perception. If the public perceives there are more officers on the street then city politicians have done their job without spending a dime. Why are there more officers? Because the media says there are! Duh
Don't put in a PAR form voluntarily, make them move you, then use that other favored CPD form, the Grievance formset.
move people here,move them there.it dont change a thing.the first time g-mac bends over for some rev.,its business as usual.
I had an open mind to this guy but...bad, bad move. If he is going to address something "immediately" we would be better served with addressing the issue of the the types of 911 calls that we respond to and their prioritization. Restructuring these units was inevitable but "dumping" these officers just prior to the summer months without working out the logistics first is a huge mistake.
OT:
The Mayor wants to " renegotiating a policy that allows officers to take 365 sick days every two years"
It's not a "policy", it's in the contract, BIG difference.
FOP better NOT be thinking about giving in on this one!
http://www.suntimes.com/5564005-417/union-rips-plans-to-move-500-cops-to-high-crime-beats.html
All I can say is:
W O W
These politicians really do think the public and the media are STUPID.
Maybe they really are.
what about reducing exempt command staff at vcd , mlas , erps , crime lab , msf , tru , narcotics ,public transportation,
area detective division , geu and really save some money
The greater concern for all should be in regards to the comment made by the new sup. concerning evaluations and how they will be used. he openly admitted to disciplining officers with poor evaluations.
embrace the changes people...
change is good :)
and McCarthy is no WEIS!!!!
Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Tuesday delivered what he called a “down payment” on his promise to put 1,000 more police officers on the street — by shifting 500 officers from specialized units to high-crime districts.
--Ooook so the first 500 WERE ALREADY ON THE STREET!
So here we are playing a numbers game already. They way I see it 500 from TRU & MSF were already on the street so you still have a balance of putting ZERO officers on the street Rahm. The Revs & Politicians in those districts will hype it up and the media will buy your bullshit. In all reality you haven't done shit.
“To say this is 500 more officers on the street — no, it’s not. Don’t mislead the public. There are no more police officers today than there were yesterday. They’re taking 500 officers as if they were never on the street and putting them into beat cars. They’re acting as if they were assigned to some desk duty,” Shields said.
--Good job mike. Don't let Rahm blow smoke up peoples asses
Asked twice whether he still intends to honor his campaign promise to put 1,000 additional officers on the street, Emanuel appeared to hedge. His staff subsequently argued that Emanuel promised 1,000 new officers “on the beat” and that, by that measure, he’s half-way home.
-----------now there's a play on words. F*in lying politicians.
WE DONT NEED THESE UNIT!
IF SOMETHING COMES UP WE SHOULD JUST OFFER IT AS A DETAIL AND IF NO ONE WANT IT BOOM REVERSE SENIORITY.
IVE LOOKED AT MANY OF THE ARREST AND A MAJORITY OF THEM ARE VERY LOW QUALITY.
PATROL OFFICERS MAKE BETTER ARREST DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY SURPRISE THE SHITHEADS ON DOMESTIC CALLS AND DISTURBANCES.
AND PLEASE ALL U EXEMPTS SCRAMBLING TRYING NEW IDEAS ITS TOOOOO LATE. HAVE SOME BALLS AND QUIT DOCTORING UP THOSE RESUME'.
U DIDNT INVENT CAPS AND YOU HAVE NEVER BROK A MAJOR CASE.
Oh the new Sup will see right thru those bosses who dont have the back of the working police .
KIRBY SKAHILL KLIMAS(FORMER FBI) MEALER CALLOWAY
What about these stupid uniforms?? We have a half dozen different uniform options... Not 3 of us look alike. Get rid of these uniforms and go back to ONE uniform for summer and ONE for winter... Go back to the original hat and get rid of this stupid baseball cap which makes us look like lil abnet instead of respected police officers... If you dont like the hat or uniform tough shit.
ALL U GAMBLING TYPES WHO FILL OUT A PAR FORM WILL BE TRAPPED IN THE GHETTO FOR A YEAR!
THE DEPARTMENT HAS A CLASS COMING UP AND THOSE CRAP DISTRICTS WILL BE A LITTLE PACKED.
BIDS WILL OPEN AND U WILL BE SCREWED.
KINDA OF MAKES U WONDER DONT IT.
WILL THE KIDS IN THE ACADEMY GET DAYS IN OO1.
WILL THE NEWBIES BE ASSIGNED VERY SLOW AND EASY DISTRICTS.
AND REMEMBER ANOTHER ROUND OF DUMPS ARE COMING SO WHEN WILL THE NEW 1ST DEPUTY OPEN BIDS?
interesting Paul Huebel video to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcQFGEg-64M&feature=player_embedded
(Deadly force and the aftermath)
The new Supt told MSF and TRU at the meeting that most would be sent to area saturation teams and some would go to districts for the detail. Then the fax came out and said that all members of MSF and TRU are going to districts. So, the new Supt either lied or he doesn't know what is going on because he was told to disband both units by the mayor??
Great way to start off your tenure boss!
He also told us that most guys in the districts are dogs and that we need to motivate the guys in the districts. I'm sure that is going to happen.
so whats gonna happen to the two commanders. cmdr kevin ryan at one time was a great guy. Now I see him out at functions benefits/ cpd/cfd game on the street and he doesnt even say hello or acknowledge any of his old friends. Well kevin, I guess that gold star really took you over. I guess you forgot where you came from. not even a handshake huh buddy. Well kev, hopefully you land on your feet... but where ever you land do me a favor, dont forget about the days before that 500 lb gold star was put on your shirt. sure it weighs you down but dont forget the guys who got you there also...
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