Friday, July 28, 2006

Friday Open Post

Rumors. Questions. Answers. All in one convenient place for you to read.

203 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC For FOP President

7/28/2006 05:34:00 AM  
Blogger SCC said...

If nominated, we will not run. If elected we will not serve. Too much other stuff on our plates. But thanks anyway.

7/28/2006 06:04:00 AM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

I have predicted from day one that SCC will build a political base from this website (I think I just blew my anonymity, at least in my district) and run for FOP Prez. Wheher by design or chance, I say, why not? If he/she was clever enough to plant the seeds of office well in advance by starting this website then we can hope that same cleverness will benefit us in negotiations with the city. If candidacy is merely an accidental by-prodcut of this website, oh well. Our "union" is the source of every rant, complaint, kvetch, bitch, moan on this site. Even the seemingly trivial complaints can be traced back to job dissatisfaction caused by/allowed to continue by our so-called "REPRESENTATION." If SCC announces, we shall see a VERY interesting election with some serious Shit-slinging! Hell, even if it turned out to be "meet the new boss,same as the old boss," I'd still enjoy the show!

7/28/2006 06:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anybody notice that copper standing behind the Cardinal at the news conference the other day as he spoke about his surgery? Who is he and why does he feel the need to have his star hanging around his neck? What does he do besides open the door and carry the Cardinals luggage? He looks like a two year wonder with some clout. Was he on duty or off duty working a side gig?

7/28/2006 08:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you dare ask?! God shall smite thee!


could it have been Seiser?

7/28/2006 08:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone for FOP president. Anyone. Please. Senor Chorizo Grande for FOP president. Please.

7/28/2006 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

scc

why no news of the fop convention the first week of july

the first and probably the last convention.

the important stuff might have been who was elected and what by laws were passed

retired Watt from 008 was re elected first vice president

God help us all

a more clueless individual next to Donahue is Watt!!!

7/28/2006 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any more info on the two coppers from S.O.S. who are being accused of extortion?

Was there really $100K found in their lockers?

Were they really that stupid?

7/28/2006 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Their seems to be a lot of big mouth all talk no action jags on this site. Everyone says FOP sucks and how all your elected officials suck. So instead of bitching all the time take the time and run for office and do a better job for all of us. I'll bet most of the whinners have never been to a FOP general meeting. So step up or shut up.

7/28/2006 09:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CPD provides full-time protection for our Cardinal, thank God!!! That copper the other day could have been a PO from the watch who got tapped to cover the regular guy on his day off/vacation etc.. If he is the regular guy,he is suppose to be a real piece of political shit w/just a few years on. A friend of mine w/30 years on had that job for several years. This jaggoff started policticing for the job w/the backing of the 018 3rd watch CO(does bitch/cunt ring a bell?)The heat was put on my friend, and he decided to retire. He went and saw the Cardinal and told him he was sick of the crap and was going to retire. The Cardinal, being the civilized, standup guy that he is asked my friend "Would u like me to make THE call" My friend declined and thanked him and said it was best to retire. He guarded him several years and they were actually friends. Who ever posted before me is right; someone w/only a few years has no business in that position as a fulltime assignment;and thats what this blog should address. Shine the light on these f#ckers!!! Meantime, keep the Cardinal in your thoughts; he a ST. Pascal's guy!

7/28/2006 09:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone got info on the next dicks class? Rumor was they were going to do four this year.

7/28/2006 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll bet most of the whinners have never been to a FOP general meeting. So step up or shut up.

I went to a meeting once...It was the biggest BS session I have ever witnessed. All the trustees walking around saying..."you guys are really doing a great job out there" FUCK YOU ED!.

Get your check and do something on the side for yourself. You will never change this city. I for one could never be a part of anything that is tainted as bad as the political bullshit this city totes.

Just laugh and walk away. Its not worth it. If you have a skill or a trade make money doing it on your time off. Live long with a clear a free concience.

7/28/2006 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I used to go to the FOP meetings. I was even an FOP Unit Rep. I can honestly say we are being conned. When I tried to ask about certain issues or bring up things for contract negotiations, I was pulled aside and told just to come to the meetings, keep my mouyh shut, and get my dues reimbursed just like the rest.

Oh, maybe you did not know that. If you are an FOP rep and attend more than six meetings a year, you get your dues back. That is the only reason the vast majority are reps. It is a scam.

FOP is surgically attached to the hip of the City. There is one way to send them a message. It takes a very large number of us- hundreds. Cancel the payroll deduction for your dues. Then refuse to pay any future dues. FOP will not try to fire so many cops at one time and they will get a strong message. But, alas, there are not enough guys who care. Me, when I retire, FOP will not get one dime of my money. None. I am embarrassed to even be a member now.

7/28/2006 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:39:31
Are you jealous?

7/28/2006 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
CPD provides full-time protection for our Cardinal, thank God!!!

Whoa! I'm not Catholic, so why is my tax dollars being used to protect the leader of the Catholic Church in chicago????

Do the Protestant, Baptist, Lutheran i.e. Church leaders get Police protection??

7/28/2006 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not a Baptist, but it seems that House of Hope gets quite a bit of police service.

7/28/2006 11:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The guy at the Cardnials house has only about five years on. The only street time he has is when he was on his FTO rotation. And yes he did play politics to get the job.

7/28/2006 11:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The House of Dopes (Hope) is the biggest drug money funnel on the South Side. Meeks needs to be shot, like his daddy was.

7/28/2006 11:53:00 AM  
Blogger Malcolm X's little brother said...

A few threads down someone condemned me for not pointing out the D.C. snipers were African-American. Well, we were taking about the latest incident(s). There's no denying the D.C. snipers were persons of color.

Why must European-Americans ignore in the latest attacks the offender is one of their own? He also was card-carrying KKK. okay KKK supporter, as pointed out by SCC.

P/S to the poster last week that said "blacks do no use the term African-American or European-American." I guess you do not listen to "progressive black radio," my friend. In fact some persons of color, like the great, late Lu Palmer used the term "African in America." I however, do not go that far.

7/28/2006 12:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The best part is they both looked better then Sgt Casey

7/28/2006 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Cardinal's bodyguard is rotated each month. They do this so guys assigned to this post can avoid serious jaw and buttock pain from over use.

7/28/2006 12:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why must European-Americans ignore in the latest attacks the offender is one of their own? He also was card-carrying KKK. okay KKK supporter, as pointed out by SCC

Not ignoring them at all, he is a scumbag peice of shit, and so is the copycat one in Hammond. I think they should be shot dead for terrorizing innocent people like that, save the taxpayers money. I don't care what race they are! that goes double for the peice of shit who claims to have killed 48 people across the country,DEAD! call a spade a spade, who cares what race they are!

7/28/2006 01:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone catch the Daily Southtown yesterday. A great editorial by K Brehm regarding the double standard involving black on white violence. Try and get it.It was a good read. Thanks Kim!!!!

7/28/2006 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The truth is that the WORKERS in Area 5 have no problem with Dean Andrews. Hardworking Detectives just bid in form other Areas and were immediately asssigned Homciides. the clearup rates are for the most part excellent. the entire Division is struggling with Homcide clearups as we get used to ERI & 48 hour rule. Dean is not easily bullshitted and recognizes scammers and bow-wows. Too bad for them. With Sgts like Cirone, Holy,Vail, Max,Garrido,etc the Dicks are backed up and the workers are treated well. Cry babies leave and the unit is better for it

7/28/2006 01:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What new detectives have been assigned homicides last poster is full of shit.
Cirone is a Andrews kiss ass he wouldnt back you up to save your life all he wants is Queen Dean to bless him with a bar.
Holly People skills of a ant knows nothing about how to conduct a investigation.
Vail still on his honeymoon we will have to see what happens.
Max isnt around enough to back up anyone but his caddy

7/28/2006 01:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speak out against FOP they will throw you out.

7/28/2006 02:04:00 PM  
Anonymous TheCementYard said...

Holy, Vail, and Max were never dicks.....Cirone was born with the golden spoon in his mouth. If it wasnt for his old man, he would be working at Mickey D's.
Oh, Hawkins wasnt either, but at least he did lots of time in 15.

7/28/2006 02:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/28/2006 01:57:10 PM

You got dumped for not being able to write.

7/28/2006 02:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hawkins was born with the golden bottle in his mouth Miller

7/28/2006 02:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Iam not DETECTIVE so when did I get dumped?

7/28/2006 02:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been a detective for awhile and I can write SUSPENDED just as good as Milz

7/28/2006 02:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Hawk passing out signed glossies of himself again? I see that guy every 6 months and it's the same superhero stories every time. Some of those stories I was there for and don't even recognize them because the facts have changed so much. You can talk your way into almost any spot on this job. I've said all this to his face in the past. I think he'd like to punch me in the nose, but he tolerates me because of the company I keep, and usually we're talking about how great he is. Well, he's talking and we're all listening.

7/28/2006 02:17:00 PM  
Anonymous OTWHORE said...

Bring Back CURLY..........

7/28/2006 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hawkins: Hey how about another beer the drunker I get the better my stories get and the easier they are for you to tolerate

7/28/2006 02:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What new detectives have been assigned homicides last poster is full of shit.
Cirone is a Andrews kiss ass he wouldnt back you up to save your life all he wants is Queen Dean to bless him with a bar.
Holly People skills of a ant knows nothing about how to conduct a investigation.
Vail still on his honeymoon we will have to see what happens.
Max isnt around enough to back up anyone but his caddy

7/28/2006 01:57:10 PM

Iam not DETECTIVE so when did I get dumped?

7/28/2006 02:10:53 PM

Do you speak English? If you're a Sgt. in A/5 it explains your poor writing skills. Good thing you were never a Det. I'd like you to SPAR me just for the comedy of reading the paper.

7/28/2006 02:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe he on the Warsaw P.D.?

7/28/2006 02:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would love to but you probably don't do shit.
I guess if I could SPAR you for being a fat do nothing lazy copper you could have your comic relief

7/28/2006 02:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope you don't kick back reports for spelling and grammar. If you respond that you are a Sgt in Area 5 I will post my initials and watch and then you can talk to me face to face. If you have the stones...

7/28/2006 02:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whiners and crybabies.


















yes I mean YOU!

7/28/2006 03:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/28
2:20pm
Hawkins is a backstabbing drunken piece of shit. Yeah his time in 015 what an asshole. Best was when he was there as a Sgt. went to tact team after the broken star shit. Well here is the great drunk Hawkins with all the shit going on stealing money from drug dealers. Then great drunk that he is he makes his tact team split the money up and always made them drink with him and take some of the proceeds. I know cause I wa there remember Mark????

7/28/2006 03:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 2:35 if you have such big stones why should I have to post where I work? YOU THINK YOU ARE THE TOUGH GUY SO IDENTIFY YOURSELF
Didn't think you would pussy

7/28/2006 03:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey I'm worried. Talked to some Paramedics who said they haven't been called to Frank "THe Rat" Radke's house in awhile to pick his drunken comatose ass up off the floor. Hey is "The Rat" ok? Another fine fucking example of a clout ridden useless drunk piece of shit on this job. Hey Frank you won'y be shit when you retire hopefully we can hook up then if you don't die from drinking first.

7/28/2006 03:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/28/2006 03:52:38 PM

Okay,

P.M. 3rd Watch A/5

come find me big sarge.

7/28/2006 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way, all I asked was if you worked in A/5 to say so. Are you a broad? You whine like one. You're probably another hack who thinks R.W.O.C. is the name of your only ribbon.

7/28/2006 05:02:00 PM  
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7/28/2006 05:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any truth to the Capt on 1st watch in 015 being an ex-Vice Lord?????

Heard he likes to still help out his bruthas........

7/28/2006 05:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's with that know it all Killacky that works in the Fugitive Unit. Now there's someone that deserves his spot. He's got five years on and knows everything already. Whata Copper! Does it take clout to get in that unit.. or is it based on merit?

7/28/2006 06:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fugitives is an F-O-P unit. That means "friend of Phil". unless you are tight with him or get the nod from the kid, it's another "we'll put you on the list, kid" job. we all know the list is a red herring

7/28/2006 06:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Missed my chance to respond to Coldtype on the thread re. SDS, but I'm a veteran of '68, was with the detective task force in Grant Park and in Lincoln Park, so I'll respnd here.

By the way, kudos to the last poster in that thread, 7/28/2006 01:23:25 AM. You are right on target.

I've also been in school for at least one sememster for 50 of my 67 yrs. (Took a sabbatical after law school)and here is someting I've learned.

Just as guys with teeny-weeny peckers often compensate by ridng great, big motorcycles, so do dimwits like Coldtype posture with with that pseudo-intellectual style, covering up a lack of gray matter. Coldtype, you're not alone; Chompsky falls into exactly your category.

All of your bullshit--and that's what it is, all propoganda, no real facts--has been said before, so it's a waste of my time to counter it point-by-point, especially since you are wrong in so many ways, and especially since your loyalty to your country, like SDS's and Chomsky's , puts you beneath contempt and unworthy of much of my attention.

But just so I'm not talking in a vacuum--the indigenous peoples of what became Viet Nam comprised three separate states (Annam, Tonkin, & Chosin, if I'm not mistaken.) There never was a unified Viet Nam before the French took over. And the people of South Viet Nam, who were culturally different from those of the North, never agreed to an election which would allow the more populous north to annex them and force them to become communists. So of course they resisted the election, they never agreed to it in the first place. It would be like the US voting to annex Canada. With about 1/5 of our own population, we could even let them vote, too--wouldnn't that be fair?

Look around you and wake up, Coldtype. There was a cold war on. It was a war where one side wanted only to enslave the world. After WWII the nations under the control of the communists were forced into subjugation and impoverishment for half a century, while the nations under the shield of the West were given freedom and, with our help,economic prosperity.

But the problem of the dominoe effect after the war was real, one country after another falling under the boot of communism. Whether misguided or not, the decision to aid the South Vietnamese in their fight to remain free was a choice made for the most noble of reasons.

And in hindsight, we were obviously right in one sense. Why do you think all those Vietnamese boat people were drowning at sea, trying to escape, after the NVA victory?

7/28/2006 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IS IT TRUE MIDWAY BOSSES ARE ALL GETTING REASSINED HEARD IT FIRST AT 35TH STREET TONIGHT!

7/28/2006 07:09:00 PM  
Anonymous frequent flyer said...

any reason given?? or maybe reasons?

7/28/2006 07:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Deferred Comp said...

I increased my deferral amount recently and it was deducted from my paycheck but Nationwide doesn't have it. Nationwide told me that the city can take the money from your checks but keep it for 30 days before forwarding it if they choose. WTF?! How many city workers do they do this to and how often? Do they put it in a sweep fund and generate interest at our loss? NRS tells me it's legal. Before I log a lot of time/hassle researching this, I thought maybe someone out can verify this is legal and what are the guidelines.

7/28/2006 07:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/28/2006 07:00:30 PM

Great post. I don't think many people under 30 remember the implications of the Cold War. I was stationed in the Fulda Gap with the 11th ACR (the Black Horse) during the mid-80's. The Soviets coming through the Gap was a fact of daily life. Whether the threat was real or imagined we'll never know, but it was perceived to be real. Korea, Vietnam, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Afghanistan, Cuba, massive troop levels in Europe, arming the Taiwanese, etc., were all battles in the cold war. Even the Arab-Israeli conflicts lined up along Cold War lines. It was a global chess game that we couldn't afford to lose. Coldtype should take note that so-called communist/socialist revolutions are invariably led by a small group of disenchanted middle class pseudo-intellectuals. They promise the masses utopia with the typical smugness of the intelligentsia. They are smarter and know better (kind of reminds me of the Clintons). The irony of it is that countries that spent a significant amount of time under Communist rule quickly had the intelligentsia crushed. When the wall fell it was the average man & woman who took the streets of eastern Europe and demanded Liberty.

7/28/2006 07:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deferred Comp said...
7/28/2006 07:40:30 PM
It is not only legal, but somewhere in the fine print of the literature you received it says so. Since most of us never bothered to read it, it has caused discussion ever since. I got in the first year it came out and they told us this up front. It is legal because you are informed of it.

7/28/2006 08:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is going on at A/5????

7/28/2006 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothin' , why?

7/28/2006 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO: It takes a very large number of us- hundreds. Cancel the payroll deduction for your dues. Then refuse to pay any future dues. FOP will not try to fire so many cops at one time and they will get a strong message. But, alas, there are not enough guys who care. Me, when I retire, FOP will not get one dime of my money. None. I am embarrassed to even be a member now.

7/28/2006 10:55:08 AM

It's about time someone else thinks as I do. What an outstanding plan of action. Now, if we could get coppers to do this. I'm in.

7/28/2006 09:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should be asking, what's going on in Area #3?

7/28/2006 09:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another det leaving A/5.. Something is going on

7/28/2006 09:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Killackey is another Clout Baby. He just has a bigger mouth than most. Fugitive Unit is joke. This whole department is a joke!

7/28/2006 09:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nobody's laughing

7/28/2006 09:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Killackey and the rest of the clout babies are.

7/28/2006 09:35:00 PM  
Blogger happyjoyjoyjoy said...

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7/28/2006 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's happening in SOS?
Did someone get read their rights?

7/28/2006 09:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:29:08 - Yeah, but you gotta admit it's a great job. Arrest by appointment. I love it!

7/28/2006 09:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 7:40:30 pm
deferred comp

I have filed a grievance with FOP and They denied it so I am waiting to appear before the grievance committee to appeal Fallon's denial.

Other police departments Naperville PD also have Nationwide but they get the amount in their account the same day as payday no waiting..

My position is the city makes money on the float; the defferal taken out of your check on the first does not hit your account for 14 days if you are in fixed you lose 14 days interest on YOUR MONEY.

Great issue FOP refuses to do anything about it...

wharej Unit 603

7/28/2006 10:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Deferred Comp has always been a "never look at it" thing for me. I just kind of took for granted the fact that my money gets there.
Thank you to everyone for bringing this to my attention. A much closer eye will be paid to this.

7/28/2006 10:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Deferred Comp said...

Unit 603: Thanks for the response. The last time I had a problem with NRS I wasted a lot of time and effort just trying to find out who is in charge of our deferred comp. As in who watchdogs for us, has ultimate fiduciary responsibility, who picks our fund choices (cuz they sure aren't asking the rank and file!. I got NO replies to multiple emails, phone mssgs. to entire FOP Finance committee, F.Hamid at Dept. of Finance. I don't mean uninformative response, I mean NO contact whatsoever. Real professional.

7/28/2006 10:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's happening in SOS?

7/28/2006 09:37:14 PM

The usual: Raping, Pillaging and Plundering performed with tacit approval of the bosses as long as the numbers look right at the end of the period.

Bunch of god damned pirates! Argggghhhh...to the westside me mateys! There be enough treasure for everyone.

7/28/2006 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rocks & Blows as treasure? I like it. Maybe we should tell DAN there is treasure at the bottom of the lake. The aversion to swimming (and water of all sorts) would be quickly overcome.

7/28/2006 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What did Slim Shady Killackey (the 3rd) do now? That guy gets fatter every time I see him. The hip hop skater boy look is awesome.

7/28/2006 11:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Peoples Law Office filed an ARDC complaint against Dick Devine.

7/28/2006 11:32:00 PM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

re: Deferred comp.
Finance dept. couldn't/wouldn't give me any answers either. FOP at first claimed ignorance then referred me to risk/benefits who never returned my calls. I know UberAlderBurke is head of finance committe but I don't think an Alderween is going to be fielding every city workers deferred comp. complaint. Leaving aside the WHY you need to call, just WHO do you call when you have a problem. In 401K plans, it is the employer, not the plan administrator (Nationwide RS) that has ultimate fiduciary responsiblity to the employee. 457 plans are very similar (except in Chicago it seems). This Wall of Silence intriques me. Are there such shenanigans going on that no one will even acknowledge being in charge? It is an acknowledged reality in the Mutual Fund Industry that untold millions or even billions are spent wooing (bribing)potential corporate clients to include their funds in the company's retirement plans. Of these potential clients, institutional funds (like City of Chicago) are the most prized plums. These "incentives" often take the form of paid vacation junkets, golf outings, etc. and, though infrequent, financial reward (funneled and hidden by people who move money for a living). Could we have stumbled upon the Achilles heel of our Unholy Triumvirate (City,Finance Committe/FOP)? The one filthy graft among their countless others that can be their undoing? Run, you conniving shitheels, were coming for you!

7/28/2006 11:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I spent one-half a my day-off writing a letter to unscrew up a billing mess with my kid's health care. We use to have really good insurance that was part of our compensation until Daley took over. Now look at it, welfare is better than what we have.

Thank-you Richard F#<*ing Daley who once said, "If they don't like what we are offering they can quit."



P.S. Beware of scams by doctors and medical care providers who say, "We just want to run some tests." This may be billed as routine physical exam and is not covered by your insurance. It grabs your $600.00 "Wellness Benefit" with full-boat prices and leaves you with the uncovered overage. If you have to pay out of pocket for any non-covered expenses, ask/demand a reduction. Almost all medical care providers have several price lists for the same services; a reduction for an uncovered expense can be 40%.

7/28/2006 11:48:00 PM  
Anonymous AUSTIN said...

I feel that FOP is doing a good job under difficult and adversarial circumstances. They helped me and another officer when we were dumped from traffic. We were reinstated. They bent over backwards to help us.

The union is just like the job. You only get back what you put into it.

7/29/2006 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don't you go suck a fat baby's dick you backstabbing piece of shit rat fink.

7/29/2006 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Elect me for FOP president.
I promise all plenty of fine female hispanic ass to dine on....
OLE!

7/29/2006 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks, but I've been married to 2 of those fine Hispanic women and the meal wasn't worth the bill.

7/29/2006 12:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Malcolm X's little brother,

Since you are too ignorant to know any better, when somebody refers to race, "African-American" is NOT one. Neither is "European-American". Black and white are races. Or, if you prefer, Negro and Caucasian.

No one cares what racist extortionists like Je$$e Jack$on and Al $harpton have to say about the subject. Same thing for "progressive black radio". Nobody gives a fuck what they say, either.

Learn the difference between race and nationality. Oh, and, while we're on the subject: African-American isn't a nationality, either. Africa is a continent, not a country, and not everyone in Africa is black, so it's a stupid term to use.

7/29/2006 04:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deferred Comp

The grievance was filed under Section 26.4 payment of wages:

"payment of wages provided hereinshall be due and payable to an officer no later than the 1st and 16th of each month"

When your derferral for the 1st or 16th is not creditied to your account till the 15th or 30th your contract is violated.

the city uses the excuse that "delays cause by payroll changes" allows them to delay your deferral THAT IS TRUE FOR CHANGES the FIRST TIME but when your deferral is the same for months or years there is NO DELAY
and with direct deposit the city cannot explain the delay

The G has regulations which require a specific explanation WHY an employer cannot make a payment to a reetirement account within 1-3 days

The union won't even require the City to explain why it takes so long for the deferral to hit your account

I suggest everyone who is concerned about this FILE a Grievance or at least have FALLON tell you there is a greivance already on file which would be mine

Wayne Harej Unit 603..

7/29/2006 06:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Deferred Comp said...

W.Harej: Who do we contact? What unit/division/dept. does Fallon work for?

7/29/2006 09:59:00 AM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

You mean Fallon at FOP. Fuck them. I sure haven't read much in the newsletter about your grievance! I want to know who is responsible in the city government and I will contact them. I want to deal with the decision maker direct or at least give them the chance to screw me so they will at least be accountable after the fact. We need to find out how much the city is making on OUR money while we lose out. Related issue: I know they make a ton on our "Chicago Blended Fixed Option." They pay out 4.9% and even a moron of a financial manager makes 5.5% on fixed instruments in recent times. I've heard unsubstatiated (because I haven't got a prospectus. NRS claims there is no such thing for that fund!)figure of 13 Million $$ in that fund. If the City is making 1.6% interest off OUR money while we take it in the ass...Coppers shouldn't put their money in a fund that barely keeps up with inflation erosion while the city generates (and keeps) the interest off YOUR prinicple. I just bet that is the fund they push on the Recruits when they sign up! PPOs let us know. So what do we do? Class action suit?

7/29/2006 10:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, after 25 years of the Deferred Comp $ being delayed, NOW someone is going to grieve it? What part of the contract are they violating??? Offering deferred comp might be part of the contract, but the actual account and how it is administered? Please cite the contract provision, also, how do you expect to win this? If it is pointed out to the arbitrator that this has been the past practice for at least 25 years, then it looks like a loser to me. The only way to fix it is to re write the administrative policy of the deferred comp account the city has set up....

7/29/2006 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
87%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4.3%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
7.1%

I don't know.
1.8%

7/29/2006 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Drop in home prices predicted
The California Association of Realtors said Tuesday that home sales skidded 26 percent from June last year and are off 20 percent for the year.
Posted Jul 29, 2006 07:39 AM PST
Category: ECONOMY


Other sources predict home prices could plunge 40% in the next 5 years. This will trap homeowners in negative equity in which they will owe more on their mortgages than the homes are worth, with the new bankruptcy laws blocking any way out.

7/29/2006 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats OK. Then I'll die living in the house I currently reside in. I bought it just so that when I do retire, I wouldn't have to re-locate, so that I could stay living here, in a world class city, the City of Chicago. It's in one of the BEST areas around and it's perfect for my wife and me.
You guys that can't wait to retire and get out of this City so you can reside in some shithole, go right ahead. Me, I'm staying put and loving every minute of it.

7/29/2006 12:52:00 PM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

Don't know if they have been doing it for 25 years and don't care. That's like saying something sucks but it's sucked a long time so it's o.k. Yes, some battles are not winnable. I don't think that is the case here. This has nothing to do with our contract. Defined benefit plans must follow certain rules-I just haven't found them yet. Found plenty on 401(k) plans and am still searching. I just want to see the Federally mandated standards that allow this. Not word of mouth from the people who adminster our plan. They are not an objective party. We pay union members to do this type of due diligence for us but they are not. So, one step at a time. Who is oversight for employees? Finace division? Finance committee? I contacted FLSA a while back and it's not them. They handle pensions. Interestingly, when I emailed them they called on the phone the NEXT MORNING! A federal employee! Obviously thought they were gonna get dirt on our equally filthy pension plan!

7/29/2006 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1058:57

No, I'm not jealous. You see my friend, I'm the working Police and proud of it. I'm not some 2 year wonder itching to get off the street and find a spot like that guy that was standing behind the Cardinal did. Personally, I think the guy ought to be ashamed of himself. How can he look himself in the mirror. Two minutes on the job and he's already hiding out. That job should go to some old timer thas paid his dues.
Hope that answers your question.

7/29/2006 12:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
12:57pm
Was just thinking about the old westside districts. Remember when you were a new guy on this job and you worked with guys that had spent their whole careers in patrol? Back when you rotated with a watch. Yeah these guys were the real police who had never been out of a district and these old timers did more fucking police work than all these dipshit new guys in units like TRU, SOS etc. Hey all you new college fucks on this job they did it in uniform with a 38 special revolver on their side and we had no vests then. This fucking job sucks now just glad to be in the KMA club.
Back then you pulled your weight kept your mouth shut. No whining and crying back then because the Captain, they took a test back then, would dump cry baby assholes off the watch . Fucking little bitch boy college fucks on this job. Probably still got mommy and daddy paying their way. Well it's all frat boys and spring break broads on this job now and look how fucked up it has become. KMA!!!

7/29/2006 02:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back when coppers didn't wear hair gel, earings or stupid tattoos.

7/29/2006 02:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Filing the grievance was a way to keep legal costs down and it is their duty as the payment on the first and 16th is a provision of the contrac.

Freedom of information act may give the details on the money the city makes on our def comp amounts.

We would have to file suit against the city to bring this issue up.

ERISA is the federal legislation that would cover this as well as the IRS rules governing the administration of a 457b plan (def comp) as offered by the city as I said earlier other cities do not play games with posting your deferred amount.

My records are at work and I will attempt to post the info I have accumulated up to this point

Fallon at FOP is well aware of this issue.

Yopu have not read about this in the newsletter for obvious reasons FOP does not care about this issue because it cuts to close to the city..

7/29/2006 02:50:00 PM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

Good info. Keep up the fight for OUR money. Jesus. You have to fight the beast on the streets to make the money, then the city to keep it!

7/29/2006 03:54:00 PM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

ERISA rang a bell. It was them, not FLSA that contacted me and told me they don't handle 457 plans. WTF?

7/29/2006 04:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2:36

Yes, your right, and I too was thinking the exact same thing. Back then when things were really bad, nobody carried all these high capacity automatics with 2-4 extra magazines. It was a six shot wheel gun with six more in a dump pouch although I will admit that some guys did carry a secondary weapon, usually a 1911 or a Browning High Power.

A bullet proof vest was something a private detective wore on television. I never actually saw anybody wear one here though. But I must admit, that if we did have them back in "the day", we wouldn't have lost as many guys as we did, so maybe we shouldn't laugh at the new guys who won't go anywhere without them.
Things did get accomplished, bad guys got locked up. But I think it's more of a tribute to those guys that were on the job back then.

7/29/2006 04:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cars? Radios? Back up? What kind of pussy shit is that. Back when I was the police all I had was my Colt Peacemaker and my Springfield rifle. I would meet the cowpokes on the edge of town and have em turn in all their firearms (yes, we were liberals). Ain't nuthin like a drunk, crazy cowboy fresh off a cattle drive. If someone didn't want to go quietly then I put old time handcuffs on them (the butt of my Colt on their forehead). The only back up I had was a town posse when we were chasing down some desperate hardfootin desperado. Most of them didn't know the business end of a rifle from a spoon. No city car or motor maintenance either. I had to buy, brush & feed my own horse. And if he needed to be shod then I payed the blacksmith out of my own pocket. Miranda was the hot little Mexican gal working overtime upstairs at the saloon (OLE). Didn't have it as good as all you pussies with your schoolin & furloughs and sick time. All I had was a tin star and a mandate to enforce the law. This job sure went to shit when they started bring in all you city boys who feel entitled to sumpin.

7/29/2006 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're so right 5:32.
These old timers and not so old timers think that if they have one day more on the job than you, then they're better than you. No see if you're a dog with 30 days on the job or 30 years on the job you're still a dog. Plain and simple and everybody knows it! This job has gone to the DOGS!

7/29/2006 05:50:00 PM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

Colt, horse? me police long time ago. me have rock. me have stick. me make good bad. no bad. stop bad. go away. fire hurt. FOP tribe take trade stones. not stop bad. put in my ass. it hurt.

7/29/2006 06:12:00 PM  
Blogger Kool-Aid said...

>>>>"No see if you're a dog with 30 days on the job or 30 years on the job you're still a dog. Plain and simple and everybody knows it! This job has gone to the DOGS!"<<<<


Every good dog has it day

7/29/2006 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
7/29
12:57pm
Was just thinking about the old westside districts. Remember when you were a new guy on this job and you worked with guys that had spent their whole careers in patrol? Back when you rotated with a watch. Yeah these guys were the real police who had never been out of a district and these old timers did more fucking police work than all these dipshit new guys in units like TRU, SOS etc. Hey all you new college fucks on this job they did it in uniform with a 38 special revolver on their side and we had no vests then. This fucking job sucks now just glad to be in the KMA club.
Back then you pulled your weight kept your mouth shut. No whining and crying back then because the Captain, they took a test back then, would dump cry baby assholes off the watch . Fucking little bitch boy college fucks on this job. Probably still got mommy and daddy paying their way. Well it's all frat boys and spring break broads on this job now and look how fucked up it has become. KMA!!!

7/29/2006 02:36:51 PM

They death moans of another bitter old jag-off who is jealous of anyone younger, smarter or better off than he is. Your rantings would be comical if they weren't so sad. So you had a wheel gun and kevlar wasn't invented yet...big fucking deal.

7/29/2006 08:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Back when coppers didn't wear hair gel, earings or stupid tattoos.

7/29/2006 02:42:35

Just cheesy mustaches, mirrored sun glasses and tight pants. Back when cops were men and so were the Village People!

7/29/2006 08:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
8:12pm
Big fucking deal? You little cunt aren't man enough to even stand in the same roll call room as these guys. By the way punk ass watch how you talk your Mom sure liked to suck our dicks back in the day of those sunglasses. Just might be one of us is your daddy little fucking puke.

7/29/2006 09:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:12pm
By the way you little pussy ever been out on the street without your kevlar? Of course not you spent 5 or 6 six years of Mommy and Daddy's money to get out of college and you are such a great success story with that great education you could only get a city job. Who are the losers here? You young little faggots with your hair gel and that great college degree or us old guys who used to let your Moms suck our dicks before they turned into the fat old broads they are now. Little cunts have ruined the job such fucking whiners on now.

7/29/2006 09:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep hear my death moans keep paying into that pension I collect which you little assholes will never be able to collect cause it will be gone by the time you grow up.

7/29/2006 09:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:12
8:16
Ask Mommy when she's doing your laundry if she knows what a groupie was. HaHa bet she does wonder if I fucked her at Mike's or the Cove years ago??????

7/29/2006 09:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Geez more than half of the Dept. now doesn't even remember rotating, real Captains, guns other than idiot proof little 9mms, call box keys,the projects when they were busy,the West side when the police really did run it etc.........

7/29/2006 09:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Not a Cop said...

These rookies are so green, they put my lawn to shame. These wonder boys/girls labeling all vets as if they were garbage, while they flap their lips.

You babies have a lot to learn from many of these veterans officers who have walked through all sorts of fire throughout the years.

I also find it funny many of you are complete imbeciles when a civilian waves at you, and you just blankly sit back and don't know what to do.

Lack of of complete respect for these people.

7/29/2006 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:12pm
Truly the speaking of a totally ignorant immature college kid. You really believe you are smarter and better off than the old timers. Ok kid go put your hair gel in then your earring and take your little bi-curious faggot self down to the club and think about what a spoiled little faggot brat you are.

7/29/2006 10:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey schicklegroover maybe you should shut up. Aren't you the FNG,fucking new guy, who thought Fitzsimmons was the tits cause you heard him talk tough? Get some time on the street and learn something then maybe we will listen to your opinion. Now go suck fat ass Fitzsimmons dick like all you new guys suck white shirt dick thinking you'll get somewhere.

7/29/2006 10:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All you old miserable fucks should shut up and listen for a change. Maybe you can learn something from some of these young guys and then maybe you'll learn a thing or two and possibly pass a test! I see all these old timers? (<10 years) belittle the new guys. Remember something you were new once too...and it took a while for you to learn the little that you know. There is nothing worse than supervising you miserable beings.

7/29/2006 10:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give me a break with the veteran shit. These are the same assholes that have perfected the 2 hour #2 parker. The same assholes that forced the city to put handcuffs on all of us. Richie didn't wake up one day and decide to force shit down our throat. Everything the city does is reactionary and was forced upon because of the shit you assholes did. You pimps beefing on here are the same assholes who believe anyone with one day less than you doesn't know what they're doing. I've got 15 years on the job. Some of the best cops I know have only 3 or 4 years on. Some of the worst have 30. This is a job, your seniority date doesn't decide when you get to dog it. If you were a carpenter you would be expected to work just as hard with 30 years or 3 years. You guys are bunch of hand jobs. By the way wheel guns are idiot proof; automatics take some technical know how. As for Kevlar, well don't wear it. Your probably going to get shot in the ass running away anyhow. 30 years of doing nothing doesn't mean shit. You're only as good as what you did yesterday.

Oh yeah, sorry about the co-pay going up. The Viagra must be costing more than ever.

7/29/2006 10:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
10:41pm
Ok lets see. I'm a Sgt and have more than 20 years on the job. Probably have more time as a Sgt than you have on. Now tell me about supervision. All I do is save young idiots from CR#'s bad shootings, senseless car accidents and on top of all that I have to listen to"Sarge they took me off my car I've been on that car for 3 months now I have to work a late car." So rookie you have no right to ever talk about the old guys and call them dogs because I speak the truth and I am a Sgt and I will take a watch full of old timers who know police work over a whole district of you young full of yourself new people who truly do not know shit.

7/29/2006 10:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
10:41pm
I believe the man was refering to real guns like 1911's and HighPowers. Of course Mr 15 years never saw a real gun I am sure.

7/29/2006 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, Mikes's the Cove? LOL. that brings us back a few years.

Is Mikes's still on Webster?? He was such a nice man. Is he still around? It the Cove still opened? I used to go there in my college days back in the 70's.

7/29/2006 10:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know nobody on this job with less than 20 years should even be allowed an opinion.

7/29/2006 10:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Yep hear my death moans keep paying into that pension I collect which you little assholes will never be able to collect cause it will be gone by the time you grow up.

7/29/2006 09:41:04 PM

You'll be dead in 18 months like the rest of the "real police".

7/29/2006 11:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:41pm
Hey douche bag just think how much that co pay is gonna cost you when you need it. By the way your Mom,the police groupie, likes me taking viagra cause she says my dick is nice and hard not soft like your panty waste Dad's dick was when they conceived your punk ass.

7/29/2006 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:02
Thats 18 months more pension than you will ever see.

7/29/2006 11:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
7/29
8:12pm
Big fucking deal? You little cunt aren't man enough to even stand in the same roll call room as these guys. By the way punk ass watch how you talk your Mom sure liked to suck our dicks back in the day of those sunglasses. Just might be one of us is your daddy little fucking puke.

7/29/2006 09:32:30 PM

Why would we need college boys when we have refined geniuses such as yourself? No wonder you're a 25 year beat man.Great comeback can your dad beat my dad up too...fucking viagra popping pea brain.

7/29/2006 11:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mikes is gone.

IF the Cove you are refering to was/is on 55th street, it is still there.

Many a b.j. to be had there.

7/29/2006 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Class...Class...

SHUUUUUUT UP!

Thank You.

7/29/2006 11:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
11:06pm
Do you comprehend what you read college boy? Think the man was saying he fucked your Mom back in the day and he might be your Daddy. Sounds like Viagra scares you or something.

7/29/2006 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This job should be like the military. Mandatory retirement at 20 if you haven't been promoted. Clean the dead weight off the boards. By the was fellow sgt, i was a VC dick for 8 years and you can save me the bullshit about all the shootings you fixed. The dicks & their supervisors fix bad shootings. What is a real gun? A six inch 44? Give me break dirty harry. That was a movie and it wasn't about you. I admit I might need the Viagra if I had to pop your fat old lady. I'm still wearing the same wool pants I bought as a recruit. Like I said, move up or out. Cut off the dead weight at 20 years.

7/29/2006 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
8:12pm
By the way you little pussy ever been out on the street without your kevlar? Of course not you spent 5 or 6 six years of Mommy and Daddy's money to get out of college and you are such a great success story with that great education you could only get a city job. Who are the losers here? You young little faggots with your hair gel and that great college degree or us old guys who used to let your Moms suck our dicks before they turned into the fat old broads they are now. Little cunts have ruined the job such fucking whiners on now.

7/29/2006 09:36:28 PM

Would that make me a man to go on the street without a vest???? You really are an old douche! I took this job because I knew a could look like a superstar and score in the top 2% on every promotional exam competing against dumb fucks who had to take this job when it didn't pay shit, 'cause they couldn't do anything else. When I had 6 years on the job, I already out ranked you, fucking geriatric retard.Get a life outside this job, yes that is what this is a job not an ordained calling.

7/29/2006 11:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was the Hidden Cove up north years ago on Lincoln.

7/29/2006 11:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
11:13
You gotta be kidding me. You the top 2% you have shit spelling and grammar skills looks like you wasted Mommy and Daddy's money. By the way I outrank you and I'm not a 25 year beat man.

7/29/2006 11:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He didn't male any spelling mistakes boss. His grammar is a little rough, but he is typing quickly and in the vernacular. You must be a clout promotion.

7/29/2006 11:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
11:12
Now what would you know about the military? Which is it the reserves or National Guard? Well I was in the real army in a real war. Yes a 44 is a real gun but I'm sure you never shot one cause cunts like you would shit your pants if you did.By the way Mr great used to be a VC dick many of us did carry 44' and 45 Long Colts. Now asshole tell me what a great VC dick you were and all the police shootings you handled. I'm a Sgt in patrol for longer than you were a dick or been on this job so don't bullshit us here about you cop saving VC dicks.

7/29/2006 11:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
11:22pm
No actually got promoted before meritorious.

7/29/2006 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
7/29
11:06pm
Do you comprehend what you read college boy? Think the man was saying he fucked your Mom back in the day and he might be your Daddy. Sounds like Viagra scares you or something.

7/29/2006 11:12:21 PM

Yes. But its so assinine and immature you should be embarrassed of yourself for writing it. You sound like a fucking 10 year old. No wonder you're so bitter and afraid of the young guys on the job. It was real easy to be a tough guy back in the day, before you would get fired for lumping someone and before the age of the video phone/camera. Like I have posted before...Its amazing that a guy can train to be a brain surgeon in 8 or 9 years out of high school, but according to an old timer you can't know a thing about being a cop till you need a hip replacement. The pension will be fine, I have a shit load of money invested and own property, will be young enough to work when I retire full boat at 50, and will be able to use my college boy degrees that the city paid for. If you didn't spend all that time and money at the bar (fucking my mom and all the other groupies)you would have something to look forward to as well, but at least your ex will enjoy her part of your pension,Dad.

7/29/2006 11:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
7/29
11:13
You gotta be kidding me. You the top 2% you have shit spelling and grammar skills looks like you wasted Mommy and Daddy's money. By the way I outrank you and I'm not a 25 year beat man.

7/29/2006 11:17:03 PM

Read your own post Einstein. A couple of errors yourself.

7/29/2006 11:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BOXING MATCH!!!!!!!
LET'S HAVE A BOXING MATCH


VETS VS THE PENSIONLESS

7/29/2006 11:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
11:33pm
Yeah but he wasn't the one bragging about being in the top 2% while competing against all the dumb fucks.

7/29/2006 11:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
11:30pm
If you are such a financial success why you going to work when you retire at 50? By the way your mom was a cheap date we used to get a six pack and she would suck me off in the car.

7/29/2006 11:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
11:12pm
Great idea get rid of all the useless dead weight dics on this job cause they couldn't get promoted in 20 years.

7/29/2006 11:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I sure the hell hope it wasn't PABST or OLD MILWAUKEE

7/29/2006 11:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29/2006 11:26:48 PM

I was on active duty for eight years. My wars were over quickly. Don't be angry about losing. I'm sure you blamed it on the officers. Because you were the best, and every one else was stupid, and the FNG's didn't know what they were doing, blah, blah, blah. See a common theme in your life? As for me being a dick, I just went to work and did my job. Consequently when I got promoted plenty of bosses I met along the way wanted me to work for them. I was out of uniform and in a unit within six months. Keep bragging about patrol and the humble glory of proletariat. I need something to put me to sleep. When are you retiring so the kids won't have to put up with your nonsense at work. Probably when they force you to right? The old lady has moved on to someone less bitter and the kids just giggle behind your back. Must be tough.

7/29/2006 11:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow the old timers are telling mom jokes. And YOU guys are the ones saying young coppers are whiners and immature? LMFAO!

7/29/2006 11:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well, if the old timers fucked your mother,s who are the newbies doing???? let's get down to the meat of things people.

7/29/2006 11:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
11:55pm
Eight years active duty eight years a dic and now a Sgt gee you gotta be 50 years old. You are so full of shit. And by the way motherfucker unless you humped a ruck shut your fucking mouth about the bullshit wars you fought. You ain't earned the right to talk about that war asshole 58,000 names on the wall so shut your disrespectful mouth cause nobody that was really on active duty for any amount of time would spout that disrespectful shit. You can come on here punk and dis the old timers but you better shut your fucking mouth about those of us who fought that war and those who died fighting it.

7/30/2006 12:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
11:55
You are much too full of yourself to be any kind of veteran especially a true combat veteran. To claim you are one is a disgrace to those of us who are. Calling other po's the proletarit shows what a self centered conceited ass you really are.

7/30/2006 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
11:58
They must be fucking each other this is the bi curious generation they learned that in college.

7/30/2006 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
11:55pm
So now it was just going to work doing your job. But wait I want to hear about all the cops you saved as a VC dic. Six months in uniform and then to a unit. Well you are either just a fucking know nothing liar or you sucked dick and made a phone call. Somebody please tell me this conceited asshole isn't on the job.

7/30/2006 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
11:55pm
Eight years? quick wars?which wars?What branch? what mos? whatunit? what rank? Put up or shut up something tells me you are full of shit.

7/30/2006 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Want to bet that "I was a VC dic and then a Sgt in uniform for six months" never comes back to tell about his alleged 8 years active duty and his alleged wars. You fucking REMF you never were in combat and you never been to war.

7/30/2006 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
11:55pm
You are so great and have so much experience would you please handle all my CR#s because these old Sgt's in patrol don't know anyhting compared to you my hero.

7/30/2006 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
11:55pm
All the police shootings I've been involved with the last guys to show up after the field Lt and the Sgt might be a VC dic. Good white shirt can take care of lots of shit at the scene.

7/30/2006 12:55:00 AM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

Christ, lighten up! What, get frustrated by all these anonymous postings and see an actual screen name and go for the throat? For my cave man cop shit? I was trying to point out how stupid for everyone to whip out their years on job and that it's a never ending pissing contest no one can win. The posting about Fitzsimmons was ONE episode I witnessed. Read the postings later on where I took glee in him getting his ass whipped by a foot man. And since it seems you don't like him, give us some dirt on him. Maybe you'll keep someone from getting jammed up if they ever have to deal with him. Also, thanks for calling me an FNG. Born in 1960 so you made me feel young again. And relax. The young ones are pulling your chain, trying to get you riled up and it's working. You're walking right into it.

7/30/2006 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A good whiye dhirt! Ha! Ha!

7/30/2006 01:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Force the dead weight off at 20!

7/30/2006 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I fucked your mom!

Your a REMF!

You sucked dick!

You this!

You that!

Blah!

Blah!

Blah!

Now repect me because I rant on here a like a fucking maniac and I worked a government job for 20 years without getting fired.

You sound like a bunch of little kids. Take your ball and go to Arkansas. Bunch of hand jobs. No wonder this job is so fucked. You made it this way.

7/30/2006 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"All the police shooting I've been involved in"

Hey Marshall Earp the Clantons are meeting down at the OK Corral.

7/30/2006 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
1:14am
Comprehension seems to something really lacking on this job. Some of you guys need meritorious because the way you read and comprehend what you read there is no way you could pass a test. Now read that post again. he said ,"all the police shootings I've been involved with..." Big difference between with and in learn how to read before you go calling somebody Wyatt Earp.

7/30/2006 01:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
1:13am
Say what you want but I want the hero to tell me about all the cops he saved as a dic and it may not mean much to you asshole but I want to know about his heroic combat experience before he comes on here disrespecting 58000 men who died before most of you fucks were dribbling down your mommas legs.

7/30/2006 01:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You lost. It was over 30 years ago. Move on.

7/30/2006 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I never said I saved anyone. I never said I was hero. I just do my job. You're the fuckers waving your 3 inch Irish dicks around and beating your pale man tits talking about how you ran it back in the day. Time moves on. Pack your shit, take your 2 years of free money before you die, and get out of town.

7/30/2006 01:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
1:44am
whatever you say pal guess that was easier to say than trying to make up war stories about your alleged eight years active duty. Bet you got some real good cop stories too from your eight years as a dic. So now that we proved you are a full of shit pussy good night. By the way won or lost pussy it was real trigger time not made up bullshit like you.

7/30/2006 01:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You forget to say you my mom.

7/30/2006 01:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fucked

7/30/2006 01:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As far as I can see none of the young guys bragged about anything. They just told you sorry assholes in shiny 80/20's (by the way it's safe to wash them) to shut the fuck up. No one cares how great you think you are.

7/30/2006 01:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
1:48am
One last time pussy. what branch of service?what unit? mos? what war? Now you little pussy you gonna say you never said any of that either. Go fuck yourself kid you are a want to be and a liar. Still waiting pussy who never said any of that. You little fucking cunt are a coward who never served or saw war.

7/30/2006 01:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
1:51 1:52am
No your mom had the clap and herpes from fucking the draft dodging college hippies. Think she was doing duke back then too.

7/30/2006 02:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What did you do asshole? you know what...I'm 78 years old and I fought at Guadalcanal, Saipan, & Iwo Jima. There, I can make shit up just like you. You fuckers think because your twisted mind thinks something that it makes it real or important. Go change your diaper and suck a fat baby's dick. That's all the ass you'll be getting. You're the lying jagoff on here talking about all you did and what you've been through. Tell us some more stories about how you took on 5 jagoffs with 6 shooter, but you had to save one for yourself in case they got the best of you. By the way, all the shit you talk about Nam, is all the same shit the old timers who fought in WWII and Korea talked. Get over yourself. You'll be dead soon and no one will give a fuck.

7/30/2006 02:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
1:55am
your fellow young guy you stick up for considers you part of the proleteriat read his post11:12pm 11:26pm and then tell us who thinks they are so great. This guy thinks heis above all you guys and you stick up for the arrogant goof.No wonder the city and the department finds it so easy to fuck you guys over.

7/30/2006 02:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree. The men came home from Korea & WW2 and just got on with their lives. Some of them were gone for 6 or 7 years. Came home, got married, amd went to work. Never a peep. That's why they were our greatest generation. They did what had to be done and moved on. Unfortunately you old timers are the sorry, self indulged children they raised; who never wanted for anything. I've had 30 years of woe is me Vietnam stories. Get a grip. The only ones you've dragged down is yourselves. Now let me have it like the other guys, but I don't give a fuck. I'm going out on the street instead of sitting here reading the rantings of bitter old men.

7/30/2006 02:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
2:13
Typical new guy 78 makes you too young for those battles. What were you hung over from spring break when they gave that history class? Must have really upset you pussy asking you to prove your bullshit 8 years active duty. Fucking liar.

7/30/2006 02:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just like all the hardcore old timers on here. You all came on after Riordan gave the no more thieving speech, but you act like you policed 1943 Stalingrad for the last 30 years. Go get your free paper and then shake someone down for a free coffee. Bunch of fucking blowhards.

7/30/2006 02:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
2:13am
2:20am
Call the guy on his bullshit and look how upset he gets.

7/30/2006 02:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

recigizs7/30
2:25am
Learn your police department history dumb fuck it wasn't Riordan who gave that speech.

7/30/2006 02:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
2:20am
"are the sorry self indulged children they raised; who never wanted for anything." Talk about rewriting history what college professor told you that shit? Boy some of you guys are really fucked up when it comes to the facts.

7/30/2006 02:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/29
11:12pm 11:55pm
7/30
1:13am 2:13am 2:20am
It is about respect and appreciation for those who serve and have served this country. Now if you want to be direspectful of the men and women who have served are serving and those who paid the ultimate price for your freedom then you have that right. You know why? Because those old veterans earned you that right to talk such bullshit. Now children I suggest you go to an American Legion meeting or a VFW meeting and spout off like you did here. Bet those old vets would kick some ass. For those of us who have served and are serving this country at least have the respect to not come on here and belittle that service. And for those of you who choose to tell us about your alleged active duty time feel free I'm sure all us vets would like to hear your stories. Let's face it you got caught talking shit and when you got called on it you couldn't just answer the questions about your alleged service.

7/30/2006 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why? Was Uncle Ho going to take over my grammar school if we didn't fight? Please explain how the Vietnam war protected my freedoms.

7/30/2006 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why don't you go to a local VFW post and ask them that question?

7/30/2006 11:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
7/29
11:58
They must be fucking each other this is the bi curious generation they learned that in college.

7/30/2006 12:09:57 AM
Dude, between fucking peoples moms and you're obsession with fags this college boy sees one fucked up individual. Get raped by your "uncle" a few times or are you the 50 year old virgin?

7/30/2006 12:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
12:50pm
"Dude" yep definitely anothr college goof. Hope you don't write your reports like that.

7/30/2006 01:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:30
12:50pm
Hmmm need to explain this to you "Dude". Somebody fucked your mom I hate to break that news to you but somebody did.

7/30/2006 01:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
11:26am
Well if nothing else dumb fucks like me who answered the call and served in that war kept pussies like your Father out of it so he could go to college and then raise a disrespectful ungrateful little spoiled ass like you.

7/30/2006 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
7/30
1:44am
whatever you say pal guess that was easier to say than trying to make up war stories about your alleged eight years active duty. Bet you got some real good cop stories too from your eight years as a dic. So now that we proved you are a full of shit pussy good night. By the way won or lost pussy it was real trigger time not made up bullshit like you.

7/30/2006 01:50:43 AM

I honor and respect the service of all vets. However you my friend are a joker. Everyone who wasn't old enough to get drafted into Nam is a pussy? Wearing a vest makes you a pussy? You're in need of a little "help". Oh, did I get you mad? I guess my mom must have sucked your dick then. So you got drafted and did what you had to do. Get over it. Your posts are so over the top and off target that no one is sticking up for you, not even other vets or old timers. Fashion has changed since you were a kid in the 70's and now the young guys use gel so that makes them gay? Grow up. I see a lot of these young "fags" with some hot pieces of female ass. Every post you write only screams that you're a scared old man who is afraid of changing times. Look back to your own youth and try to remember the bitter old fucks, like yourself who you couldn't stand. Guys such as yourself come on the job and talk about the unity of the old days and how everyone now is a cry baby. Well who is causing the disharmony and doing most of the bitching? You Fuckhead!

7/30/2006 01:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You really crack me up you old cave man! College bad! Your mom slut! Great combacks!Obviously stupid comments like this are something that would bother you, so here goes. My college ass is going to make another "educated" guess. You have a lot of unresolved issues with your own "mommy". Had to watch her "hammmered" to make the rent, whilst daddy was off in Korea getting his "trigger time", I suspect.

7/30/2006 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
1:10pm
Still waiting to hear about your "eight years of active duty" or "my wars were over quickly" What war what branch what rank what mos? You are a liar and a chicken shit.

7/30/2006 01:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
1;18pm
say what you want but be a man and answer the questions admit you lied never were active duty during any wars

7/30/2006 01:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
1:10pm
Back to the reading comprehension thing. Nobody said wearing a vest made you a pussy. Nobody said not getting drafted for Nam made anybody a pussy. Nobody said anything about being a kid in the 70's. Nobody said they were drafted. Yep with comprehension skills like that you newer guys do need 30% meritorious.

7/30/2006 01:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
11:26am
Ok read the guys post again. The one from 9:19am. Ok now read it one more time. Ok now tell me where Vietnam or Uncle Ho are mentioned? Ok now understand what the man was telling you. You have your freedom thanks to all veterans who have served and those who are serving now. I know this concept is taken for granted but veterans and those who have made the ultimate sacrifice since the birth of this country gave you your freedom and have maintained that freedom for you. Now the sad part is spoiled selfish people like you don't appreciate their sacrifices but you know what? That's ok because those of us who serve and have served will never forget the sacrifice made by some. You know what else is really sad? That you lack the intelligence to read a simple post and comprehend what is written. Instead you read something and interject your misunderstanding into the conversation. Might I suggest you take some remedial reading courses and then some history lessons to educate yourself. Then take a ride to Arlington Cemetery and the Vietnam Memorial and then come back and tell all us vets that fighting for spoiled unappreciative people like you made no difference in your freedom.

7/30/2006 02:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
7/30
1:10pm
Back to the reading comprehension thing. Nobody said wearing a vest made you a pussy. Nobody said not getting drafted for Nam made anybody a pussy. Nobody said anything about being a kid in the 70's. Nobody said they were drafted. Yep with comprehension skills like that you newer guys do need 30% meritorious.

7/30/2006 01:48:37 PM

I comprehend the drivel you write but it is also very easy to infer what a simpleton like you is really saying. My ability to analyze and comprehend makes it easy for me to score in the top 2% as earlier stated. For instance if you were in Nam, you were very likely in your teens or twenties (a kid) in the 70's.Its also fairly obvious that you're angry that you had to go and you're jealous of these new guys who got to go to college during the same period of your life when you were stuck in the middle of a terrible war.Also fairly obvious was that you were a real man because you were in Viet Nam and came on before vests were required.God bless those parents who were able to "spoil" their kids with an education. Even though I called myself a "college boy", I let the city pay for mine insteaded of bitching when the test required a degree.I came on the job with a H.S. diploma and am not a two year wonder or a house mouse. I just sick of bitter old fucks riding these new kids for nothing.Btw I am not the guy who said he had 8 years active duty. You have more than one person writing about what a fool you are. Lose the rage buddy, stop blaming the young'uns for everything and get some professional help before you end up eating that service revolver.

7/30/2006 04:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank my throbbing member for the balls deep going over I gave your daughter last night. She wasn't eating donuts for breakfast buddy, that's my glaze on her chin.

7/30/2006 04:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, that's for super-vet-cop.

7/30/2006 04:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What difference does it make what the guy says he did or where he was in the service. You are a stark raving lunatic that will call him a liar and then rant on about how great you are. If you think these young coppers (although a guy with 8 years in the military and 15 years on the job is hardly young) are screwballs, well they are a product of their environment. An environment that your generation of policemen helped create through your actions or interactions. The world changes, it's just the way it is. get some professional help. You sound like John Goodman's character in the Big Lebowski. It did a great job of lampooning crazy assholes like you.

7/30/2006 04:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
4:36pm
It may not matter to you but go to the "Night Off" topics and check post7/30 4:12pm. You see it matters to some of us we don't like bullshiters and wannabes. How about you don't say it unless you did do it. Foreign concept to some of you guys around here.

7/30/2006 05:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
4:19pm
If this is what my taxes pay for you to get your cracker box degree from Lewis I want my money back. Nice that you feel qualified to "infer" for someone else when you don't even know who you are talking to. Think you are the only guy here promoted or with a degree? get over yourself goofball. I feel for the people that have to work with a conceipted person like you. I would bet that with your great superior attitude and personality you like the young new guys because you impress them with this shit you talk. I would also bet you have a problem getting respect from the old timers who see through your top 2% bullshit.

7/30/2006 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"conceited"

7/30/2006 05:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jesus top 2% tell us again. Talk about someone who needs to get a life. You passed a Chicago promotional exam you got to be kidding me. A fucking brain dead monkey could do that. Get over yourself. God I hope you didn't "infer" in your case reports and arrest reports. Go see the shrink you are way to full of yourself to be considered normal and safe. We need you in callback where you can "infer" all you want.

7/30/2006 06:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Delete this whole post!!!!! It's some of the dumbest shit I've read here.

7/30/2006 07:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Force the unpromotable off at 20. Cut the dead weight free.

7/30/2006 09:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice that you feel qualified to "infer" for someone else when you don't even know who you are talking to.

The above posted by a guy who assumes he fucked someone's mom. Who needs to be psyched?

7/30/2006 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Think you are the only guy here promoted or with a degree? get over yourself goofball. I feel for the people that have to work with a conceipted person like you. I would bet that with your great superior attitude and personality you like the young new guys because you impress them with this shit you talk. I would also bet you have a problem getting respect from the old timers who see through your top 2% bullshit.

To answer your questions.... I think there are many smart people of ALL ages on the department. Many have a degree, but you think degrees are for people who don't know shot about police work.I bring up the 2% thing as a joke because it obviously burns your balls. You feel sorry for the people who work with me? I'm not the one telling them they aren't shit because they don't have a few decades on the job. I work in a busy place so most of the old timers have gone on to greener pastures but I get along with everyone except for bitter hard asses with chips on their shoulders.Also, I have great respect for all that served this country in war and peace, even Guard and Reserves. I just have a little more respect for those who have been able to handle it with a little more class and dignity. You never used inference or deduction as a policeman, you must even be more special than I thought.

7/30/2006 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30
11:07pm
Bottom line we got a liar about his eight years military active duty. We got a guy who now admits he claims to be in the top 2% as a joke cause it busts balls. And you guys wonder why this job is getting fucked up? Liars and wannabes are on this job so watch your backs fellow po's.

7/31/2006 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the asshole liar about the service wants to be in the military so bad, let's ship him off to Iraq! Then let's see how his mouth will flap over there

SEMPER FI

7/31/2006 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
7/30
11:07pm
Bottom line we got a liar about his eight years military active duty. We got a guy who now admits he claims to be in the top 2% as a joke cause it busts balls. And you guys wonder why this job is getting fucked up? Liars and wannabes are on this job so watch your backs fellow po's.

7/31/2006 12:53:33 AM

Pay atention... I really was in the Top %2 but I was mentioning it just to bust chops,Starsky.Holy Fuck you're dumber than I thought,thanks for making it so easy for guys like me!

7/31/2006 02:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2%2%2%2%2%2% get over it stroke.

7/31/2006 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting facts:
There were no vests then, how many now would work without one if they had to?
That speech wasn't from Riordan it was from O W Wilson.
Guys carried second guns some were 44 magnums, they didn't do it cause of dirty Harry. Joe Kosala is one guy I remember that
carried one. They also carried single action automatics.
Uniform pants were wool.
Spring jacket was a blouse.
Mag lights Kel lights were good multipurpose tools.
Captains took tests.
Coppers were issued call box keys cause there were still call boxes.They also opened other city boxes, taffic light boxes.
Watches rotated.
At that time college wasn't needed to come on or promotion.

7/31/2006 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey you old fucking twit. You don't have to use that 3" flaccid tool between your legs to do your thinking anymore. Try using that walnut sized brain that failed you on so many tests. I don't have to tell you shit about what I did in the service. Who the fuck put you in charge? You're the one telling lies on here about what you've done on the job and the military. Take your non-volunteering, drafted, 2 year active duty ass off to Arkansas. You have 5 good years left...max. You can tell hero stories to the squirrels and raccoons. Depends are tax deductible down there too.

7/31/2006 06:29:00 PM  

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