Monday, July 24, 2006

Living Wage Ordinance

The so called "Big Box" ordinance comes up for a vote Wednesday and we for one are hoping Wal-Mart and Target stick to their guns in the event of passage of this bill. The only way to break this city and the union strangleholds on the democratic party is to keep their stores on the periphery of the city, staffed by citizens from the city and citizens from the city shopping there, but the city and the unions reaping no benefits from head taxes, sales taxes and the like.

From the Tribune article:
  • "Expanding retail companies are not going to invest their money in a community that doesn't respect their right to operate their business in a fashion that's OK in 99.9 percent of the rest of the country."
If people don't want to shop there, the store will close. If employees don't want to work there for $7 dollars an hour, they are welcome to look elsewhere. We'll bet plenty of illegal immigrants will step up to the plate.


Blogger leomemorial said...

We need more jobs here, moreso on the southside!!!! Every day I speak to so many people on the train who have to commute hours each day because of the lack of jobs here!!

Many of these people commute a long way just to earn slightly more then the min. wage. Damn sad.

7/24/2006 12:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Evergreen Park is raking in the money that could've been Chicago's, since they got the WalMart on 95th st. instead of on 83rd and Vincennes. If you talk to anyone who works for WalMart they are not complaining and are actually happy to be employed. And I really don't want to hear all the union b.s., the heads of most of them are as bad as King richie and co.

7/24/2006 05:09:00 AM  
Blogger richardaustin151 said...

The living wage ordinance is a good idea. These stores reap profits and yet fail to pay their employees a decent wage. One cannot live in the city on seven dollars an hour and minimal or no health care benefits. The low pay also encourages illegal immigrants to apply for jobs there and many may slip through the cracks if they have fake Social Security Cards.

These stores also drive out the smaller stores from a community, leaving the only option to shop with them. If they do not like paying a real living wage to people, then they should leave or not be allowed to build new stores here. Let them stay in the suburbs.

7/24/2006 06:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YA!!! screw organized labor!! They should make it illegal!

7/24/2006 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey richardaustin151, maybe you should study economics instead of how to screw other cops. Imposed wage or price controls are detrimental to economic growth. Oh, I guess because you are a school teacher, you know everything.

7/24/2006 07:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The WalMart in Evergreen Park is already torn apart inside and looking like it is a 30 year old store in need of renovation. Also, when they opened up the place, WalMart made a big deal out of saying that there were close to 25,000 applications for 350 jobs.
Now, take a guess as to how many of those 350 people were fired in the first week....I'll tell you, 58 were dumped. 52 were for shoplifting from the store, and six were for job abandonment. One of the fired shoplifters/workers was the door guy who is supposed to check all packages, including all employee packages. He was in on the scam to let employees walk out with whatever they wanted. Caught on videotape and convicted of Felony Shoplifting.
Don't believe me? Call the Evergreen Park Chamber of Commerce. I spoke with someone there, and they gave me the figures...

7/24/2006 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Walmartez," and knocking out all the "mom and pop" stores out of bussiness around 83rd-Vincennes, only if Walmart also opened a storefront church at their store.

7/24/2006 09:02:00 AM  
Blogger loaded dice in Vegas said...


7/24/2006 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry to change topic but this is important. a few days back somebody wrote that the City home drug delivery through Caremark was going up 400% for the 90 day refills.

just got off the phone with Shanaynay(yeah, she works there now)and she says that the co-pay is $44 for the refill is i just placed. so that would be up $2 from $42.

i hope he was just given some bad info by an intern and not a joke, because it ain't fucken funny!

7/24/2006 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

richardaustin151 said...

The low pay also encourages illegal immigrants to apply for jobs there

Funniest shit I've read on here in a long time.

7/24/2006 03:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I'm glad someone read my post.

My wife ordered a refill (Tricor)which use to cost $15. for 90 days (Brand Medicine) no generic available and it now cost's $60.(4 times more) for same refill since July 1st.

Look at the contract (on the FOP website around page 108!) and it shows the new prices. A grid shows Pharmacy prices, for 30 day supplies, (Osco, Walgreens, etc.) and below that is a grid for Mail in (Caremark) for 90 day supplies. Generic use to be $5., now it's $20. (4x increase). Brand use to be $15. now it's $60. (4x increase).

On page 107 it show the new increases taken from your paycheck since July 1st.

Generic now costs more also.

Also Walgreen's will charge a larger co-pay for any med. (less than 30 days).

We need to start barking at FOP for what they did to us.

We can understand the raise in rates on our paychecks, but the raise in co-pays is off the wall.

Don't believe me? Look it up on the FOP website!

Our bill for two Brand medicines and one generic (90 Supply) went from $35. ($15+$15+$5=$35) to $140. ($60+$60+$20=$140).

Many of these newer drugs do not have any generic's available and won't have them for years to come, so your stuck paying the higher price for Brand.

The city is the one saving on our higher co-pays.

Are there any more officers out there who have gone to the drugstore recently? Or who order thru mail in? Please speak up!

7/24/2006 03:31:00 PM  
Blogger dilligaf said...

I had script that the HMO picked up 100%. Just paid $10 for a 30 day supply 2 weeks ago.

7/24/2006 03:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

$7 or 8 dollars an hours is better than 0 dollars an hour. No one made them apply and work at the box stores. Do you really think the city will let them leave and miss out on those tax dollars.

7/24/2006 03:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:39, when were you in the ev. pk. walmart? I was there last week and its in better shape than the one on cicero, harlem, lagrange or 159th.

7/24/2006 04:23:00 PM  
Blogger Malcolm X's little brother said...

How come European-Americans want to tell people of color what can and cannot come into their neighborhoods? Think any European-Americans will come to the South or West sides to work at Wal-Mart? Let the people run their own neighborhoods.

7/24/2006 06:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes. And let the company's run the company's. It's called capitalism.

7/24/2006 07:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oops. Typed too fast. Make that, "Let the companies run the their companies.

7/24/2006 07:54:00 PM  
Anonymous schicklegroover said...

Both stores are amazing financial success stories for a reason. WalMart, especially, is one of the most efficiently run, forward-looking corporations in the world. Don't you think the cheap, chiseling, two-bit extortionists are a bit outclassed? Yeah, they're gonna get over on WalMart because WalMart has no idea how to get things done. It's pure luck that they've achieved total dominance in market share and profit in one of the most competitive sectors of the world economy. My guess is that the union types are making this noise to be a nuisance and will receive some type of "reward" when they back off and let those they represent twist in the wind. Sound familiar, fellow FOP members?

7/24/2006 08:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't bash the FOP! They live a life of sacrifice, with minimal financial recompense for those they represent! Hasn't anyone seen the ghetto hovels past FOP officers live in? Then there's their summer hovels, water-borne hovels (boats), hovels gifted to their children...
Fuck the sarcasm. Let me ask a really simple question:
Assuming FOP past and recent present are not stupid (and they are not), Why would they let coppers get fucked over unless they somehow benefited?
Christ, I know everyone wants to wet their beak a little and for that I can look the other way. But these grubbing, greedhead shitlickers want it ALL at OUR FAMILYS' expense!

7/24/2006 08:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP, Lodge #7 has been a scam since its inception. John Dineen, the second president made a deal with the city that he and the FOP would never, ever challenge the system. That is why you cannot bid into specialized units like Intelligence, Narcotics, SOS, Vice, etc. Instead of being the highest paid employees because we risk our lives, we are paid a mediocore salary. Instead of being rewarded with benefits, we continually lose.

The history of the FOP has been to take care of the City and screw the police. It is funny that other FOP lodges that are unions fight for their members and are a force to be reckoned with. FOP7 are just a bunch of court jesters. We pay the price.

7/24/2006 08:25:00 PM  
Anonymous schicklegroover said...

And the next puppets will run against some other puppets so that we think we get a choice and the sheep will follow. Police should know better. Why does a group of people who spend their lives suspicious of everyone's motives, who see liars day in and out, fall so easily for such an obvious ass-fucking every time?

7/24/2006 08:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm Latino Malcolm Little's brother. Don't include me in your people of color bullshit. You people live like animals. You'll be shit out of luck when we're running it.

7/24/2006 09:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 4:23 p.m. 24 Jul 06

I was in there about 10 days ago, on a Friday afternoon, and it was really filthy. I have never been in the other ones you mentioned, so I have no idea what they are like

7/24/2006 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Joe_McCarthy said...

Our bill for two Brand medicines and one generic (90 Supply) went from $35. ($15+$15+$5=$35) to $140. ($60+$60+$20=$140).


Hey Pink-o, huge multi-billion dollar corporations need to make some money too! Shut up or go back to Russia!

7/24/2006 09:23:00 PM  
Anonymous 20%'er said...

is why you cannot bid into specialized units like Intelligence, Narcotics, SOS, Vice, etc

and just who would "bid" to those spots if it were open? some Retired On-Duty old timer well past his prime? That would not help the "problem" that *you* imagine. Is it a perfect system? no, but whether you want to believe it or not, there are some solid hard working guys in units. It not much different from the Dist's. Wherever you go there is always the 80/20 rule. 80% of the work is done by 20% of the people. Besides, the grass isn't always greener....

7/24/2006 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another attempt by the "people" to extort a corporation. I hope these stores tell this city to stick it up their ass! Since when do they have the right to tell a corporation how to run their business? And a half-ass rule that only applies to certain stores? I hope these stores avoid this city. Then what will be gained??

7/24/2006 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


7/24/2006 11:10:00 PM  
Anonymous agree with above said...

Yea, they are arguing for the sake of they won't look so bad when they walk off with their huge increase....what kind of Rx benefit do the aldercreeps have? It probably a lot better than ours.

7/24/2006 11:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Walmart is very successful because they buy their goods from Chinese sweatshops...that's right... put a tariff on them goods Pres Bush. Bring home the manufacturing jobs sent overseas while your at it. Walmart on Touhy/Central looks like your walking into a foreign country ... looked like a bunch of Pakis searching for the river Ganges.

7/25/2006 02:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

80/20% in a District or unit? What are you smoking? It's more like 95/5%. Theres only a handful of people in my district that actually do anything. The rest are just along for the ride.

7/25/2006 05:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...




You are right Joe. I will go back to Russia for my Meds. They are probably cheaper there because the state issues them, if available.

My point is, we are paying a higher co-pay while the city is paying a much lower co-pay since July 1st.

Caremark is getting the same amount of money, it's just split up different.

Why did we let the city get away with this little item. What did we gain by much higher co-pays for medicine?

If I'm a Pinko for wanting to know about our healthcare benefits (which are getting worse every contract), you Mr. joe mc carthy are an ASSHAT!

Reply Welcome?

7/25/2006 02:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We don' need nobody dat nobody sent; we don' need no stinkin stores; we don' need no stinkin tax money. We need a DRINK!!

7/25/2006 04:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jon Burge is doing the security for Walmart--shoplifting is down and so is employee theft. Some electrical and burn marks but....

7/25/2006 11:50:00 PM  

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