Again?
We were hoping we had turned a corner with the holidays in the rear view mirror for this year:
An off-duty Chicago police detective was found dead Friday afternoon inside his Mount Greenwood home, according to police and sources.
The 59-year-old was found unresponsive with a gunshot wound to the head about noon inside a home in the 3900 block of West 104th Street, Chicago police said. He was pronounced dead at the scene.
Years ago, we moved the Police Chaplains website link up to the #2 spot, just under the FOP link in the right hand margin, almost exclusively because they have the full list of EAP links there and we wanted to make it easier to find for those seeking it.
Prayers for the Detective, his family, co-workers and friends.
Labels: officer injured
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
90 Comments:
THIS JOB is NOT YOUR LIFE
R.I.P. Detective , your work is done.
We got it from here.
It sucks what this job does to you., sad.
Just heard a trooper was killed again.
Sad, another tragedy.
I am so sorry to hear that CPD pushed yet another officer over the edge. Prayers for the family and friends, that memories will be a blessing to all.
So sorry for this loss of life .What is it with our Profession? All we do is try to help People and we don't seek help for our selves!
I totally understand how someone could feel so helpless with shitty bosses and being lied to constantly. Nothing is fair or on the job. Working hard is for suckers. I know! I was once one!
Just do what you have to and retire. No bosses really care. If they did they wouldn’t feed you BS and treat you like shit.
I came close to doing it. :(
So sad....RIP
Terrible. Condolences to the family
Too sad.
Chicago's Finest,
The problem is with left wing progressive policies and all the mayhew they spawn -- not you. In their minds you're just the cleanup crew. Don't take it out on yourselves. Your family and colleagues will be hurt the most. There's no shame in seeking help for a problem you can't solve on your own.
We weren't allowed to have a voice on Illinois becoming a sanctuary state. We currently have nothing in place to ecall an incompetent mayor. But we can vote on the state flag. Ahh, sweet freedom!
This is terrible. After every cloudy day, the sun does shine. Personally, we all have gone through stress, but you must go forward and get through it somehow. Just saddens me. Prayers for all involved and those in the cloth (that I've known) are excellent listeners. Know this from personal experience.
He was not the first in recent years from 620, this job combined with personal drama is poison.
The Department, IAD and COPA can Push you to do this type of action. They are All out to Hurt You!!
Sadly, and unfortunately according to statistics, more law enforcement officers die by their own hands in suicide than murder annually. There is H O P E ...
(Hang On Pain Ends) and help. God Bless all who serve and suffer.
RIP
He was a detective in Area 2 on 2nd watch, he committed suicide late Friday morning. Received the email from the sup later that day. I was expecting to come into work (Saturday) and see EAP, peer support or even the clinician assigned to area 2. I thought maybe our commander would be there, maybe she would buy food for us or offer support or something but nope! There was no one there, it was just like any other day as if nothing happened. Then the wonder why we are killing ourselves at a 70% higher rate than any other law enforcement agency in the nation. Moral is in the toilet, no one cares about us, it’s sad what these politicians, Hollywood and the citizens have done to this profession! Shame on our exempt members for not sticking up for us more, they are tone deaf. But yet they showed the videos at the compstat meeting this week of the officers being chased in their squad car around the district and of the red corvette doing donuts in front of the marked squad before slamming into the front end of the squad and taking off and the officers not taking any action. The sup and chief of patrol criticized the officers and not one boss spoke up and explain why the officers didn’t take action, we are demoralized and defeated. God forbid if they took action, they surely would take a suspension, be fired or charged.
You are not alone, I think we all have come close to doing it at one time or other. Why didn’t I? Because I refuse to lose and let them win. I refuse to quit on my kids!!! I gave it one more day and I survived. If you always give it more day, you will survive, never quit, and never let them win!
Retired seven years ago at 55 with nearly thirty three years on. Seen this happen many, many times. No one ever sees this coming. Most can't explain why. Alcohol use usually plays a large part of it. Things that make no sense make more sense when your drunk. This is just a job. That's it. JUST A JOB. People who work at McDonald's have it rough. Usually don't get paid enough. Even though there isn't any data on suicide rates among these people I'm pretty sure they're not as bad as CPD. IT'S JUST A JOB. LEAVE IF YOU'RE THAT UNHAPPY. Don't blame shit politics and shit bosses for your misery. Or even that shit ex (wife, husband etc, whatever) either. JUST LEAVE. Go in peace and continue with your life. Wherever that takes you. This job is transitory. Just like graduating from high school or leaving the military you'll keep in touch with a handful of people. It doesn't define you. If you're not happy here then go somewhere else. ITS JUST A JOB.
He had a stroke ran out of medical. He had enough time and age to retire but thought this was a better solution.
Hang in there, I worked at Area 2 a long time ago, just remember the police dept administration is not and never will be your friend. It’s us against them.
Find a priest or a clinician away from the job, that’s what I did. Today it’s okay to see a clinician and receive medical support through medication . Can’t hold it against you at random drugs. Take care of yourself, us old guys pray for the active guys and girls.
Really? Wrong place for your stupid comment.
Tell that to the 95%+ that worship the "lifestyle"....
IAD act’s as if they are playing a game. They are manipulators and liars who do the bosses bidding. The whole unit is comprised of mainly Sgt’s who are afraid to be on the streets. The whole unit is tainted and should be disbanded. Only if everyone knew what was going on they would be closed down. Never trust them.
It’s a shame. If pressures of the job become so bad, hit the medical and if that doesn’t help, retire if you have the age. Better than this. God bless the detective
please don't
Yes, very sad, that a job could destroy a person. Above the new a academy entrance should read “ abandon all hope ye who enter here”. A lot of people never leave this job the way they came in. Most are a shell of what they were. Evil comes into your life in many forms on this job. Hope is what you lose when you commit suicide. I can’t imagine the feeling of hopelessness. I totally understand how people get there with bad bosses, the nature of the job and the demands of trying to do a good job. This is truly thankless job. Too sad a good caring person takes their own life. All while coming into work daily, helping others so they can have a better quality of life. Agree; Too sad!
EAP too busy? You dropped the ball. FOP has an ombudsman where was he or anyone else on the 2.5 million dollar payroll? Commander shame on you.
I’m sorry that no one was there for your unit . Another copy and paste email that really means nothing. Sad.
A lot of Bosses have blood on there hands making a horrible work environment. A good boss who doesn’t stress everyone out for their own enjoyment and doesn’t pit people against each other. This job comes with a lot of stress and family and friends are the key to getting through the hardships of this job. When that part of your life becomes messed up it as if you have nothing. I regret that this will continue again and again.
Please reach out fort help if needed. The Well on Higgins is a great place to start
Buddy I know is a Bank Dick in the Loop and complains about response time. Keep telling him to find something else. God Bless Your Watch is Over
Well said.
don’t do it brother. it’s not worth it.
do you really need the commander to come there and buy you food to make you feel better??? did you really write that??
I don’t want any of my children to come on this job. I love them too much for this job to change them.
It was the same in forensics a few years back. I was told EAP was there briefly for first watch. Other than that it was business as usual and like it never happened. Commander & other bosses never even addressed roll calls. It was handled poorly to say the least. The only one with an ounce of sense was the poor Sgt who found him & made sure the ET'S didn't process & requested it be handled by the state. RIP ET P.R
Sadly for some it is their only life until they retire. Some even feel lost in retirement. A lot of retired officers suffer from PTSD and have their head on a swivel just leaving their home walking to their car! A work police officer sees and hears the worst of mankind and it affected them to the point that they are not the same person they were. In time you lose the Innocence you once had!
Ptsd is real.First responders are not super human.
Very well put. The police are not allowed to do police work and god forbid if there’s a use of force incident then the coppers will be hung out to dry and be looking at taking excessive suspension time and possibly losing their job. The Supe and his lackey, Jon Hein have no clue what real police work is because neither has done any police work. This place is joke. Collect your checks and do the bare minimum.
The job is a job, nothing else. Do what you gotta do and know that retirement is awesome. Look long term. Stay safe
So true. It’s a department of rhetoric and dirty politics. Never a true ounce of fairness or honesty
And it’s all Democrat Party related
HELLinois. Everything rigged by the Evil Ones.
Just being in the state of Illinois and Chicagoland is stressful enough in itself
Where did you see or hear this?
Condolences to the family and everyone who knew this man.
And PLEASE… quit referring to these motherfuckers as “bosses”. They are nothing more than supervisors, and the majority of them are pathetic cowards who wouldn’t know what qualities make a “Boss” if it hit them on their useless ass.
And in case you haven’t yet noticed, the majority of supervisors don’t give a fuck about anything but themselves. The sooner you understand this, the sooner some of your illusions about this “career” will come into focus. This is a JOB. A means to an income and healthcare and (hopefully) a pension when it’s your time to hang it up. Nothing more.
Anyone can hold the title of supervisor. Very few will ever be a Boss.
Cold hearted boss. Unreal. . . though par for the course. Stay strong. Strong enough to give them the finger upon retirement or lateral move. They cannot win.
100 percent correct about the supervisors.
do you really need the commander to come there and buy you food to make you feel better??? did you really write that??
1/12/2025 12:16:23 PM
It did have to be food, it’s showing an act of kindness, being there for your employees, its what a leader does, but most of our bosses lack leadership skills
You are not the police or never worked the streets. But I will say if true about having had a stroke and put of medical, looking around at quality of life and care to be received. ..
Agreed 100 % and 1000 % on the stupid visir Not nor ever a real boss
Prayers to you Detective May you find the peace that you couldn’t endure here. I pray for your soul & may God bless your family during this difficult time..
So true
Many times it’s not the job. It’s gambling,divorce,alcohol and drug abuse . Sometimes it can be a serious illness. If depressed talk to a fellow officer,friend,family or call 988 .suicide hotline
you expected DB to care? shes too worried about restricting overtime.
You are 59 years old and served your community for 1/2 you life. pull the pin and enjoy your life.
I see opsa is looking for 54 cpd timkeepers.
Sadly maybe this will help others seek help before they do something.
⬆️ What he or she said ⬆️.
I hear you and understand your heartache but dont wait for others to act .. step up and lead by example. I’m sure your co workers would have appreciated a moment of silence or you could have called EAP and made sure they were there. We have the power to influence others that’s how we survive each day. Don’t be afraid to gather your coworkers and have that moment to express your feeling, we are unique in our job and environment, we spend more time with each other and criminals than our families, we need to get back to knowing that we are our family and hold on to each other and allow ourselves to be vulnerable when we feel weak or need help. I pray everyday for all of us. May God welcome our brother into his arms and may Gods glory heal him.
Wasnt the stroke duty related after so much time on the job..?
The department and city doesnt give a fxxk and why should they? Just look at the pathetic mandatory “Wellness” in service training. When I inquired why there isn’t 1st watch hours to attend I was told no instructor would agree to stay and work midnights. So essentially FU, your sleep schedule and your wellness 1st watch officers. Hit the medical.
Sorry, wrong thread....
Please don’t- 100% of survivors thank God they survived and say they regretted as soon as they did it!! Also look up Bill Weise 23 min in hell! And Mary Baxter! You have a purpose!!!! Seek The Lord there is hope!
Cry me a river....
I can see how CPD can push some officers over. The CPD has become a horrible place to work. The only thing good about this place Is the thought of getting a pension. Years ago, sworn and civilian members postponed their retirement just to stay and work amongst friends and good bosses. Today, more and more members are retiring with 20 years or less. I can’t see how the current CPD administration doesn’t see this as problematic. It’s becoming more and more clearer that he’s just buying time.
Many members had hopes that Supt. Snelling would bring about positive change within the department only to find that he’s a major part of the corruption. He’s the ring master of this circus. Many were almost certain that he would clean up the BIA and the corruption that plagues the unit only to find that he has given Chief Talley a free hand to carry out the corruption. He attend meetings and talk about reform, but he has made no steps toward reform other than to recommend that the police board agrees with his decision to fire officers (9161).
I certainly can see how officers walk around feeling as though they’re on an emotional roller coaster and in an abusive relationships with the department (shitty narcissistic bosses, incompetent clouted exempt staff members, cap on overtime, being passed over for promotion, watching the incompetent get promoted, days off cancelled regularly, new senseless directives posted daily, attending repeated in-person trainings, receiving threats about bump cards and other foolishness).
The way Commander D Blanton has put a cap on the overtime, he would’ve been able to make any anyway. She’s forcing detectives to force everyone into a days work. This has prevented detectives from doing a thorough job, and from being flexible with citizens’ availability for interviews to proceed with investigations. Detectives are holding out to see if she’s going be moved, but damn the shit is taking too long.
The IAD will get better when Yolanda Talley leaves. She made her 30 years on January 3, 2025 and she’s 57 years old. We had cake & coffee for four of her closest people including the commander of the IAD/ Recruitment this month alone.
Hello limited duty
The era of real bosses is gone nothing but a laughable clown show we don’t respect them absolutely not look at the way they look DEI fat slobs out of shape nope sorry respect is earned not granted and these idiots with the gold stars that are doing nothing but stealing a pension Respect them come on man
You cannot compare workers at McDonalds to what police officers see, do and deal with!
It’s the overall non-stop negativity that pushes many over the edge. CPD is the most negative place on earth at times.
Recently retired here. I seriously think that the department actually does less today than they used to. There was a day when a chaplain would come out to the officer's unit or at least an EAP rep. to encourage someone to seek help. I was in a unit where three officers ended things inside of two years. And today, morale is even worse. Put the bottle down, and seek a higher power if you are even thinking of doing something like this, please...
Nearly 20% of coppers have serious problems. Debt, sick family members, alcoholism, lawsuits, medical problems, physical pain, divorce, emotional anguish, and on. The department and many bosses are the crulest to those members as they suffer in silence. It's tragic and pathetic that one day a boss will berate, mock, and target a copper in a fit of egotistical revenge, and the next give a disingenuous speech about EPA and looking out for each other. Yes, they bare some of the blame.
No, this job is not your life. However, it is a different job than most and it consumes a lot of your time. I dedicated 27 years to this job and I loved it (obviously not the moron bosses and stupid policies). I've now been retired 2 years and it's tough not being the police anymore. I really do miss many aspects of the job. It hasn't consumed me but it can be tough at times. You become forgotten by many people you worked with and of course the job doesn't care that you're gone. Your accomplishments are long forgotten.
He was sideswiped by another vehicle but he wasn't killed.
I had 27 years on the job and retired at 50. I have never one day regretted my decision. There is life after the job and insurance is not as expensive as everybody thinks. Think of yourself first. RIP Officer
I spent many years on the job and found the best way to survive was to try and no let things upset you if there is nothing you can do to change them. Also try and look at the good side. If OT is restricted think about all the po’s complaining about all the do being cancelled and 12 hour days
And last if possible read the new policies and orders and the. try to work your way around them so you don’t get frustrated
Godspeed, Detective…
If you need help, get it. Leave the job if necessary. I do not miss a thing about the job( except the people). But, call or text them. Have lunch or coffee with them. There are so many things to do after this job. Volunteer somewhere, so many places need help.
Not all of the problems are work related as the above comments state
Like lt MK in 004 always making everyone on edge. That contributes to these type of situations. He would never go to bat for anyone. Time for him to leave
*everything
Yes health insurance is expensive. It goes up every year you age. If you want a BCBS policy similar to what you had on the job, you will start paying $800 a month and be paying $1500 a month by the time you are 60. Signed a retired cop living it right now.
Not all problems are work-related. There are many sworn members going through a messy divorce.
What’s taking YT so long to leave?
Commander Blanton can’t come to work and support her members after an officer’s death, but she sure can call members on their furlough about a damn case. She’s sure is hands on when it comes to the overtime.
You shouldn’t have expected anything more from Commander Blanton. Hopefully she and a few other Exempts will be gone soon. Hang in there Area 2. Stick together.
Leave Illinois....that BS stopsat the border. BCBC has owned Illinois for some time now. Insurance cost should be 450.00-750.00
I also left at 50 a few years ago, and you are correct. Health insurance doesn't have to be expensive. Talk to a health insurance broker (yes, that's a thing). Taking the city's insurance was NEVER a consideration for me. I pay less than $400 a month for health insurance (and no, my cost does not go up every year). Do your own research and shop around if you are serious about leaving before age 55.
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