This Will Show Them!
Thank god the mayor is finally taking the reins into his hands and showing McStreetlights how to run a world class city! If this doesn't keep control of the streets, then we don't know what will:
Mayor Rahm Emanuel wants to raise fines for resisting police as the city gears up for anticipated protests that will come with the G8 and NATO summits to be held in Chicago next May.
Protesters found guilty of resisting a police officer or aiding escape would have to pay a maximum fine ranging from $200 to $1,000. Currently, the range is $25 to $500.
The proposal introduced at today's City Council meeting also would allow Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy to deputize officers with other agencies, including the FBI and Illinois State Police.
And pay no attention to this little paragraph:
- The proposal also would appear to give the mayor greater power to sign contracts related to planning security and logistics without City Council approval.
Chicagoans can sleep peacefully in their beds knowing that the Ramn-inator will be fining protestors and anarchists back into the Stone Age. It's almost revolutionary.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
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What difference does a fine make when you have nothing to lose?
Hey, fine them one-million dollars and if they ain't got it then keep them locked up. See how that works out.
Only problem is, 1) the jails are full and 2) how much does it cost the taxpayers again to keep a person in prison in Illinois? $70.00...$140.00 dollars a day?
Let's get real here though. You think it's about the fines and the power to deputize federal agents or is that a diversion and it's really about dishing out contracts with ZERO accountability?
Great idea! One problem its very rare to see anyone get convicted of resisting or obstructing. I was recently a victim of agg batt to P/O. The judge found the shithead not guilty. It seems to me that the courts don't believe Police officers can actually be victims.
I wonder what a million people marching down lake shore drive looks like?
Hmmm . . . . . . . sounds like another attack on the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Attack on Second Amendment: Create many obstacles and hurdles for people to clear to own a firearm.
Attack on First Amendment: Increase fines on people practicing their right to free speech and assembly.
Rahm is increasing fines on resisting arrest because he knows with the shortage of police officers that police officers will get injured, go IOD, and incur medical bills that the city will have to pay for. So charge the protesters who are against big, untaxed corporate business, and are not really against middle class wage earners (hey, like police officers fit into that class too)
they can fine them all they want but if they are bust out jagoffs with no money how do you collect--- to all of you occupy chicago or occupy wall street or whatever you call yourselves, you will not have a problem with the cpd if you behave like human beings--- if you start hurting peace officers here you will feel the wrath of a sleeping giant who will make your life a living hell--- don't fuck with the police and we won't fuck with you.....
Rahm does not want the expense of housing these professional thugs and anarchists.
But here is a real idea that could cut down on the violence against police and the city as a whole.
Many of these thugs and anarchists do this for the fun of it and have done it before in other cities. They have tried to perfect their craft of causing mayhem and injuring police but many of them were caught and arrested along the line somewhere. They have probably have been arrested somewhere and run out on their bonds. B.F. Warrants would have been issued, but not serviceable here because they would be too expensive to return the thug cross county to face the charges.
Well, change that. Get a Department of Justice grant to find out who these people are, what they are wanted for and money to return them to any jurisdiction that wants them no matter how small the charge.
Therefore: thug comes to Chicago to raise hell like he did in NY or LA and gets arrested on the first day. His prints show a BFW for some BS back from some violence he caused in NY or LA and he does not get I-Bonded to go out and cause more havoc. He gets held pending extradition.
Stay Safe. This could thin the herd pretty quick.
What's he going to do if everyone checks the money box?
Is he going to deputize the protesters to arrest and process each other?
What if they come from any other state but this one with their permits to carry and certain personal belongings they intend to secure on their persons or next to them in their tents or sleeping bags?
You can't sneak up on them with the U505; Daley filled it's ballast tanks with concrete and the Stuka is out of petrol?
How are you going to get the wounded out without Meig's LZ? Make one in the park?
Representatives of the richest people on the planet are to cheap to have their own security but want to bankrupt us instead and Shortshanks invited them?
Ram E Man? You better hurry up and finish the Deep Tunnel; you're going to need it!
Let’s balance the budget and insure there is plenty of money for the Aldermen to steal on the backs of the professional protestors who will be flooding into our city next summer – not a bad idea!
I’ve got a wacky notion that we’re going to be visited by more then just the goofs who follow around G8 Summits next summer. I think the useful idiots of the left – “Occupy Wall Street” people are going to make our town a focal point of their rioting efforts too in the hopes that the idiots in town for the G8 and NATO dog and pony shows will join them. The OWS crowd hasn’t been able to attract vary big numbers lately and they’re desperate to project the impression that they are a popular movement. When they’re all in town together ranting in the streets it is going to be pretty hard to tell them apart and probably the leftist media will help the illusion by not trying and portraying them all as OWS protestors.
It’s just a wacky notion mind you.
Chicago is like a science fiction movie where the aliens have a little tell the audience can see, but the movie heroes cannot.
Rahm has shown his true face with that little paragraph that give him the "emergency" powers. Here it comes.
Not a bad idea. I give him props for making the offense as financially serious as it is physically. Thanks Mayor.
Big deal.
Means nothing unless the courts get on the band wagon and if you think that is going to happen ......HA!
The City Council does not review or approve contracts now. How does this change anything?
Giving Charlie McCarthy power to deputize officers from surrounding suburbs could be a good thing, if the shit gets out of hand at the G8. Now all he has to do is convince the guys from Winnetka, Glencoe, Palatine, etc. to leave their somewhat sleepy villages and jump into a potential shitstorm downtown. There must be some big financial incentive attached to this whole deputy thing, huh?? Otherwise, he will have to make do with his understaffed department. You know, the department that is sufficient for the job at hand, and we don't need more officers? Yes, that department.
Knuckleheads are running chicago-don't worry about a thing.9.5 has your backs.
“He (Tiny Dancer) also wants to add more security cameras, deputize more people to be police officers”... We are not short police officers, but Tiny Dancer wants the authority to arbitrarily deputize citizens as police officers.
If this happens, I see a lot of bad things resulting.
Deputized Police Officers
That'll stop em for sure!
Thank you SO much for standing up for us Mr. Mayor.....
Didn't the British pull this same stuff on the Colonist back in the days of old. We all know what happened there.
Please always remember one thing about Racoon Eyes...HE COULD GIVE A RATZ ASS ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ANYTHING! He does whatever he wants and dares anyone to fight him. He may lose a few but he believes only he knows what is best for you. You can't insult this little prick so you have your work cut out for you. At least fat arce Daley would wet his little pinky and put it up in the air to see which way the wind was blowing.
"Don't worry about anything" says OEMC Chief Gary Schenkle. This is going to be the most peaceful G8 ever. In fact it is going to be a "family affair" where folks can bring their kids downtown to watch democracy in action. Bring the little ones down in strollers and watch the fun. Almost like Taste of Chicago with crazed Anarchist thrown in. I would sure like some of that stuff Gary is smoking.
The media had some "professor" on who stated that the city was able to handle 2 million people who came downtown for the Blackhawks parade, so he sees no problems arising from the G8/NATO summits.
Remain calm!!!! All is well........
Has anyone ever read the US Constitution in this state? Hitler and Stalin would fit right in at the Chicago City Council.
The Problem is the courts will NEVER impose these fines!
Some Liberal ass Judges is gonna say the penalty is too harsh!
Case dismissed!
I have no faith in our Court system! Especially, Kangaroo Court of Branch 29! What a joke that coourt is!
another way to make money on the backs of police!everyone is gonna resist arrest!HIRE MORE POLICE!!
Just what we need Rham in full control of handing out contracts at a whim. This fucking place I hope burns. I hope business sue the shit out of the city for their lost work.
Who let's this shit happen.........Geezus
Even Playboy is fleeing Chicago...
Playboy Publishing Leaving Chicago For LA
“Some of the magazine’s Chicago employees have been asked to relocate, while others have been asked to stay on in Chicago to ensure a seamless transition,” Playboy spokeswoman Theresa Hennessey said Tuesday in a statement.
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlla/playboy-publishing-leaving-chicago-for-la_b47905#.TuiospRnlQs.facebook
Something for people to think about, particularly those with homes, properties and/or businesses in/around areas to be inundated with NATO & G8 assholes come May:
Most, if not all, insurance policies won't cover losses sustained due to "Civil Unrest" or "Acts of Terrorism". Not sure if riders can be added or amended that would encompass such losses, either. Check your policy and consult with your agent to take preemptive measures, lest you return home only to find a smoldering pile of rubble.
You know the saying. An ounce of precaution...
All D/C and Resisting Police arrests will be dismissed or SOL in court anyway.Maybe they are hoping in the fear factor of raising the fines and these nuts will behave. Dont count on it!
"The proposal introduced at today's City Council meeting also would allow Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy to deputize officers with other agencies, including the FBI and Illinois State Police."
?????????Whata the angle on this one???Dont these angies have full police powers anyway???Mutial aid?Angency assist.
Unconstitutional Freedom of Speech Rahm is a Dictator
Don't like the protesters but this is BS Go after Maggie Daley Charoty 3.5 Million Stolen
The proposal also would appear to give the mayor greater power to sign contracts related to planning security and logistics without City Council approval.
Hey! Wait a minute!! I take that is aimed at OUR contract
First of all, the city ord means nothing to people from out of state.
The city cannot collect the money, even if they had a legit way of doing it.
Unlike most other cities, we do not have the working technology to assist the officers on the street who are makeing these arrests.
The of course, we have to get the states attorney to start working with the police and not with the gangs.
So if 500 people show up to court with cases of resisting the police, do you really think the courts are going to take on all of these cases?? No way, they'll plea them out to one hour of supervision or dump 'em all immediately. Every single one of these bust outs will take their case to trial and the amount of overtime paid will be way more than any fines that actually get paid.
The funny thing about the fine is that it will still be in the hands of the courts. How many times have they thrown everythng out or the judge imposes no fine or punishment? Countless! Since when has the court ever come down hard on anyone hurting or even resisting the police? On the other hand I hope Rahm makes things hard for these jagoff in other ways. Fuck with them in every which way you can.
This could make '68 look like nothing. And like '68, it could play into the hands of the conservative side of the argument. Everyone forgets that '68 helped make Nixon president. If enough knucklehead anarchits/SeattleWTO types make this a violent protest, it could scuttle whatever political momentum the Occupy movement might've gained. And, I note, like '68 it seems to be about control of public spaces, parks and what hours people are allowed to use 'em. Rahm ought to learn from RJ Daley's errors and let the protesters camp in the parks overnight. Keeps 'em in one place, near the portapotties, and minimizes confrontations.
They only have to pay if they are convicted. And any officer knows how hard it is to be considered a "victim" by a CCSA. "Well officer, did you go to the hospital? Did you go on the medical for any injuries? You were just struck in the face a few times as the offender tried to make good his escape? Well such circumstances are expected in your line of work right? Felony charges denied. My name is blah blah blah." Good luck when it goes to misdemeanor court. More toothless laws.
Fines are great if you have $$$$ to pay them. These
bust-outs have no cash. Last I heard, you can't throw anyone in jail for being poor.
Nice going T.D. 9.5 You asshat !!!!
Anonymous said...
Not a bad idea. I give him props for making the offense as financially serious as it is physically. Thanks Mayor, for NOTHING you stroke!
12/15/2011 05:38:00 AM
The rest of the story is that this is only temporary, intending to repeal this after the riots, er sorry, summits.
Not a bad idea. I give him props for making the offense as financially serious as it is physically. Thanks Mayor.
12/15/2011 05:38:00 AM
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Rahm, go play on someone else's blog. You're out of your league here.
The Better Government Association filed a lawsuit challenging the Chicago Police Department’s refusal to release documents showing where tactical units were deployed earlier in 2011.
http://www.bettergov.org/bga_sues_chicago_police_dept_for_data_on_plainclothes_officers/
Signing contracts for security? Why this is what Daley did when they fired over 500 police officers working part time security for the park district. Then he hired a connected security company. Monterey, and gave them the contract. He put a CPD lieutenant in charge of park district security. The lieutenant immediately formed his own security company and gave himself contracts.
It's all about suspending the existing laws and probably the Constitution. The man is scary, in the worst sense of the word.
Sounds like it would also give 9.5 freedom to privatize a police department.
This is genius. Fine everyone that act a fool. Since most of these protesters are people with jobs lets make them pay. Solve the budget crisis real fast.
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Raise fines?
B.S.
Raise MANDATORY jail sentences!
If the jails are full, well T.S. They can sleep on the floor!
How many city pensions is Gary Schenkle going to get when he retires? He is sucking Rhams .5 '" er. He looked like a fool on the news!!!!
Sure all we need to do now is find a judge that will enforce the laws and new super fines, instead of tossing all the cases out because the offenders ask for a public defender... Which is what happens now. It may sound good Rahm, but reality is reality it will never happen.
So, are we going to say, "Time out Mr. protester, may I please have you ID so I can issue you an ANOV for your actions?" "Squad, can you run a name for me?" (In order to confirmm and verify the true identity of the protester), "Louder Squad I can not hear with all the outside noise out here..." This is an amazing idea, wow the leadership we have...
What a bunch of foolishness.
State law already gives suburban officers authority within the city. No one has to be “deputize”. The superintendent isn’t a sheriff; he does not have deputies.
There is already a “Special Police” ordinance on the books that allows the superintendent to appoint anyone he wants as city police officer, any time he wants. It is done quite frequently too. The University of Chicago Police Force is commissioned in this fashion for example.
Financial arrangement? No hot shot...We will leave our "sleepy" little towns (specially the ones in the south suburbs) to help fellow officers. I would hope you would be willing to do the same if our little corner of paradise ever went up for grabs.
The whole idea here is to look out for each other...and that idea extends to our sleepy little towns.
The suburbs aren't so sleepy anymore...the idiots have moved there.Thanks to the declining economy, no hiring for last few years and understaffed just like you too. Being down 3-4 guys on a small department of 30 hurts just like 2,000-3,000 down. I admit crime isn't as bad as in city but you would be surprised how two serious calls at once tie up your 3 guys working and then there is no one else.
NOBODY has enough cops anymore.
"Signing contracts for security? Why this is what Daley did when they fired over 500 police officers working part time security for the park district. Then he hired a connected security company. Monterey, and gave them the contract. He put a CPD lieutenant in charge of park district security. The lieutenant immediately formed his own security company and gave himself contracts."
NO! Rahm's different! He's the guardian of the taxpayer!
Just ask him.
"Tiny Dancer wants the authority to arbitrarily deputize citizens as police officers. "
Oh, it won't be arbitrary. It'll be the animals who didn't qualify otherwise.
Hell, 3M might even be back!
"Tiny Dancer wants the authority to arbitrarily deputize citizens as police officers."
Think of the lawsuits we'll be paying for into the next decade and likely beyond!
"His prints show a BFW for some BS back from some violence he caused in NY or LA and he does not get I-Bonded to go out and cause more havoc. He gets held pending extradition.
Stay Safe. This could thin the herd pretty quick."
While I hope you're right, consider this: Think how many warrants you've hit on from Du Page or Lake counties that weren't serviceable because they simply didn't want these people back n their county.
"...deputize officers with other agencies, including the FBI and Illinois State Police."
?????????Whata the angle on this one???Dont these angies have full police powers anyway???Mutial aid?Angency assist."
State Police, yes. FBI, no. They can't make outright arrests. Theirs are all warrant arrests, but they can act as legally-armed citizens and make "Citizen's Arrests", just like Gomer Pyle.
"Not a bad idea. I give him props for making the offense as financially serious as it is physically. Thanks Mayor."
Do I get this money when I'm IOD'd by one of these assholes?
In the meantime --
London Olympics security to be boosted by 13,500 troops
Number greater than deployment in Afghanistan but defence secretary insists it will not affect operational capabilities
Owen Gibson, Olympics editor
Thursday 15 December 2011 10.02 EST
"Up to 13,500 military personnel will be on duty in London and across the country during the Olympic Games next summer, the government has revealed, including 7,500 to boost the number of security staff inside Olympic venues.
"The number is greater than the 9,500 deployed in Afghanistan, although the defence secretary, Phillip Hammond, insisted the large call on the armed forces would not affect operational capabilities elsewhere.
"Hammond also revealed that the Royal Navy's largest ship, 22,500-tonne helicopter carrier HMS Ocean, would be based in Greenwich for the duration of the Games, while assault vessel HMS Bulwark would be moored in Weymouth, where the sailing events will take place.
"An "appropriate and scaleable" air security plan includes Typhoon aircraft at RAF Northolt, helicopters operating from HMS Ocean and "appropriate" surface to air missile systems.
"The police will also deploy up to 12,000 officers on the busiest days of the Games, with the operation being planned on the basis that the terrorist threat level will be set at severe."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/dec/15/london-olympics-security-boosted-troops?newsfeed=true
London Olympics' security budget doubles
9:49 AM Tuesday Dec 6, 2011
"The security budget for the 2012 London Olympics has doubled, a British government report out overnight showed, with plans to recruit almost 14,000 extra personnel.
"The operation to provide security at more than 100 venues has swollen after the decision was taken to boost staff numbers, the December 2011 Olympic Quarterly Economic Report showed.
"The report stressed that the increase was not in response to a specific security threat.
"The overall budget for the Games remains at 9.3 billion ($18 billion), with 528 million so far unspent.
"The security cost has risen to 553 million ($1.1 billion), the figures from July to September showed, up 282 million on the 2010 spending review baseline.
"Instead of the 10,000 security officers initially planned for, there will now be 23,700, with the majority coming from a private firm. The military and volunteers will make up the rest.
"The government and Games organisers have gone through a detailed analysis of the number of security staff needed, Olympics minister Hugh Robertson explained.
"As a result, to ensure a safe and secure Games, they have revised the numbers of trained staff required," he said.
"We are therefore investing additional funds in providing nearly 24,000 venue security personnel plus specialist security equipment."
"Meanwhile the security budget for the opening and closing ceremonies has also effectively been doubled by an injection of 41 million from the public purse..."
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10771256
they can fine them all they want but if they are bust out jagoffs with no money how do you collect--- to all of you occupy chicago or occupy wall street or whatever you call yourselves, you will not have a problem with the cpd if you behave like human beings--- if you start hurting peace officers here you will feel the wrath of a sleeping giant who will make your life a living hell--- don't fuck with the police and we won't fuck with you.....
12/15/2011 03:06:00 AM
Who are you kidding? Sleeping Giant? LOLOL. You must be joking!
This city will screw you in a heartbeat you goofball. Show how tough you are in federal court.
Grow up and learn grasshopper. Every cell phone, camera, news agency, pod camera will be focused on your ass as you show the awakened sleeping giant.
But dont worry. I will buy a ticket to your benefit.
Have you forgotten? Your mayor wants significant cuts to your pay and benefits. I say KISS MY ASS.
Anonymous said...
they can fine them all they want but if they are bust out jagoffs with no money how do you collect--- to all of you occupy chicago or occupy wall street or whatever you call yourselves, you will not have a problem with the cpd if you behave like human beings--- if you start hurting peace officers here you will feel the wrath of a sleeping giant who will make your life a living hell--- don't fuck with the police and we won't fuck with you.....
12/15/2011 03:06:00 AM
Sleeping giant? Maybe 20 years ago, but today the sleeping giant is the city coming down on it's coppers, only it hasn't been sleeping.
Shoulda had the G8 summit mid-Feb. Woulda cut down on the bs.
Just sayin'
where's our F N FOP books?
Willie B. Hardigan said...
That'll stop em for sure!
Thank you SO much for standing up for us Mr. Mayor.....
12/15/2011 07:16:00 AM
Awesome one....you had me spitting up my pepsi this morning Willie B.
"State law already gives suburban officers authority within the city. No one has to be “deputize”. The superintendent isn’t a sheriff; he does not have deputies."
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Actually, only officers from cities which actually touch Chicago have full police powers in the city.
12/15/2011 06:40:00 PM
You don't have to be a "deputy" to be deputized.
"where's our F N FOP books?"
The calendar in your current FOP book runs through January 2012.
Please direct further inquiries to:
http://www.chicagofop.org/contact-us/
I guess when McNot was hired nobody told him that he might have to strap on a pair once in awhile... or worse yet, he had to turn in his pair unpon arrival.
I heard G8 and NATO said if Chicago wasn't good enough for the Olympics it wasn't good enough for them. Ciao! They're going to Davenport.
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