Is This For Real?
OK, who can verify this one?
- The "camera car" test case has been presented to the department on a silver platter and this, boys and girls, is how the department will back you. Earlier this year a midnite traffic car stops a woman on LSD for speeding. She has has no licence or proof. PO tells her she has to go with him to the station to post a bond. Woman goes off and says she 's not going anywhere etc etc. PO gives her the go or arrest option. Woman states that she will make a complaint that he grabbed her breasts and MF'd her. Sure enough PO is served by IAD with charges and allegations on woman's SIGNED affidavit. BINGO.. entire episode is videotaped completely exonerating PO. PO asks IAD when complainant will be arrested. IAD replies that they're "not in the business of making these kinds of arrests" Want to give PO a day because bitch says he left her car running when he transported her. KNOCK KNOCK!!! DO ALL YOU HARD CHARGERS OUT THERE GET IT YET???
This would be the definition of "insanity." The Department spends millions on a camera system and touts the benefits for police and civilian alike - protecting police from false accusations and civilians from brutality and strong language. Then, when the opportunity presents itself to actually use the camera system, the Department declines to do so. If true, why not charge the woman? Wouldn't the result publicity completely justify the installation of more cameras? Couldn't public behavior be influenced by the tiniest bit if they knew they were held to certain standards also?
If it isn't being used to fuck a PO, we guess IAD isn't interested.
If it isn't being used to fuck a PO, we guess IAD isn't interested.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
140 Comments:
Civil lawsuit against the female who lied on the affidavit and accused said officer!
Can't file a beef on IAD but you can take your evidence to a lawyer and sue the IAD officers for malicious conduct in the workplace and the Dept. in Federal Court!
Also can file a equal employment opportunity complaint against the dept.
Speaking of fucking over PO's. Why are the new fangled yuppy snot nosed over educated Police such pussies? Cry baby run to mommy crap.
Nice job HW 017 Mids! You and fake hooters girl ran like little girls to jam that Sgt. up. Ball busting is ball busting. If you cant handle it quit. You let the pussie ruin you. You blow off jobs and are totally useless.
Wait.... we are all going to have cameras at work to catch you and your hunny partner bangin on company time. You and fake hooters girl should be ashamed of yourselves. You are a disgrace to the district and the Department. Go to IAD where you both belong.
From 35th Street...
There is another investigation relative to Polish immigrants. Rumor has it.. a national syndication is investigating a case involving a large sum of $$ and the victims are Polish immigrants!!
Has anyone been allowed to file a criminal complaint against a person that made a false complaint and signed the affidavit? Ever? I was told...we don't do that here...
Maybe they can install a camera on the segways. I saw a copper wipe out on one of those things yesterday, but managed to somehow stay on her feet.
Im glad to see that she was ok.
Will someone please tell the Goldstars that those things are dangerous.
As a supervisor who has investigated a C.R.# that was subsequently found to be false, I'll tell you why. . . Because the Department will not allow a person to be charged with making a false complaint under the statute.
I personally called IAD for assistance in how to proceed with charging the Complainant and was flat out ordered NOT to make the arrest. I was further told in no uncertain terms that the law is NOT to be enforced. Of course, the won't put this in writing.
The Department's policy is that no such arrests will be made, as they don't want to prevent people from making complaints. (Isn't the whole purpose of the law to prevent people from making FALSE complaints???)
Very truly yours,
A Sergeant Who Knows
Relax, if IAD chooses not to charge, that's fine, sue her civally for defamation of charecter, it's a no-brainer with the video evidence, it's the only real recourse we have to stop this from happening.
IAD doesn't have to make the arrest either but she can still be arrested and charged by the department, call her in for an interview regarding her complaint and slap the cuffs on her.
We will fuck you when we can and excuse you never.
This is the rules
Richard Daley, Mayor of Chicago
This is true. I have contacts in the traffic unit. You think that they would release the video to the media and make the arrest. That would put an end to numerous BS complaints and tell the working P.O. that someone is watching out for them.
Oh what nonsense has the city forsaken upon us. Forget about the alleged police mishappenings that every news outlet is showing day in and day out. There will always be goofs in whatever profession or line of work you are in, but they have a right to be proven in a court not tv. Just look at the city council, county board , etc...etc..etc.. Think they are any better? Let's not even go to the media and their bunch of misfits. I'll say that in 3 yrs we will have such a spike in crime that we will make detroit look like a cake walk. If I was a criminal i'd certainly commit a crime a in cook county let alone chicago. My friends all they want are yes sir no sir report and ticket writing robots. LONG GONE are the days of pro-active and aggressive police work LONG GONE. What a shame, what a goddam shame. Since when do we bow over and take it in the ass from every storefront reverend and racebaiting aldercreature? Absolutely unreal. Do you know why all of the suburban police departments have cameras? Cause they do not have over 9,000 officers and they actually back their police up. Nooooooooo not here! We have a silent FOP and a city and mayor that hates us to no end. We are sending cars out of OUR districts where we live to protect people who could care less if the military was in their neighborhood or not! to protect them all the while our garages keep gettin hit and vandalized, our children getting beat up and robbed while joe and jesus just keep driving on through sellin and walking around doin the gangbang routine without impunity. Makes me sick and it should make you all sick too! Its not an edison park thing, a mt greenwood/beverly thing, garfield ridge thing........its a police thing. If you people havent realized that we are expendible and that we could be gone in the snap of a finger then wake up. Police your neighborhoods, back each other up, drive the doggs out of your district or at least make it hell for them day in and day out. Face it, we arent gonna be allowed to leave the city so we might as well quit letting these shitbags ruin everything they touch and protect where YOU live and not flee. Stand your ground. Its your life, your house, your life savings, your family! And Never ever say that you are embarrassed to be a Chicago Police Officer, NEVER! Let these motherfuckers in the shit parts of the city kill each other and rob each other to no end. And to you new and young guys, quit allowing yourselves to be brainwashed by these bosses please! Do your job cause you enjoy doin policework and for no one else. I could go on and on and on but I've already rambled enough. Keep your heads up, watch yer ass out there and remember........its only a job. Dont let the job work you! You work the job. Be safe.
FromAgoodHardWorkingPoJustLikeYou!
Fuck this dept. They are more worried about wolf pack missions, gang dispersals, contact cards and 1811's.
Fuck this county. They give scumbags bond when they shouldn't. They don't violate probation or parole when the scumbag does. Repeat offenders keep repeating.
No probable cause when their is only because overcrowding and pressure from above to throw out all those cases before they even get sent to the chief judge. Down grade offenses when they shouldnt. Exclude aggravation and 1000 foot rules when they are hitting them in the face. Not Guilty every time because the judge dont like the police and loves the scumbag.
Fuck i.a.d. . You don't need them anyway. Call the area for some help. Get file with sworn statement , video inventoried? This isn't just false reports, its purjury. Somebody needs to do this and make it newsworthy.
Oh and I forgot, if you get charges have the i.a.d. prick subpeanaed into court, do nothing rat bastards.
Great story. It's not true, but still, a great story!
I handled a CR, which was a money beef. I found the money hidden in the complainant's vehicle. I pinched him and the state refused charges. The head of felony review at the time said that if I had a signed statement, felony charges would be approved. You should have heard the shit storm when I turned that CR# in. If you are assigned the investigation you can do what you want. What can they do to you?Put it on paper.
As a supervisor who has investigated a C.R.# that was subsequently found to be false, I'll tell you why. . . Because the Department will not allow a person to be charged with making a false complaint under the statute.
I personally called IAD for assistance in how to proceed with charging the Complainant and was flat out ordered NOT to make the arrest. I was further told in no uncertain terms that the law is NOT to be enforced. Of course, the won't put this in writing.
The Department's policy is that no such arrests will be made, as they don't want to prevent people from making complaints. (Isn't the whole purpose of the law to prevent people from making FALSE complaints???)
Very truly yours,
A Sergeant Who Knows
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Ask the dept this question, Why do your job? On on call, stop, or an assist any cop can lose time or his/her job (not to mention life or pension) from a CR#. The end result is, why do anything?
Anonymous said...
From 35th Street...
There is another investigation relative to Polish immigrants. Rumor has it.. a national syndication is investigating a case involving a large sum of $$ and the victims are Polish immigrants!!
4/12/2007 12:45:00 AM
KEY THERE BOYS AND GIRLS RUMOR HAS IT! YOUR SUCH AN ASSHOLE STARTING THIS SHIT! RUMOR HAS IT THEY HAVE YOUR IP NUMBER AND WE ARE GOING TO VISIT YOU AT LEAST RUMOR HAS IT!!
IAD arrests bad coppers. The Area D's should perhaps make the arrest. I can understand that. No?
those clown in iad have to ask permission to do anything. they are scared to lose their parking spot at hq. Thats why a high percentage of them get merit sgt promotion, they couldnt put a charge on a person if their life depended on it thats why the always call the state for help they dont know the law.
o i forgot
Very truly yours,
A Sergeant Who Knows
4/12/2007 01:34:00 AM
Thank You! There are some good sergeants out there. In my opinion, the reason some of them are bad is because no one puts them in their place. In the old days they would "lose" their hat/shield, they would have a flat tire, etc.
No one's condoning illegal behavior, BUT an eye for an eye.
There was a young copper who committed suicide on duty. WHY?? some pussy sergeant scared him over a bullshit law suit!
WHERE IS OUR GREAT UNION ON THIS????? OH YEA, THET ARE IN BED WITH THE CITY RIGHT NOW...DO NOT DISTURB....
If you do sue that bitch, get your lawyer to get a court order for that video immediately. Evidence in a C.R. is only held so long unless there is a lawsuit involved.
Then have your lawyer hold a newsconference and show it to world.
Great story. It's not true, but still, a great story!
4/12/2007 06:10:00 AM
If it is true and IAD did this then we as a department do have greater problems. We must keep in mind how people out there know how to use the system against the police and how to jam us up over nothing, where there is no evidence! yet we pay out to these citizens, the systems needs to be be changed. We only have each other PlEASE BACK EACH OTHER UP!!!!
I like what this person said...
"Speaking of fucking over PO's. Why are the new fangled yuppy snot nosed over educated Police such pussies? Cry baby run to mommy crap". 4/12/2007 12:38:00 AM
A female PO (LC)who was dissatisfied with the amount of investigations given to her cried to mommy, who worked for then, City Clerk Laski.
Mommy came over to investigations office and demanded to speak to the Director. Mommy wanted to know why her daughter was being mistreated, when all the other officers were not. The Sgt. came in after hearing the screaming and told mommy, "your daughter is a big girl and if she has a problem we have a chain of command in the dept, and mommy was not part of the chain". Mommy was asked to leave the office.
Could it be that your dumb ass daughter was just a whinny BITCH?
PO (LC) finally got dumped on her own merit.
A Sergeant who knows.
WTF mate...WTF!!!
Sorry,.....perjury
had a situation not long ago where a citizen accused me of failing to take police action in a domestic battery situation. as it turned out the incident was on tape and i was fully exonerated. like the traffic cop's situation, the dept did nothing as far as an arrest when it was determined that the citizen's allegations where totally false. why have a law that is not enforced. wondering of the fop should take this matter to the state police and demand that arrests for false report be made.
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We should find a way to have our video make the news. Lets turn the tables.
If this is true, shame on the city and shame on our union!!
You guys are finally finding out what the burbs have been dealing with for some time. Don't believe the hype the cameras hurt you more than they help! Once you guys get them watch as the productivity drops and crime rate increases..Its no fun when you have someone monday morning quaterback every stop you make. That guy sitting behind the desk at 9am after 2 cups of coffee watching the video of your stop at 3am can always find something that you did wrong or something you should have done. They can always do it better. Thats why there in the office watching your videos.. Real Police do not watch the videos. REMEBER THAT! And whats the point of not enforcing a false allegation? I dont get that?????
I think those of you who are advocating a civil suit are missing the point. What the woman did was a CRIMINAL act. She should be charged accordingly. If it were the other way around and the PO did grab her breast he would be charged and the tape all over the news. It has gotten to the point that, because we are held to a "higher standard" than the citizens that we have more severe charges placed against us than a citizen. Also, it appears that when a crime is committed upon us we are just supposed to take it, (example - trying to get Agg Batt on a PO) Imagine also if it was not a PO but an exempt in the story, do you think nothing would be done to the woman?
P.S.
SCC, I usually sign on as TheHatLives but my blogger account is not working. Anyone else have this problem.
Thanks
An idea.....Demand that the order to NOT enforce this law be put into writing. Then put that IAD sgt. or other boss in the middle. Meaning we can not enforce the other laws on the books, because people would get upset. Anybody think this would work?
Use the system we operate in.
At the time of the false allegation the copper should have requested an RD # for false police report and fill the report out listing the offender as (named offender) . Requestd a supervisor to facilitate the arrest.
This opens the door for civil liability. Go after the offender as well as the city if there is no cooperation.
The vehicle should have been secured, when you are wrong you are wrong.
When units ie. IAD operate outside the law they are wrong and accountability must be demanded. The FOP should have been notified, getting names, times, date etc.
I'd even have a witness...
Again , no response, drag them in as well.
The squeaky wheels do get the grease, just be smart, do it all correctly.
Using force, dirty tactics, knee jerk arecation are all passe today.
Today's coppers should be cool headed and totally by the book and law abiding...that is to say get them where they thrive...the law is black and white not gray.
Spin our wheels, yes, once in a while but when the coppers all catch on and do it en mass...especially through grievance and civil suits, things will slowly change.
If a smart copper gets one page of paper to do he should be creative enough to cause others to have to generate ten times that amount because of it. One day of lost time due to a disciplinary issue should be off set by ten medical days.
Be smart. Follow the rules. Make others follow them too.
All of these great ideas about lawsuites and arresting her etc. But explain to me how your going to get that tape released from IAD in order to benefit a po, without that tape either somehow getting erased or lost somehow???
IAD will always be who they are, coppers who love to fuck over other coppers. I can understand cases like the SOS thing, but being the victim of bullshit IAD beefs in the past, I know what they are like. One year, I had a very serious surgery. These fucks come to my door the day after I got home to "simply clear something up and it wouldn't take up too much of my time." I told them to get fucked. When I called the FOP and the Dept. they said there was nothing I could do. No beef. This is going back about 10 years. But there is one thing I could say, alot of these "educated ppo's" definitely belong there. 5 guys on the hood and they stand there with their hands in their pockets looking up at the birds while I'm going through them. That's watching your back. This means they will make excellent backstabbers. Not all PPO's mind you, but enough of them. I've met some good ones.
I agree with the first poster. File a lawsuit. Use the FOP if you have to, but do SOMETHING!!!!!!!
As far as the department's unofficial policy to not charge citizens for this as stated by the SGT. FUCK 'EM, you have rights too!!!
She was looking for the quick payday from the police department and she got caught.
Stay safe and go home at the end of your tour.
There was an incident a few years ago shown on Inside Edition where an officer was accused of sexual assault on a drunken journalist. While the journalist was in the back seat of the squad she stated that she would ruin him with false charges and write about it daily in the paper she worked for. The officer had his own recorder recording this whole conversation.
She made the charges and they were dropped once the tape was revealed. The officer went on to sue and WIN. GET A PRIVATE ATTORNEY!
Go to the ASA office at any area court house and present your paper work and case to the states attorney then swear out a warrant. If they wont handle your case take up and file a beef. YOU BECOME A VICTIM when your falsely accused!
Has anyone been allowed to file a criminal complaint against a person that made a false complaint and signed the affidavit? Ever? I was told...we don't do that here...
4/12/2007 01:13:00 AM
Years ago a traffic cop sued someone that put a false money beef on him,got some money out of it too.Had to do it on his own though CPD would'nt do shit for him.
Also I believe there was an officer that sued Walter Jacobson for slander for one of his commentaries against the officer and he got money.Once again you have to do it on your own,the Dept does'nt have the balls to go after people who file false complaints against us!
This just in the det. div. will now start doing seat belt missions after a major crime takes place. Also they will be holding them selves on foot patols.
Its about time they do some of patrols work since patrol has to do their work!
Whoever this PO is, why hasn't he gone to the FOP?
Why hasn't he gone to the media?
You better believe I wouldn't roll over like that!
Many years ago, I made a traffic stop, and old girl was not happy. She beefed that I reached in and grabbed her virginia. Completely untrue, and the CR was tossed. I called a lawyer looking to sue, and was told that I had not been "damaged" in any way, what did I expect to get. He said that he would file the suit, but that I had to check with legal affairs first. they advised me that the cr would not be made public, to protect the anonymity of the complaintant. they said go ahead on, but you pay for the private lawyer. I said fuck it, I didn't want to lay down the money for a possible bum outcome. The department and the city have no balls in this area. Its the same mentality which settles every bullshit lawsuit thats filed by all of these scumbags. "It's cheaper to settle" FUCK THAT. Make these rats get on the stand and swear to their bullshit, prove them wrong and charge them with perjury. Maybe the next piece of shit won't be so quick to file.
22 down, 3 yrs to go, and I hate saying that. I wanted to be the police my whole life, and our police department has gone to shit. But I keep working, for my own pride and for fellow PO's.
Stay Safe
Not true?? Yeah, right. You must be be HQ's hack boss sweating your balls off wishing it wasn't true. Hellooo...FOP, media, Richie???
civil lawsuit for defamation of character and intentional infliction of emotional distress
contact an attorney and get a copy of the video/audio tape as well as all the "investigation" materials from iad--if they "destroyed" the tapes (no idea how long they keep em) have the investigators give depositons and testify at the trial
then after you have started the preliminary preparations for the civil trial have the attorney contact the a.s.a. and the media to inform them of the case. different standards for each type of trial--burden of proof,statute of limitations, etc.
hopefully this wonderful creature is employed. if not record your judgement in case she gets money i.e. being attacked by abbate or a coupla of traders name callin at a bar.
better yet maybe she works for/is affiliated with a politician or "community activist" they wanted the cameras in our cars lets show em how they work.
iad (like em or not) has a duty to investigate police officers and prosecute if necessary.
anyone can go to an asa, present their case, and swear out a criminal warrant. likewise with a civil suit esp with all the above evidence
Yesterday one of the clowns from the Area two gun team wrote about the case they f----- up, placing blame on the ASA and the investigating detectives.
GET A GRIP BOZO. NEWS FLASH!!!
The case is an Area Three RBT case.
It does not involve guns, drugs, gangs or Area Two. WTF is the Area two gun team doing executing a search warrant without touching base with the investigating area? I'm sure john doe used for the warrant really exists,yeah right. He just happened to come in to the area two gun team to talk about computers.Are you f------ kiding me? Had they done their homework, ( which they are required to do ) they would have found out that this suspect had already been investigated. How about some accountability on the part of the supervising LT, Sgt and the
affiant? Had they used their Pea brains maybe they would not have had a negative warrant. It is unusual that the ASA called Area Three before approving the warrant, however, at least somebody did the right thing instead of trying to be a HERO. When are these morons going to be stopped. Hey superstars get a f------ clue.
It's almost like they are telling us something............
For those who are not aware: downtown is having a field day with "stripping" people lately.
three cases have been pointed out lately:
1. There goes the neighbor hood
a sgt for residency (you roll the dice you take your chances)
2. Herbie goes bannanas III
a sgt for "assault" when a 2 yr wonder started mouthing off at him in front of numerous other officers on the watch (sounds like insubordination to me)
then again this wonder has only worked midnights and actually has a portable gps unit he hooks up in the squad car (so he can make it to check off--i guess; he doesnt seem to do much else other than write parkers) car XX31 where ru?
i guess the sgt did tell the wonder to back down or b "tased"-- the sgt. coulda just gotten the CR for insubordination and wonder boy coulda worked on his fake tan while shopping at Abercromie and Fitch (who am i kiddin--he shops at value city) while taking his 30 day sabbatical
3. Mr Smith goes to Hollywood
this sounds like a bad movie:
an odpo while on furlough is at a restaurant dining with his girlfriend and passes out. An ambulance is called and when they find out he is The Police call the local pd. the local pd calls cpd to "verify" employment, let them know what happened, and let them know the odpo will be ok.
cpd response:
acting street deputy Gene Roy calls the wc of the district where this po works and ORDERS him to initiate a cr for conduct unbecoming, failure to secure his weapon, and carrying unauthorized duty weapon.
fyi:
the weapon was secure at po's hotel room--local pd went there and inventoried it
weapon was in fact registered and is a duty weapon which the officer is authorized to carry it.
local pd has been in contact with cpd and even sent a letter stating odpo did not violate any ordinance, was not accused/charged with an offense, and that the odpo did nothing wrong and they called as a courtesy.
The question remains what were you thinking Roy?
i know you have alot on your mind with all the C(r)aps problems in your district. Apparently you are willing to go that extra mile to reach out to your community working with your female caps officers to address important issues-like the number of flea bag motels for one.
it would seem to me that a person on vacation with medical issues who never once stated "cpd", decided for what ever reason to leave his firearm secure in a motel, and was unknown to locals as the police to be able to enjoy his vacation but i guess not.
i wasnt sure who was driving gene's car that night maybe a female from the c(r)aps office.
that might explain what you were thinking
017 DIST SGTS
#1 DOES $4000 DAMAGE TO HORNER PARK FIELD DOING DONUTS.
#2 CAUGHT LIVING OUTSIDE THE CITY !!!
#3 PULLS OUT HIS LAZER AND POINTS IT AT PO .....
FOUR MORE SGTS OPENINGS!!!!
AND IM 16000 OUT ON LIST !!
I.A.D. can not do any charges for the false report. It's not because they don't want to, belive it or not. It's because the city and the brass order them not to, they hold the strings.
Anonymous said...
Fuck i.a.d. . You don't need them anyway. Call the area for some help. Get file with sworn statement , video inventoried? This isn't just false reports, its purjury. Somebody needs to do this and make it newsworthy.
4/12/2007 05:38:00 AM
Let us but our brains to the ground here....
I'm looking at the Incident Reporting Guide. Public Peace Violation--False Police Report UCR 2860.
Have a GOCR drawn up with her name as offender. Get it on paper.
Just in the 14 posts I read, I feel better about the day and agree with it all. SCC and other P.O.'s you guys keep me amused.
I thought the union officers were still sworn P.O.'s.
Why don't they make the arrests?
They still carry badges & guns & have company cars......
Why bother having signed affidavits if there are no consequences for lying? Is the department just trying to make us work less or not hard? Why would anyone want to go out there and do a good job and bust our asses to get the good pinches if we have to put up with this BS? I love working hard, makes the day go by faster, feels good, but why should I if this is what I have to look forward to.
Thank God FOP will stand up for this officer too. Hah!
Nice job HW 017 Mids! You and fake hooters girl ran like little girls to jam that Sgt. up. Ball busting is ball busting. If you cant handle it quit. You let the pussie ruin you. You blow off jobs and are totally useless.
Hey you fucker.. Get your head out of your partner's pussy. Everbody knows that Sgt you LIED about is as straight as they come. REMEMBER KARMA IS A BITCH and you deserve everything that comes to you. What are you trying to prove? You are WRONG.
I work for a suburb of Chicago, and we have had the same kind of incident many times. After I.A. gets the complaint, they check to see if there is a video available. If there is, they watch the video. If they see that the complainant is making a false complaint, they call the complainant up and ask them to come into the station to be reinterviewed. If the complainant sticks to the "false" story, I.A. locks them up right there. I.A. then advises them that the whole incident was caught on video. Thats the way it is!!!!
Wish there was a camera in the LT's car in the 5th district to see Lt. KR going out each day and doing nothing but write movers so he can go to traffic court at LT's pay..... good news is it keeps his nose out of other peoples business.......
I only have one word if this really happened UNBELIEVABLE!
everyone call iad and ask them what is going to be done
I read a case report a few years ago where a women got pulled over in 018. She was given a traffic citation. She then called OPS and alleged that the two officers took her into an alley and raped her. After an investigation A/3 detectives determined that she was lying, she ended up stating, "I was just mad at those guys for giving me a ticket, and I knew this would get them back." The dumb bitch was charged with felony Disorderly Conduct.
Why couldn't our precious IAD do something like this to this women who made these comments under oath to sworn police department personnel in this case.
I thought my morale had hit an all time low after all the incidents last month but now it just got lower. Thanks SCC. Don't do any work!!!! Fuck these people....
All of you people are either one year wonders or are really stupid. Which does not surprise me. So, I will enlighten you. You do what you tell the citizens to do.
First, have a case report made. The victims are you and the City of Chicago. Second, you go to court with the copy of the report and as one of the victims, you swear out a warrant for the arrest of the offender.
Then, you go to court if and when they are arrested and prosecuted.
As to the refusal of IAD to arrest and prosecute, you write a letter of coplaint to the Attorney General- Lisa Madigan. She has the power to determine if the refusal to arrest and prosecute criminal violations warrants an investigation. She helped force the City to adhere to the statute.
To the first Poster
I hope that you are accurate in your suggestions. If you are I hope the officers involved follow your advice.
I hope they sue the shit out of everyone. And the FOP ought to grab this one and run with it
PERFECT EXAMPLE TO NOT DO TRAFFIC STOPS!
YOU HAVE TO BE A DAMN FOOL TO STOP ANYBODY, AS HAS BEEN SEEN ON VIDEOTAPE!
THE DEPARTMENT AND IAD DID NOT STAND BEHIND OUR POLICE OFFICERS!
I'M PISSED JUST TO HEAR OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN AND THE DEPARTMENT HAS NO BALLS TO GO AFTER THE OFFENDER, ON VIDEOTAPE!
PAM ZEKMAN, WHERE ARE YOU ON THIS ONE!
Has anyone been allowed to file a criminal complaint against a person that made a false complaint and signed the affidavit? Ever? I was told...we don't do that here...
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Civil Court
My first question would be as follows, does the camera show that the vehicle was left running and not secured?
If the answer is yes, then the PO should be asked why he did not secure the vehicle?
I f the answer is yes then he might deserve a day. If the answer is no then he should file an appeal immediately.
Regarding the second matter can anyone see the SAO allowing charges to be filed regarding her lies against the PO?
The first matter and the second matter should not be related. If he failed to secure the vehicle it still does not justify her false allegations against him.
The PO and FOP should be lodging a civil case against the lady immediately for the allowable statutory amount..
Catch 22, they may not charge peeple who make false complaints, but they dont charge us either!(except jf)
Thanks SCC for this Blog. Sometimes it really helps to RANT!
Ill labor relationsboard you can file on your own against the dept
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Anonymous said...
Fuck i.a.d. . You don't need them anyway. Call the area for some help. Get file with sworn statement , video inventoried? This isn't just false reports, its purjury. Somebody needs to do this and make it newsworthy.
4/12/2007 05:38:00 AM
Let us but our brains to the ground here....
I'm looking at the Incident Reporting Guide. Public Peace Violation--False Police Report UCR 2860.
Have a GOCR drawn up with her name as offender. Get it on paper.
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Case report is false reports, charge is perjury, but I thought you would know that without making a big deal out of it. tanx
Cat Lady said;
My cat LALO for Supe, He's sneaky and he answers to no one! That might be a hallucination, I do have a 103.5 fever.
Anonymous said...
had a situation not long ago where a citizen accused me of failing to take police action in a domestic battery situation. as it turned out the incident was on tape and i was fully exonerated. like the traffic cop's situation, the dept did nothing as far as an arrest when it was determined that the citizen's allegations where totally false. why have a law that is not enforced. wondering of the fop should take this matter to the state police and demand that arrests for false report be made.
4/12/2007 09:14:00 AM
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Jimmy,
Everybody in the district told you to sue that bitch. you still have the dvd and there is a two year limit. Get a lawyer, the department won't help. You have the perfect case. You'll get some money, and it'll help every copper on future incidents.
Dave
Some people do not care about lieing on POs as they see there is not any penalty for doing it. They see that Rev. fat Al and his posse fabricated a major rape allegation against a cop, which was proven false, and now him and hymetown Jackson are the go to guys for the media on racial issues.
A female PO (LC)who was dissatisfied with the amount of investigations given to her cried to mommy, who worked for then, City Clerk Laski.
Mommy came over to investigations office and demanded to speak to the Director. Mommy wanted to know why her daughter was being mistreated, when all the other officers were not. The Sgt. came in after hearing the screaming and told mommy, "your daughter is a big girl and if she has a problem we have a chain of command in the dept, and mommy was not part of the chain". Mommy was asked to leave the office.
Could it be that your dumb ass daughter was just a whinny BITCH?
PO (LC) finally got dumped on her own merit.
A Sergeant who knows.
4/12/2007 09:12:00 AM
Did you also know that her mommy is burkes top precinct captain and also that mommy (DC) has a history of shoplifting from carson's and marshall Fields. Mommy was a big boos at the clerk's office but after 2 fake falls she sued the city and got nice money! (LC) was to be fired in the acaedemy for knifing her then boyfriend I believe he died and due to mommy and burke (LC) had her job back! Clout first! Is she still working her do nothing job at the hall? What a HO!
KEY T HERE BOYS AND GIRLS RUMOR HAS IT! YOUR SUCH AN ASSHOLE STARTING THIS SHIT! RUMOR HAS IT THEY HAVE YOUR IP NUMBER AND WE ARE GOING TO VISIT YOU AT LEAST RUMOR HAS IT!!
4/12/2007 07:41:00 AM
You're scared!! Retain a lawyer and buy some tampons!!
This should tell you how much the city cares about us. take example roll call training video's. When was the last time we have had roll call training that has anything to do the officer saftey. All the training is ethics and procedures not to get the department and city sued. Just remember its cost alot less for one of our funerals than a law suit, and remember we are all expendable...the city would rather see us get killed than get sued
If you remember way back when, the union added s legal funds and get more money out of the membership. This was started because of the large legal debt the union was facing with the squadrol scandal.
When presented at the meeting, it was also stated this money would be used to help PO's sue persons who were proved to have unjustly accused the police. Over the years the union has gotten tons of money for this fund. Ask the union to provide you with either the assistance in filing a lawsuit, or the money to get your own lawyer. Its you right, its your union, and its YOUR money!.
Anonymous said...
IAD will always be who they are, coppers who love to fuck over other coppers......
4/12/2007 10:48:00 AM
You're a sourpuss asshole!! I was in IAD, and I don't like to fuck over anyone. I took the job because it was a chance to work normal hours for once in my life. Family comes first.
I also thought, (and still do) that I was a fair minded person and wouldn't screw anyone over.
And you took the job so you could screw over minority men? Put cases on them and lock them up? Maybe even shoot them dead in cold blood?
Of course you didn't, but making a blanket statement about IAD makes you sound like the same assholes who say all cops are crooks, who only want to line their pockets and put cases on the poor of the city.
Get your head out of your ass and think realistically. People in IAD do their job because someone has to. If you don't want coppers investigating you, maybe you'd like to try a civilian review board for everything....someone that Father Pfleger and Reverand Meeks nominated? Maybe you'd feel better then?
I always gave a copper the benefit of the doubt, but believe it or not, we have some really stupid coppers out there. Thankfully they are a small minority, but they boggle your mind when you see what they do.
Do your job the way you should, treat people the way you want to be treated and you'll be OK.
Or....if the job is so fucked up, if everyone is out to screw you over, then do us all a favor and quit. Go drive a beer truck, they make a decent living.
The City is not interested in pursuing justice, only in ensuring they don't have to pay out any more money than they already do. The cameras are designed to protect the City's bottom line.
You're a sourpuss asshole!! I was in IAD, and I don't like to fuck over anyone. I took the job because it was a chance to work normal hours for once in my life. Family comes first.
I also thought, (and still do) that I was a fair minded person and wouldn't screw anyone over.
And you took the job so you could screw over minority men? Put cases on them and lock them up? Maybe even shoot them dead in cold blood?
Of course you didn't, but making a blanket statement about IAD makes you sound like the same assholes who say all cops are crooks, who only want to line their pockets and put cases on the poor of the city.
Get your head out of your ass and think realistically. People in IAD do their job because someone has to. If you don't want coppers investigating you, maybe you'd like to try a civilian review board for everything....someone that Father Pfleger and Reverand Meeks nominated? Maybe you'd feel better then?
I always gave a copper the benefit of the doubt, but believe it or not, we have some really stupid coppers out there. Thankfully they are a small minority, but they boggle your mind when you see what they do.
Do your job the way you should, treat people the way you want to be treated and you'll be OK.
Or....if the job is so fucked up, if everyone is out to screw you over, then do us all a favor and quit. Go drive a beer truck, they make a decent living.
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Thank God.
IN THIS INSTANCE, BE THE POLICE. YOU ARE A SWORN OFFICER AND WHEN YOU OBSERVE A CRIME BEING COMMITED, ESPECIALLY AGAINST YOU, YOU ARE REQUIRED BY YOUR OATH OF OFFICE TO TAKE ACTION. LOCK THE BITCH UP, TAKE HER ASS TO THE STATION, QUICKLY GET YOUR CB # AND DEFY THE W/C OR ANY OTHER BOSS TO RELEASE W/O CHARGES. AFTER THAT, TAKE YOUR PAPER WORK TO CH. 2, 5, 7, 9 AND 32 AND WATCH THE BOSSES SHIT THEMSELVES!!! HAPPY HUNTING!
Anonymous said...
WHERE IS OUR GREAT UNION ON THIS????? OH YEA, THET ARE IN BED WITH THE CITY RIGHT NOW...DO NOT DISTURB....
4/12/2007 08:45:00 AM
Typical nit wit remark from an idiot who can't come up with something original......is the story even true?
Typical nit wit remark from an idiot who can't come up with something original......is the story even true?
4/13/2007 01:30:00 AM
Of course it's true! I read it on the blog!
If this story is true, there is a little problem most of you have overlooked. When a false report is made, YOU are not he victim of a crime. The AGENCY that the report was made to is the victim. It is up to the agency to pursue criminal charges, not you. Your only recourse is to sue and due to the nature of the case, it will wind up in small claims court. Get real here. You cannot sue the city, file EEOC complaints, or anything else. YOU are not the victim.
As to the traffic cop who sued and won years ago something was left out of the story. He was indicted and went to jail a few years later. Seems he had a taste for jewelry that did not belong to him. I knew the guy.
All of these great ideas about lawsuites and arresting her etc. But explain to me how your going to get that tape released from IAD in order to benefit a po, without that tape either somehow getting erased or lost somehow???
YOU GET A PRIVATE LAWYER AND HAVE HHIM SUBPAEONA IT FOR A CIVIL SUIT.
Fuck Genie Roy!!! The bastard should be stripped for literally dismantling numerous marriages to include his own. Right now, he is trying to get in the coochie of some new females on 3rd watch. A.M is pissed that she is old news to him and the new girls are getting his attention. Hey A.M, Roy was married when you got banged you fuck!!!!!
Get a clue about the character of the man already. If he could ruin his family, then he'll sure as fuck ruin your's. He has no morals and should be stripped for his conduct unbecoming an officer.
Hear he is really worrying about his divorce. Apparently the missus wants everything! Good for her!
Roy took his frustration out on that odpo and it shows....
His coppers had better watch their steps, cuz this guy is a louse out of control.
-009 Days
Anonymous said...
A female PO (LC)who was dissatisfied with the amount of investigations given to her cried to mommy, who worked for then, City Clerk Laski.
Mommy came over to investigations office and demanded to speak to the Director. Mommy wanted to know why her daughter was being mistreated, when all the other officers were not. The Sgt. came in after hearing the screaming and told mommy, "your daughter is a big girl and if she has a problem we have a chain of command in the dept, and mommy was not part of the chain". Mommy was asked to leave the office.
Could it be that your dumb ass daughter was just a whinny BITCH?
PO (LC) finally got dumped on her own merit.
A Sergeant who knows.
4/12/2007 09:12:00 AM
Was this the same girl who was dropping her kid off at school where it was barricaded and had the crossing guards move the barricades so she could drive her "M" plated car with her kid in front to drop off creating a big show! (LC) is a spoiled kid but gets whatever she wants not because of looks no way because she has connections due to theif mommy! Is this the same girl who served subpeonas at corp counsels office and served it on a dead guy told the sgt "Yea boss i handed right to him". What a goof!!
In response to 1:34
Was Amy M. driving his vehicle when Roy screwed over the off duty copper? She puts the "fleas" in fleabag hotels...LOL
Hey off-duty copper don't let this ruthless fuck get you down. Remember:
Roy luvs dem hoes!!!
Recording?
Here's one way:
Every copper, for his / her own protection should record any event that they feel may put them into harms way.
They are small and can be the voice activated type.
To enhance the admissibility during the recording of the "allegation" the officer would simply inform the threatening offender that they should be careful what they propose to falsly accuse since they are being recorded...
At this point the officer should hold up a pen without saying another word.
Most ranters make the false assumption that the officer means that the recording is to be in his / her written hand on paper.
It has worked for me during investigations.
be careful , be smart
Cat Lady said;
My cat LALO for Supe, He's sneaky and he answers to no one! That might be a hallucination, I do have a 103.5 fever.
4/12/2007 07:38:00 PM
PRETTY KITTY said...
MEOWWWWWWWWWoW!! 0^8
To anonymous IAD:
Never once have I had been treated nice by anyone in IAD, never. We have a right to have a sourpuss when idiots are trying and accomplishing the fucking over of police officers for your numbers or whatever agenda you have so save it pal. I'm sure there are a few good men and women working there, as a matter of fact I know one and he is a good guy, but overall the odds are'nt too good. Maybe I could get your name so when I go down there again for another one of my Bullshit beefs for working, I can request you so that maybe....just maybe I can get fair chance. But I highly doubt that will happen. From the second you walk through that door you are looked at as a leper or as though you have a third eye on your forehead with the words GUILTY all over. You took the position for the pay and because you think you are doing the right thing not for the hours pal. Sorry but you are only fooling yourself. And no, I do not have 2yrs on the job. I have 10yrs all in southside districts, 2 in fact. I do treat people with respect and fairness and I would also expect the same courtesy from IAD but like I said earlier, I highly doubt it. Maybe you should go back to pushing a beat car and get back to reality if you do'nt like P.O.'s thinking of you in a high reguard because lets face it......you really are'nt our friends and you certainly are'nt the Police anymore if you ever were. Maybe you should take your head out of your ass or maybe you can drive a beer truck if you don't like it......I heard they make a decent living.
Wish there was a camera in the LT's car in the 5th district to see Lt. KR going out each day and doing nothing but write movers so he can go to traffic court at LT's pay..... good news is it keeps his nose out of other peoples business.......
4/12/2007 04:03:00 PM
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So what?!!! As long as he isn't calling for P.O.s to write the tickets for him, what's the problem? Not a bad, legit way to make a little OT cash if you ask me!
Freedom of information act - if the media can get it we can too .
A lot of you cry about IAD sticking it to coppers. Why don't you find out how many coppers were helped by IAD. You be surprised at the answer!
Civil lawsuit against the female who lied on the affidavit and accused said officer!
Can't file a beef on IAD but you can take your evidence to a lawyer and sue the IAD officers for malicious conduct in the workplace and the Dept. in Federal Court!
Also can file a equal employment opportunity complaint against the dept.
4/12/2007 12:37:00 AM
And what day care center did you get your law degree from?
IAD is doing what they are told to do, just like you are supposed to. In the case of a false allegation, in effect a false report, the agency is the victim, not the officer. It is up to the agency to file any criminal charges, not you. All you can do is sue the person who complained against you.
Now go back to looking at your picture books and have mommy change your diaper.
All of you idiots who keep saying "get a lawyer and file a civil suit", that's all fine and dandy but you're missing the point. The point of having someone charged criminally is to prevent other people from filing false complaints against other officers. That way working coppers don't have to keep answering to allegations which, whether true or not, will lead you into the BIS program.
Oh, and by the way...
Maybe you can file civil suits against the people in the district you work in and get some $$, but where I work, the assholes don't have a pot to piss in. Unless of course I want to sue them for their "22" inch rims, their Black and Milds, or their fucking "Roca-wear" t-shirt!! thanks but no thanks!
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I HAD AN INCIDENT LIKE THAT WORKING THE TRAFFIC CAR IN MY WEST SIDE UNIT. I ENDED UP PEPPER SPRAYING THE 300 LB BITCH AND THEN I DUI HER. BEST PART WAS THAT SHE SUBMITTED TO A URINE SAMPLE KIT AND THE RESULTS CAME BACK POSITIVE FOR COCAINE. CAN YOU SAY SUMMARY SUSPENSION AND DUI. BEST PART OF IT THAT I ALSO IMPOUNDED HER. YES SHE DID FILE A CR NUMBER BUT IT CAME BACK UNFOUNDED. LETS SEE WHO WON, SHE RESISTED ARREST SO I PEPPER SPRAYED HER, SHE WAS CHARGED AND CONVICTED FOR DUI AND HER RIDE WAS INPOUNDED , REMEMBER MY FELLOW OFFICERS JUSTICE THAT IS LOST IS THE JUSTICE THAT IS NEVER SERVED. STAY SAFE AND GOD BLESS AMERICA.
All the Iad guys I ever met were fair and responsible. We are all cops
But that bad Sgt. picked on me! My mommy never would do something like that. I'm telling on you.
TAKE HER ASS TO THE STATION, QUICKLY GET YOUR CB # AND DEFY THE W/C OR ANY OTHER BOSS TO RELEASE W/O CHARGES.
4/12/2007 11:47:00 PM
Of course she should be locked up, but you are an idiot. Defy the W/C. You're a real hero. I'll bet you'd do just that. Not to mention the lockup keepers would tell you to go fuck yourself if the W/C said to RWOC. You sound like a real moron.
Isn't this a lot like when you arrest someone for a charge you know will not stick just to put them thru hell?
The union would normally be able to help with this type of issue but they are currently tied up protecting the dumb ass cops who actually are grabbing tits and cracking heads. You can't expect them to have the time to protect you when you are falsely accused if you keep turning your heads and not policing your own. Give your partner a little dose of that Tazer the next time he goes to rape, rob, pillage or generally kick the shit out of someone for no reason and it will work out best for everyone in the end.
Protecting us from your own is part of the job you swore to perform.
I personally know of a copper in 015 who was accused of losing a dept. radio back in the late 90's . The copper took 5 days even though the evidence that he presented to them would of exonerated him, they (meaning IAD) rats would not let it into the hearing. Long story short he grieves it and gets all the time back.
Then about 3 months ago the sheriff's are evicting a copper and his wife from their home and what do you know the long lost radio appears along with a IAD radio. And you ask where did the copper work well lets take a guess? IAD. They stripped him and charged him.
The bottom line is who is policing IAD, if they come at you, ask for a lawyer I been round and round with them for other stuff which was nonsense.
They are rats and coppers who got caught up and need a place to hide.
You took IAD so you could work normal hours???
Shame on you.
The fact IAD works normal hours tells you that they are not interested in weeding out corruption, they are only interested in getting their "mover" or two so that they can keep their cushy jobs.
IAD is only for people who get jammed up and are given the spot to work it off, or for those who aren't good enough to find a decent job in the department and prefer to step over the bodies of their fellow officers to further themselves.
"If this story is true, there is a little problem most of you have overlooked. When a false report is made, YOU are not he victim of a crime. The AGENCY that the report was made to is the victim. It is up to the agency to pursue criminal charges, not you. Your only recourse is to sue and due to the nature of the case, it will wind up in small claims court. Get real here. You cannot sue the city, file EEOC complaints, or anything else. YOU are not the victim."
You are a wee bit off. The false affidavit is actually a state law that protects individual peace officers from FALSE accusations. The agency is never the victim. When a misd/felony complaint is signed by a peace officer he is acting as an agent for the state and is the complaining witness. There is no city ordinance that prohibits false complaints against the department. You can in fact make a case report for false police report. Acting as the agent/victim/complaining witness for the state name the IAD agent as a witness and the asshat as the offender. Go to the local branch court and swear out a warrant for said asshat.
Just another tool that needs to be used properly. Stay safe one and all.
Civil lawsuit against the female who lied on the affidavit and accused said officer!
Can't file a beef on IAD but you can take your evidence to a lawyer and sue the IAD officers for malicious conduct in the workplace and the Dept. in Federal Court!
Also can file a equal employment opportunity complaint against the dept.
4/12/2007 12:37:00 AM
Wrong you can not do any of this CPD is exempt. GOOD LUCK TRY IT
All of these great ideas about lawsuites and arresting her etc. But explain to me how your going to get that tape released from IAD in order to benefit a po, without that tape either somehow getting erased or lost somehow???
You are soooo right, The city has deep pockets their mob connected outside attorneys would love to make Millions. And that officer would be bankrupt.
What you're all missing. You'll never see an arrest made because to do so the dept. would have to use the audio tape as evidence against the complainant in a criminal case. But guess what the use of the audio tape would be ruled unconstitutional and then the complainant would turn around and sue us. I remember having a converstion w/ FOP lodge attorney who sat in on a meeting discussing the use of the video and audio. All were in agreement that the use of audio was unconstitutional, however the City took the position that it can't be unconstitutional if the language, admissions, etc. are never used against the person. In other words the dept's sole reasoning for using the audio is not to protect us but to protect the citizen.
Whoever this PO is, why hasn't he gone to the FOP?
Why hasn't he gone to the media?
You better believe I wouldn't roll ov
er like that
Oh right you wouldn't roll over bull shit.If you go to the media on any thing this dept will fuck over you big time.Retaliation is alive and doing fine on this dept any little thing you do they will get you and you will find yourself walking on egg shells. 99% of lawsuits that go before the Judges from police officers VS city of chicago gets shit caned summery judgement 1% get to court those are the ones you read about. ask FOP this why they don't throw money on cases they can not win.Daley has the judges in his pocket.
Ill labor relationsboard you can file on your own against the dept
NO NO NO they will not take complaints from CPD( Exempt)
All of these great ideas about lawsuites and arresting her etc. But explain to me how your going to get that tape released from IAD in order to benefit a po, without that tape either somehow getting erased or lost somehow???
YOU GET A PRIVATE LAWYER AND HAVE HHIM SUBPAEONA IT FOR A CIVIL SUIT.
4/13/2007 07:18:00 AM
How much money you got kid up front 10,000 to take the case then 2,000 a month to keep it in the courts for 7 years. Then you lose
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I HAD AN INCIDENT LIKE THAT WORKING THE TRAFFIC CAR IN MY WEST SIDE UNIT. I ENDED UP PEPPER SPRAYING THE 300 LB BITCH AND THEN I DUI HER. BEST PART WAS THAT SHE SUBMITTED TO A URINE SAMPLE KIT AND THE RESULTS CAME BACK POSITIVE FOR COCAINE. CAN YOU SAY SUMMARY SUSPENSION AND DUI. BEST PART OF IT THAT I ALSO IMPOUNDED HER. YES SHE DID FILE A CR NUMBER BUT IT CAME BACK UNFOUNDED. LETS SEE WHO WON, SHE RESISTED ARREST SO I PEPPER SPRAYED HER, SHE WAS CHARGED AND CONVICTED FOR DUI AND HER RIDE WAS INPOUNDED , REMEMBER MY FELLOW OFFICERS JUSTICE THAT IS LOST IS THE JUSTICE THAT IS NEVER SERVED. STAY SAFE AND GOD BLESS AMERICA.
Another war story. get a life tough guy
From one anonymous asshole to another:
Anonymous said:
You took the position for the pay and because you think you are doing the right thing not for the hours pal.
No, I said it before, I took the job for the hours, monday through friday, weekends off. I'm a sergeant, so I didn't get anymore money. Sorry to disappoint you, but a "normal" schedule of days with weekends off is good for the family, you don't like it, tough shit.
Anonymous also said:
Sorry but you are only fooling yourself. And no, I do not have 2yrs on the job. I have 10yrs all in southside districts, 2 in fact. Maybe you should go back to pushing a beat car and get back to reality if you do'nt like P.O.'s thinking of you in a high reguard because lets face it......you really are'nt our friends and you certainly are'nt the Police anymore if you ever were.
I got more time in a beat car than you got on the job, so don't try that shit on me. And for years on my days off I was working the projects in special employment, so I've been there, done that, no t-shirt! Being your friend? NO, can't say I'm your friend when doing an investigation, but then, I'm not your enemy either. Facts speak for themselves. I hope the facts support your exonoration or a finding of unfounded, but that's not always the case. Coppers get beefs and we know most of them are bullshit. Unfortunately there are still real beefs from real shit that some cops do.
Anonymous also said:
I do treat people with respect and fairness and I would also expect the same courtesy from IAD but like I said earlier, I highly doubt it.
Can't speak for others, but I always treated coppers with dignity and respect, even when I knew they were going to be fired. I only did the job I had to do. Facts speak for themselves. Whenever it could go one way or another, I always went the way for the copper. And on sustained cases, I always went for the minimum punishment. You don't have to hit people in the head to get their attention most of the time.
Anonymous also said:
Maybe you should take your head out of your ass or maybe you can drive a beer truck if you don't like it......I heard they make a decent living...
I realized going to IAD wouldn't make me any new friends, but those people who were my friends remained my friends, while I was there and after I left. I've met a few assholes while I was there, but most of the people are just doing the job. Nobody wanted to fuck over a copper. Coppers fuck over themselves when they do stupid shit.
A differant anonymous asshole said:
They are rats and coppers who got caught up and need a place to hide.
4/13/2007 09:03:00 PM
You sir/madam, have your head so far up your ass you can check out your own colon. Coppers who get caught up in shit are not put in IAD. We've had our share of assholes, but they get weeded out like everyone else.
I don't expect anyone to embrace IAD or not be suspicious when dealing with them, but I for one would rather have a copper investigating a complaint against me than some civilian. At least coppers realize the job and what it entails.
Now this beef that this entire thread is based on....the copper should retain a lawyer and sue the shit out of the lady. At least that's what I'd do. With the C.R. file already investigated, there is evidence for the civil case. I'm sure FOP would help push this, assuming this is a true story.
Now, is it a true story?
Fuck Genie Roy!!! -009 Days
4/13/2007 08:35:00 AM
Who the fuck made you the MORAL POLICE? So fucking what if he's bangin' some cop. He's an adult, so is she, they both know what they are doing. I’m not a fan of Roy either, but I could give a flying fuck less where he's sticking his dick. Grow up, become a little more secure in your manhood, and if he’s jockin your woman; good! You found out she’s a tramp! Get a good lawyer, get rid of her, get a girl half her age, and get some! If he aint sticking his dick in you or yours, leave the idiot be, he'll fuck something up some where down the line.
I.A.D. can not do any charges for the false report. It's not because they don't want to, belive it or not. It's because the city and the brass order them not to, they hold the strings.
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IAD is full of shit. They are bought by the bosses and politics. NO INTEGRITY!
The AGENCY that the report was made to is the victim.
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We are agents for the City and State DUH!
Every copper, for his / her own protection should record any event that they feel may put them into harms way.
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I agree! Bring it when you give your statements to IAD/OPS too. They have a tendency of changing reports when the bosses/politicians tell them to.
Good for the Lt out there writing tickets & going to court at time & 1/2. Take all the $ you can get.
He's doing his job... what's the problem? At least he's not out there harassing PO's who are trying to do their job. It could be worse ya know.
Freedom of information act - if the media can get it we can too .
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Yea Right. Try it! You'd be surprised how you get turned down trying to get something from the Dept; especially if it is involving a CR Investigation!
Was Amy M. driving his vehicle when Roy screwed over the off duty copper?
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Who did he screw over & for what?
IAD is only for people who get jammed up and are given the spot to work it off, or for those who aren't good enough to find a decent job in the department and prefer to step over the bodies of their fellow officers to further themselves.
4/13/2007 09:10:00 PM
You are either greatly misinformed or just a complete retard. I'm guessing a little of both. I defy you to name just ONE person who has worked in IAD in the last decade who is there to "work something off". That's not how it works, this isn't Hollywood. The first thing that is checked is disciplinary history and current investigations so that knuckleheads like you don't get in there. Even then, we've had a few goofs make it in and make our job even tougher.
IAD investigates complaints made by the people sitting in roll call next to you everday. They don't go out and proactively search out the mountains of petty snitch beefs they handle, but they can't ignore when those beefs are made. Now, who's the rat?
Not only that, but so many of you lie that it makes it really hard to give you the benefit of the doubt. You could be completely justified in whatever you are accused, yet you'll still come in and lie about it, then call IAD jagoffs for exposing the truth. Makes no damned sense at all! I've stopped more than few coppers from hanging themselves with bullshit and explained to them what I knew and that if they persist with the current story, they are going to have problems. Because of that, most of the FOP Attorneys know I'm not looking to hang anyone and I've helped everyone I could. But sometimes coppers are just stupid and that's not my fault. If you come at me with righteous indignation even when you know you are completely full of crap, guess what? Take your time and blame yourself. I didn't create the situation, I just have to clean it up.
I swear SOME of you whining about IAD are no different from the gangbangers who whine that the police put a case on them. Dirty as sin, but not man enough to take resposibility for your own actions.
A differant anonymous asshole said:
They are rats and coppers who got caught up and need a place to hide.
4/13/2007 09:03:00 PM
You sir/madam, have your head so far up your ass you can check out your own colon. Coppers who get caught up in shit are not put in IAD. We've had our share of assholes, but they get weeded out like everyone else.
That anonymous asshole was me and if it isn't true then you tell me why a goof (Corey Braddock) who I will name because he was fired from the job from IAD mind you. Why was he there? Well I will tell you MR. IAD rat because he stepped on his dick not once but three times.
The first time working in 015 shoots up a car with a mexican family in it along with a 2 month old baby, nothing happens thank God. But the interesting thing is nothing happens to him either why you ask well because he was Richardson's little guy.
The second time while currently assigned to 189 narcotics he gets caught off duty trying to pick up a whore on Cicero, in Cicero in a covert car but the only problem is that it's a reverse sting by the Cook County Sheriff's. Well once again they don't he gets lucky, but they let Eugene Williams who was then the commander know about it. How do they reward him they put him in 006. A short time later what do you know he gets put in the rat squad IAD.
The third time while working in IAD driving their car he tries to pick up another whore in the 23rd district, and once again it's a reverse but this time they do the right ting and pinch him. Well then he finally gets separated.
So the moral of the story is yes you have goofs down there who are rats and f***ups who need a place to hide until the dust settles.
BOTTOM LINE IS I OR ANY OTHER P.O. SHOULD NOT TRUST YOU RATS ONE BIT.
Speaking of rats hows the good Sgt. M.B. formerly of 650 who testified on another copper while in 019.
Okay...Lets not forget we are responsible for enforcing the laws. If a police officer fails or is aware of a violation of the law or department policy. Than the officers should begin by initiating a CR against the officer or member assigned to IAD. I believe that these officers are not immuned from violating department policy or state law. Let some of these CR's get filed. And you will see how this would change IAD conventional wisdom. Abuse of power is one CR that OPS handles. Turn the table on them.
This is going back about 10 years. But there is one thing I could say, alot of these "educated ppo's" definitely belong there. 5 guys on the hood and they stand there with their hands in their pockets looking up at the birds while I'm going through them. That's watching your back. This means they will make excellent backstabbers. Not all PPO's mind you, but enough of them. I've met some good ones.
4/12/2007 10:48:00 AM
10 years ago! You are still living in the past. Easy for veteran officers to attack PPO's. They leave the academy, thrown into a district without working FTO's. Or are provided with a 2year acting FTO who was never trained properly. What can you expect from PPO's? Current FTO's refuse to work with PPO’s and make arrests. PPO's must wait until probation has ended to be active on the street. Veteran officers ignore PPO's. Young officers have many horror stories about lazy FTO's and so called actors who refuse to work with them. Training SGTS and LTS who refuse to properly train PPO's. I remember 10 years ago when new officers were accepted and trained by veteran officers to make a real arrest and back up other officers. Current state of FTO program is embarrassing. Quit beefing and provide guidance for a new officer.
The post about Gene Roy screwing over the odpo is absolutely wrong. I happen to know the odpo was acomplete asshole and got what he deserved on account of Roy. It takes a real man to make aperson pay for his crime. If you're going to be drunk off-duty, then expect to be handled harshly when you are non-compliant with the rules governed by the street deputy.
-009 2nd Watch
009 is made up of losers and their DC is showing em how it's done. Grow up you panty waisted 35th St rejects! CPD wants real men and women out there. 009=Useless cowardly phone call fucks! I used to work at Lowe-I know. Funny how a clout filled district still has tons of scandal huh? Eat me Roy!
-FILLMO RANGER
got more time in a beat car than you got on the job, so don't try that shit on me. And for years on my days off I was working the projects in special employment, so I've been there, done that, no t-shirt! Being your friend? NO, can't say I'm your friend when doing an investigation, but then, I'm not your enemy either. Facts speak for themselves. I hope the facts support your exonoration or a finding of unfounded, but that's not always the case. Coppers get beefs and we know most of them are bullshit. Unfortunately there are still real beefs from real shit that some cops do.
You my friend miss the point IAD is an arm of the dept They are used to help the connected like Commander risley did for Miedzanowski. If in fact you are connected or a white shirt IAD will help spin what happened if not IAD will make you the scapegoat I know this as fact I have had complaints with those with juice and IAD covers it, yet when I was on my own look out! Can we say Jefferson tap
Just think about it boys and girls that bitch in IAD Ms. DK is actually being touted for Superintendent. The exempt in charge of the camera project is Chubbs AE of Administrative Service. Both being listed as possible Cline sucessors.
I hope I last till 2114 when I can put all these assholes and all this bull shit behind me.
New Idea! Let's have fun get your video cameras and phones reday and tape the alderho's, mayor and other jagoffs in action! SCC let's set up our own SCCTUBE and broadcast the shit they do! Some titles
a) A little money for my friends
b) Contracts what contracts?
c) I am a city boss lets drink and drive!
d) I have many police drivers fuck you watch me steal
e) Gang banging alderthieves in action!
What you're all missing. You'll never see an arrest made because to do so the dept. would have to use the audio tape as evidence against the complainant in a criminal case. But guess what the use of the audio tape would be ruled unconstitutional and then the complainant would turn around and sue us. I remember having a converstion w/ FOP lodge attorney who sat in on a meeting discussing the use of the video and audio. All were in agreement that the use of audio was unconstitutional, however the City took the position that it can't be unconstitutional if the language, admissions, etc. are never used against the person. In other words the dept's sole reasoning for using the audio is not to protect us but to protect the citizen.
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What about the police testomony which is backed by audio? Also, how can these tapes be used all over the rest of the nation to convict criminals?
Anonymous said...
A differant anonymous asshole said:
They are rats and coppers who got caught up and need a place to hide.
4/13/2007 09:03:00 PM
.....That anonymous asshole was me and if it isn't true then you tell me why a goof (Corey Braddock) who I will name because he was fired from the job from IAD mind you. Why was he there? Well I will tell you MR. IAD rat because he stepped on his dick not once but three times......
You answered your own question, asshat. He was connected to the hilt! I knew Corey and he was a foulmouth full of himself asshat.
Corey got caught up in a prostitution sting and embaressed not only himself and IAD, but the department as a whole. And when he went to trial, he lied through his teeth. Even the trial judge knew he was lying. THAT'S WHY HE WAS FIRED!!
Had he manned up and admitted what he had done, he would have gotten 30 days and been dumped. But he thought his clout was so strong he could do anything he wanted. Guess he was wrong.
As I said earlier, we've had our share of assholes, and he's the prime example, but they get weeded out.
I do feel sorry for you and your kind. As someone else said earlier, you sound like the pussy gangbangers who bitch about coppers putting cases on them. IAD is a reactive organization, the complaints they handle are involved and fucked up. I guess you think all complaints against police should just be shitcanned, cuz after all, we're all the police, right? Grow the fuck up.
As long as there are people in a position of power, there will be people who lie on them. That's what most complaints are, lies! But there are truthful ones out there, and they have to be investigated, like it or not.
So for your sake, I hope you get a Father Pfleger and Reverand Meeks organization to investigate you. You get what you wish for.
Than the officers should begin by initiating a CR against the officer or member assigned to IAD.
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Who's going to handle the CR? I tried contact IAD about an OPS investigator who changed a report. IAD referred me back to OPS. I even wrote to the Super. and asked for it to be investigated. No response. No offense, but get real!
Put more cameras on the cta buses pointing at the driver and out the front window. Come on, I dare you!
The city, the dept and IAD says "not to arrest a person for false allegations on a cr". What the fuck!!!! FOP, what are you going to do about this? probably nothing, like everything else.
Fuck the camera's in the cars. They can hurt you, more than help you. Always somebody going to critic you and your actions safely behind a desk. And jam you first chance they get. If the video catches the bad guy doing wrong, do you honestly think they will ever use that to prosecute a case in Crook county, I think not!!
Boys n Girls, Watch yourself. Go on the dept's computer and check out your training qualifications. Step on your dick and they will say, you took the class, you were briefed, when really you weren't. Watch your back...
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TAKE HER ASS TO THE STATION, QUICKLY GET YOUR CB # AND DEFY THE W/C OR ANY OTHER BOSS TO RELEASE W/O CHARGES.
4/12/2007 11:47:00 PM
Of course she should be locked up, but you are an idiot. Defy the W/C. You're a real hero. I'll bet you'd do just that. Not to mention the lockup keepers would tell you to go fuck yourself if the W/C said to RWOC. You sound like a real moron.
4/13/2007 06:33:00 PM
To the statement above: dude, if you're in the right and you were done right, hell yes, lock him or her up. right good paper, go by the law and if your sleepy, lazy, incompetant, dog ass w/c wants to release your offender without charges, stand up for yourself - call in a street deputy if you have to and document everything. If you loose the fight, document the times, statements, etc. So when the lawsuit comes down or a cr #, put it all back on them. You did you job and you got the shaft. Pay back is a bitch.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
A differant anonymous asshole said:
They are rats and coppers who got caught up and need a place to hide.
4/13/2007 09:03:00 PM
.....That anonymous asshole was me and if it isn't true then you tell me why a goof (Corey Braddock) who I will name because he was fired from the job from IAD mind you. Why was he there? Well I will tell you MR. IAD rat because he stepped on his dick not once but three times......
You answered your own question, asshat. He was connected to the hilt! I knew Corey and he was a foulmouth full of himself asshat.
Corey got caught up in a prostitution sting and embaressed not only himself and IAD, but the department as a whole. And when he went to trial, he lied through his teeth. Even the trial judge knew he was lying. THAT'S WHY HE WAS FIRED!!
Had he manned up and admitted what he had done, he would have gotten 30 days and been dumped. But he thought his clout was so strong he could do anything he wanted. Guess he was wrong.
As I said earlier, we've had our share of assholes, and he's the prime example, but they get weeded out.
I do feel sorry for you and your kind. As someone else said earlier, you sound like the pussy gangbangers who bitch about coppers putting cases on them. IAD is a reactive organization, the complaints they handle are involved and fucked up. I guess you think all complaints against police should just be shitcanned, cuz after all, we're all the police, right? Grow the fuck up.
As long as there are people in a position of power, there will be people who lie on them. That's what most complaints are, lies! But there are truthful ones out there, and they have to be investigated, like it or not.
So for your sake, I hope you get a Father Pfleger and Reverand Meeks organization to investigate you. You get what you wish for.
4/14/2007 08:36:00 PM
I welcome an investigation by the good ol Rev.'s , I do not put myself in that position. Oh and by the way tell everyone where your office is at in the 107th district at Victoria and Pulaski in the apartment complex. Oopps I was not suppose to say that!!!!
Anonymous said...
017 DIST SGTS
#3 PULLS OUT HIS LAZER AND POINTS IT AT PO .....
4/12/2007 01:41:00 PM
Anonymous said...
Nice job HW 017 Mids! You and fake hooters girl ran like little girls to jam that Sgt. up. Ball busting is ball busting. If you cant handle it quit. You let the pussie ruin you. You blow off jobs and are totally useless.
4/12/2007 12:38:00 AM
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Hmmm...are these two related in any way? I do not work in 017, nor do I know any of the parties involved, but all I can say is if the Sgt. did this then he/she should be held accountable. Also, further more, why would a Sgt. do this to a PO unless they had a chip on their shoulder or straight out did not like the PO. Ball busting is ball busting, and that's right get over it, but no one should pull out their weapons and point it at another without a valid reason. What if it was a gun, not a taser, would it make a difference? A weapon is still a weapon!
As far as the partner is concerned, if he/she was on scene and witnessed the incident then they have an obligation to tell the truth regardless if it's their partner or not. Further more, as far as an alleged "relationship" between the PO's who cares? It's not the first time, nor would it be the last in department history. Does it concern you in anyway, such as trying to get some in the past and you were shot down? Or are you just jealous because you are the one still stuck with a 300 lb., foul breath waste of space? From experience I have known PO's talking about others to be "blowing off jobs and are totally useless"...the ones making those allegations are those that are the laziest dogs.
Speaking of Braddcok...he was assigned to the Chief of Special Functions when the first "whore" beef hit him...he was then dumped to 006, and from there, finagled his way somehow into being assigned to the Area 2 Deputy Chief's office (working for then
D/C Noreen Walker...how'd he manage that?)...then, of course, the last beef snared his ass in good. But Braddock should never have been hired on the job in the first place. Guys that worked with him when he was assigned to Narcotics knew he had a lot of personal issues that should have come out during a REAL psychological examination. I won't go into details, but he grew up around a lot of drug abuse in the home, and had no business working it from the position of a narcotics investigator. The Dept. is a better place without Braddock, and I hope he's gotten himself some help he really needs.
BULLSHIT IS BULLSHIT, Like the 017th sgt would really tazer a po!
CRAP!! i work for good sgts and i have been painted with there lazer thing on a tazer and I laugh! Zap me and your buying the beer!!!!
Shit I got a greaT PICTURE OF MY PARTNER POINTING HIS GUN STRAIGHT AT ME AND THE PIC SHOWS THE BULLET STILL IN THE CHAMBER!!!
SO WHAT!!
THESE OFFICERS ARE COWARDS! AFRAID AND UNABALE TO HANDLE THE "JOB"!
They should worry about the asshole on the street that's goin to KILL THEM!!!
AND NO ONE WILL SHOW UP AND BACK THEM CAUSE THERE JAG OFFS
Does it concern you in anyway, such as trying to get some in the past and you were shot down?
Nice try kuntaday...I was never shot down. I go after women with real breasts. You and and lover boy are being watched very closely. We are just waiting patiently for you to screw up. And we all know that wont take much time at all. Admiral will always hire you back....and lover boy can be your body gaurd.
BULLSHIT IS BULLSHIT, Like the 017th sgt would really tazer a po!
CRAP!! i work for good sgts and i have been painted with there lazer thing on a tazer and I laugh! Zap me and your buying the beer!!!!
Shit I got a greaT PICTURE OF MY PARTNER POINTING HIS GUN STRAIGHT AT ME AND THE PIC SHOWS THE BULLET STILL IN THE CHAMBER!!!
SO WHAT!!
THESE OFFICERS ARE COWARDS! AFRAID AND UNABALE TO HANDLE THE "JOB"!
They should worry about the asshole on the street that's goin to KILL THEM!!!
AND NO ONE WILL SHOW UP AND BACK THEM CAUSE THERE JAG OFFS
You need some help! for our safety seek it.
To the former IAD hero who said give me a name of someone in the last ten years who got jammed up and is now in IAD to work it off--
Why only the last ten years? How about a Captain on days in 005?? How about a now sergeant who got jammed up in narcotics and ended up in IAD after a period in 003? How about a red haired M/1 who used to run protection for the dope spots in 002?
Why would a leopard change his spots? They still do it!! Perhaps now, they are not as blatant about it.
This is in regards to the comments about LC. I am a friend of the family and this will be the only time that someone will respond to such immature and inappropriate comments made by someone who obviously has no balls to leave a name. It is obvious that it is the same person who continues to write completely false statements about LC and you continue to get no response from people on this website. No one cares what u have to say except yourself. It is also obvious that you are JEALOUS of that family. They are well liked and well respected and u are jealous because u will never have that kind of respect because u put down others. When will u grow and mind your own business? You must be bored with your life and have nothing better to do than talk crap about someone else's family. People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Do u really believe that we dont know who u r? Can u say defamation of character? Life is too short to live your life by being jealous of others. Do u feel better now? Leave your name Sarg!
Can we start to pick on TRU? I just want to change it up a bit. Then this thread will rock!
Department Policy is to take all complaints, no matter what. The case will be unfounded in the investigation, due to the video tape.
The State's Attny should be contacted for charges, but they will not cooperate with the department on that.
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