No More Rescues?
One part of us says it's logical. (link from Illinois Review fixed)
The other part wonders, especially as the population ages, more people live alone and not everyone knows their neighbors:
- In a dazzling display of bureaucratic brilliance, the City of Chicago has rolled out a new policy for the Chicago Fire Department that essentially boils down to this: Unless you’re visibly on fire, you’re on your own.
The new general order, effective June 28, 2025, sets a brave new standard for how Chicago responds to residential fires under seven stories tall. Under this policy, firefighters are prohibited from entering a burning building unless there is visual confirmation of someone inside—or if someone radios in to say there might be.
This isn’t satire. This is Chicago.
The directive uses a lot of fancy words like “Defensive Operations,” “incident command,” and “scene size-up,” but the bottom line is crystal clear: if you’re unconscious from smoke inhalation (which, incidentally, is how most people actually die in fires), you better hope you’re unconscious in a window.
Obviously, we don't want firefighters risking their lives needlessly.
But how do they (or anyone) know what is and isn't needless without first person information gathered on scene directly, promptly and fully?
It's a weird tightrope to walk.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
13 Comments:
So they only hit the place with water from the outside?
At some time they have to go in the building correct?
Sounds like a good start.
Let EVERYTHING burn in this city and then get the hell out.
Eager cops can run in to burning buildings and act like heroes for a cheap life saving award. That’s right, it’s been cheapened, I’ve seen those awarded for distributing water bottles during a heat wave. CFD have the mayor/CPS union on their side, it’s Chicago so the club protect their own. Ever since CFD Captain(RIP) was crushed by a 10 ton metal beam in a burning garage. Policies are put in place to make sure it doesn’t happen again.
Waiting for new General Order/Special Order to drop :
“Responding officers shall enter and clear the first seven floors of an engulfed structure and immediately advise OEMC of any occupants inside so rescue can be dispatched”.
Ot:
Isn't it time to declare the lake closed due to high bacteria counts. +88 degrees with a high probability of a lead shower later in the evening
So the Second Responders are now moving into the No Responders category.
After the first ghetto fire where firefighters are standing outside with their collective thumbs up their skirts, thereupon leaving after following said policy and the next morning comes to find out someone died from smoke inhalation, the first lawsuit will cause the policy to be revoked. And if not the above fire, then the next or even the next, but when children die, who cut school, the media, the public and the law suits for the children will break the City’s bankroll causing the policy to be changed. Heads would roll as a result.
kinda like the no foot chases
I found this on the Chicago Contrarian X account but not on their website.
“ New policy at CFD, and it's a doozy.
Under a new order, CFD responding to all residential fires at buildings under 7 stories are to approach the art of fighting fires in the most risk-averse way.
This new order places restrictions under which CFD can enter a burning building.
In sum, the new guidelines state CFD must observe a victim inside or have confirmation from an OEMC dispatcher or on-scene witness a victim remains inside a burning structure before entering the building.
This new policy means CFD, who under ordinary circumstances would have likely entered the burning structure to aggressively battle the fire and search for occupants of the home, are now essentially spectators to structures burning to the ground.
This is what CFD now refers to as "Defensive Operations."
In other words, if you are trapped in a fire in Chicago and you are not visible to CFD, you'll have to fend for yourself.
The video attached captures a blaze on the NW Side of Chicago today.
This fire is believed to have started on a back porch, but there was no report of residents trapped in the home.
Note the number of CFD watching the inferno from the street.
This new guideline is motivated by the City of Chicago's desire to reduce the number of injuries or duty-deaths sustained by CFD.
Bad policy, while no one wishes CFD to suffer grievous injury or death, there are hazards to the profession firefighters willingly accept when they are inducted into CFD. Like CPD, the firefighting profession requires men and women willing to put themselves in peril.
This new policy will reduce risk to CFD but increase the risk to citizens in burning buildings.
Aside from the risk to civilians, this new policy exposes Chicago to extraordinary liability. The cost in court is immeasurable.
The City Council must address this. This new policy places our family members, neighbors and residents are now at greater risk and it is turning CFD into curious onlookers as buildings burn.”
Who came up with this, it’s absolute insanity!!!!!!
Check out fireengineering.com, they have copy of what looks to be the order.
“ New Order for Chicago Firefighters: Start in Defensive Mode”
Kinda like our foot chase policy
Will they still respond to the 400 lb ghetto dweller that falls off the shitter and gets wedged between the bathtub and the shitter? "Jus Axin"
I swear. I didn't think that city could possibly get any dumber.
Elected Democrats working to protect the citizens!
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