How Empty is the Jail?
- Cook County is demolishing three divisions, representing close to a half-million square feet of cell space, as the jail population has hit the lowest level in 25 years.
Cook County officials stood in a muddy yard behind the razor wire and walls at the jail complex as demolition started on the first building. WBBM [...] reports.
“Jails are for violent people,” said Sheriff Tom Dart, “and we have a lot of violence in our society.”
“We are always going to have places for them here,” Dart said. “But for the non-violent people, for the mentally ill, they don’t need to be here and through a lot of the work we’ve been doing for the last few years we have been able to get a lot of those people out of here.”
This non-police lib-tard (along with Prickwrinkle and the media) doesn't seem make the connection that the rising violence in Chicago just might be directly connected to the jail being empty. Because we've noticed in our decades of policing that when the jail is full and people are held in a secure environment, they don't seem to victimize the rest of society.
We can't prove it, but it must have something to do with the razor wire, twenty-foot high walls, regulated atmosphere and sniper towers. We're hoping to get funding for a study soon.
Prickwrinkle has this laughable take:
We can't prove it, but it must have something to do with the razor wire, twenty-foot high walls, regulated atmosphere and sniper towers. We're hoping to get funding for a study soon.
Prickwrinkle has this laughable take:
- “We know that holding people in jail destroys lives. Even a short period of pre-trial detention can result in the loss of your job or your home,” Preckwinkle said. “Every effort needs to be made to be sure that people can keep working, attending school and caring for their families as they await trials.”
No word on the families destroyed when their "screening process" fails miserably.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
74 Comments:
Who has the contract for the new shopping mall on the southwest corner of 26th & California?
While prisoner levels are the lowest in 25 years, is there anything else going on that is at the highest levels in 25 years? I'm sure there has to be some correlation somewhere....
"...Prickwrinkle has this laughable take:
“We know that holding people in jail destroys lives. Even a short period of pre-trial detention can result in the loss of your job or your home,” Preckwinkle said. “Every effort needs to be made to be sure that people can keep working, attending school and caring for their families as they await trials.” ..."
Here's a novel idea, Toni....TELL YOUR PEEPS NOT TO COMMIT A CRIME, AND THEY WONT GO TO JAIL!!!! Don't go to jail, and you won't lose your job (like you really had one), you can still go to school (like you really go to class), or take care of your family (like you take care of your responsibilities).
So why vote Dart in?
Run someone else against him.
Get someone else and back him with all the police and their families.
Someone has to step up - AND RUN!
I'm no expert in the field but I am willing to bet that at least 80% of people locked up in the county have no legitimate source of income. The people that have real jobs usually don't get arrested and if they do they can make bond.
In other words criminals should be out roaming the streets, not in jail. Incarceration is inconvenient for criminals, so we don't do it. We are living in loony toon land, I am surprised normal thinking people put up with it. Can you imagine if these people ran the nation?.
Even the criminals are safer when they are locked up.
The neighborhoods are much safer when the criminals are locked up, and not back on the streets.
Dart has blood on his hands.
Soon he and Chicago will be drowning in the blood of innocents and guilty alike.
All that real estate. Maybe they can build some nice condos for lawyers and stock brokers on the land.
Yes but how about the lives affected by the crimes they commit over and over again ?
I been saying this for years .... the victims of these crimes or their families need to start going public when charges against the offender are dropped or downgraded
Especially if their minority ... have their lawyer host a nice press conference downtown with all parties that were victims and call out the state attorney who downgraded or the judge dismissed the charges
start embarrassing them in a public forum
Facts and reality have no place in the dumb-o-craps' world.
“Every effort needs to be made to be sure that people can keep working, attending school and caring for their families as they await trials.”
Unbelievable, and yet somehow, exactly what you would expect her to say. How about, before you commit a violent crime, think about your job, think about your school, think about the family that you "care for". Still want to commit a violent crime? Then you CASHED IN all those things, and you became a CRIMINAL. You should go to jail, get treated like the animal you are, and lose everything.
That's ok, things just need to get a little worse here in Crook County, before people start to realize what the electorate that voted for Donald Trump has known for a good long time...that government is a necessary evil, but it has applications, such as protecting us from violent criminals. It needs to stick to this, and butt out of the areas of life where government doesn't belong, like telling us what kind of light bulbs, toasters, and toilets we're allowed to have.
"Jail is for violent people." Then why is every "violent" crime downplayed and reduced constantly? Agg Batt to simple battery, Vehicle Hijacks to Motor Vehicle Theft, People that pulls guns on others reduced to Disorderly Conduct... give me a break. This county would rather reduce or completely disregard every charge if possible. The only thing that county seems to care about are murders.
Hmm, aren't murders at about the highest level in 25 years?
We are all trying to save money. Aren't the liberals glad?
Jails are for criminals. They fail to mention what destruction they have caused to other lives to be deserving of incarceration
Yes, these poor criminals need help, not jail.
The victims, who's lives were intentionally destroyed buy these criminals, well, you knew this was the cost of living in this city.
To you people with jobs, who have things, if it weren't for you, we wouldn't have so many disadvantaged criminals.
Bizzaro world.
So is it just 'pre-trail' incarceration.. i can maybe get that, but once it's for certain they are found to be guilty,and this goes double for repeat offenders, make them serve their time and save the future victims from being victimized.
These idiots make me sick... if your not on the street robbing, stealing, dealing drugs, & murdering then you should be okay. These people need to be taken out of office they are killing Chicago.
Prickwrinkle has this laughable take:
“We know that holding people in jail destroys lives. Even a short period of pre-trial detention can result in the loss of your job or your home,” Preckwinkle said. “Every effort needs to be made to be sure that people can keep working, attending school and caring for their families as they await trials.”
Wow. I totally thought of Jason Van Dyke when I was reading that comment. What bond did They offer him? $1,500,000?
Anonymous said...
All that real estate. Maybe they can build some nice condos for lawyers and stock brokers on the land.
12/02/2016 01:04:00 AM
No. They will need to build an extra morgue.
Dart is an idiot and complete tool of Prick Winkle. He's so afraid to challenge the "revruns" that he will suck any liberal ass to placate them.
I can't figure this out: Over 4,000 people shot in Chicago this year, and the jail is demolishing space? How does this make sense, if the offenders are being arrested and housed until trial? Seriously, I am not trying to be sarcastic, how does it make any sense that we have this many people shot, and a decline in the jail population? Are Judges and Prosecutors at fault? Also, be careful the Gloves are Off, the Press is an enemy! Placing a photo and name of a Sgt. on the Front Page of the Scum Times before he was indicted was a very dangerous move for him and his family. The Internet exposes cops and their families to a total lack of Privacy! Jamal can find everyone of us on the Net.Perhaps it is time to start Exposing the Press! Coppers in 018, 019, and 001 know where these people live; post it! How about some help from you Suburban coppers; let everyone know where these "Journalists" Live.They love interviewing the Jamals of the Hood; maybe the Jamals can drop over for coffee before you leave for work. When the kids are boarding the school bus, or being driven to school. Be Careful, and ignore Rahm's Wilmette Tough Guy Values. Baby"G"
Dart easily washes the blood from his hands just prior to his next media event. He's totally clueless and would be better positioned working in the Dept of Human Services. Jesus, I wish someone would run against him.
as i have often said: democrats are a fucking laugh riot.
always finding new and interesting ways to piss off the taxpayer treasure. who will be in attendance when the rebuilding begins.
O.T.
Jesse Jackson Jr. is calling on President Barack Obama to issue a mass pardon of former prison inmates who have completed their sentences — a group that would include both Jackson and his wife, former Ald. Sandi Jackson.
Wow. We are an island. Fuuuuck u dart. A jailer who doesn't want to jail. Great. Luck us.
Amusing ... Sad ... But amusing none the less... I'm sure most have heard the phrase LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER... Well folks you need look no further for confirmation ... These simplistic morons are trying to convince ya"'ll that putting criminals in prison is bad for the community and by not Doing so the community will be safer or even worse that they care more for the average killer mugger and rapist well being than yours ... Something is ass backwards here folks
Burglars are "non-violent" so I guess I-bond them too. While you're at it, how about ANOV's for shoplifters?
These people are all politicians first and human beings second. I believe most are at least of average intelligence and able to see the correlation of a soft criminal justice system and a rise in crime. They are willing to forgo these lives, even if they are of their family like Danny Davis, in order to stay in power. It is disgusting. When will the taxpayers wake up.
Yeah, they're libs and haters.........
But they're still corrupt, Cook County kleptocrats.
Let's see who wants that land, who gets it, and for what.
This whole thing is so strange that there has to be another side that I'm missing. Talk about blind justice!
The jail population is down by design but the number of murders and even the downgraded numbers for violent crime are up.
They can't see that?
The jails are full of mentals not criminals. Mentals, although they do commit crimes, do not belong in jail?
They tear down what appear to be functional buildings, that could be used to treat mentals, to save money by not using them.
Where is that cost savings in the way of lower taxes?
Less people in jail, less courts, less judges, less employees. Where are the savings in lower taxes?
Who has the wrecking contract? And who gets the construction contracts to fill the new spaces?
This whole county government stinks...
Demolish the jail today and get kickback from connected contractor today. Rebuild jail tomorrow and get kickback from connected contractors tomorrow. Where's the problem it's the Chicago way. The cost to the tax paying part of the city in both lives and money, who cares? The wheel on the buss go round and round!
If Sturm and Ruger can be held responsible for the shooting death of someone who has no affiliation with the company and carried out by an individual that has absolutely no ties to Sturm and Ruger, why can't the States' Attorney be held responsible for the damages caused by a criminal released early by that office? I think that is more than fair. We need a legislative writer.
The only way you can control a jail populations is through force. Force = control. The cook county jail system lost that when they installed cameras everywhere in the jail. You think cameras retarded our job efforts. What do u think theyve done in the jail. The inmates are running the asylum at county, just ask any sheriffs.
12:42 am, they ARE running the nation (obozo). And it came close to at least 4 more years of an even worse insanity. Trump will start us on the road to turning it around but so much damage has been done in the last 8 that it will take a looooong time to unscrew it fully, if it's even able to be done.
12:42 am, they ARE running the nation (obozo). And it came close to at least 4 more years of an even worse insanity. Trump will start us on the road to turning it around but so much damage has been done in the last 8 that it will take a looooong time to unscrew it fully, if it's even able to be done.
Guess it's more fuck the victims here. Guess they don't deserve a county free of criminals.
Homicide/robbery/ sexual assaults go up and jail population goes down. Hmmm? Any connection there? Hello McFly!
If the Republicans got a Trump like candidate to run for mayor, he/she would probably win. All the cops and firemen and their families would vote for the Republican.
And best of all, the Republican mayor could send Rahm to jail.
They've just legalized every crime that is not a violent crime. This means that burglars, thieves, and other criminals won't be inconvenienced by incarceration. Where's the deterrent not to become a criminal? Nobody's going to bother you for being an offender.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
While prisoner levels are the lowest in 25 years, is there anything else going on that is at the highest levels in 25 years? I'm sure there has to be some correlation somewhere....
12/02/2016 12:22:00 AM
No correlation between street stops and shootings......
“Every effort needs to be made to be sure that people can keep working, attending school and caring for their families as they await trials.”
But they don't work, never have, dropped out of school and abandoned their children.
Duh, we know the jail is empty. That's why we have all these murders.
Putting Drug Dealers in jail Destroys familys.
“We know that holding people in jail destroys lives. Even a short period of pre-trial detention can result in the loss of your job or your home,” Preckwinkle said. “Every effort needs to be made to be sure that people can keep working, attending school and caring for their families as they await trials.” ..."
Mr. Preckwinkle's quote needs to be translated from liberalspeak- "Every effort needs to be made sure that the people can continue to keep working(dealing drugs, "just stealing cars", armed robberies, gang banging), attending school(skipping school) and caring for their families(neglecting your 4 children by way of 4 baby mamas, committing domestic batteries) as they await trials(skip court day)"
So Dart installs millions of dollars worth of high tech security cameras in buildings he intended to tear down??? hmmm and people wonder why this city/county/state have no money. I wonder who had the contract to install those cameras??
Yes, the hundreds and hundreds of "non-violent" people who are in jail need to be set free so that they can get back to their steady jobs and pay all those taxes they ( convicts) have been generating for society. They're missing school, work and all the good deeds they do which is evident by current state of da community.
Have to wonder who got the Contract to demolish the buildings, normally costs over $2 mil per structure from the looks of them.
Looney as a Liberal.
If there are no jails, the bad guys will turn good.
No jails means no crime. 26th & Cal will have a bowling alley since the halls will be empty.
A beautiful place in the city, Come to Chicago, we have no jails.
This will be a 2019 mayoral campaign sucess story...for the folks vote.
The new liberal slogan... " they are mentally ill". What a joke. Welcome to the twilight zone.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
All that real estate. Maybe they can build some nice condos for lawyers and stock brokers on the land.
12/02/2016 01:04:00 AM
How about Banger Cemetery..
OT: Shots fired at 400 while on duty at 2200hrs on 8800 block of Saginaw last night. Supposedly bosses car was shot up and mutts ran into their home causing a HBT situation.
BE VERY CAREFUL OUT THERE, THEY HAVE NO FEAR.
How about act and think like an adult human being. If I commit a crime I might get arrested. If I do then I will go to county awaiting trial. If this happens I might lose my job. If I lose my job I might not be able to support my family. The family that I AM RESPONSIBLE for bringing into this world. I need to be a man! I guess I won't commit this crime. Them none of the above becomes a concern to me. Oh shit, there I go again. I just can't comprehend the ghetto rat mentality. I must be a racist!
What's that old saying??? If you can't do the time, don't do the crime! SIMPLE
Correctional Officers...
It's your time to chime in on what really goes on behind those jail walls!
Toni "Sir-Ma'am" Prickwrinkle's decision
to empty Cook County Jail and keep it empty
is in no small part responsible for the
bloodletting we're seeing on Chicago's streets.
Tom "Half-Wit" Dart is just a bereft of morality,
craven, life-long opportunist and Chicago Democratic Machine
apparatchik who is trying to exploit the street violence
for his own political advantage.
But as always:
"The Police are the problem in Chicago...
Once we fix them, everything else will
fall into place."
So...let me get this straight...
Toni and her fan base believe that officers who are stripped should go into a no pay status throughout the course of the investigation into misconduct. But criminals should not have their lives interrupted in any way for criminal activity... Sounds logical.
If a criminal is going to be accused of a crime we need signed complaints(affidavit), but a criminal can make allegations against officers and no longer need sign an affidavit... Sounds logical.
No wonder 800 people will lose their lives in Chicago this year but all they care about is police being nicer to criminals. Its logical.....holy fuck me.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh god my sides hurt from laughing so hard
What did she just say?
Attending school,,,,, working,,,,,, oh it gets better wait for it .....
Taking care of families?????? BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Please stop it wrinkleprick your killing us
LITTERALLY
Yeah, people of color are being unjustly incarcerated
News flash you dumb fuck
If they were as you say, in school, working and taking care of families they wouldn't have time to kill over 700 and wound another four thousand would they?
We're fucked
The poor Heroin Addict that breaks into your home,He needs treatment not Incarceration,Pick my home meet your maker.
(OT) Hey Eddie maybe its the cans they are shooting at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXRM3lFRwRI
Now your mad they shot at a gold star 1 of your team but you say:
Top cop renews call for tougher gun penalties after commander shot at
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-gun-offenders-met-20161202-story.html
but then this in the story:
Johnson cited the incident as an example of how gang members have become more emboldened, in part because of what the superintendent considers lenient penalties for gun offenses.
"If these guys will shoot at a ... squad car, officers in uniform, then what do you think they fear about other gang members out there doing the same thing?" Johnson asked reporters at police headquarters.
MMMM Eddie, eddie could it be the main reason because they coppers are being bastardized by you, your gold star club, the dishonest 24/7 media, coppers being prosecuted and stripped for bullshit? How about a boss the head of this very dept. that allowed his girlfriend to cheat on the lietenannts exam along with her friends and they all get promoted disregarding the rule 14 which is lying?
Eddie could it be the kimmy foxx effect since she had commercials run when she was a candidate showing police officers doing their jobs and she talked how she was going to prosecute officers? Lets take a recent look at the sergeant that was stripped so quickly what happened with "innocent until proven guilty?" Your friend the punk activist jamal openly has threats on his facebook page along with officers picture, how is the 24/7 detail on that sergeants home? Surely it is in place because you brag your the "real police!" Correct?
Back in the day Crook County jail paid a daily fine for overcrowding because there were so many prisoners that they were sleeping on mattresses lining the hallways of the jail. Now prickwinkle is demolishing entire divisions but guess what has not changed and in fact increased, Crime. So any intelligent person would inquire how is this possible? Well our streets are the new jail. Offenders are being put back on the street of our fine city to cause more chaos while awaiting trial. This my friends is called manufactured violence. Manufactured by prickwinkle with the gracious assistance of Rahm, Cook County Judges, Eddie the Stripper, your do nothing alderman who care more about street signs than the violence that is killing and wounding the people they are suppose to be representing, Father Faker, Kim Fox and Tommy toupee. Who said that the manufacturing sector was dead in Chicago? The killing, wounding and accompanying violence that is being super manufactured here would make Henry Ford's head spin.
Dart can do no wrong because of all the media's relatives he hires. The guy is a total disaster. My buddy deals with some of the Rocket Docket releases Dart has done. He told me he knows of many who committed violent felonies after Dart has released them. He told me one Sheriff employee sent a entire file to the the Chicago Tribune and Suntimes of hundreds of criminals Dart released that went on to commit other crimes and the media totally buried the story.
God help us all
Car jacker, thief, mugger or drug dealer must count as professions.
NYTimes headline:
Despite Drop in Crime, an Increase in Inmates
By FOX BUTTERFIELDNOV. 8, 2004
Buy a gun and shoot back if you have to. Take America Back. So simple.
She's either a idiot or a crime boss.
Toni, when was the last time these animals had a job, attended school, or cared about their families?
"Holding people in jail destroys lives"
Letting people out of jail ends lives.
But hey, BLM, right!
NYTimes headline:
Despite Drop in Crime, an Increase in Inmates
By FOX BUTTERFIELDNOV. 8, 2004
12/02/2016 09:33:00 PM
Uhhhh, if they are in jail they aren't committing crimes, Alex?
That's correct!
Let's go back to "Corrupt Media for $400.00
Someone please tell Preckwrinkle: "Criminal activity comes with certain risks, including, arrest, prosecution, incarceration, injury, maiming, and even death. If any of this bothers you, your heirs, or loved ones: DON'T ENGAGE IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY!"
So if someone doesn't want their life destroyed by going to jail even for a little bit of pre-trial detention, then stop acting like a jagoff and don't commit crimes. Nothing to worry about then!
Here' the kicker kids. The bricks of thee old jails are from the turn of the 20th. century and have a very high demand for them Say like 140.00 plus a brick, most of the bricks has a resale value of 200.00. plus. A crazy ass brick worth tall $$. !! Europe contractors already got the contract haul them away free and build 10 mil plus mansions in Europe. The contractor has an Irish surname, well known in Europe and here.
Madigan and Dart can find treasures in rat crap and make a ton of $$.
Take a peep at the old jails walls in day light, no shit common bricks there. Do a little research on the value of bricks of old. !!
look at the RD#'s - we are only in the 500,000's
let them out that's fine
now I have 60 days to go to grand jury instead of 30
I hate grand jury
If this was restricted to people who could show they had a job to go to or school to attend, I'd be fine with it.
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