Program Canceled (or FEAR US part IV)
Things that make you go "Hmmm."
We get e-mails that certain bosses mention us at roll call occasionally. We heard an exempt mentioned us at the sergeant's school going on at the Academy. It's flattering, but it makes us wonder that with all this talking going on, why aren't our hits 2,000 a day? As noted in the previous post, we even get e-mail from the media (Mark Brown and others) and we are assured that Michael Shakman and Noelle Brennan have read/are reading the site.
We just got an e-mail stating that the practice of sending Beat Cars to DOC "hot spots" on first watch was hereby canceled. A boss (unnamed) even attributed it to that "website that everyone is reading." We could assume that this means the program is being stopped citywide, but we'd like verification.
Do we have aldercreatures reading? Did our readers reach out to enough people to provoke a Department response? Did FOP start making noises? Did some boss read about Mark Brown in the previous thread and realize the Department was about to reap a world of shit? What else has anyone heard?
Apologies to Mark Brown if we inadvertently killed any story you were working on regarding manpower shortages or district redeployments. You could still do quite a number about them hiring back people while denying there's a shortage though. They can't cancel a manpower shortage overnight as they just did with the redeployment program.
We get e-mails that certain bosses mention us at roll call occasionally. We heard an exempt mentioned us at the sergeant's school going on at the Academy. It's flattering, but it makes us wonder that with all this talking going on, why aren't our hits 2,000 a day? As noted in the previous post, we even get e-mail from the media (Mark Brown and others) and we are assured that Michael Shakman and Noelle Brennan have read/are reading the site.
We just got an e-mail stating that the practice of sending Beat Cars to DOC "hot spots" on first watch was hereby canceled. A boss (unnamed) even attributed it to that "website that everyone is reading." We could assume that this means the program is being stopped citywide, but we'd like verification.
Do we have aldercreatures reading? Did our readers reach out to enough people to provoke a Department response? Did FOP start making noises? Did some boss read about Mark Brown in the previous thread and realize the Department was about to reap a world of shit? What else has anyone heard?
Apologies to Mark Brown if we inadvertently killed any story you were working on regarding manpower shortages or district redeployments. You could still do quite a number about them hiring back people while denying there's a shortage though. They can't cancel a manpower shortage overnight as they just did with the redeployment program.
posted by SCC at 6:40 AM
77 Comments:
I very much doubt it was FOP that stepped to the plate. Thanks to SCC, I believe the powers that be started getting nervous as usual and put a stop to it before the media did.
FOP is to monitor any questioned area and act. But they wait untill its 4th down. Then when they are cornered they do as little as possible not to upset the city.
I want to know what we will get in return for this violation of manpower and district swapping.
The city would surely use this against us during contract negotiations. So Mr. Donahue, what are you planning to do??
I bet not a thing.
If we can credit the blog for the dismantling of that program, kudos to the blog. Now lets take aim on one of more other insidious programs that does nothing other than violate the rights of our citizens and generate money for the mayor to distribute to his crony's and that is the Seat Belt Missions. I can't think of one other thing that is officially sanctioned by the City that violates the rights of the populace more than Seat Belt Missions. Not to mention the fact that they take Officers away from what they should be doing, things like fighting crime or answering calls for service. Of course the City will say that the missions are there to prevent crime and will use the ONE incident where a gun was recoverd on a seat belt mission as proof that the missoins prevent crime, but we all know that the real reason they exist is to raise money, nothing more. I mean if the real reason we do them is to prevent crime, then why are we doing them in low crime areas like 001,018,019 or 016?
Believe it or not, not everybody knew about the practice of sending beat cars from their Districts to other Districts. In my District almost no one knew including the FOP rep. Bella claims that NO ONE called the FOP as of Tuesday.
When I see the FOP kicking some city ass then and only then will I believe in them.
The didnt and dont do a damn thing other than what the mayor tells them to do. They ride their butts on both sides of the fence.
Like it or not. Thats the way it is.
Per another post, The FOP is not a union. Why dont we have a union?
Why arent we detailing cars to Catherin Courts at Cumberland & Higgins where section 8 Gangster Deciples are in total control.
Now that we have moved the cabrini green gang scum there they are in 016 to spread there disease.
If the cant eat it or screw it they destroy it. Just take a look at Catherine Courts. Its already gone. And they live there for free. And we pay $4000.00 in taxes to live away from them NICE HUH?
Don't have the Sun-Times paper in front of me, but today's papers mentions a South Side alderman who complained police manpower was being sent to Beverly.
Maybe Rugai should have stepped up and pointed out beat 2211, from west end of 022, was among cars sent to 011. She knew about this last summer when there was a rash of hold-ups on and near Western ave.
Can that alderwoman prove that manpower was sent to Beverly? I work there and have never seen it. It's the home to many police/fire and city workers and our manpower seems low. We dont even get recruits and there are rarely opeinings to bid in.
maybe we can throw mark brown a bone.
Why didn't the news ever investigate the environmental disasters beneath the "Old" stations and Areas?
The old rusty and leaking gasoline pumps.
In some districts the fumes actually seeped into the basements and required special venting.
How many cases of cancer have been discovered in those stations? How does the city sell the property?
How did it go overlooked in all media and by EPA for so long?
How many are left now and how come?
A gas station would never be able to escape the EPA by leaving old tanks in the ground at time of sale.
Is this one of those don't ask don't tell situations?
Sorry,
I meant tanks not pumps
9:00,
I thought the only station to have cancer scares on a regular basis was 011. I know too many guys and gals that have come up with debilitating diseases while assigned there. I know of 3 coppers that were assigned to 011 that now have MS! What are the odds in that?
Check the old Gresham station.
We counted over 13 and that was over a cocktail, imagine if we were sober.
The city closed that station and left it dormant over 10 years.
By the way (Mark) the tanks are within 100 feet from a public school and 50 feet from residential housing.
Old 22 dist same story , tore down old bldg. What happened to the gas tank? Old 3, A/2 on Cottage,old 4, old 5 on Kensington,current 7, a/3,
Great investigative story there for a digger and a reporter with
no fear of Da Mare.
What about EPA? OSHA???
Yes, SSC makes you say Hmmmmm?
Too bad 11.
You're not alone, let's not forget that those were also the days of leaded...
PS
Keep up the good work SSC and knowledgable POs. We seem to have a forum. Perhaps this is the union of the future, the bully pulpit, or the voice of the city.
If I were a pol, or a writer, I'd read and participate.
WHY DOES THE fop GET A RAISE EVERYTIME WE GET A RAISE? THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL IT COMES TO ELECTION TIME, THEN THEY'RE UP EVERYBODIES ASSES BEGGING. WTF? IS THERE A WAY TO LIMIT OUR PAYROLL DEDUCTIONS TO THE fop? FLAT RATE THEM "SUMBICH'S" THE MORTGAGE HAS BEEN PAID ALREADY...
*Acknowledged only two of the city's 25 police districts, Marquette and Grand Central, are at full strength and that some districts are down as much as 10 percent from their budgeted contingent of officers.
*Said he plans to have the first of two police helicopters in the air Jan. 1. The first will be a Chicago Fire Department helicopter converted for police use. "Other cities that have put up helicopters have seen a reduction in crime," he said. "We'd like to patrol anywhere from eight to 12 hours a day."
*Got a warning from Budget Committee Chairman William Beavers (7th) about the shortage of African Americans in the Police Department's upper echelon.
KEEP MONITORING THE SITUATION...
Its important that everyone here who WORKS the 1st Watch MONITOR the situation to make sure it does not happen again.
On the PDT or PCAD system check USM G/011 on a DAILY BASIS. Also it would not hurt to check out other high crime districts to see if the department pulls the scam in the future.
Speaking of things cancelled,
What ever happened to Sweetbabyray," and "Adolph" frequent posters who seems to have disappeared. Seems like lefty and shady also have dropped off the map a bit.
You can USMG any westside dist on the 1st and 3rd watch. You will always see Gang and Tact cars from other Dists assigned there. The 016th Dist doesn't even have a day gang team. Both teams r on 3rd watch and one team leaves every day. Those poor slobs don't even get PDTS or good radios. I've heard the cars they get r so old they have oldman Daleys picture under the seat.
25th District SCANDAL BREWING!!!!!!!
Seems o25 is in it again- SCC reporter has learned that a 3rd watch Sgt. has been notified by the FBI that he was caught on a wire at a pawn shop-numerous times- within the past six months. It also seems that two 025th district gang officers have had numerous complaints written about narcotics being planted on arrestees- & that narcotics were found in one of the officers lockers....the front office is sitting on this, trying to prevent the shit storm coming.
People please understand this.......F.O.P. is not a union! It is a negotiating unit. WE CANT STRIKE! ITS ILLEGAL! There are constantly people being critical of this administration or the prior administration for not taking the city to task. Come on, have you ever been to one general meeting? I believe only 100 plus officers below the rank of SGT. qualify to run in any FOP election. Why is that? Because you have to attend at least half the meetings a year in order to run. Only 100 plus fit that diffacult qualification. Only 2000 members sent in their ballots for pension board. I'm willing to bet that the biggest critics are the least involved. Bitch all you want but if you arent willing to participate blame yourself for any inactions (real or perceived). Of course I'll be accused of being a hack for Donahue and or Daley...so be it!
First of all, I no longer am a WATCH Rep with the FOP.
However I feel that today’s leadership in Lodge 7 is pretty decent compared to the past. When its time that today’s Lodge 7 “gets stale”, THEN IT’S TIME TO VOTE THEM OUT and replace them with competent, ethical individuals that can go up against the city without any fear.
Compared to other “unions”, the way contacts, grievances and other issues are completed are pretty damn good. Other unions nowadays are still more or less like organized crime outfits. The unions of old would screw over its membership like you would not believe. Ask some old-timers out there who worked real jobs.
Its true, WE DO NOT have the right to go on strike. Instead we have “interest arbitration” as we know. THIS IS BETTER THAN THE RIGHT TO STRIKE believe it or not. When we no longer can negotiate with the city on a contract, it goes to an arbitrator that both sides agree on. The arbitrator looks at what all other comparable police departments are getting and then makes his decision. It’s a lot better than having the right to strike and not having an arbitrator, we would get nowhere like many other unions.
As far as complainant and ideas.. GET TOGETHER!! STAY TOGETHER!! GO TO GENERAL MEETINGS!!! When you have ideas, get together with other officers and form committees, PRESENT your ideas to the President and stay on him at every meeting. It’s true that “The squeaky wheel gets the oil”. Just look at this issue of detailing cars to 011… LOOK AT THE POWER OF THIS BLOG!! It works! STICK TOGETHER!! Let your voices be heard!!
I also heard about the shit storm in 025. & its only one officer on the gang team. He's still working the street. It's HUSH HUSH-on the QT!
NOT NO MORE.............
I'm still in the neighborhood sonny boy...
But what about BUSH BOY, GARDA, SHARKY...?
Nice job lately everybody... FIGHT da POWER!
Get `em Lefty- I'm getting my nails done- hard 2 type!
-ydahS ;->~
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SACRE BLEU! THAT'S why SHADY hasn't been too active of late- there's a GREAT MICHIGAN SEA LAMPREY latched on to him- THAT SUCKS HARD! ;-) Lottman!? They told him they LOVED him- even gave him CHOCOLATES!
He should have known he couldn't trust that darting lamprey snake tongue of yours! At least wipe the chocolate off your mouth le Cochon du merde!
Send TRU or SOS to Cathrine courts, oh I forgot one poster states there is no crime up there. OK.....It only gets worse and it wont spread north to Park Ridge it will spread east so get ready 1614,1613. Soon they will be pitching dope in Caesarland hahaha
to answer the 10:23 poster
The reason that FOP gets a raise whenever we do is because the bylaws provide for it
Either 50 cets or the percent of the raise wwhichever is greater
Perhaps now that the building is paid for, there can be a moritorium on the raises
And a moritorium on the $400 monthly stipend the 7 big shots gave themsleves in Addition to their D5 and D8 salaries
Getting back to the cancer causes....25 was built on the site of an old cement facility....24 was built on a CTA barn site....I know of a lot of people that died of cancer and have MS at 25/Area 5. Also the longer you are in 24, the greater the chance of cancer..Just ask the 3rd watch parking cars...
The FOP has done a good job overall no matter how you look at it.
1. We are one of the highest paid Departments.
2. We have one of the best medical policies 365 days and pay less in medical than most Departments.
3. When the FOP is made aware of problems they jump on them.
4. When you call FOP they always try to answer questions and they are polite.
PROBLEMS
We will always have these old fat ass coppers who think they can run things better. They will always speak out of turn at meetings, yell out stupid shit and act like they know it all. I have just over 10 years and to me this is one of the best FOP's. Everybody has there opinion and we should respect that, but if you want to bash and be heard do it in a professional manner no need to be an ASS. Things can't happen over night just try to get a building permit.
AND LAST- IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE CURRENT MEMBERSHIP THEN VOTE THEM OUT- GOOD LUCK.
CHICAGO -- Some South side Aldermen say their communities are being shortchanged on police protection as crimes are on the rise… WBBM Newsradio 780 Political Editor Craig Dellimore has the latest from City Hall… CLIP FROM WBBM780 WEBSITE
Several South Side aldermen on Wednesday complained that officers from the Police Department's old Public Housing Unit should have been re-deployed to neighborhoods where public housing residents moved after their high-rise buildings were torn down.
But Police Supt. Philip Cline said the department deploys its officers based on crime statistics, not where public housing residents live.
At a budget meeting at City Hall, Ald. Leslie Hairston (5th) told Cline "I don't want to see two Chicagos," where some neighborhoods get more police presence than needed and others do not get enough. "But that's what I'm beginning to see."
Hairston complained that when the department's Public Housing Unit was disbanded after many Chicago Housing Authority high rises were torn down under the CHA's 10 Year Plan for Transformation, the officers were not re-deployed to neighborhoods where former CHA residents moved.
At a news conference prior to the budget meeting, Hairston said, "Chicago Police Supt. Phil Cline knew that once public housing was torn down, crime was going to move from the housing developments to the city's neighborhoods and he hasn't done a thing about it."
But outside the meeting, Cline disputed that the fact CHA residents were being displaced from public housing high-rises to other areas of the city would necessarily mean crime would follow those residents as they moved.
Cline said, "There's a lot of law-abiding citizens that live in CHA and were displaced from CHA too, so we're not going to follow citizens, we're going to follow crime."
"We have discretionary forces that we move to wherever we see crime spikes. We follow crime, we don't follow people," Cline added.
Last year, the Police Department reassigned 40 officers from the public housing unit to work in five South Side districts, Central, Wentworth, Calumet, Chicago Lawn and Prairie, that are homes to existing CHA developments.
Another 80 officers were re-deployed to a new Targeted Response Unit, teams that deploy officers to crime hot spots in the city to conduct aggressive patrols.
Cline said that citywide, homicides and violent crimes have been on the decline for several years. "So I think the numbers speak for itself. We're doing the right thing out there," Cline said.
The superintendent said he is always willing to meet with aldermen to discuss their concerns and determine if any changes in strategy are warranted.
Ald. Freddrenna Lyle (6th) said she is pleased that crime is down citywide, but said in her ward, crime has gone up in recent years. "It's not going down where I live, in fact it's going up."
Lyle said she and her colleagues are often reluctant to question police tactics in their wards because they fear the district commanders who work in their wards will be held personally responsible for rises in crime and reassigned to other duties.
"We are put in a position where we are afraid to raise these issues because you might want to respond by snatching that commander. But it's not the commander's fault. He cannot make extra people. So if he doesn't have the people, no matter what he does, it's never going to be enough. It's like the little boy with his finger in the dike in my ward," Lyle said.
Cline said whenever the Police Department sees a spike in crime in a particular area, they try to re-deploy resources as much as possible, either by deploying officers from the Targeted Response Units, the Special Operations Section, or area gang teams.
Ald. Walter Burnett (27th), a former public housing resident, said he was disturbed by insinuations that public housing residents displaced by the CHA's Plan for Transformation would bring crime with them to the communities where they moved.
"Attacking CHA is just bothering me," Burnett said. "I take it personal."
Burnett said too many people in Chicago assume that if a former CHA resident moves next to them, crime will go up in their neighborhood.
"When they have CHA residents moving next to them, they think all of them are bad and I think, I know that's not what the mayor's trying to do when he's transforming public housing." Burnett said that most CHA residents are law-abiding citizens, just as the residents who live in the communities into which they have moved.
ONE WORD COMMENT: ANIMALS!
Maybe the "Aldercreatures" are reading. Looks like that dinosour Stroger is running again and openly saying he will raise property taxes. Not to mention this story in the Sun Times today:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-juvy17.html
Time to vote him out.
6464 said...
Getting back to the cancer causes....25 was built on the site of an old cement facility....24 was built on a CTA barn site....I know of a lot of people that died of cancer and have MS at 25/Area 5. Also the longer you are in 24, the greater the chance of cancer..Just ask the 3rd watch parking cars...
11/17/2005 12:28:35 PM
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So that explains the behavior by 025 coppers. They all have some form of mutant brain cancer caused by the building that makes them think they are better than every other copper out there. I wonder if that's the same reason they all think that General Orders and State Laws don't apply to them. Can they all file "exposure" reports for this malady?
Anonymous said...
25th District SCANDAL BREWING!!!!!!!
Seems o25 is in it again- SCC reporter has learned that a 3rd watch Sgt. has been notified by the FBI that he was caught on a wire at a pawn shop-numerous times- within the past six months. It also seems that two 025th district gang officers have had numerous complaints written about narcotics being planted on arrestees- & that narcotics were found in one of the officers lockers....the front office is sitting on this, trying to prevent the shit storm coming.
11/17/2005 11:00:57 AM
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The front office isn't sitting on shit. The FBI has only served a subpoena on that Sgt, and nothing more at this point. I hear it'll eventually involve numerous coppers. If you remember a few months back, in Sneed's colum she said a bunch of coppers and supervisors were on an FBI wire regarding gambling? She got bad info...it was not gambling, but fencing stolen things with pawn shops. Gonna be another black eye for us soon.
As far as the two 025 officers planting dope on people: I thought that was a pre-requisite to work Tact/Gangs there?
Anyone who breaks the law, deserves to be arrested and prosecuted...if those same people are CPD cops.....so what? get ready to be booked, charged, processed, make bond, and face the charges......
this was transizzlated via www.gizoogle.com
The front office isnt sitt'n on shiznit. The FBI has only served a subpoena on thiznat Sgt, n nuttin' more at this point. I hear itll eventually involve numerous coppa. If you hustla a few months back, in Sneeds colum she said a bunch of coppa n supervizzles wizzle on an FBI wire frontin' gambl'n? She gots bad info...it was not gambl'n, but ballin' stolen th'n wit pizzay shops. Gonna be anotha black eye fo` us soon.
As far as tha two 025 offica plant'n dope on people . I'm a mutha fuckin 2-time felon.: I thought thizzay was a pre-requisite ta wizzy Tact/Gangs there?
JUST WAIT UNTIL MORE CRAP COMES OUT ABOUT ANOTHER BROKEN STAR SCANDAL. 007DIST. WATCH OUT. BYE BYE DANA. BYE BYE PHIL. A WHOLE NEW COMMAND STAFF IS IN THE WORKS. CAN'T WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!!!
Beats 1614,1612&1611 said...
Why arent we detailing cars to Catherin Courts at Cumberland & Higgins where section 8 Gangster Deciples are in total control.
Probably because that is total BULLSHIT! There are still quite a few CPD, ISP and CC police living in that complex, and in the surrounding blocks.
There are a few shitheads in the area, but most of the problem is from the office buildings in the area that have telemarketing jobs. The assholes take the train there, and stop to break into a few cars to and from work before they get fired in a week.
You guys spreading fear and loathing regarding drug sales on 1614's beat are ignorant hacks. Burglaries are the problem there, just like all over 016. NOT drug sales.
Cabrini West, my ass! My guess is most of the whiners never worked Cabrini when it was CABRINI! To compare the two is beyond assinine.
your right..we work up on 1614 bt.along 1652,1614 and we have a few assholes living on th 8500 w berwyn and 8600 w summerdale,,but you can belive we keep them in check, and they will never sell dope on the street or in the apartments if any of us find out,,,it will not happen..i will take the C.R. number FIRST. no doubt there is dope here in 016th..but its not like 011,015,025,its not open in the street,,the few of us will not let it happen..so stop talking shit, THE SHITHEADS WILL NOT SELL DOPE ON THE CORNERS OF 1614 bt.I SWEAR THEY WONT.T.
Sorry to go off subject, but I am looking for advice, I have to refinance & have been hearing a lot about Coyne Financial, some good, some bad.
Can anyone tell whether they were happy with them or not?
Do they do a good job?
Are they good to the police?
Thanking you in advance for any feedback.
A P.O.
If Phil and Dana go down and also the LAPA connection resigns for associating with a felon, who's going to run the dept.
Any ideas for the next Supt?
I have never personnaly dealt with them but I know people that have and all of them said they were pleased. I think Coyne is a Police family.
about john stroger running for re-election as county board president, we must vote him out now!!!Lets send a message starting with him that business as usual in CROOK county will not be tolerated and that f.o.p. should start looking for a canidate its members can endorse. next on the chopping blocks is lil king richie himself. the cpd should adopt its racial profiling slogan" CLOUT,not in this city ,not in this department."p.s. all this complaining about p.o.'s grammar, i believe that p.o.'s are trying to type to fast for thier fingers and a lot of typo errors occur.
see, to should be too, lol!!!
I love the enthusium of the 016th dist copper. and as far as Ald. walter Burnett saying he grew up in public housing and he personally resents you calling them criminals isnt he a convicted felon. A little something about armed robbery.
FOP does not represent the working police officers in this city and I, for the life of me cannot see how anyone can defend them. I am not a fat ass copper either. I put almost hirty years on this job and worked everyday.
The FOP will do nothing to help you if a supervisor or boss will geet into trouble. They protect them, not you.
HMMMM XXXXXL phil states today that 025 and 010 are the only districts at budgeted strength. Does this mean that those of us that live in the 19th ward were lied to by our aldercreature when she stated that 022 is at 100% strength and will continue to be. We need to unite and vote these hacks out!!
O25 kills me
Some decent coppers there, but the hillbillies really bring the credibility of the district down. These goofballs have a sign over the front desk that reads: "The Pride of the City." Hillbilly arrogance at its best. Worst thing is that they actually believe it.
Whats wrong with being a hillbilly?
*Got a warning from Budget Committee Chairman William Beavers (7th) about the shortage of African Americans in the Police Department's upper echelon.
11/17/2005 10:23:36 AM
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Hey! they gave them the answers! What more can you do?? You can lead a horse to the water.............
Nothing wrong with being a hillbilly, just ask all those coppers that live in Mt. Greenwood.
4:39 pm: have used Coyne Financial 3 times. They're reliable and do good by us. Anyone there is fine; I've dealt with Jan each time.
1614 copper I love your passion please come work 812 we could use some help. Property crimes are off the chart I constantly ED 812 always in the district always avail but when im off never see them on the block I see TRU or Saturation over here more than the beat car.
Anonymous said...
HMMMM XXXXXL phil states today that 025 and 010 are the only districts at budgeted strength. Does this mean that those of us that live in the 19th ward were lied to by our aldercreature when she stated that 022 is at 100% strength and will continue to be. We need to unite and vote these hacks out!!
11/17/2005 05:40:44 PM
Bet Ginger wishes Hohm was back, she never got BS info. Garrity now tells her what she wants to hear.
But 022 front office is all hacks tools of the 19th Ward
Hey Living at Cathrine courts.
I worked Cabrini and ironically I ran into high ranking GD at the White Hen last week. Ill never go near there again. I lived over there when I first got on and Ive seen it change. Dont tell me you do work in 016 cause now I know you are lying. If you do live there go pay 1200 month live there while Joe Cabrini and family pay nothing. You better go to beat meeting and complain. Dont you have gang map up in 016? Oh thats right there are no gangs in 016 right? HAHA they are even foolin POS that "work" in 016.
I never said that I worked in 016. I have lived in the 5306 building for over 5 years though, like a lot of divorced and or single coppers.
You saw a "high ranking GD" at the White Hen? Oh my!!! I suppose you also saw the open air drug market that the strip mall allegedly turned into? No? Hmmm...wonder why.
I think it is hilarious that you morons see a black guy and imeediately spread rumors that the whole area is shit now. What about the apartments on NW HWY in Edison Park? Lots of black and hispanics living there now. Do you see any drug sales happening in front of Moretti's? Well, you probably do, but those are white coppers kids selling weed and coke to each other. But that's ok...as long as it isn't the scary blackman!
What I am telling you, is that there may be a GD or two that lives somehwere in that apartment complex, but to state that the GD's now have control over the area is just plain WRONG! I, and a lot of other coppers live there, and I am telling you that it just isn't happening like certain rumor mongers here want you to believe!
Two summers ago, a large group of black teen thugs started hanging out in the White Hen lot on weekends. 016 got rid of them effectively within a few weeks and there have not been ANY problems in that area since.
It is hilarious how afraid some of of you are of any one different than you. My ex-used to complain about how conservative/racist that I was. Frankly, I'm shocked at how liberal I must really be, because the stupid shit that I read here everyday is really depressing.
Brothers in blue...yeah right.
to you who said "i worked in cabrini" you say a high ranking member of the D's from the green's was observed in front of the white hen..you should of called the tact office,but instead you stated "im never going back there"you ran away and then you have the nerve put down 016th dist coppers. I never ran away from a situation where i thought the police needed to be called or take some action my self,,if i was off duty i would have told him to take his ass back to the greens if he knew what was good.i dont live in the courts,i live on 1614 beat and work a rapid that patrols that area..you saw 1 guy, you ran away,instead of making the call...dont ever say anyting about us in the 016th dist..and you worked the greens after they tore down 90 percent of the buildings...tell your friends you work the green not the real police...
Keep being ignorant to what is going on. I was on tact team in working district and in every meeting they would talk about drug activity in and around Pavilion and Cathrine courts. What is wrong with you. And you claiming teens hanging out and 016 did something about is bullshit. What did they do anov them to death? All I have to say is protect your area. I moved to 1631 beat and have real shitty beat officers that dont do shit and its pissing me off!!!!! Im in the same boat as you in 1614. Now I see my beat car is detailed to 011 some nights.
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Ald. Walter Burnett (27th), a former public housing resident, said he was disturbed by insinuations that public housing residents displaced by the CHA's Plan for Transformation would bring crime with them to the communities where they moved.
"Attacking CHA is just bothering me," Burnett said. "I take it personal."
Burnett said too many people in Chicago assume that if a former CHA resident moves next to them, crime will go up in their neighborhood.
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What a Jokester!! Isn't he a convicted felon??
TO ALL THESE COPPERS THAT LIVE IN 016 AND COMPLAIN ALL THE TIME ABOUT THE QUALITY OF POLICE SERVICE THEY ARE GETTING HAVE THE LUXURY TO COMMPLAIN ABOUT THIER FELLOW WORKERS. US COPPERS THAT WORK IN 016 AND DONT LIVE IN THE DISTRICTS THAT THE WHINNING POLICE DO, WE DONT GET TO SEE THE QUALITY OF POLICE SERVIVE YOU PROVIDE FOR THE CITIZENS OF CHICAGO. BUT I BET IF WE WENT TO YOUR BEAT MEETINGS THE SAME COMPLAINTS YOU MAKE ABOUT YOUR BEAT OFFICERS IN 016 WOULD BE MADE ABOUT YOU!!!STOP YOUR BITCHING ALREADY,BID INTO 016 AND TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS!!!!!!!
I find it amusing that you have #1 a cop who lives on the beat, in the area allegedly overrun by GD's, and #2 a cop that actually works on that very same beat, both saying that the rumors are false, yet guys who heard it at a gangs meeting are calling them liars.
What's wrong with this picture?
These are the same guys that don't believe a word said by the Department any other time, but now all of the sudden, the Department's info is golden.
Buncha rocket scientists, I tell ya...
If you live south of the expressway in 016 you are a scum bag hillbilly, now I am off to EPI for some drinks. Stay south with your GD's you animals.
YOU KNOW 016 IS REFERRED TO AS "GODS COUNTRY"..... ILL BUY YOU THE FIRST ONE, IM ONLY 2 MIN. AWAY FROM THERE.
Cabrini, Cabrini Cabrini it would be nice if one of those families move in on your block, that way you will not have to go home or back to the local White Hen....gee you might even see a Black guy driving down the Kennedy Xpress then you can either stop driving or never ever go on that xpressway again. I bet you wake up in the middle of the night from a sound sleep, sit up and blurt out "I SEE BLACK PEOPLE"
HEY HAPPY NORTHSIDER
WHATS EPI?
I LIVE SOUTH OF THE EXPRESSWAY. IM HAPPY HERE. THERE'S LESS GERBAL KILLERS. I SUSPECT EPI IS A DIVISION OF NAMBLA. REDNECKS RULE, and GO WHITE SOX.
To 1614 guy:
If you claim there is no drug market up there and you claim to live and work on 1614 why was the 016 tact on narcotics survielance and Cumberland/Foster on Friday night? Open your eyes fucknuts GDS run 1614, live in your dreamworld.....I think Larry Hoover is looking to buy in Cathrine Courts!!!!!
Shut up 1614 guy. said...
To 1614 guy:
If you claim there is no drug market up there and you claim to live and work on 1614 why was the 016 tact on narcotics survielance and Cumberland/Foster on Friday night? Open your eyes fucknuts GDS run 1614, live in your dreamworld.....I think Larry Hoover is looking to buy in Cathrine Courts!!!!!
11/19/2005 03:37:02 AM
THEY WERE PROBABLY STALKING SOME BROAD
well i dont know what they were watching at cumberland/foster...all 4-corners belong to norridge il..not 1614's beat or the city limits..ass whip...stay in the ghetto and protect the animals.leave the police work in 016 to us,..and hoover will never get out of jail in your life time..now name me one GD.that you have stopped, instead of reading about in the comic..
Hey moron whole west side of Cumberland is Chicago? If you want a lesson on GDs go to White Hen or Bally's, they will be glad to explain how the operate (bend over). Go to the park that used to be called Grandparents park behind Bally'some nice gang grafitti all over. Why are you trying to hide it are you trying to sell your dumpy condo over there? Just section 8 it!!!!!
HEY ASSHOLE..THE SCHOOL ON THE N/W CORNER OF CUMBERLAND/FOSTER DOWN TO BERWYN IS NORRIDGE..THE BUILDING ON THE CORNER OF FOSTER/DELPHIA IS NORRIDGE....THE GAS STATION IS NORRIDGE..SO FUCK YOURSELF..GRANDPARENT PARK HAS SOME WANNA BE GANGMEMBERS THERE ONCE IN WHILE,,,WE DO CHASE THEM OFF...I DONT OWN CONDO....NOW CALL THE PHONE COMPANY AND GIVE THEM THE NAME OF THE SCHOOL AND TELL THEM ITS IN CHICAGO..THAT WAY THEY CAN ALSO TELL YOU ITS NOT CHICAGO.ASS HOLE..AND WE CANT HANG IN WHITE HEN LOT ALL DAY AND HOPE SOME BLACK PEOPLE WILL STOP AND BUY A BIG GULP ON THE WAY TO THE HIGHWAY..OR ON THIER WAY TO WORK AT ONE OF THE THOUSANDS OF OFFICE BUILDING IN THE AREA AND THEM MAKE THEM DISCIPLE GANG MEMBERS...BE REAL..
good post by the 1614 defender..i hardly ever hear"gang dist" or "vice jobs" in 016,legit ones anyways.and the po po that do patrol,40 sect rapid to be exact,work hard...youll hear them giving good flashes on bike robberies ,suspiciuos person...etc...stuff that would be 19pauled in a "working"district.
some of the career 16 dist guys are pampered(turn a molehill into a mountain)but the ones who are experienced from previous dists know theres only so much you can do.and to say one area(cath courts) is overrun with "bangers",the whole district has pocket of them and they aint just from the greens,theres a ton of 13/14/25 dist families that sold their graystone and brought the "family" with them.
Dont make me bid to 016 and show you how to clean up 1614 beat and send GDs back to Cabrini. Get some time and experience on job and you can tell a gangbanger from people workin in offices you shitbag. Were we you when you let a female sgt got her ass kicked on 1614 beat? Jeffs gettin free eats? U Pussy.
TO THE BRAIN SURGEON WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHAT EPI STANDS FOR, OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE SOUTH SIDE TRASH. I WOULD NOT BRAG ABOUT BEING A SOUTHSIDER, BUT I KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER. I WAS AT STANLEYS THE OTHER NIGHT AND A COUPLE OF YOUR WHITE SOX WERE IN DRINKING. OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH TO DRINK UP NORTH.
SOUTHSIDE = TITANIC ( W/O A BAND )
to post 1:58..u dont have enough time to bid to 016,and you said i sould get some time on the job "shitbag" well let me tell you..sorry guys i have to let this guy know...i spent 1982-1987 in 018th dist..was trained by kenny lunsford..so i was in the greens always...1987 to 1993 gangs north, made the HBT program in 1988, merged into the real SOS unit in 1993.there i worked every shitty district in the city every nite, we took over the projects when CHA cops got fired.i had 20yrs of hard work when my partner in SOS and I transfered into 016th, to help patrol our neighborhood.I think I know a bangger when I see one..now tell me how you worked Rush street on the weekends ass-whip..and by the way, that was a 1st watch Sgt..we work 3rd.
sorry guys..i had to tell this ass whip..so he should be able to find out who I am...but i will never know him.
Dont worry jerk I put my bid in and I will be joining you next period so get ready. Maybe Ill kick you off 1614 and do some police work for you.
I have been on this job for 19 years never bad mouthed a copper second hand. If a guy punked out or backed down ya I had a problem with that type of copper. I think anyone reading this knows some copper like that. The good news is that there always seem to be enough of the real police out there to get the job done. Keep reading all this shit about 016 full of pussies and dogs to who ever keeps writing all that dont blanket the whole dist. As for me GCN. Fillmore, SOS and ya 016 so maybe you should look at the flip side. Thin blue line, remember? Someday I might have your back. 30 sector
One other thing cowards hide in the cracks men dont
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