Corp Counsel Misconduct Again?
Hiding evidence seems to be part and parcel of the Corporation Counsel Office's job nowadays:
- A high-stakes wrongful-death trial alleging a code of silence in the Chicago Police Department took a dramatic turn Tuesday after documents suddenly surfaced mid-trial showing an off-duty detective was involved in a drunken bar fight nearly 17 years before he killed two young men in a fiery DUI crash on the Dan Ryan Expressway.
At an emergency hearing outside the presence of the jury, U.S. District Judge Virginia Kendall said the undisclosed report of former homicide Detective Joseph Frugoli’s 1992 arrest and five-day suspension went to the heart of the allegations against both Frugoli and the department that officers are inclined to cover up for wrongdoing by fellow cops.
“This is the damning report, and it comes up out of nowhere, six years after the beginning of the lawsuit,” an exasperated Kendall said. “It’s really a mess.”
Plaintiffs’ attorneys asked for immediate sanctions, including a possible directed verdict in their favor. After conferring in private with attorneys for both sides, however, Kendall announced that the trial would go on — though with incriminating new evidence that could cripple the city’s case.
So the plaintiff attorney begins the trial by quoting Rahm's completely unsupported assertion that there is a "code of silence" in the police department (this assertion will be used for the next two decades in order to sway jury settlements against the city). Then the plaintiff attorney brings in a convicted ex-cop who reveals an unknown five-day suspension from 1992 that the Corporation Counsel supposedly didn't know about. Finally, Corporation Counsel suddenly discovers a 115 page investigation that in essence, proves his contention.
A few observations:
A few observations:
- Corporation Counsel is completely incompetent and this "undiscovered" investigation ought to cost a few lawyers their jobs and their law licenses;
- The so-called "code of silence" always seems to be lead back to some connected or clouted individual whose wrongdoing was covered up, concealed or "disappeared." If more clout people were held accountable instead of covered for, maybe these things wouldn't be so damaging and the reputation of the Department wouldn't be destroyed;
- IAD should be considered the birthplace of the "code" since they're the ones burying the DUI's, domestics, thefts, sex scandals, harassment, gambling investigation and test cheating. In fact, they birthed the entire Lieutenant Cheating scandal when six or eight sergeants from IAD, all with ties to Wysinger's sergeant-wife made top twenty scores.
Get ready for another excessive payout which will be used to tar the entire Department, despite the fact that the only one actually benefiting from the "code" was another political animal with connections running back a generation or more.
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1992? 25 years ago and a 5 day rip in for a bar fight. Ok, Did he start the fight, or just win? Did the other party involved get arrested, charged, and sent to jail for age assault to P.O. or some malicious prosecutorial trumped up charge. what about the fiery crash that shouldn't have happened where two graffiti artists stopped their car on the expressway to add some color and flair to the roadway? What are the two rap sheets, of Pablo Picasso and Dali looking like. To bad they are dead, they could have designed a chicago city sticker to affix to every car windshield instead of just affixing themselves to one. A cover up ... Code of silence and he would never have been chargedSo the story is Bull Crap. As far as the Detective, he is no genius for drinking and driving, but its alll on him, he was off duty charge him, sue him. This should not be a city payout
Sad to say this but there is a Code of Silence, and we witnessed it with Rahm suppressing evidence to ensure his second term. Yep, the conspiracy was there starting with Jamie Roundtree, McCarthy, De-escalante, Fathead Ed and every exempt who saw the McDonald video.
However, it would be more correct to call that a Pink Ballerina Wall of Silence. Da Pin-Stripe wall of Silence was everything suppressed by Daley regarding the Parking Meter Deal and the failed "Lympics" bid. And then there was the Chicago Public School Wall of Silence when Rahm's handpicked head,hid the kick-backs she got, that landed her in Federal Prison. How about the Claypool Wall of silence over hiring a buddy's law firm, at a cost of about a million dollars. Yep, Chicago sure has a lot of Walls of Silence! And in the end, dummies like me pay for it with our tax dollars. Shitcaga is such a Great City. I am looking forward to someday soon seeing it in my rear view mirror. Stay safe, watch out for each other; because nobody else is. looking out for you. You have few friends these days. Baby "G"
"The Chicago Way."
And now Wysingers wife, Lt Marry-It All is on her way to Mass Transit aka Noble HQ. Detail effective Dec 10. She is in line to take over as Commander there when Cindy Sham retires.
•Corporation Counsel is completely incompetent and this "undiscovered" investigation ought to cost a few lawyers their jobs and their law licenses;
No shit Corp Council is completely incompetent!
Who do you think their lawyers are?
The students that got straight A's all went to high priced Law Firms or corporations, and are making big money.
The students that got A's & B's went to firms that make real good money.
The students that got B' & C's are out there making good money.
The C students are just that; mediocre. (probably become fbi agents)
The ones that barely passed Law School with C's & D's get some bullshit job with the Public Defenders office.
The ones that got more D's than C's get hired making $70K + benefits for the City of Chicago as Corp Council.
Do you honestly think that Corp Council is going to get some straight A student from Harvard or Yale to work for them?
Control those who enforce the law and you control upon whom the law will be enforced.
Control those who prosecute the imposed law and you control upon whom the imposed law will be prosecuted.
Control those who judge those who have had the law enforced upon, prosecuted and convicted and you control the consequences experienced by those who have been thusly handled.
The get out of jail card is alive and active.....and not just in a board game called, not so ironically, Monopoly.
As Chicagoan David Burge says,
1. Identify a respected institution.
2. kill it.
3. gut it.
4. wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect
How does it feel to be the disposable skin suit?
SIX fucking YEARS!? SIX!?
The Ghetto Lottery pays off in less than two!
Where else did the lawsuit fighting, lying, and stonewalling take years and years?
O, it was the Koschman lawsuit, wasn't it?
Chicago, screwing its law abiding, taxpaying citizens for almost one hundred years!
The average citizen doesn't know or care about clout or not. Everyone will be judged by the worst of an organization. It may be unfair, but it is a fact of life.
Yeah well why do you think so many of these IAD shit heads get promoted meritorious? The average guy is investigate by them and treated like a lump of shit, luckily you can rely on their stupidity to often fuck shit up. But they get to do a lot of favors for coppers who "have a guy". Its one of the best spots in the Dept. for the stupid and upwardly mobile. Do a favor for a Boss's kid, mistress, or connected guy, and before you know it a copy of test answers is in your hands.
What a jagoff phony Job. I have more respect for the dog shit I step in then IAD. But go ahead Fat Head Ed. Tell all those new kiddies its on the up and up.
He is friends of the Daley family lived in the 11 th Ward all his life ! It's the Chicago way
Seventeen years before he took five days for a drunken far fight? Bad research. No cover up.
This should have settled a long time ago. Corp Counsel had to know Frugoli was a dirt bag going waaay back, because everyone else on the department knew; so why not just offer a reasonable settlement? No, the corp counsel is going to hide documents, tarnish their reputation and risk their law license for what - a promotion in the Corp Counsel's office - hahahaha.
Corporation Counsel = lowest rung on the attorney ladder.
Corporation Counsel are the people who couldn't get a job in the private sector; couldn't get a job as a Cook County ASA, so they ended up as corp counsel in the worst city in the worst county in the United States.
I met Joe Frugoli back in 1995 when I got on the job. He was a real arrogant jag. Lived on 37th and Wallace with his parents. His dad wad also on the job. Another clouded jag
How can some attorney dig up a 1992 suspension, but the IG couldn't find one speck of evidence of cheating on promotional tests??
(OT) could this be another reason the rumors of Rahmleaving are true;
Journalist Jamie Kalven due in court in Laquan McDonald case
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/journalist-jamie-kalven-due-in-court-in-laquan-mcdonald-case
How many bosses will be finally exposed? How many that retired will be brought back in? What did the mayor know? This is going to get interesting, Jason's lawyer Herbert is doing a big dig and all of this will be epic!
Why not just admit that there has been and will always be a code to protect your own. Happens all the time in all walks of life. Your constant denial of the code is juvenile and self serving. Every citizen knows it exists in the CPD, State Police, Army, Navy, in any job where force might be necessary to preform job. The CPD has protected their own for whenever possible. Times are changing video evidence will be harder to conceal, the public has been less sympathetic towards police wrongdoing. The CPD needs to become much more transparent and accountable. You weed yourself of bad actors. The motto of see something say something, is the only way you will begin to win back public trust. Whistleblowers should be praised not shunned. Understand it's 2018 not 1960 you need to recognize this. Sorry for the negative post from a long time law enforcement supporter.
$32 million check.
RAHM needs to give theses ass-hat CORP COUNcil a class in hiding evidence!
But the media will not post any lawyers names or do a follow up on past complaints against the merit lawyers.
NOBODY finds it weird lawyers names and PIKS "aint" splashed a crossed the suntimes cover.
No reporters going to the City lawyers houses?
No posting of the lawyers salary or previous jobs in the City?
Great job RAHM? We call it inattention to duty if you lose a few hundred pages of reports. It reminds me of a clouted area North Clown who takes felony folders home and then forgets about it.
As practiced by the icky twerp Murder Mayor the "Code of Silence" is one of his cherished "Chicago Values", so counsler find a high chair and put him on the expert witness stand at the JVD trial...
Corporation Council gets the bottom of the barrel.
Mass exodus at Corp counsel in the last 6 months. Rich irony is that many left the state altogether. People are tiring of carrying water for Rahms insanity. SAO division handling Preckwinkles money hunt is also in shambles and without morale or guidance other than to find money by shaking down taxpayers. We may be stuck with both rahm and Toni for another long 4 years as both will essentially live the life of hated lame ducks with an edge and an agenda....and nothing to lose.....if they both get re-elected, it’s over.
Talent pool in Chicago is deep but you’d have to get out of the pool and into the mill foil-choked swamp water and nobody with talent would ever consider it. Has the end already been written?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The average citizen doesn't know or care about clout or not. Everyone will be judged by the worst of an organization. It may be unfair, but it is a fact of life.
12/06/2017 02:04:00 AM
You are absolutely correct.
The “code of silence” is blamed on the wrong people. It’s not the blue-shirts, it the white-shirts with the tacit approval of the hall, alderscum, corp. council.
12/06/2017 12:31:00 AM
Agree he was "off-duty" the city should say sorry your on your own,as we have seen before! but then again he is "connected" just like everything else in this corruption filled department! Wait for all the evidence in the JVD trial to come forth, rumors of rahm leaving, the heat is on! The exempts and bosses who signed off and quickly retired boys and girls you will be back soon in court:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU
How many of them are saying this now in front of their mirrors? And what about the infamous video of JVD incident who saw it when? Herbert may not be the most skilled lawyer but he is consulting with top people,as this will not only be a win for him,but a win for coppers like JVD who don't have the clout and were dumped on by the mayor,the 50,the fake revs and the dishonest media constantly!
The other day was talking to young "skulls full of mush" coppers and they were saying "I would never do anything like JVD did!" Told them everything happens in a split second and you will never know how to react unless your in that situation,the thug was armed high on PCP we know that,and many of us have dealt with PCP crazed animals,that is right it turns you into an unpredictable animal! No I was not "on scene" but have dealt with the PCP crazed,and the crazies the only thing predictable is that they are all unpredictable!
God Bless the police the thin Blue is all we have between total anarchy and some semblance of peace and safety! Always support the police!!
This judge is an idiot not to know that just about all professions have a code of silence.
Remember "Operation Greylord". For years the two groups of lawyers then known as the "Miracle Worker" fixed cases with a large group of crooked judges, remember how many were convicted and a few cut loose. The thing here is all of the other lawyer , judges , politicians knew about the corruption and did nothing. When I was in the police academy in 1972 the question was asked and the teacher a former States Attorney now in private practice told the class" don't worry about everybody else ,just get your slip and worry about yourself" hour for hour and no money by the way.
What about the Catholic Church sex scandal going on from as far back as the early sixties? Not a word from the priests, cardinals, lay teachers, janitors or even Fr Faker. Nobody knew nothing right?
Frugoli got 5 day suspension how is that covering up anything? The whole deal here is Frugoli don't have any money remember he has been in jail for the last 10 years. But the dim witted federal judge knows that the city has to be involved for her lawyer friends to make any money and of course the family of the two taggers will get the rest so they can possibly by more paint. As the system goes on.
A Code of Silence on this department is a joke. It’s always been worse than a sewing circle. People watch too much television.
U.S. District Judge Virginia Kendall said the undisclosed report of former homicide Detective Joseph Frugoli’s 1992 arrest and five-day suspension went to the heart of the allegations against both Frugoli and the department
And yet during the trial of the illegal immigrant who shot and killed Kate Steinle, her lawyers could not use the documented fact that the offender had been deported 5 times in the past and had been arrested on numerous occasions in that same time period. All of which went to the "heart of the allegations" against him.
I wish they would hurry up and build that wall. Once that's done they can start on walling off California from the rest of us.
What’s the deal with the transfer order 10 bid spots in certain units and then they send the same amount if not more under management spots. Isn’t there a certain percentage of only management spots?
That don't mess with the Frugoli quote is classic.
I don't know who his clout was but given how he managed to get away with t boning a police car while off duty I gotta figure he had some.
More often than not when a Chicago cop gets his balls in a ringer for some off duty stupidity he has some serious clout. Sometimes they even have recent DUI's before being hired and that rule against hiring is treated more like a mild suggestion or perhaps a hint.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And now Wysingers wife, Lt Marry-It All is on her way to Mass Transit aka Noble HQ. Detail effective Dec 10. She is in line to take over as Commander there when Cindy Sham retires.
12/06/2017 01:00:00 AM
Someone on the blog predicted this months ago
Don’t see how they can let Cindy retire. She is doing a fine and in the future the citizens of Chicago night see an officer riding a train
Anonymous Anonymous said...
1992? 25 years ago and a 5 day rip in for a bar fight. Ok, Did he start the fight, or just win? Did the other party involved get arrested, charged, and sent to jail for age assault to P.O. or some malicious prosecutorial trumped up charge. what about the fiery crash that shouldn't have happened where two graffiti artists stopped their car on the expressway to add some color and flair to the roadway? What are the two rap sheets, of Pablo Picasso and Dali looking like. To bad they are dead, they could have designed a chicago city sticker to affix to every car windshield instead of just affixing themselves to one. A cover up ... Code of silence and he would never have been chargedSo the story is Bull Crap. As far as the Detective, he is no genius for drinking and driving, but its alll on him, he was off duty charge him, sue him. This should not be a city payout
Has to be a city payout. That’s where the money is. What are they going to get from a guy sitting in jail?
Was at court the other day cop and ASA trying to figure out a date for continuance on the case. ASA giving dates but they weren’t good for the copper. You can tell she was getting pissed and finally barks out “I’ll just Nolle the case and you can have a lawsuit on your hands” WTF
nonymous said...
And now Wysingers wife, Lt Marry-It All is on her way to Mass Transit aka Noble HQ. Detail effective Dec 10. She is in line to take over as Commander there when Cindy Sham retires.
12/06/2017 01:00:00 AM
Mass Transit, a terrible unit, full of a lot of slackers
Don’t the records get purged after 5 years??
All that stuff worked for Hillary Clinton. She almost got to be president, except enough voters recognized a lying, two-faced, backstabbing, greedy bitch in time to stop it.
J.J.
request all emails , personal and city telephones of mayor , bodyguards , command staff , unit co's and IPRA
Civilian here.
Before you dump on the Corporation Counsel's office, better check and see whether they are ones defending this case.
You will notice that the Sun-Times' article refers to "city attorneys" or "city lawyers." This is telling, because, for the last several years, the City of Chicago has hired "outside" attorneys to take cases to court. Why? It's a form of grey pin-striped patronage - a way for Rahm to "thank you" to big law firms for their support. Also, it's because of situations just like this.
Let me explain.
Those outside attorneys don't understand the internal workings of the Chicago Police Department or its' records department. Some of the CPD bigwigs and other politicos don't like anyone outside the department asking for records. In many cases, a records request made by the Corporation Counsel's office, or lawyers hired by the city, or in response to a subpoena better be specific, otherwise the records department plays the game of "Battleship." Only produce exactly what is asked for and nothing more.
It's only speculation, but I suspect this is what happened here.
As the article points out, it was Frugoli who insisted - during his own testimony - that he had been suspended by the CPD for something that happened 15 years ago. One of the plaintiff's attorneys - probably the person who drafted the production request - remembered that a request for Frugoli's disciplinary records had been made. Who knows whether such a report was requested or whether a time period was specified. Perhaps that was open to interpretation and the CPD's records department erred on the side of not producing those documents, rather than handing them over. It was probably at that point in the trial that the judge was informed that something hadn't been turned over and ordered the CPD to produce the report.
By the way, please don't sell the attorneys in the Corporation Counsel's office short. At least back in the 1980s and 1990s, under Nick Trovato, you had some of the finest and most experienced federal trial lawyers working there. Just ask the People's Law Office.
The motto of see something say something, is the only way you will begin to win back public trust. Whistleblowers should be praised not shunned. Understand it's 2018 not 1960 you need to recognize this. Sorry for the negative post from a long time law enforcement supporter.
12/06/2017 06:56:00 AM
Looks like this guy just crawled out from under his rock & is new to reading the blog . Because all the answers he needs has been said over & over again by SCC. Great job SCC. Keep telling the truth . Keep exposing these corrupt democrats , politicians, bosses, & clouted Democrat officers that never should of been on the job
Corp. counsel is completley unethical. They'll do whatever Rahm says.
"Code of Silence" = blah blah blah - don't look at the man behind the curtain, I am the great and all powerful R A H M *thunderclap* *puff of smoke*
Seriously - this happened 15 years ago, even 6 yrs ago when the suit began, it was still 10 yrs after the guy supposedly got a DUI forgiven...
The question shouldn't be about THAT nonsense, but rather what his life was like AFTER that. Did he remain a drunk? Did he beat his wife and kids? Did he kidnap kittens and resell them to chinese restaurants? Was he a "bad" guy or was he a fine upstanding member of da community? You know - after he got that chance and turned his life around...
If he was no longer driving drunk - then what he'd done 10 yrs before was IRRELEVANT and ought not to be dredged out of the depths of the 7th circle of hell...But I suppose THAT wouldn't support a meritless case, so here we are...
Finally, let this serve as a lesson to you - when you're no longer LEGALLY required to preserve documents, SHRED THE DAMN THINGS. Don't keep it around just waiting for someone to go fishing for...
This is just a preview of the 'missing' documents that will disappear (and Maybe reappear) pinpointing what Rahm knew and when he knew it - when the JVDyke trail begins.
If you are going to be a jagoff, at least be a factual jagoff. Joe or his parents never lived on 37th and Wallace dumb fuck.
I met Joe Frugoli back in 1995 when I got on the job. He was a real arrogant jag. Lived on 37th and Wallace with his parents. His dad wad also on the job. Another clouded jag
Why not just admit that there has been and will always be a code to protect your own. Happens all the time in all walks of life. Your constant denial of the code is juvenile and self serving. Every citizen knows it exists in the CPD, State Police, Army, Navy, in any job where force might be necessary to preform job. The CPD has protected their own for whenever possible. Times are changing video evidence will be harder to conceal, the public has been less sympathetic towards police wrongdoing. The CPD needs to become much more transparent and accountable. You weed yourself of bad actors. The motto of see something say something, is the only way you will begin to win back public trust. Whistleblowers should be praised not shunned. Understand it's 2018 not 1960 you need to recognize this. Sorry for the negative post from a long time law enforcement supporter.
Yes, there is a culture of protection in every profession- even doctors, who by the way, are very well insulated from "medical mistakes" resulting in patient deaths. Hospital administration does not readily disclose information on these events and families of the deceased are rarely made aware that negligence was a contributing factor in their loved ones' demise. CDC reports over 200K deaths/yr are due to medical mistakes, and that is just what is documented -- they estimate the true number much higher. If you saw this nugget of info being reported on a nightly basis, people would be demanding all kinds of reform, transparency, and oversight of the medical profession, but that news isn't as sensational as "police shooting/gunned down/killed unarmed (fill in the blank)". I don't know about how they protect their own in other professions, but in CPD it is always the one who is politically connected who is covered. Whether by blood relation to very high ranking bosses, politicians, or in close association to exempts and family, they are the untouchable few who know no consequence and act accordingly. In fact, not only do they protect the authority abusing incompetence, they promote it here. Just look at what you have running the department.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And now Wysingers wife, Lt Marry-It All is on her way to Mass Transit aka Noble HQ. Detail effective Dec 10. She is in line to take over as Commander there when Cindy Sham retires.
12/06/2017 01:00:00 AM
Remember kids....................we are a transparent department. It's all legit.
According to Jason Meisner's piece, (Judge Rebukes City in Cop's Trial) city politicians and bureaucrats habit of withholding public information has cost the taxpayers, not the city, over $1,000,000 in the last six years for discovery-related penalties. Why has nobody been indicted or at least fired for costing us taxpayers a million-plus dollars? In the Frugoli trial this deception is likely to cost us millions more and yet those responsible will hold on to their jobs which, by the way, pay them on average 30-40% more than the average person working in the private sector.
Although a civil case, this amounts to more Anti-Police witch hunt stuff.
Maybe they can call CO’PRA to the stand for expert testimony.
Let’s not forget the dead graffiti artists would still be alive if they weren’t tagging walls on the expressway, regardless who struck their vehicle.
I don’t recall if the two dead were also drunk at the time too, but DUI’s are now routinely given judicial leniency and passes.
Crackheads and drunks drive anyway after their DL is Suspended or Revoked, NO PENALTY-NOT NEWS-NO INVESTIGATIONS.
Another file folder taken home?
The only Code of Silence existing and operating is everything Democrats try hiding and just about everything they do isn’t done in secret. When when they’re caught up in shit - deny, deny, deny, lie and leave office hoping the DOJ doesn’t catch up.
If asked, Rahms Office will play the victim and will blame a previous administration.
A Code of Silence amongst police officers. What about the Code of Silence amongst attorneys, judges, politicians and reporters. What a fucking joke I mean a real fucking joke!
just like the pension board ...... Sorry officer you never had surgery because we have no record. Beat it. Next
To 3:07. You still won't address the code. Instead you are focused on crooked politicians, bosses, democrats ect. Just saying that there are problems within the CPD that need to see the light of day. Only way that happens if someone with balls breakers the code when necessary. Call out the crooks in all areas by name. Be willing to go on record with the media you all seem to hate, with good reason. Only way things will change and get better is to open the can of worms. They wouldn't be talking about some old crap if it had been handled properly in the first place, instead of being hidden under the rock you referenced. So if you see something or suspect something investigate and say something. Otherwise all you do is continue to give ammunition to your detractors. Perception of a code of silence becomes reality when even one cover up for a brother in arms becomes public, and in this day and age it will become public. You might be helping out one blue brother but your hurting all the other brothers in blue when the misdeeds become public knowledge. May not be fair or right but the way it is.
It's not just clouted individuals that are protected it's all coppers. And there is basically nothing wrong with trying to help a brother out and maybe saving his job. Like previous posters have stated it's done in many arenas. But, nowadays it's become almost suicidal what with all the video and audio proof that is available so you best really like an individual before you stick your neck out for somebody else.
A code of silence? Really. Lest we forget that this is the police department that ‘lost’ over 48,000 Case reports during the Rodriguez regime.
This is the department whose superintendent ordered several hundred Compac desk top computers, only to keep them stacked up in the hallways of the police headquarters. Keeping them there sooo long that the warranties expired; then ordered the department ‘disconnected’ from the internet thereby eliminating any possibility of using e-mails for communicating with other officers, or g-d forbid the public. Kudos Hillard! Later...we can talk about what’s been going on for the last ten years. Code of incompetence is more like it.
Another civilian here like Anonymous at 2:52 said...
I'm sorry SCC, but you're flat out wrong on this one. This case wasn't tried by Corp Counsel; it was tried by an outside law firm. A quick review of the docket in the case makes that crystal clear. Kinda takes a bit wind out of the sails of your "Corp Counsel is completely incompetent" line, huh? Just like the news coverage of cops, you don't ever hear about the good things Corp Counsel does for CPD day in and day out - just the bad. Given the sheer number of cases filed against CPD every year v. the number of Corp Counsel handling those cases v. cases like this, I'd say it's pretty impressive what Corp Counsel is able to do for CPD on a regular basis. And, in case you forgot, you are a direct beneficiary of that good work, and so benefited free of charge in terms of the 100% taxpayer funded defense you receive. So, maybe consider getting your facts straight next time before you decide to baselessly impugn the good name of the people whose job it is to defend you in theses cases.
Isn't the plaintiffs attorney suggesting that the department never disciplined the officer and therefore allowed him to get worse and ultimately kill those two poor guys in the car ? But now there is proof that the city did discipline him. Seems like this actually hurts the plaintiffs case
Remember kids....................we are a transparent department. It's all legit.
12/06/2017 05:25:00 PM
Excessive transparency explains why all I see is assholes.....and I'm not even looking......I swear......
Anonymous said...
nonymous said...
And now Wysingers wife, Lt Marry-It All is on her way to Mass Transit aka Noble HQ. Detail effective Dec 10. She is in line to take over as Commander there when Cindy Sham retires.
12/06/2017 01:00:00 AM
Mass Transit, a terrible unit, full of a lot of slackers
Bring back Graeber or Chambers
"So, maybe consider getting your facts straight next time before you decide to baselessly impugn the good name of the people whose job it is to defend you in theses cases."
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It's far from baseless Asshat.
Blogger SCC said...
"So, maybe consider getting your facts straight next time before you decide to baselessly impugn the good name of the people whose job it is to defend you in theses cases."
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It's far from baseless Asshat.
12/07/2017 04:51:00 AM
It is baseless if in fact an outside law firm was hired to defend this case. How can you blame the corporation counsel for a case they didn’t represent.
Anonymous said...
Isn't the plaintiffs attorney suggesting that the department never disciplined the officer and therefore allowed him to get worse and ultimately kill those two poor guys in the car ? But now there is proof that the city did discipline him. Seems like this actually hurts the plaintiffs case
12/07/2017 12:00:00 AM
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It helps the plaintiff's case. The department should have fired the officer. It, also, destroys the credibility of the city because the incident was not disclosed. But your argument has some merit, not enough to save the city.
Anonymous said...
Don’t the records get purged after 5 years??
12/06/2017 12:14:00 PM
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Maybe and maybe not (not likely that a suspension for serious misconduct will get purged), that does not mean that the incident never happened.
Anonymous said...
nonymous said...
And now Wysingers wife, Lt Marry-It All is on her way to Mass Transit aka Noble HQ. Detail effective Dec 10. She is in line to take over as Commander there when Cindy Sham retires.
12/06/2017 01:00:00 AM
Mass Transit, a terrible unit, full of a lot of slackers
Bring back Graeber or Chambers
12/07/2017 03:06:00 AM
Chambers is a flat out stroke. The ONLY people who like him are professional ball bag holders. He'll be an inspector til he gone because nobody can stand him.
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