Friday, March 30, 2007

Fighting Back Part II

We get fan mail every so often from civilians. What follows is a typical such letter:
  • Thank you for providing the missing other side of the story! Something hasn't smelled right about all this finger pointing at the Grand District captain, and unlike Mr. Abbate's behavior truly being inexcusable, my feeling as an average citizen has been that not all the facts are being reported. There are no cops in my family, but one of my most meaningful experiences as part of a civic leadership program was spending an entire shift with a cop on patrol; seems to me that sitting in a squad car when pulling over a van with tinted windows ought to be a prerequisite for any reporter who covers the police.
We'll leave out his name, home address, business address, work numbers, his HOME telephone number and CELL phone number that he was open and honest enough to provide. We do have some fans out there boys and girls - just because the media chooses to spotlight everyone with an axe to grind doesn't mean we don't have our supporters. Few and far between they may be, but they are supporters none the less.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

On Wednesday while returning to my squad car I heard a car horn blowing.
I turned around and a young woman said to me from her open car window,
not everyone hates you.
I think you guys are great!
She then drove off.

3/29/2007 11:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could you please explain to me why you're a Chicago cop from an eastern time zone? I don't doubt your authenticity, but are you blogging from Indiana maybe?

3/29/2007 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very well said!

3/29/2007 11:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not proud of what Abbote did , but how can that fat ass say he tarnished the dept. more than any other officer is the dumbest thing he's ever said. I would say the lowest of them all would be the three officers who fled on their partner during that armed robbery take the cake bar none!

3/30/2007 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good to know that some people do appreciate the fact that we as P.O.'s put our lives in danger every single time we go out there!!!

3/30/2007 01:09:00 AM  
Blogger dilligaf said...

God bless you and your own.

3/30/2007 01:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the new "cooperation" between the State's Attorney, and the CPD are going to result in more stripped P.O.'S due to force complaints, than stop working. Police work requires the use of force. And it is not done in a vacum, it is done in fractions of a second. So take the time you need to decide not to do work. Handle your jobs...
That's all folks.
Why place yourselef in a position where your going to have to use force, and than leave it up to a State's Attorney to decide weather or not to should be locked up, for doing Police Work.
Answer Dont Do The Work.
DONT MAKE STREET STOPS
DONT MAKE TRAFFIC STOPS
DONT MAKE ON VIEW ARRESTS.
DONT IMPOUND VEHICLES
DONT WRITE PARKING TICKETS.(you might get demoted)
NO MORE TRAFFIC CITATIONS
NO MORE A.N.O.V'S
NO MORE CTA CHECKS
NO MORE FOOT PATROL
NO MORE CURFEWS


LIMIT YOUR CITIZEN CONTACTS TO A
BARE MINNUM.

3/30/2007 01:35:00 AM  
Anonymous snethen said...

I like to think that the only civilians that don't like us are the BAD ones.

3/30/2007 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The letter hit the nail on the head. Thank you for those kind words.
Walk a day in someone elses shoes. How many of those with their high and mighty opinions could walk a day in the shoes of a Police Officer? How many could see what we see, deal with what we deal with, on top of all the political interference. Working for "bosses" who can't run their own households let alone an entire department or even district. The only way the police can be perfect is to be robots.

3/30/2007 02:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Mr Citizen, Thank You. Contrary to what the news says, most of us were abhorred by what he did. However, the piling on is ridiculous. The media have an agenda and no longer report but sensationalize, especially when we are not allowed to say anything thereby making it onesided. I lived elsewhere prior to coming on the job and found the reporting much more professional. they are nothing but the Enquirer.

3/30/2007 02:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's what frosts my ass. If true...some snot nosed over educated liberal yuppy useless fucks flip lip to a grieving cop in a bar. I'm old school so I say the yuppies got what they deserved.

Yet if the yuppies arent in control they cry whine and bitch. Poor fuckin yuppies became victims of their own demise. Next time keep your fuckin mouths shut. I say the fuckin yuppies got what they deserved, just as the media stated when the Baseball players beat the shit out of those guys for attacking the ump????

Tell me .... whats the difference. I say to fuckin bad. If you cant handle your mouth, then accept getting your asses handed to you.

You liberal assholes make me sick. Try doing a ride along in a fast district. You will shit your pants before coffee time is over.

3/30/2007 04:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I go to work, I see officers who are genuinely trying to do the best they can.
Some are college educated, some not, but one thing they do have in common is the “call”.
Most, if not 99 percent of officers go to work each day because of an inner calling, a calling that the average person wouldn’t understand. A calling to help someone who just got trashed by their scum of a boyfriend, who has a rap sheet longer than most novels.
You see a real policeman isn’t in it for the glory, there is none. Most people stopped liking us after the 68 convention. That was the time of Aquarius when confronting authority became the norm.

We need to go back to the basics of police work. Yes, my experience has found that most beat officers know where the crime areas are and who the criminals are as well. Save the daily missions for the so called elite units. The commander of a district was someone you never saw. He was all powerful. He relied on his watch commanders to run the show and discussions were done in private. The bosses let the men and women be the police. You want crime reduced? Then let us do our job. It’s not us that’s the problem, hold the judicial system accountable, or more importantly, hold the offender or parent accountable. Something is wrong with the revolving door of justice if the same kids are committing the crimes. Obviously they aren’t scared or worried about the outcome or consequences of their actions. It’s ridiculous that everyday at school dismissals, the same kids and or gangs are fighting and basically trying to kill each other.

Here’s an idea. Have one of our elite units, start early to cover the school dismissals. Or hey, this may sound crazy, but bring back the school unit. This way the taxpayers will not be forced to wait til the so called students are finished with their daily shenanigans and the backlogs will go away.

Most officers I know bitch and whine about the job, we’ve all done it at one time or another, it’s part of the human condition and believe it or not, we’re human. Still, these same officers will be the first to drive lights and sirens to help someone in need. No matter how they’ve been messed with, this is the calling. Call it an inner drive, call it a moral purpose call it what you will, but know the end result. Know that no matter how much nonsense the average officer sees everyday , he or she, will rush to your aid when you call for help. Know that no matter how much you find fault with what we do, know that we come to your aid when you’re in need. We do it, we rush to your aid because it’s inside us plain and simple. It’s what we do. It’s who we are.

3/30/2007 06:04:00 AM  
Blogger SCC said...

Yes, we blog from just east of Hegewisch.

Seriously though? We draft articles for posting throughout the day in our heads and on paper. Then we meet online with our vast editoriual staff and figure out what's going to be on site the next day. We set the type and ink the rollers and get everything prepped for press time. Press time varies depending on what our start time is for midnights or what time we end up getting off of third watch or what time we time we stagger in from the bar next door. The "time posted" clock is adjustable and we move it around to keep the posting days separate.

3/30/2007 06:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's see, a fat slob beats up a female bartender half his size and weight. A bunch of other guys beat up some civilian(s) in a bar. And then they all expect to get away with it? They really believe that nothing will happen to them? Oh, and then we all get mad at the media for reporting it.

Gimme a freakin break. These people deserve to have their faces plastered all over the papers and TV screens. They violated the one rule, the most important rule, the rule that will get you fired, killed, or wreak havoc on any career. They violated the Stupid Rule. If you want to vent, vent against these morons. Everytime one of our morons gets into a jam, all we hear about is what a great guy he is, was, could have been, or maybe could have been if... Worse, if he is a POS, then everyone piles on- just like the media you hate.

The media will report on anything that they think will get them advertising dollars- it is not about ethics, morality, the public's right to know- it is about the kachingos.

If you are that stupid that you think you can get away with dumb stunts than you deserve everything that happens to you- including the embarassment to your family. If you are looking for sympathy, try the dictionary. It comes between shit and syphillis.

It is not the fault of the Bosses, the Mayor, the media, or anyone else. It is your own fault and you deserve what happens afterwards. I beleive the term is personal responsibility.

3/30/2007 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, we blog from just east of Hegewisch.

Seriously though? We draft articles for posting throughout the day in our heads and on paper. Then we meet online with our vast editoriual staff and figure out what's going to be on site the next day. We set the type and ink the rollers and get everything prepped for press time. Press time varies depending on what our start time is for midnights or what time we end up getting off of third watch or what time we time we stagger in from the bar next door. The "time posted" clock is adjustable and we move it around to keep the posting days separate.

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Nice, I like the tongue in cheek humor. :)

It's a great blog ...

3/30/2007 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TELL ME MORE about walter and saundrs. Any dirt on other news media people. I am intrigued.

3/30/2007 07:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The new gun program is done. (glock springfield) The department says no to these weapons. Training cost would be too high.

3/30/2007 07:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"He's been charged criminally, and we're moving to fire him, and if I could hit him with a baseball bat, I would"

I think Abbate is a piece of shit but I would also like to see this fat fuck swing a bat. Sure does display his fitness ribbons though.

"He refused to discuss a Sun-Times report in Thursday's editions that the altercation was allegedly sparked when one of the businessman made fun of one of the officers who was in the bar and crying about the recent death of his father."

What the fuck is up with this!!! He jumps in on the band wagon when the media reports anything alleged against a po with out doind the invesitgation himself and then when the media gives him a chance to shed light on the situation and show that this was not some savage beating or bar shooting he stays clear of it. Wayu to support the troops asshole.

Do not like DAley but can not wait for him to come back from his trip an fire your fat ass and then which you have a heart attack three months later from your fifth quadruple cheese burger and not be able to enjoy your little retirement and mobbed up condo in Flordia

3/30/2007 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Mr. Citizen,

Thank you...

3/30/2007 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3/30/2007 01:35:00 AM

Your Right! Be like me a DOGASS and i am happy being it the cpd brass don't support us as they are all clout and now daley will be back next week and he is 'MAD" oh no mad about what? his friend being indicted ala sanchez, or blago and stroger along with him being inder the federal microscope for all the havoc and theft they have cost the tax payers? yea thats the ticket!

3/30/2007 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoever you are sir, or maybe madam, THANK YOU!

3/30/2007 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Yet if the yuppies arent in control they cry whine and bitch."

Sounds to me like the grieving cop was the one not in control and crying like a little bitch. The yuppie called him on it. Who's the real bitch? Bitch.

3/30/2007 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are not too many jobs out there that will fire its employees for getting into a fight after working hours. WTF!!!!

3/30/2007 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone see chan 2 news at 10 last night? richie breczek former cpd sup was on talking about the scandal and blaming daley the coward! he richie you were a jagoff sup and now did'nt you beat the shit out of your wife years ago? he was saying so much shit about cpd try cbs2's website i believe the video is posted another jagoff ex boss!

3/30/2007 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was on my was to branch court this morning...late as usual. I was in such a depressed state of mind with all the scandals breaking and was for the first time in my 2.5 year career embarrassed to be wearing my uniform.
Why didn't I grab my usual baseball jersey this morning?
I was stopped at the stop light at Armitage/Western and someone next to me was trying to get my attention. I figured she wanted some directions....I rolled down my window and she said to me "I just wanted to say THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO and how much I appreciate you guys"....then she drove off. Tears started to form in my eyes as I fought them back then I heard horns blowing (I was in a daze and must not have noticed the light changed green)
I proceeded forward and a block down I saw an old man walking. He looked at me with a big smile and gave me the "thumbs up"....thats when I then lost it....tears were streaming down my face and I had to pull my car over. I sat in my car and cried my eyes out. I looked down and now it was 9:45!! Late to court again I guess!!.....But for the rest of my ride I kept my head up and sat up straight. I was PROUD to be wearing the CPD patch on my shoulder and you should be too!

3/30/2007 09:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 3/30/2007 04:22:00 AM

A friend of mine has had interactions with one of the "businessmen" and says he's one of the biggest smart asses to walk the earth. Always ready with a sarcastic quip or a pointed barb. To make fun of someone grieving over the loss of a parent is as low as it goes.

3/30/2007 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
On Wednesday while returning to my squad car I heard a car horn blowing.
I turned around and a young woman said to me from her open car window,
not everyone hates you.
I think you guys are great!
She then drove off.

3/29/2007 11:10:00 PM

Dude....you should have run her plate and stalked her!!

3/30/2007 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looking at the bright side....If these scandals were normal everday occurences, they probably wouldn't be such big news.

3/30/2007 10:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
If the new "cooperation" between the State's Attorney, and the CPD are going to result in more stripped P.O.'S due to force complaints, than stop working. Police work requires the use of force. And it is not done in a vacum, it is done in fractions of a second. So take the time you need to decide not to do work. Handle your jobs...
That's all folks.
Why place yourselef in a position where your going to have to use force, and than leave it up to a State's Attorney to decide weather or not to should be locked up, for doing Police Work.
Answer Dont Do The Work.
DONT MAKE STREET STOPS
DONT MAKE TRAFFIC STOPS
DONT MAKE ON VIEW ARRESTS.
DONT IMPOUND VEHICLES
DONT WRITE PARKING TICKETS.(you might get demoted)
NO MORE TRAFFIC CITATIONS
NO MORE A.N.O.V'S
NO MORE CTA CHECKS
NO MORE FOOT PATROL
NO MORE CURFEWS

-----------------------------------

Well said! I used to be the working police but I am starting to slow down. It doesn't pay to work any more. The dogass cop gets the same pay I do and doesn't have to worry about going through this shit.

Look at what those poor TRU coppers are having to go through with that shooting of the illegal piece of shit!

3/30/2007 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not saying the PO was in the right for whooping this guys ass, but come on, like that would not be the expected reaction!

I dont care your profession, you talk fighting words, you better be prepared to back em up. Not go crying like a pussy when you lose.

3/30/2007 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If someone asks you to beat the shit out of them, are you guilty of a crime when you give them what they ask for? I mean, really, a man is grieving for the loss of his father, he's crying about it, his friends are consoling him, they even took his gun away from him (indicating that this is serious grieving), and you call him a pussy and tell him to stop crying. Loosely translated, that means: "Please, sirs, beat the shit out of me and my friends." How can you be guilty of a crime or lose your job when you're invited? In the old days, those were called "fighting words".

3/30/2007 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's what frosts my ass. If true...some snot nosed over educated liberal yuppy useless fucks flip lip to a grieving cop in a bar. I'm old school so I say the yuppies got what they deserved.

3/30/2007 04:22:00 AM

__________________________________

I agree. Maybe Mr. Kellogg Business School should have kept his big mouth shut and now he's mad that he lost a fight that HE started.

"Are you gonna bark all day doggie or are you gonna bite." Mr. Blonde

3/30/2007 11:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i remeber when I was 19 and fresh back from iraq fighting in desert storm as a young Marine, seeing those flags "I support the U.S. troops" all over the place and you know it sort of made me feel good. Its nice to see you are appreciated, to hear it is one thing but to see it is another. I saw blocks and blocks with these flags. maybe we can do the same thing with us... have someone make up flags and sell them that say we support our chicago police... the profit made can go to the gold star families or to our memorial park.... speaking of which, that is another thing that frosts me! Daley is willing to shell out all this money for the 2016 olympics but gave zero toward our memorial park.... then you wonder why cops are doing stupid stuff, when you don't feel appreciated you do these things. Promotions are a joke, promotional exams-- joke, meritoreous--joke, contract negotiation with city--joke. leo memorial maybe this is something for you to look into......I would really like to see hom much we really are appreciated...

3/30/2007 11:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why aren't we seeing the JEFFERSON TAP beating Incident all over the Chicagoland TV news stations? Could it be because there are some CPD Supervisors involved in this one, not just a lowly CPD P.O.? Why are you holding it back, or not demanding access to it, CHICAGO News Media? Maybe sit on it long enough and it will go away under the carpet? Think about it troops. What favoritism does the Chicago News Media get from the High -Ups in the CPD and City Hall? Maybe a play, when needed, in exchange for when one of their own steps on it? Fair and Honest Reporting? HA! CPD Ethics? DOUBLE HA!

3/30/2007 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

although P.O. Abatte's behavior was inexcusable, think about this... Have you ever came close to snapping like he did? Was he really going into a Divorce after finding his wife with another man? If so, were his CPD Supervisors aware of this, yet still sent him out into the field, just to use him to bring them in arrests to make their stats look better? Although the Liberal news-media avoids it, was Abatte expected to do even more work on his Tact Team, as the CPD is short over 3,000 cops, and the Mayor and Pfat Pfill are trying to play a shell game with the real numbers of the manpower strength of the CPD? Is the big strong man-cop expected to do more of the dirty-work every day of making arrests of felons in the worst areas of the city than his tiny female counterpart, to make up for their inadequacies, for the same pay? If so, maybe some of the fancy-pants bosses, politicians, and news media people should try to walk a mile in his shoes, and see how long they last without blowing a cork.

3/30/2007 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was on my was to branch court this morning...late as usual. I was in such a depressed state of mind with all the scandals breaking and was for the first time in my 2.5 year career embarrassed to be wearing my uniform.
Why didn't I grab my usual baseball jersey this morning?
I was stopped at the stop light at Armitage/Western and someone next to me was trying to get my attention. I figured she wanted some directions....I rolled down my window and she said to me "I just wanted to say THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO and how much I appreciate you guys"....then she drove off. Tears started to form in my eyes as I fought them back then I heard horns blowing (I was in a daze and must not have noticed the light changed green)
I proceeded forward and a block down I saw an old man walking. He looked at me with a big smile and gave me the "thumbs up"....thats when I then lost it....tears were streaming down my face and I had to pull my car over. I sat in my car and cried my eyes out. I looked down and now it was 9:45!! Late to court again I guess!!.....But for the rest of my ride I kept my head up and sat up straight. I was PROUD to be wearing the CPD patch on my shoulder and you should be too!
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THIS GUY DESERVES AN ASS-BEATING! 2.5 YEARS ON JOB AND HE'S CRYING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH?? I'M EMBARRASSED 2 WEAR A UNIFORM BECAUSE OF THIS GUY!!

3/30/2007 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dumb-ass bosses should have got the guy some help before he went off. Failure on Supervisors part.

3/30/2007 11:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

On Wednesday while returning to my squad car I heard a car horn blowing.
I turned around and a young woman said to me from her open car window,
not everyone hates you.
I think you guys are great!
She then drove off.

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page 55 in Cronin's Book!!!!

3/30/2007 11:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Yet if the yuppies arent in control they cry whine and bitch."

Sounds to me like the grieving cop was the one not in control and crying like a little bitch. The yuppie called him on it. Who's the real bitch? Bitch.

3/30/2007 09:08:00 AM

Dude! I hope you lose a parent that your very close to right before the holidays and lets see how you handle it. If you don't feel the slightist remorse for loosing a parent that you love, then you are a spinless jag.

3/30/2007 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ain't this something! Our supt. telling the nation how he is "cracking down" on police brutality then goes on WGN-AM radio which is heard nationwide and wants to beat asswipe with a baseball bat! Did you hear that U.S. Olympic Committee? Then idiot girl "MONIQUE BOND" (who should have had braces 50 yrs. ago when she was a teenager) attempts to cover up for tubby who made an ass of himself with his stupid comment and in turn made lil mayor look like an ass----------which is not too hard to do. Quick Peter Karl. Let's talk about caps. Another fucking MORON! HELLO LOS ANGELES! Chicago would be a disgrace to the Olympics.

3/30/2007 11:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Answer Dont Do The Work.
DONT MAKE STREET STOPS
DONT MAKE TRAFFIC STOPS
DONT MAKE ON VIEW ARRESTS....blah, blah, blah..."

In other words take the spot of the man that *would* do the work and collect something for nothing like a fucking welfare queen.

Newsflash: your fellow officers are on to the fact that it takes two of them to make up for an assclown like you.

3/30/2007 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO THE FIRE DEPT:

Thanks for your recent racial w/that boss Walsh. Its temporarily taking the heat off of us!
We need all the help we can get. Is there anyway u guys can have a keg party?

3/30/2007 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Years ago at the Skokie courthouse, a local tv reporter was found guilty of shoplifting. He got supervision and was barred from going back to the store. His defense was that he was doing background for a story. He failed to bring in his assignment editor to back up his story. oops! Check the records, there has to be a paper trail on this somewhere.

3/30/2007 12:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO 3/30/2007 06:04:00 AM

very well said.

3/30/2007 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He looked at me with a big smile and gave me the "thumbs up"....thats when I then lost it....tears were streaming down my face and I had to pull my car over...

Then some guy passed by and said "quit crying like a little bitch" and I exited my vehicle and proceeded to beat the ever living shit out of him. I left him lying in a pool of his own blood and piss and proceeded to court. But for the rest of my ride I kept my head up and sat up straight. I was PROUD to be wearing the CPD patch on my shoulder and you should be too!

3/30/2007 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you hear the 025th District Copper rip into Cline yesterday on W.L.S. talk radio , Roe Conn ?. He put Cline on the defensive like I have never heard before. Everytime Cline tried to defend his decisions, this guy came back with great rebuttals and did not back down . Finally they cut him off when Cline was looking like an idiot. If this was a heavyweight fight it would have been stopped. Winner by T.K.O. is the 025th District Copper. Thank you , you made us proud....

3/30/2007 12:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, you could of stalked that broad that honked at you! I guess the police can still do that, right Ricky Guerrero?!

3/30/2007 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was a weather or sports guy that used to troll Boystown for he/she prostitutes? Anyone remember?

3/30/2007 12:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you make fun of a person mourning the loss of a friend or family member and then you gey your ass kicked...... seems very fair to me. Bet most juries, even Cook County juries, would have very little sympathy for these junky yuppies. They wanted to be bullying tough guys and they lost. Next tiem drive your bmw's out to the burbs to drink.

3/30/2007 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Used to be a F police with no pull, lots of promises and the true desire to learn and do this job right (how unfortunate). Married a lawyer, a great guy, and not the Po anymore (how fortunate) I truly enjoy seeing the clout-intoxicated morons make careless mistakes take a dive, and the good guys like my ex-partner go on with their jobs and everyday normal lives quietly, unnoticed.

3/30/2007 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sent to Roe Conn today:

TO: Mr. Roe Conn:
FROM: A Chicago Police Officer
SUBJECT: Pick Your Conspiracy: Blue Wall of Silence or Media Misinformation Frenzy?

It is with tongue in cheek that the format of this letter mimics the CPD To/From report (entertaining myself, I guess). Let me preface the body of this letter by stating that if you have clarified, corrected or reversed your position on the following subject, then disregard.

A few days ago when the 025 Dist. illegal handicapped parking/lot blocking issue was being discussed by yourself and Ron Magers you (rhetorically) asked some important questions. Such as why, at a time of such public/press scrutiny, would a group of officers/supervisors band together and do something guaranteed to garner further negative publicity? You also seemed aghast that real, honest cops would want to go an extra mile for such a jag (my term) as Abate. These were valid probing questions and your sense of incredulity was that little voice of the healthy skeptic telling you all was not as it appeared. I give you much credit for that. It was with frustration that I couldn’t get through on the phone to your show as Mr. Magers was able to further the unsubstantiated premise, stated as a proven assumption on which further discussion was based, that this was a concerted effort by police officers to deny the press access to the accused. I wouldn’t have been ecstatic but could have lived with merely slanting the story but Mr. Magers made the mistake of restating this assumption as a given numerous times. Never was there a caveat that “This smacks of…”, “Could this be…”, “Are we seeing a ….”, so a claim of editorializing is unacceptable.

I am sure by now you have heard and considered the following facts/possibilities:
Writing a (legitimate) ticket or blocking a police-only parking lot denied the press only IF they are doing some sort of new ‘drive-by’ filming from their vans.
The city recently began a program of towing on duty squad cars for parking in handicapped spaces.
The hypocrisy of the media doing exposes on abuse of handicapped parking. I believe one ran on WMAQ during the same newscast featuring the story of their outrage at not being allowed to trample the rights of the handicapped.
The 025 Watch Cmdr. should and was only trying to keep order in his parking lot. A lot where prisoners are brought in for court by county officers, covert vehicles park, undercover officers and confidential informants frequent (no bat cave-like secret tunnel). And bottom line is it IS a police parking only lot and access to the press is a favor given when the Watch Commander chooses to do so.
An exempt rank commander wouldn’t sacrifice his career like this even if he was friends with the accused.
It was the judge that ordered knucklehead to be taken out a different door.
As high profile cases are sometimes handled this way, any reporter worth his salt would have found out where their subject was exiting. It is unfortunate that their usual wiliness deserted all of them at the same time.

Your doubt and sense of disbelief that good Chicago Police Officers would want to protect this F*%*NUT was right. And I would like to think Mr. Magers merely got swept up in the excitement of the moment as his statements were off the cuff and not a written editorial piece. But huge damage was done. This whole situation was, or rather should have remained, just another episode in the ongoing pissing match between press and police (a whole ‘nuther subject). Sometimes we write them, sometimes we give them a play. Choosing to write them in this situation may have been bad timing but that bad timing hardly warrants the irresponsibility and damage of claiming a police conspiracy and using it as a platform for further discussion thus leading listeners to believe it is being reported as unbiased fact. If I have swayed you at all, at least about the method that was used when you discussed this subject on your show, I hope you will address it on your show. I don’t think the damage can be undone-this event has already gelled in the public’s mind forever as a police conspiracy but it would at least prove the character you usually show.

I am aware of your pro-police stance and all the work you have done on behalf of the Gold Star Families and thank you. It is because of those things and your consistent objectivity that I take the time to write. Any lesser a supporter would have me on the blogs calling for a boycott, not composing this long-winded missive. I know you are an acquaintance of Superintendent Cline and had him on your show yesterday. Due to my military experience, I am uncomfortable questioning his decision but as this does not involve a lawful order given on duty, I believe a certain amount of dissent is acceptable. I disagree with his handling of this situation, finding it prematurely reactionary and based on media-supplied suppositions, unproven at the time. It is possible that he had real information that the demoted Watch Commander was actively engaging in press censorship. If that comes to light, then I withdraw my objections. Let it be noted that I am well aware of the constraints he operates under due to political ramifications and believe he normally tries to do what is best for the department as a whole. I certainly wouldn‘t want to be in his shoes! Consider having someone from the rank and file on your show some time, not on the phone but live, in-person to get another perspective.
Sincerely,
"Hunter"
Chicago Police Officer

3/30/2007 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
On Wednesday while returning to my squad car I heard a car horn blowing.
I turned around and a young woman said to me from her open car window,
not everyone hates you.
I think you guys are great!
She then drove off.

3/29/2007 11:10:00 PM

Dude....you should have run her plate and stalked her!!

3/30/2007 09:54:00 AM

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stalking is one the easiest ways to become an exempt

3/30/2007 01:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the young Officer from he Jefferson Tavern incident who lost his father.

I am 59 years old, I lost my father 21 years ago as well as my bother John (Ret.CPD) three years ago. I still feel it and always will. The story is that you were emmotional. So What if you were. You'll feel this emotion the rest of your life and it is nothing to be ashamed of. Your Father was the anchor in your life, this was your hero. My father was the greatest man to ever walk the face of the earth, My Brother John was the second. I miss them today, and the pain is still there. You can thank your lucky stars that you were with true friends who were there to protect you. As for the "business men" they didn't get what they deserved to the fullest extent. I would have taken a strong hand to them myself.

I know you have family and friends that will see you through the tough times but if you feel a need to talk or an ear for listening feel free to give me a call but remember, family and friends are what count most in this life.

Barrett J. Moran, Jr.
Detective, Area 3

3/30/2007 01:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree that fat Phil couldn't get his arms together to swing a bat. His comment is also border -line assault. He should get in the ring with Abbote at the next super-cop battle and the winner keeps his job!

3/30/2007 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Drunken cops crying in bars, gee thats manly.

3/30/2007 01:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Mr Citizen,

A sincere thank you for your kind words and support. Its because of people like you that we go out there and the HUGE MAJORITY do the RIGHT THING day in and day out.

3/30/2007 01:37:00 PM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

....thats when I then lost it....tears were streaming down my face and I had to pull my car over. I sat in my car and cried my eyes out.
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Lucky no coke-upped brokers (or peon runners posing as big shot brokers) saw that and gave you shit! Same goes for anonymous blog trolls posing as the police that claim it's unmanly to cry upon the death of ones father.

3/30/2007 01:39:00 PM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

....thats when I then lost it....tears were streaming down my face and I had to pull my car over. I sat in my car and cried my eyes out.
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OOPS! meant to also say your words were inspiring. Good to see another who is proud of our calling.

3/30/2007 01:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had an experience close to 3/29/2007 11:10:00 PM's. While getting coffee downtown in 001 a M/2 and his wife bought my coffee and thanked me for being a public servant and to ignore the vocal police haters in chicago.

She stated that you will always have bad apples that make everyone wearing a uniform look bad (para-phraseing a bit).

3/30/2007 01:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why was it that the business men who were beat at the Jefferson Bar refused medical treatment at the time -- but when they heard it was off duty cops involved, and money to be made, then they went to the hospital to be treated. Since when does a broken nose require facial reconstruction.The business men knew they screwed up and left with their tails between their legs. But when there was $$$$ to be made, they resurfaced.

3/30/2007 02:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As the Police I can say I am truly disgusted with the actions of Abbate. I do not think that he deserves any special considerations. He is a PUNK! As for being a member of the CPD, I believe that this is truly a great job and I am Proud to say I am the Police. No matter what profession, there will always be someone that lives outside the rules.

Keep Your Heads UP. Do Your Job. Remember that John Q Public is always watching and the media just waiting for us to make a mistake.

Stay Safe Boys and Girls and Be Proud to be part of this Department.

3/30/2007 02:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: 09:28 AM and everyone else

"Anyone see chan 2 news at 10 last night? richie breczek former cpd sup was on talking about the scandal and blaming daley the coward! he richie you were a jagoff sup and now did'nt you beat the shit out of your wife years ago? he was saying so much shit about cpd try cbs2's website i believe the video is posted another jagoff ex boss!

3/30/2007 09:28:00 AM"

This guy was known as the "Out-Patient" and a real stroke on MOST police things but not everything.

He is the one who made us stop being able shotguns in distict patrol cars. Reason, too much liabiltiy as it is cheaper to bury a cop than to defend one even a good shooting.

One thing he did right was to NOT give Curtis Slewa and the Guardian Angels any type of a city charter or recognition. To have given that bunch of goofs any assistance would have opened the city up to a lot of liability. Keep that on mind when untrained citizens want to volunteer for anything.

If you ever have Brezcek in court representing one of your arrestees he has a favorite trick. He will have the defendent,now bathed, shaved and in looking like a human being in the court audience and want you to pick him out. Have the mug-shots with you when you go to court. When he asked me to pick out a serious DUI I locked up 18 months previously and rearrested on a warrant I replied, "That old gag!" The judge stopped this foolishness and ordered the defendent to stand up.

3/30/2007 02:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FROM: THE GREAT KARNAK
TO: THE BROTHERS IN BLUE
SUBJECT: PREDICTION OF FLYIN SUP
1. On Tuesday king richie arrives in the U.S.of A.
2. By Friday kline is history.
3. The odds have Molloy as the acting. That is all.

3/30/2007 02:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This letter is very nice and it's truly appreciated. Think of how many times you are out there trying to enforce the laws, saving someone from getting shot by stopping a guy with a gun. Think of how many times you have to go in on a domestic to stop a woman or child from getting the shit beat out of them. Think about how many times people don't even care enough to say thank you when it's all said and done.

3/30/2007 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you citizens for standing behind the CPD and realizing we are not ALL like the slanted news media reports. Thank You working police for doing just that -- working, doing your jobs and keeping the citizens of Chicago safe. signed, Retired CPD

3/30/2007 03:11:00 PM  
Anonymous 014 and no kudos said...

was on my was to branch court this morning...late as usual. I was in such a depressed state of mind with all the scandals breaking and was for the first time in my 2.5 year career embarrassed to be wearing my uniform.
Why didn't I grab my usual baseball jersey this morning?
I was stopped at the stop light at Armitage/Western and someone next to me was trying to get my attention. I figured she wanted some directions....I rolled down my window and she said to me "I just wanted to say THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO and how much I appreciate you guys"....then she drove off. Tears started to form in my eyes as I fought them back then I heard horns blowing (I was in a daze and must not have noticed the light changed green)
I proceeded forward and a block down I saw an old man walking. He looked at me with a big smile and gave me the "thumbs up"....thats when I then lost it....tears were streaming down my face and I had to pull my car over. I sat in my car and cried my eyes out. I looked down and now it was 9:45!! Late to court again I guess!!.....But for the rest of my ride I kept my head up and sat up straight. I was PROUD to be wearing the CPD patch on my shoulder and you should be too!

3/30/2007 09:46:00 AM

That is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever read in my life! I've worked in 014 for over 10 years and have yet to have ANYONE say anything nice to me while I've been in uniform, and yet you have two strangers give a "pat on the back" on your way to court? I ain't buying it. Nice sentiments and all, but it's a fucking fairy tale for sure!

3/30/2007 04:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to say thank you to this guy, you don't get too many it seems and even fewer in the Ghetto. I have to say though, that I've gotten a mix of dirty looks from people who know or managed to figure out that I'm a cop, but I've also gotten some pretty positive feedback, or at least a lot of bad mouthing the media, which is good enough for me. For the media who reads this site, maybe you should take a page from Ernie Pyle......if you even know who that is. He was a great journalist, he stayed on the front lines with GI's during WWII, lived like they did, say and reported what they did, both good and bad, officers and enlisted, but he had the respect of the troops because he was fair and ACCURATE in his reporting. We have several class acts in this Dept, and like every other organization, we too, unfortunately get our share of mopes. From what I've seen of the media ranks, you have an overabundance of mopes and few (there are some) class acts. I agree with several of the posters here that you should do ride alongs, but they'll never send you to a fast district with a working car, you might get a fast district, but not a fast car. If you do decide to ride along, do it more than once, twice, or even three times, do it in as many different districts as you can as often as you can........if you don't get a story from that then you're blind. Oh, yeah, and to the numbnuts trying to dime SCC out on his location, IAD called, they want their snitch back.

3/30/2007 04:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was on my was to branch court this morning...late as usual. I was in such a depressed state of mind with all the scandals breaking and was for the first time in my 2.5 year career embarrassed to be wearing my uniform.
Why didn't I grab my usual baseball jersey this morning?
I was stopped at the stop light at Armitage/Western and someone next to me was trying to get my attention. I figured she wanted some directions....I rolled down my window and she said to me "I just wanted to say THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO and how much I appreciate you guys"....then she drove off. Tears started to form in my eyes as I fought them back then I heard horns blowing (I was in a daze and must not have noticed the light changed green)
I proceeded forward and a block down I saw an old man walking. He looked at me with a big smile and gave me the "thumbs up"....thats when I then lost it....tears were streaming down my face and I had to pull my car over. I sat in my car and cried my eyes out. I looked down and now it was 9:45!! Late to court again I guess!!.....But for the rest of my ride I kept my head up and sat up straight. I was PROUD to be wearing the CPD patch on my shoulder and you should be too!
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are u kidding me??? This guy has to be from 023!!! Pulling over to cry???

3/30/2007 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
He looked at me with a big smile and gave me the "thumbs up"....thats when I then lost it....tears were streaming down my face and I had to pull my car over...

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Please do yourself a favor and quit this job. You may start blubbering at the wrong moment and get fucked up.

Perhaps you can be a security guard at Harpo Studios.

3/30/2007 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cline swinging a bat.

That was enough to make me piss myself.

When was the last time he did anything related to physical fitness or sports?

Perhaps a hot dog eating contest.

Blaaarg!!

3/30/2007 05:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can better believe if I was on the jury for this whole Jefferson Tap incident, the minute I heard about how this day trader called him a pussy for crying at the loss of his father..... not guilty.

You want to talk the talk, you best be able to walk the walk.

3/30/2007 05:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was on my was to branch court this morning...late as usual. I was in such a depressed state of mind with all the scandals breaking and was for the first time in my 2.5 year career embarrassed to be wearing my uniform.
Why didn't I grab my usual baseball jersey this morning?
I was stopped at the stop light at Armitage/Western and someone next to me was trying to get my attention. I figured she wanted some directions....I rolled down my window and she said to me "I just wanted to say THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO and how much I appreciate you guys"....then she drove off. Tears started to form in my eyes as I fought them back then I heard horns blowing (I was in a daze and must not have noticed the light changed green)
I proceeded forward and a block down I saw an old man walking. He looked at me with a big smile and gave me the "thumbs up"....thats when I then lost it....tears were streaming down my face and I had to pull my car over. I sat in my car and cried my eyes out. I looked down and now it was 9:45!! Late to court again I guess!!.....But for the rest of my ride I kept my head up and sat up straight. I was PROUD to be wearing the CPD patch on my shoulder and you should be too!
____________________________
Thanks for sharing your story, I felt the same way these past days and your story really lightened up my day. I actually got teary eyed reading it. Every police officer should look at the positive experiences that occur like the one above....BE SAFE!

3/30/2007 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds to me like the grieving cop was the one not in control and crying like a little bitch. The yuppie called him on it. Who's the real bitch? Bitch.

I tell you what ... you will remember this when your parents go asshole. Or dont you know who your parents are. The yuppy opened his mouth and got his ass kicked. I would of done the exact same thing.

3/30/2007 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A friend of mine has had interactions with one of the "businessmen" and says he's one of the biggest smart asses to walk the earth


Post his info so more of us can go kick his ass.

3/30/2007 05:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The story is that you were emmotional. So What if you were. You'll feel this emotion the rest of your life and it is nothing to be ashamed of. ... You can thank your lucky stars that you were with true friends who were there to protect you. As for the "business men" they didn't get what they deserved to the fullest extent. I would have taken a strong hand to them myself.

Barrett J. Moran, Jr.
Detective, Area 3"
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So it was okay to kick somebody's ass because he missed his daddy? WTF?!

He was lucky that he had friends there to protect him? Protect him from WHAT? Being called a pussy? Those WORDS must have been like they were killing his father all over again, huh, Moran?

Are you sure you're not Jesse Jackson?

His wittle fucking feelings being hurt and the subsequent jag offery that took place after is going to keep the police on the news for the forseeable future.

Next time maybe he should take his act to down around 79th and Yates. They'll understand his bullshit.

I'm glad you're 59 y.o., Moran. Must mean retirement is just around the corner...

3/30/2007 05:36:00 PM  
Blogger leomemorial said...

11:22am

are you talking about something similiar to the old military flags that you would hang horizontally? we had those hanging for my uncles...

3/30/2007 05:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just recently reached 15 years on the job. The last few years have been tough with all the B.S.being thrown at us. I actually feel sorry for the Sergeants these days with all the nonsense they have to keep track of. There are some days that seem to never end and it really takes its toll on many who work a busy 3rd watch. I honestly can't wait until I reach my 20th year and call it a career at 50. I plan on looking for something else to do and enjoy the freedom of having the option of living anywhere else but Chicago.

3/30/2007 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF!!!! If you cry like a baby when they compliment you what do you do when they're MF'ing you!! That's a bullshit story, and a bad one at that.

3/30/2007 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No hospital treatment for the "businseemen victims?"

Maybe gotta wait till the coke is outta the system?

3/30/2007 06:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In response to the officer who ask Why some officers go to call back and others get fired. I'm from the old school (yellow paper) its all about connections kid. I can safely say your members of exempt rank are handpicked by Mayor Daley the dept has no criteria for rendering verdicts. One police officer can be fired for a sustained charge of brutality against a civilian yet others are put back on the street. During my years I have observed certain officers are dismissed for unlawful discharging of their weapon yet others go right back to work . You get the picture kid Understand this all of the officers that get minimal time have one thing in common, they are connected. in closing THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPT IS NEITHER IMPARTIAL FAIR NOR HONEST. stay safe kid

3/30/2007 06:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cline says he is sickened about the misconduct of these officers. Well you suck ass two face. How did you feel about Commander Risley and his cover up of Miedzianowski who knowingly planted evidence on ATF agents. Let me get this right you fat boy demoted a caption for minor bs, However you were Miedzianowski boss, Risley was IAD Commander and Risleys brother was Miedzianowski sgt. How about this big boy you had full knowledge but swept it under the rug. you conducted your self in an inappropriate way, fire your corrupt ass

3/30/2007 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry guys the story about officer P and him crying about the dad was made up to help cover the connected gun team , don't believe it news affairs came up with that story as is no sound with the tape, after viewing the tape. attempting damage control. You guys kill me, come on

3/30/2007 06:34:00 PM  
Blogger scumdog0331 said...

Hey, I'm a lawyer and I love the Chicago Cops...and money...

3/30/2007 06:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello! all the officers and sgt involved tavern incident are connected gun team. Truth be told the crying is only for spin control to minimize what they did. 10-4, silly boys

3/30/2007 07:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, can you please help everyone understand, that Tony Abatte was not on the Tact team in 020.

The guy comes to 020 from 011 on a IOD, he clears from the IOD for three weeks and goes back on IOD as a re-occurence and comes back from that and works on the watch.

The news said he was on the Tact team and no one knows how they got to that assumption.

Thank you for clearing the air and posting the truth, as well as giving all of us the blog. It has been the best thing since sliced bread and capital punishment.

THANK YOU

3/30/2007 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No wonder everyone's fed up with CPD. Every other comment is about a cop crying like a little girl. Grow up, MEN. Quit crying about the media too, it makes you all look like a bunch of 1st graders.

And to those who feels so good by Joe Citizen giving them a thumbs up: perhaps if you believed in yourselves a little more you wouldn't need reinforment from the general public. I'm beginning to think that CPD is a bunch of cry babies! Grow up already!

3/30/2007 07:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey..got a ticket for parking in an handicapped spot..I figure I'm just as special as the media guys so I mailing my ticket to Monique for her to "take care of it and nullify it.

3/30/2007 08:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then some guy passed by and said "quit crying like a little bitch" and I exited my vehicle and proceeded to beat the ever living shit out of him. I left him lying in a pool of his own blood and piss and proceeded to court. But for the rest of my ride I kept my head up and sat up straight. I was PROUD to be wearing the CPD patch on my shoulder and you should be too!

3/30/2007 12:32:00 PM

who let abbate on this blog?

3/30/2007 08:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You can better believe if I was on the jury for this whole Jefferson Tap incident, the minute I heard about how this day trader called him a pussy for crying at the loss of his father..... not guilty."

You can better believe this is some Department motivated spin job to protect these clout Babies. If you are truly that ignorant not to see that, I suggest you have a glass stomach installed so you can see where you're going...

3/30/2007 08:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

are u kidding me??? This guy has to be from 023!!! Pulling over to cry???

3/30/2007 04:59:00 PM

hello salty balls!

3/30/2007 08:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF!!!! If you cry like a baby when they compliment you what do you do when they're MF'ing you!! That's a bullshit story, and a bad one at that.

3/30/2007 05:57:00 PM
jHEY! just who the FUCK do you think you are to call someone out like that!? For your info I know the guy personally (he's a new member to the club) and he told me the story right after it happend! IT'S NOT BULLSHIT! Ill tell you what is... you hiding behind anonymous and calling one of MY brothers out! But if you want to settle this come on down to the AKMC clubhouse on west lake st. and ask for me... Greg "socketwrench" lyles. Ill personally sew your ass to your face!

AKMC FOR LIFE!

3/30/2007 08:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I too love this site just to get the other side of the story. I am not the police, but come from a police family. You guys have my respect if you do not have your bosses respect. Thanks for the great job you do. Maybe we all should give the next copper we see a thumbs up.

3/30/2007 09:14:00 PM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

5:36 PM

Barry Moran put down his name. You've got my name and eMail address: cpdfop7@yahoo.com

Now just who the fuck might you be, you "anonymous" cowardly cocksucker?

P.S.: Barry
You and John (R.I.P.) paid your dues a long time ago. Retirement is the greatest.

3/30/2007 09:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a Chicago Police officer with over 18 years and I am NOT embarrassed by the tape of Abatte beating the barmaid ~ what I am embarrassed & ashamed of is that fat slob of a superintendent making a statement that he would like to take a baseball bat to Abatte...he should be ashamed of himself, his appearance and his stupid comments. Time to step down fatty!

3/30/2007 10:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i work in 005 where the moral is the lowest of the low. department moral is at an all time low and the city believe it or not is brainstorming to find how to rise it at the lowest price possible. this is not neccessarily a bad thing because when this all blows over the main thing is going to be how to get the trust of lowly patrolman back. hopfully that will be in the form of a positive contact which is coming up shortly. weather the storm and come out swinging.

3/30/2007 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ps. scc, the service you provide is worth more than the union dues that i pay monthly. you would be a rich man or men in a previous time period. i appreciate this... thank you. an old timer

3/30/2007 11:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 09:14
Part of your oath of office is " I will keep my private life unsullied"

That allows the Dept to get involved in what you do in your off duty time

Plus frankly the Lien Clean man and the UPs driver arent allowed to arm themselves on their days off

I have no problem with the Dept meddling in my private life.

Im expected to conform to a higher standard than the wharehouseman in a factory and so are you.

Im proud of that obligation

3/31/2007 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and Brezyzck is a total jag off
he looks like hes wearing undertakers make up and never looks at a copper in court
Fuck that disgraceful cheap penny ante philandering unfaithful thief

3/31/2007 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was on my was to branch court this morning...late as usual. I was in such a depressed state of mind with all the scandals breaking and was for the first time in my 2.5 year career embarrassed to be wearing my uniform.
Why didn't I grab my usual baseball jersey this morning?
I was stopped at the stop light at Armitage/Western and someone next to me was trying to get my attention. I figured she wanted some directions....I rolled down my window and she said to me "I just wanted to say THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO and how much I appreciate you guys"....then she drove off. Tears started to form in my eyes as I fought them back then I heard horns blowing (I was in a daze and must not have noticed the light changed green)
I proceeded forward and a block down I saw an old man walking. He looked at me with a big smile and gave me the "thumbs up"....thats when I then lost it....tears were streaming down my face and I had to pull my car over. I sat in my car and cried my eyes out. I looked down and now it was 9:45!! Late to court again I guess!!.....But for the rest of my ride I kept my head up and sat up straight. I was PROUD to be wearing the CPD patch on my shoulder and you should be too!
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THANK YOU FOR THAT, IT REMINDS ME WHY I EVER JOINED THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT.

3/31/2007 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF!!!! If you cry like a baby when they compliment you what do you do when they're MF'ing you!! That's a bullshit story, and a bad one at that.
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HEY ASSHAT WHY WOULD SOMEONE MAKE UP A STORY LIKE THAT???....BECAUSE IT DOESN'T END WITH A SCANDAL? BECAUSE HE DIDN'T JUMP OUT OF THE CAR AND BEAT THEM? BECAUSE NO ONE GOT INDICTED? WOULD THAT MAKE IT MORE BELIEVABLE?
THAT STORY INSPIRED MANY OF US-INCLUDING ME SO F*CK OFF!

3/31/2007 12:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was on my was to branch court this morning...late as usual. I was in such a depressed state of mind with all the scandals breaking and was for the first time in my 2.5 year career embarrassed to be wearing my uniform.
Why didn't I grab my usual baseball jersey this morning?
I was stopped at the stop light at Armitage/Western and someone next to me was trying to get my attention. I figured she wanted some directions....I rolled down my window and she said to me "I just wanted to say THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO and how much I appreciate you guys"....then she drove off. Tears started to form in my eyes as I fought them back then I heard horns blowing (I was in a daze and must not have noticed the light changed green)
I proceeded forward and a block down I saw an old man walking. He looked at me with a big smile and gave me the "thumbs up"....thats when I then lost it....tears were streaming down my face and I had to pull my car over. I sat in my car and cried my eyes out. I looked down and now it was 9:45!! Late to court again I guess!!.....But for the rest of my ride I kept my head up and sat up straight. I was PROUD to be wearing the CPD patch on my shoulder and you should be too!
_________________________________
I have been a Captain in the CPD for many years now and I must say that the story above was the best I have ever read on here. Inspiring.

3/31/2007 01:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF!!!! If you cry like a baby when they compliment you what do you do when they're MF'ing you!! That's a bullshit story, and a bad one at that.
___________________________________
Your beef isn't with this story and you know it's not a bullshit story either......If you have a problem with the AKMC then bring it....we will see who will cry then! Our brother was just sharing his positive experience with everyone and you have to try and add your negative comments. You don't know the meaning of BROTHERHOOD. You should be embarrassed to be CPD!!

3/31/2007 01:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

was on my was to branch court this morning...late as usual. I was in such a depressed state of mind with all the scandals breaking and was for the first time in my 2.5 year career embarrassed to be wearing my uniform.
Why didn't I grab my usual baseball jersey this morning?
I was stopped at the stop light at Armitage/Western and someone next to me was trying to get my attention. I figured she wanted some directions....I rolled down my window and she said to me "I just wanted to say THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO and how much I appreciate you guys"....then she drove off. Tears started to form in my eyes as I fought them back then I heard horns blowing (I was in a daze and must not have noticed the light changed green)
I proceeded forward and a block down I saw an old man walking. He looked at me with a big smile and gave me the "thumbs up"....thats when I then lost it....tears were streaming down my face and I had to pull my car over. I sat in my car and cried my eyes out. I looked down and now it was 9:45!! Late to court again I guess!!.....But for the rest of my ride I kept my head up and sat up straight. I was PROUD to be wearing the CPD patch on my shoulder and you should be too!
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Thanks, I needed to hear that. Everyone Be Safe and God Bless.

3/31/2007 01:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

was on my was to branch court this morning...late as usual. I was in such a depressed state of mind with all the scandals breaking and was for the first time in my 2.5 year career embarrassed to be wearing my uniform.
Why didn't I grab my usual baseball jersey this morning?
I was stopped at the stop light at Armitage/Western and someone next to me was trying to get my attention. I figured she wanted some directions....I rolled down my window and she said to me "I just wanted to say THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO and how much I appreciate you guys"....then she drove off. Tears started to form in my eyes as I fought them back then I heard horns blowing (I was in a daze and must not have noticed the light changed green)
I proceeded forward and a block down I saw an old man walking. He looked at me with a big smile and gave me the "thumbs up"....thats when I then lost it....tears were streaming down my face and I had to pull my car over. I sat in my car and cried my eyes out. I looked down and now it was 9:45!! Late to court again I guess!!.....But for the rest of my ride I kept my head up and sat up straight. I was PROUD to be wearing the CPD patch on my shoulder and you should be too!
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Thats a great story -that should be on the front page of the Sun-Times and Tribune.

3/31/2007 01:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,

It's been a while since you did a spot for good supervisors hasn't it? How about another one of those so everyone knows where to go to work for a good boss. Current ones only. Some of the others mentioned before are long gone.

3/31/2007 01:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is my opinion (4550), there is good and bad in all people. The guy who beat the bar tender, no excuse, you need to go straight to jail. Obviously not the first woman you hit but I will bet it will the last. Cowards like that make our job "impossible."

"Impossible," is being a police officer in the face of odds that are stacked against you. This much is true.

Impossible is also dealing with promotion exams that take six or seven months to score. Impossible is watching the incompetant lead the bold.

3/31/2007 02:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any truth to the K9 rumor? I heard a new test is comimg.......

3/31/2007 03:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Barry Moran put down his name. You've got my name and eMail address: cpdfop7@yahoo.com

Now just who the fuck might you be, you "anonymous" cowardly cocksucker?
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I'm citizen Chris Robinson, you goddamned hooplehead thug.

chrislrob@gmail.com.

If you write me a private email with a bunch of mean words that make me all emotional, I only hope my citizen "brothers" are there to back my play as I cyberpunch you in your dimwitted fucking forehead.

But do me a favor: don't offer to arrange to meet me somewhere--I'm sure your gun and badge and radio that you can use to call lots of other people with guns and badges trumps my unarmed desire to slap sparks from your ass, bully boy.

I know nothing about you, but you sure sound like a disgrace to the uniform. Maybe you should take it off.

3/31/2007 07:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Moral in the 025th District on the second watch is at an all time low. They sent the goofball Charlie Williams out to address the 2nd watch roll call and as expected, he made things even worse. He actually had the gall to state that the media is our friend, that we should embrace them. He also said that they should be given free access to our parking lot whenever they want, that we have nothing to hide back there. I guess he doesn't know that we have undercover cars parked back there or undercover Officers walking back there all the time, not to mention our personal cars.

I guess station house security is not very important to ole Charlie. I guess he never heard of terrorists posing as journalists. Perhaps he needs to do a little research about the history of the current conflict we are involved in overseas. Then he might learn that some of the terrorists favorite tactics are car bombs in parking lots or suicide bombers posing as news reporters.

I wonder if ole Charlie is going to foot the legal bill the next time we bring a combative prisoner in the backdoor and he's fighting us all the way while we are using the neccessary force to subdue him, all of which is being filmed by the news crew who now have access to anything,anywhere because ole Charlie says they are our friend and can go wherever they want to?

I was originally horrified as I watched that tape of Abatte beating that woman bartender. Then my horror was replaced by disgust, embarrassment and anger at what he did to not only her, but the rest of us as well. I didn't think that I would ever see anything that would make me feel that way again. But something has. It's the exempts response to this all of this, particularly their response to the non-event that happened in 025 the other day, the media circus, at Abatte's court appearance. As far as I'm concerned,Cline and Williams should either resign or be fired. They are too far out of touch with reality and what we do at the District level, nor do they care. They have demonstrated time and time again that they cannot be trusted and do not have the Police Officers best interest at heart. I is time for them as well as others to go before they do more damage than they already have.

I love being a Chicago Police Officer. I waited a long time to get on what I considered the finest Police Department anywhere. When I was swore in and became part of that great organization, I couldn't have been prouder. A dream come true. I can't wait however to retire which I will do in a few years. Why you ask? Because I'm now EMBARRASSED to be a Chicago Police Officer. Not because of the Abatte thing or some of the other scandals that will soon surface. Those things (hopefully not Abatte) will occur from time to time. I'm embarrassed because of the way this department has been run as of late. POD Missions, DOC Missions, Seatbelt Missions, SOP Missions, Public Violence Missions, none of which have had any impact on crime. The appointment of some of the most incompetent individuals that have ever been on this job to key command positions. The expansion of that Command Staff for no other reason other than to reward Clines cronies. The smoke and mirrors show that Cline and Co. have created. The COMPLETE lack of backbone by the Command Staff, particularly when it comes to dealing with the news media. They have the backbone of a jellyfish. CAPS. Need I say anymore? I'm embarrassed because of the quality of some of the "Officers" they have been hiring. People who should be flipping burgers instead of being given a gun and a star, people who actually THINK that because of that, that they actually are the Police.

Most of this, while not all, is the result of Cline and Company and Daley. They are on the way to completely destroying whats left of a once great Police Department. I however do not want to be around to watch it's destruction.

3/31/2007 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

they sure the fuck won't let the media walk around at 35th street.. why should any other police facility be any different ?

3/31/2007 09:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not embarrassed and my morale is not low at the recent scandals. On the other hand, I feel relieved that these idiot coppers are locked up. I don't have any clout or a phone call and I can't tell you how time after time I see these fuck up's getting out of trouble because of mommy and daddy. I like many coppers I know say fuck them, lock them up and throw away the key.

3/31/2007 09:57:00 AM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

7:11 AM ("citizen Chris Robinson")

Well, well. At least you had the cojones to give your name and eMail address on your second post.

Whether you agree or disagree with Barry Moran's post, he, like his late brother John, easily qualify as "Chicago's Finest".

For obvious reasons, politicians and high-ranking police officials may be fair game for "anonymous" criticism. Notwithstanding, some of us will not tolerate an "anonymous" and insulting tirade against an outstanding detective who had the courage to identify himself.

Ergo, I now apologize for calling you a "cowardly cocksucker" since you have since identified yourself.

Like Moran, you are entitled to express your opinion, even if controversial, Citizen Robinson.

Have a happy life.

3/31/2007 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to: 3/31, 7:39 am....well said, VERY well said..

3/31/2007 12:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We fight back by getting rid of the cops that make us look bad. I'm not talking about the b.s. cr's, I'm talking about the ones like Abatte, S.O.S. and the people like him. I always hear everyone bitching because someone did a home invasion and it's swept under the rug. Of course the copper who is the head of it doesn't get in trouble, it's the rest of his team that doesn't have the clout that looks at 30 days pending. Fuck them.

3/31/2007 01:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
they sure the fuck won't let the media walk around at 35th street.. why should any other police facility be any different ?

Excellent point. Did you ever try to get on the 5th floor? Access is blocked unless you have the right swipe card, even if you're sworn, and you have to either call someone to let you in or stand around until someone enters or leaves and then sneak in before the door shuts. What are they afraid of? There's already security on the ground floor checking IDs. Oh wait, maybe they're afraid of some angry copper showing up with a baseball bat. Never mind.

3/31/2007 04:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do you mean the department can involved in my private life? You mean Cline and Williams may be at my next swinger's club meeting? Yuck!

3/31/2007 07:08:00 PM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

Well handled Northside.

3/31/2007 07:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

charlie williams and phil cline are empty, politically reactive non-leaders. clearly "charlie" is on the defensive for the actions that were taken against captain m.b., formerly of 25 second watch. the reason he is on the defensive is that he must know that what was done to m.b. is not justified by the policies of the dept. and the laws of the state of IL. hope m.b. is reinstated as captain and sues the shit out of c.w. and p.c. both c.w. and p.c. should resign now. the have demonstrated for some months now that the cannot lead.

3/31/2007 08:32:00 PM  
Blogger kateykakes said...

Having a brother who was a CO and now a Marine, and another who is a FF and EMS truly makes me appreciate everything you all do, although I've ALWAYS had the respect, as I was brought up that way.

Just because one idiot does something wrong doesn't mean you all fall in that category. I've always thought you all should receive much more respect than you get, and it irks me to no end that the media tries to paint you all with the same brush, and it's just not fair.

Thank you all for the sacrifices you make everyday to keep civilians like me and my family safe. You all are appreciated more than you know.

Please be safe out there.

3/31/2007 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank You Kateykakes

3/31/2007 10:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm citizen Chris Robinson,
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We don't care WHAT you think fuck face.
This site is for cops, you asswipe.
If you MUST stick your nose in here then just read it and STFU.
Go to the janitorial website where you belong.
No, I don't need to id myself a-hole. I am a cop, I BELONG here , you don't.

3/31/2007 10:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As an attorney, and a widow of an NYPD copper, I can honestly say that those pussies (a term don't like to use unless appropriate)deserved a good whoop'n for their flagrant disregard for the grieving process. And shame on them for exploitong the situation for their personal gain. As a defense attorney, I say go ahead and dirty up the yuppies. Pry, pull, pluck till they cry in court.

3/31/2007 11:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The media is nothing but the same as our alderthieves whores looking to hang someone to make themselves look good! Bad press sells papers good press sells nothing! They violate the law and peoples rights all the time but get away with it always! Why? the top brass are afraid that if they deny them like daley does they will air the dirt they saved up on them so they throw all of us into the can and give them lies about us! The corruption is so rampant here stevie wonder could see it! thanks to daley and his cast of felons we are in this situation! DALEY PLEASE RESIGN NOW AND MOVE TO YOUR MINI-MANSION AT GRAND BEACH AND OPEN ALL THE SHOE BOXES WITH THE MILLIONS YOU HAVE AND SPEND IT ON YOUR GREEDY SELF!

4/01/2007 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We don't care WHAT you think fuck face.
This site is for cops, you asswipe.
If you MUST stick your nose in here then just read it and STFU.
Go to the janitorial website where you belong.
No, I don't need to id myself a-hole. I am a cop, I BELONG here , you don't.

3/31/2007 10:19:00 PM

Funny, I don't remember having to enter my badge number, numbnuts. Did I miss that step?

This site is full of people pissed off about what the public thinks. I'm the public. So at least some of the people here DO care what I think.

So why don't *you* STFU?

And how the hell do we know you're even a cop? I think you DO need to identify yourself. Like I did. Maybe you're like one of those fake-ass Navy Seals. Do you tell people that you keep the city safe and then clock in at the local Dunkin'?

What's *your* name, coward?

4/01/2007 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Northside for quashing that professionally. I was not looking forward to reading about some liberal yuppie named CHRIS ROBINSON loading up the space on our blog with his "hurt cyberspace feelings" rant.
nice job.
CCSPD #551

4/01/2007 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds to me like the grieving cop was the one not in control and crying like a little bitch. The yuppie called him on it. Who's the real bitch? Bitch.

3/30/2007 09:08:00 AM

Now tell me why would you stick your nose into someone elses business??Fuck that coke snorting piece of shit.........a million things to choose from to do and he has to call the copper a pussy........Why??? and as for you lets hope you never have to shed a tear....bitch

4/01/2007 11:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THIS GUY DESERVES AN ASS-BEATING! 2.5 YEARS ON JOB AND HE'S CRYING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH?? I'M EMBARRASSED 2 WEAR A UNIFORM BECAUSE OF THIS GUY!!

3/30/2007 11:40:00 AM

Fuck you Troll...........your not the police.........if you are embarrassd then turn in your star.............moron

4/01/2007 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Chris Robinson............ Go AWAY..............nobody cares what you think..............

4/01/2007 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This site is full of people pissed off about what the public thinks. I'm the public. So at least some of the people here DO care what I think.

Wrong...Wrong...Wrong.....you have identified yourself as a troll and a asshole........NOBODY cares what you think....go blog on some left wing site....

4/01/2007 12:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of this got me thinking..........about all the times I have seen coppers cry....

The wagon taking a dead baby to the ME....copper held the baby in his arms rather than have it roll around in the back.....

after helping the elderly victim of some thugs that robbed and raped her....she was 80yo........

Car accidents involving young people..........coming home from a party.....they all died...

finding abused animals.......that have to be put down because of what humans have done to them..........

Sometimes on their wedding days......

At the birth of their children.........

when we face the death of family members.......

when we face the death of one of our own.........we have all seen way too many funerals.....

When a citizen says thank you and we remember that we have not toiled in vain..............

4/01/2007 01:00:00 PM  
Anonymous 2599 said...

Put 2520 (Northside) back up with a "five frank paul", squad. Other units, disregard.

4/01/2007 05:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Randy Gordon said...

I am a civilian living in the Westridge (50th and 40th wards) community of Chicago.

For what it's worth, I just wanted to say that there are a lot of us that really do appreciate all the efforts that the police make to keep our community safe.

A lot of civilians feel that way, far more than you realize. It is just that an occasion to say so rarely occurs.

For the most part, police officers do not make contact with civilians under the best of circumstances, You can hardly expect that someone you are about to arrest, or at least fine or intimidate, is going to be favorably disposed to anyone of your profession at that moment.

And for most civilians, going up to any law enforcement official and saying, "Gee, you guys are doing a great job" is dangerous, because they worry that the LEO will think that they are up to something nefarious.

So most civilians keep their silence on such things. But that doesn't mean we don't appreciate, or don't care.

We do. A lot. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that it takes a lot of courage and dedication to go out and do what you do. Most of us civilians understand that.

But the fact of the matter is, most of us are never going to say it to your face. You are just going to have to live with that, it comes with the profession.

Just don't forget that just because you don't hear it, that it does not mean we don't appreciate all that you do.

And so, I will end by saying on behalf of all of rest of us:

"Thanks for everything you do!"

4/01/2007 07:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the Jefferson Tap PO
My father had passed away 10years ago he was the police before me,and on my graduation day when you walk down the line shaking the hands of all the bosses your father pulled me aside,looked me in the eye and said"your father would be very proud of you,congradulations wear his star with pride" YOur father will always have afond place in my heart for that. I dont know if you read this blog but I thought that this would help some people see what kind of man he was, and why his honor needed to be defended in the manner that it was. Hold your head high, you did the right thing. An 8ball and a loud mouth dont make you a man, honor in your family and the resolve to stand up for them do.

4/01/2007 11:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the Jefferson Tap PO
My father had passed away 10years ago he was the police before me,and on my graduation day when you walk down the line shaking the hands of all the bosses your father pulled me aside,looked me in the eye and said"your father would be very proud of you,congradulations wear his star with pride" YOur father will always have afond place in my heart for that. I dont know if you read this blog but I thought that this would help some people see what kind of man he was, and why his honor needed to be defended in the manner that it was. Hold your head high, you did the right thing. An 8ball and a loud mouth dont make you a man, honor in your family and the resolve to stand up for them do.

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This is why the coporate fags, media, J public understand the police family and hate the police for it. I guess the dept will just throw it away due to the heat.

I work at the Sun-times, I work for Xerox I own a car dealership.

I'm a Chicago Cop. The public hates the community because they have noting like it.

4/02/2007 01:29:00 AM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

Randy Gordon:
You're welcome! Thank you for taking the time to write those words.

4/02/2007 02:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank You Randy Gordon.

4/02/2007 07:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TX Mr/Mrs. citizen. Guess what?, If some1 would have mouthed off to me when I was grieving with my friends after my DAD died, who I miss as much now as 8 years ago, they would have gotten their ass kicked. I did not care for the late Cmdr., but I respect his son grieving for him. the pussy business man got off easy, IMO. What are/ always have been fighting words, disrespect my parent and you just asked for trouble!!!

4/02/2007 07:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" TX Mr/Mrs. citizen. Guess what?, If some1 would have mouthed off to me when I was grieving with my friends after my DAD died, who I miss as much now as 8 years ago, they would have gotten their ass kicked. I did not care for the late Cmdr., but I respect his son grieving for him. the pussy business man got off easy, IMO. What are/ always have been fighting words, disrespect my parent and you just asked for trouble!!!

4/02/2007 07:18:00 PM "
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I'm not surprised that you didn't like a police commander since you are obviously a gangbanger.

You do know there are cops on this site, right?

4/02/2007 11:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many of these persons that got beat up by the police were wearing Dockers?

4/04/2007 06:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

remember only tuff guys wear Dockers.

4/05/2007 10:45:00 PM  

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