Burge Report Fallout
There is none.
Ok, maybe not "none," but damn little for anyone who really reads this thing to hang their hat on. Yes, Burge led a group of rogue detective who put the hurt on a number of bad people. But all in all? There was no widespread torture throughout the system that would indicate a policy of abuse. It was isolated to a small segment of Area 2. Anyone who claims it was "routine" or other such nonsense is blowing smoke. If you haven't read the report cover to cover, here's how you can tell in an instant that it contains almost nothing of substance:
Ok, maybe not "none," but damn little for anyone who really reads this thing to hang their hat on. Yes, Burge led a group of rogue detective who put the hurt on a number of bad people. But all in all? There was no widespread torture throughout the system that would indicate a policy of abuse. It was isolated to a small segment of Area 2. Anyone who claims it was "routine" or other such nonsense is blowing smoke. If you haven't read the report cover to cover, here's how you can tell in an instant that it contains almost nothing of substance:
- The mayor apologizing and taking "some" responsibility
- Jesse is quiet.
That's all you need to know. The mayor stepping up and the reverend keeping quiet means there isn't much there. Had the mayor shut up and the reverend was raising the rafters isn't necessarily an indication of wrongdoing, but rather an indication that settlement money could be located to keep the lawyers happy. Junior is making noises about how the mayor's explanation isn't "enough," but he's running a shadow campaign to counter an alleged Gutierrez campaign and has to say something.
Coverage at all the regular spots (2, 5, 7, Sun Times, Tribune)
Coverage at all the regular spots (2, 5, 7, Sun Times, Tribune)
posted by SCC at 12:34 AM
47 Comments:
Burge is the white man's martyr!!!
Stop calling that adulterous hypocrite, Reverand!
hardly a man of God.
Hey SCC, how about an open post about our healthcare increases?
Did anyone notice the heafty increase at Walgreens for Meds?
Or the 400% increase at Caremark for home pharmacy orders?
Not a peep from FOP!
Does OLE know that after munching on his fine Hispanic Ass, he will need a dose of medicine that will cost mucho dinero?
Who's watching our back on that contract? Not FOP!
Anyone notice that their paycheck was a bit smaller on the 16th for additional healthcare increases?
Thank you FOP for cutting a deal with the city!
The animal's allegaions of brutality are going to go up 10-fold due to this report. And they will ALL be Sustained.
If you are going to do the time...do the crime!
Just remember to put the wrong address on the arrest report so the Sgt. can't track pookie down to get the sworn statement signed.
And remember, there are no cameras in the back of the wagon.
Does anybody esle find it odd that a cop killer is whining about being beaten by cops (wilson).
HE WAS LUCKY TO BE ARRESTED!
HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A MISSING PERSON!!!
What sounds better?
Fuck You, PIG!
SMACK
$$$$$$$$$
or
Fuck You, Pig!
BANG
Squad, taking one to detox.
SPLASH
We have a locker in the 8th district that has all kinds of torture weapons. Say a prisoner is giving you shit, you just go upstairs to locker #145 and you have a plethora of stuff to choose from. My favorite is the "1 crack rock drop" followed by the "Phone book drop to the balls" Man I love framing and beating innocent people! P.S. who ever used the last drop gun and bag of weed please replace it.
Thank you for the early A.M. humour LMAO all the way to my bed. Good Night and stay safe!
hmmm.you can learn alot from a old timer like burge and others.beat on a suspect then charge him with a crime instead of letting 'em go.i bet comito and thiel wished they had gone that route.
Boy Daley sure rolled over on the CPD in the suntimes today. Why would any one keep quiet for him?
If you have read the report you see now that they blame the wagon crew for beating Wilson. Poor Bill Mulvaney. He's dead and now they blame him. Ain't that a crock of shit. The whole report SUCKS.
$ 7,000,000.00 FARC! If you don't have anything to do read the report and you'll see what a farce it is.
We onlt have ourselves to blame for letting fop fuck us regarding medical. I am to the point where I could care less what happends. I am on to bigger and better things due to the fact we as Police Officers cant stick together.
Remember me when I told you...get another side gig going and fuck this city. Collect a check and thats it.
GOD BLESS JON BURGE!!!!
what about the part of the Burge report that said the special prosecutors used an investigative company, comprised exclusively of retired FBI agents. They are really around to help us.
2:42AM
Stay outta Gunny's locker bro! That tattooed freak will eat you alive if he catches ya messing with his stash of torture devices. Or are you NOT afraid to have a 270lb muscle head exploring your cavities with a 4in dick with a barbed wire tat on the shaft?
You are soooo in trouble NOW! Leave his shit alone! 008th district is the best!!!
Now all the goofs will believe that the police are actually abusing CRIMINALS and there will be plenty of them claiming abuse to avoid being held accountable for the crimes they commit. Why the fuck can't these same goofs realize that these people don't want to take ANY responsibility for their crimes??
Fuck blaming the police, how about blaming THEM, the murderers, who murdered these people???? Where the fuck are the families of the murder victims? They should be glad that the police caught the bastards!
The Daley family never liked the police anyway, so now the Mayor si throwing Cline and the Department out to dry once more...
where can we read this report? is it on the net? anyone know
As a soon to be retired P.O.:
The exit door is well in sight. I had a good 31 years. I've lead a charmed life. Had my shit out on a lotta dudes and dude-ettes. Last time I looked no bullet holes in me. It is time to go.
All I can say to you youngsters is: Tie your hat on. It's gonna be worse than ever.
It isn't just Daley, Cline, Starks, or the sitting State's Attorney.... It is the whole fucking system.
First the miranda. We perservered.
Then this ridiculous Felony Review
Then the 48 hour rule....
Then videotaping of homicides......
Videotaping in squads is a-coming..
GPS.....
The thing that will get us all is general lack in confidence in the police by the good public; precipitated by the media whores, and the rebberand.....
Anyhow, thanks for letting me be on the show... Got a few more periods and see-ya!
I might get a job with Cook County. I see that their PD has a bunch of ex-CPD nitwits there. As a beat guy, an EX-FTO (when we taught po-licing) and a tact guy who knows? I could be the next Chief of Police at the Sheriffs!
Hello Tommy Dart?
Tick-Tock, Tick-Tock, Tick-Tock
2:42, PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR NAME AND STAR I WOULD LIKE TO GET A CR#! YOU PATROLMAN MAKE ME SICK!
is it true that sgt. dick in 020 came on the job when he was 45yrs old?
Anonymous said...
Stop calling that adulterous hypocrite, Reverand!
hardly a man of God.
7/22/2006 12:47:12 AM
Sort of remind you of some of those Catholic Priests!!!!
OLE!!!It's time to dine on some fine black female copper ass! I love to skim my tongue through the curly black hairs searching for her raisins...OLE!!!
They should erect a bronze statue of Burge and honor those detectives for not killing those assholes. At the very least name a street after Burge . Oh yeah, and fuck Daley, for a big potato head mic he has no brains!
Thank God there were coppers like Burge and Co. who were willingly to go the extra-mile to get cop killers off the streets. Personally, they shoulda just whacked em before they got to the station, but Burge was a fair man. He allowed them to live. I'm pleased that he is doing great and living large in Florida! We can all be a little more like Cmdr Burge...Fuck CAPS!
1105 You said Bro! Doesn't the negro offender realize they should have been 6ft under? Burge let them live. meanwhile the coppers that the animal killed are dead. Burge should be honored by every black offender, because he allowed them to exist!
BURGE WILL ALWAYS BE HONORED HERE IN AREA 2. THE BOYS KNOW HE WAS A CLASS ACT AND HAD THEIR BACKS. TIME TO SCHOOL THE BLACK NEGRO IN WEST BEVERLY HOW TO STAY AWAY FROM OUR KIDS. BURGE WOULD HAVE MADE HIS POINT CLEAR AND THERE WOULD BE NO DISPUTE. GOD BLESS THE MAN AND HIS FAMILY. GREAT JOB ON PUTTING THE DUKE AWAY ALL THEM YEARS. ENJOY YOUR PENSION AND REMEMBER-YOU WON.
Does anybody know where to find this report? I would love to read the almost 300 pages of bullshit and see how they can believe these nit-wits all these years later...
I'm no great lover of the FOP,but it's my understanding that an arbitrator gave the city permission
to raise the medical costs,the FOP foughtit.Correct me if I'm wrong.
Instead of wasting time going to ridiculous drinking parties in DC we should send a contingent of Chicago Police Officers to South Dakota and carve the likenesses of Burge, Yukaitis, and O'Hara next to the other hero's on Mt. Rushmore.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-burge20.html#
This is where to go for the entire report
BURGE ROCKS !!!
Little man Daley, Peoples Law Office, Flint Taylor, CPD shakey leadership, etc, = GIRLEY MEN !!!
BURGE FOR MAYOR !!!
YOU GO BROTHER JON, YOU'RE MORE OF A REAL MAN THAN ALL THESE PANTY-WASTES PUT TOGETHER !!!
Andrews pretends to be a detective almost as much as he pretends that he is straight. "The ultimate leader is one who is willing to develop people to the point that they eventually surpass him or her in knowledge and ability."
It use to be that the Detective Division relied on its experience from seasoned Detectives, Sergeants, Lieutenants and Commanders to train the up and coming. When you have a Commander that does not have that experience and consistently overrides the decision of his managers the system beaks down. The Detectives have stopped trying to do more because they are tired of being slapped down by Dean. The Lieutenants and Sergeants have been rendered ineffective because the men they manage know that their decision doesn’t matter and that the decision will always be up to Dean and no one else. The supervisors lack the intestinal fortitude to stand up to Dean for what they believe in fear of losing their precious spot or being dumped to midnights. Dean dumps supervisors and detectives with no expectation and no regard for their work, experience, or the personal hardship it may cause; for some personnel this was too much to bear. Dean makes his management decisions based on personal reasons and how it affects only Dean, regardless what it best for the Division or the police officers they serve.
Andrews is not a leader, he expects people to listen and follow because he wears a gold star and not because he has earned their respect for the position he holds. The difference between a good Commander and Dean is; Dean says, Go! – a true boss says, Let’s go!
Andrews cannot expect to hold the loyalty of his detectives when he speaks to them as if they are insignificant. Andrews its time to look and the mirror and see the person you have become and not the god you think you are!
"Clout may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there."
To : 7/22/2006 02:51:27 PM
You hit it right on the head. I do not work for Andrews but you could replace his name with a lot of our exempt members on this dept and what you said rings true. We have always had clout on the Dept but the difference is that before the clout people, Dist commanders and above were never seen. They stayed away and got drunk on duty. I'm not saying its right but the Sgt and to a lesser extent the Lt's were left to run things. When I came on you never spoke with the DC and hardly ever saw the WC. They had clout, they knew it but stayed away. Now these exempts for the most part were at one time or another meritoriously promoted then made exempts. They now believe they know better then those under them. the Det division is a perfect example of this. there are people with many years experience there who are being told how to do their jobs by Merits with less time and no experience in the unit. This is why Officers and Dets do not try as hard. It sucks going into a test already 30 percent down because you have no clout. I could go on and on but I know I'm preaching to the choir. Everybody be safe and don't let these idiot exempts put you in harms way.
OCD is exactly yhr same.
From the Deputy down to the Sgt.'s
Yes, someone needs to sponsor you to get you in OCD, but it is not that big of a deal.
Most of the recent P.O. who have gone to OCD did some work in the districts. Not like the old days.
99% clout, 1% talent.
Now 50/50.
The Sgt.s are the worst. Merit Sgt. gets brought back to OCD in4 - 6 months after graduating.
They actually believe they deserve it.
I can name at least 18 merit Sgt. who work in OCD.
None of them are strong enough to admit they received a huge gift. They all believe they earned it.
Then when Lt. exam is announced, they are already thinking of Merit.
Should be in the G.O.'s - ONLY ONE MERIT PROMOTION IN ONE'S CAREER.
That will put an end to Merit Sgt - Lt. Commander - D.C. - ADS - Chief - Assistant Deputy Supt - First Deputy - Super!
By the By: How about all this testing to get to special units - Marine, Mounted, Canine, FingerPrint, Bomb and Arson.
How do they make these test?
Bomb and Arson seems screwed up.
You have to be a D2A to take the exam. And I think that is how you get to be an Explosives Tech. I,II,III.
Do you think maybe there is one P.O. on this job who has indepth training in explosives and chemicals that may be better qualified than a Detective?
Easy there D2A! No disresepct. Just a thought.
TO: 7/22/2006 04:34:22 PM
No offense taken. I'm a Det and have NO experience with explosives. There are a lot of POs who were in the Military who could run rings around me on that subject. Who would you rather have show up when you have a suspicious package?
How's morale, guys?
Give me a wake-up call when the job goes legit!
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
The FOP allowed the contract vote which traded $2.00 a paycheck medical insurance cost for a pittance of a signing bonus.
Now look at what we have and what we lost. We used to have great plans which were part of our compensation package.
How much a paycheck do the mayor and the aldermen contribute for medical insurance? What plans do they get now and what do they get at retirement?
The FOP allowed the contract vote which traded $2.00 a paycheck medical insurance cost for a pittance of a signing bonus.
If i remember rightly this was the contract where they just basically starved us out. it was a take it or leave it, after we rejected it once the city stopped bargaining and we sat at an impasse for 3 yrs.Alot of harm was done during that dispute and as usual King Richard got his way not saying right or wrong I just want the younger to know that many fought the good fight and were threatened with firing for partaking in a job action during this dispute. Those that forget history are doomed to repeat it
Well said fillmoreranger! Amen to you!
Those two bucks cost us thousands over the years. Thank you FOP (NOT)!
And don't forget the straight ticket, what a dismal failure!
Since we were allowed to have a contract and since FOP, Fool Our Police, has been the so called union, we have not gained one thing. We have lost. Sure our pay has risen, but only slightly. Sure we get time and a half.
We used to have free medical and dental. FOP gave it away. We used to have bosses who took care of us. FOP saw to it that it is us against them. We used to have a host of benefits for free. FOP gave the kit and kaboodle away.
They are not and never have been a union. The only time they may be useful is if you shoot someone. Franlky, I'd rather have a good detective than FOP helping me.
Oh yeah. Ever since they have been our so called union, some of us have always asked how come all units are not bid. Their answer, "that's the way the city wants it and you should have clout to get into a unit."
They have given us the ignoblke title of losers.
"Those that forget history are doomed to repeat it"
7/22/2006 07:35:35 PM
How about those who make up history? You were never assigned to Fillmore.
What's worse, a Marine fake or a Fillmore fake?
THERE IS NO FILLMORE
what are the names of the Detectives in the Burge report? Who are they, are they still on the job?
...Anonymous said...
what are the names of the Detectives in the Burge report? Who are they, are they still on the job?...
Why don't you read it?
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