The Story Everyone Misses
$6.2 million dollars to settle the Ryan Harris case. That's quite a bit of money for a young kid. Does he deserve it? We make no judgments on that one. Do taxpayers deserve to get stuck with the bill? Probably not, but what can you do when plaintiff lawyers look for that "deep pocket" entity to make their pay days and the city just makes it easy for them, settling cases left and right and setting a precedent for big payoffs.
And that's hardly the whole story. Among the coverage here, here, and here, we found this ABC report (if it's still posted) that states:
And that's hardly the whole story. Among the coverage here, here, and here, we found this ABC report (if it's still posted) that states:
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The city settled the 7 year old lawsuit for $2 million and paid the private law firm of former corporation counsel and mayoral friend Brian Crowe an estimated $3 million to wage a six-year legal battle against the other boy's claim. (emphasis added)
"I think it's well spent money on their case, and I have a law firm with some very, very talented lawyers, and just the fact that I was the corporation counsel, the fact that I know municipal law, I don't think should penalize me or my firm," said Brian Crowe, attorney for city. (emphasis added again)(Just so no one is confused, this is referencing the February 2005 settlement for the first kid who sued.)
So even in one of the city's (and the department's) more trying episodes, the mayor's guys are still getting their cut to the tune of $3 million. The Channel 2 report quotes a juror that "five of us were for the City" which tells us that the city was operating from a decent position and may have been able to swing it closer to the previous settlement of $2 million like the first case had they gone to the jury. But anything to get the mayor's bad publicity off of the front pages and back on governor ryan we suppose. Too bad taxpayers are on the hook - oh wait, that's US!
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
39 Comments:
It is entirely possible even likely that those innocent 8 year olds killed Ryan Harris with a rock thrown and then her fall from the bike, causing two brain injuries.
As she lay dead or dying THEN an adult creep left semen in her.
Was that scenario brought out?
1st line of business for the mother
of suspect.
1. Buy an escalade.
Second line of business.
2. Move to Mt. Greenwood.
Don't forget the opaque tinted glass on that Escalade. And the ride would not be complete without those Davin spinners.
In reference to Post #1 - a story that was told to us mentions that exact thing. Floyd Durr, the eventually convicted perp, never(as far as we know) admitted to stuffing Ryan Harris' nostrils with grass and leaves. That sounds like something 7 and 8 year old kids would do to a body they found. Hasn't anyone ever seen "Stand by Me"? Kids are curious about dead bodies. Yes, the semen at the scene implicated Durr, but did he assault and gravely harm Ryan and the kids finished her off?? Or did the kids harm her and Durr came and did his deed post-mortem. Since Durr pled out, none of this was ever answered adequately at a trial. And since the city wanted the whole case to go away, the civil trial was settled as quick as possible.
Also, we're not psychiatrists, but we play one on the internet, maybe these two kids are having such messed up childhoods not only because of the environment they're growing up in, but because THEY KNOW they did something wrong and all the adults around them are telling a completely different story from what they know the reality to be? Kids are funny that way - they act out a lot of stuff, especially when it conflicts what they hear and what they remember. Ask any detective who investigates molestation cases.
The whole case stinks all around.
DIRTY DICK DALEY'S Brien Crowe, is the fix man in the courts.
The city corp. council is the ghetto lottery! I mean bluntly and frankly, leaving all political correct shit aside. What would this kid have been or made $ in his lifetime without this incident? I say he would have Linked and SSi'ed us to the tune of about 1 million in his lifetime.
The kid will make woman pregnant and them and the babies will be on welfare. The Million $$$$ kid will not support them we will.
The circle created by LBJ and the dems
Buy the tribune, I know it sucks to read cause it opens backwards, but todays comment was about how we as citzens should walk on city hall and demand some of these aldermans jobs for asking for 15 mill. to settle when they knew not one incriment of the case except what they saw on t.v. The slum-times would never say that.
But after they moves to Mt. Greenwood, he will go back to visit and still catch a bullet or three, thats if he don't O.D. first.
Ive worked in ghettos I could see 8 year olds raping girls...they are fuckin savages and these ACCUSED are no exceptions. But like previous posts they will end up dead anyways scum fucks city council. They love throwing taxpayer's money around, dont they, as long as it benefits the savages of this city!!!!! I hate this city
For the dumbasses who aren't getting the hint,
Read the 2:30 PM post on the main page
Thank you
"Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong."
DALEY'S ASS SNIFFER BRIEN CROWE, gets all the CITY BONDS signed over to him by DIRTY DICK, and we all knows nobody likes a DIRTY DICK.
Durr did not plea out, his trial suppose to start Nov 1
The reason why the city council wanted to settle this matter because Alderwoman Lyle of the 6th Ward hold a high regard to Pincham, that's why she introduced the settlement to the city council and stated the kid should get an amount between 10-15 million.
So because of Lyle and Pincham's special "relationship" she wanted a huge amount so the lawyers could cash in.
Plus what make this kid worth so much more than the other kid who the Peoples Law Office settled his suit with the city for 2 million. Nothing. Plus don't think that Harris's mother is not getting something from this kid's family.
By the way Durr will either plea guilty for a break on his current sentence or he will be found not guilty.
From what I read in today's Suntimes, Pincham wasn't too please with the settlement. Gee, I guess that means all he'll get is a little over 2 million instead of the 4-5 he already had spent.
Too bad........
Wonder if there will be some sort of restrictions on how the money will be spent, such as setting aside a certain amount for education (yeah, yeah, don't laugh), future medical expenses, etc. Better yet, set up an annual annuity, so the money doesn't get pissed away in 2 years.
Didn't they do that with the William Russ case?
If not, it needs to be done because handing over that much to someone who's never had anything, that money will be gone in a flash. You can bet the greedy, long lost relatives will be crawling out from under the rocks now. Maybe that's why the paper said the family wasn't pleased with the settlement.
YOU ALL R THE MOST PREJUDICE PEOPLE AND THE SAD PART IS YOU PROBABLY DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH YOUR COMMENTS . I HOPE THEY MOVE INTO MT. GREENWOOD SO YOUR DUMB ASSES CAN TRY TO RUN SOMEWHERE ELSE.
Wah!
Why would we move, you know as well as I that they would be evicted by the Sheriff in no time flat for failing to pay mortgage even though they have millions. It also says alot, when blacks get money what do they do, they move away from their own people and live with whitey. Ouch !!!!!
WELL AT LEAST U ADMIT THAT MT. GREENWOOD IS THE GOOD OLD WHITE BOYS CLUB AND I CAN RESPECT THAT. THATS PROBABLY WHY THE GOOD OLD WHITE BOYS CAN ONLY PATROL THAT AREA !!!! HOW ABOUT LAST TIME I CHECKED U COULD MOVE WHEREVER YOU WANTED TO OOPS I FORGOT THATS ONLY IF U DON'T MIND A CROSS BEING BURNED YOUR LAWN 1
NO. we wish we could patrol our own area but we are constantly being dispatched over east due to never ending nonsense. If you dont believe me listen to 005/022 zone. And what is wrong with patrolling your own neighborhood? Da!
NOTHING IS WRONG WITH PATROLING YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD DA! IS THERE ANY CRIME IN MT. GREENWOOD? THATS WERE I SHOULD LIVE .
Very minimal crime, thats why we live there. Most of the crime commited in Mt. Greenwood is by
"outsiders" if you know what i mean.
There is a huge problem that we have in the 022nd District. It used to be that when a call happened in Mt.Greenwood, cars would fly over there. Now, we have a bunch of police that feel that there is nothing wrong with a M/1 looking into yards in the neighborhood. There continues to be more police that don't care about our neighborhood transferring into 022. We need some of the coppers that live in the neighborhood to transfer in every chance they get. We need our neighborhood protected by people who want to keep it as safe and safer than it is now. Sure, its not as exciting as chasing guys with guns, but we need to remember that if we don't take care of the home front, we'll have that element at our front doors. Our kids won't be safe outside, just like it is in the ghetto.We just recently had a transfer into 022 of a person that allegedly discarded evidence that the escaped prisoner Rencher left at a persons house in the 003rd District because he was too lazy to inventory it and make the proper notifications. Is this who you want protecting your home? How about it, guys. Lets step up and take care of our own, because no one else will do it if we won't.
YES MADDEN...RESIGN YOUR DETECTIVE SPOT AND COME BACK TO PATROL IN 022
Maybe that 022nd district copper who always responding on this website for people to bid to 022 and do it themselves, would spend less time at the computer in the station and more time doing their job, there would not be any people bringing up the cold hard truth about the response in the district.
And people do take care of things in the district along side very good 022nd district coppers. Just trying to help, thats all.
I actually do this from home on my off-time. I have confidence in the coppers out there...and yes I do live in 022. I let them do the job....and think they are doing the best they can under the circumstances.
Anonymous said...
YES MADDEN...RESIGN YOUR DETECTIVE SPOT AND COME BACK TO PATROL IN 022
9/22/2005 02:48:18 PM
First of all on my kids and elderly parents I never would bad
mouth cops anonymously especially after spending nine years on the 022 tac team there. Every one has my cell phone number, and I go out of my way for the workin police. U got a beef with me say to my face, I got enough friends on the Feds to trace any IP# to any computer service. I havent been online at home and will provide proof, e-mail me if U dont believe me.
Have some gonaids dont be like some off these spineless mopes that bang A2 continuously on this site. Be careful these posts can be traced.respectfully
PJMadden
Cant we all just get along?
Quit bashing 022, new subject matter please! Relax Pat, its all in fun.
You dont need to have friends with the "feds" to find out who people are and trace IP numbers.....relax!!!
Yes, Pat, lighten up, now that old, bald headed detective on your watch, he needs help.
If wasn't a Detective asking coppers to come to 022. It is a supervisor who can't get in there because spots are being taken up by haters like Chantelle. Look at the makeup of the 1st watch over there. Who is protecting your property while you sleep? Look who keeps transferring in on 3rd watch? You had better start taking this matter seriously before it gets worse. We never had as many burglaries and robberies over here as in the last few years. These are being committed by outsiders who used to be afraid to try that crap over here. I am not bashing the 022 police who live over here. They try, but are told to stay on the east end by the powers that be. The more of us in the district, the more chance we have of taking care of our own! Its not a difficult concept. I don't know why some of you make personal attacks on people instead of recognizing and solving the problem.
Anyone who brags about connections with the feds is a class "a" stroke
How do you stop dog asses from bidding into 022 when they are successful bidders per our contract
you idiot. We dont want them here either.
Two of those "outsiders" were arrested last night on the first watch after breaking into a truck at 114th and Central Park. Good work by P/O's and that before mentioned detective who make a good flash message
Thats what it is all about... helping each other out. now you are getting it.
For the 4:30 poster
Yet again, name-calling instead of problem-solving. Here is what can happen if we work together:
1. You can't stop people from attempting to bid in, but we need our own to try and hopefully get the bid. Over the last few years people without much time have been coming in, so that is within grasp.
2. We need the supervisors that care to enforce rules pertaining to punctuality, location changes, clearing from assignments in a timely fashion, etc.. Let the mutts know that if they want to be lazy that this isn't the place to go. Word will get around that its not a place to lay down. We all know that coppers gossip tike fishwives. If you tag these people with legitimate discipline, they will scatter like roaches when you turn the lights on. And yes, there are supervisores there that would be willing to do the work necessary.
Solving this problem will take a bit of time, but it can be done. A curse on the name of the now retired Lt. Bob Cronin who ruined the 1st watch by making it a place that is mutt-heaven!!! He thought it would get him Captains bars, but all it got him was retiring out of 005 working directly under Cynthia White.
Nice work 022!!!
I agree with 9:13....guys in the district should be taking care of business, especially in the 10 Sector...there are still a few workers in 022 but there are a lot of dog asses that could care less about protecting our neighborhood...including the supercop who works 2211 on afternoons...do your job
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