Sharpton v Imus? Please
I watched the news for a few minutes just now with lunch, and I saw them talking about poor old Don Imus. He had a brain-fart and called the Rutgers women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos," and now he's doing what has been referred to as "an apology tour." And unbelievably, his first major stop is Al Sharpton's radio show, where he'll apologize to a man who encouraged black people to riot against Jews. In the riots, a Jewish man named Yankel Rosenbaum was dragged out of a car and killed by black rioters. Sharpton helped cause his death.
Is this really a person who is entitled to accept an apology from an accused bigot? Call me crazy, but wouldn't Oprah be a better choice? I'm not picky; just any black celebrity who hasn't caused any race riots. Gary Coleman would be fine. I'm not asking for much.
Al Sharpton supported Tawana Brawley when she claimed white policemen had abducted her. She later admitted the whole story was a lie. Sharpton continued telling the lie, and he was sued for it. He lost and refused to pay his victims. Now he's judging Don Imus for a lame joke made on the spur of the moment under the pressure of a live national broadcast.
Does that make sense to anybody?
We've got bigger problems in this country than Don Imus (who, along with Rush Limbaugh, we have NEVER listened to) making a stupid and badly timed joke. This is merely the "flavor of the week" for a vapid media and fodder for professional "class victims" like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to make a dime off of. Does anyone truly think that Al Sharpton has any legit standing in asking for apologies after all the crap he's put people through?
Note: Comments are going to be heavily regulated for this post - we've seen where this stuff goes sometimes.
Labels: media, silly people
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
52 Comments:
I commend you on holding off covering this for as long as you did. The whole scene is such fuckin' syndicated rerun that I can't even get it up enough to kvetch anymore.
Media nonsense. Even Roe Conn drank the Kool-Aid. Can't even listen to him after his one-sided, irresponsible coverage of the "police consipiracy" to bar the press in 025 and his refusal to consider the other side.
But its ok for these revends to have extra marital babies
(rev jackson). Or to refer to jews as Hiemies. Or for alderidiots to call us whities. But God forbid tell it like it is with them and yooz racist.
The biggest problem with this whole situation is that he apologized at all. He should have said, "I was making a joke, if you don't like it, don't listen. It wasn't racial and if you took it that way maybe you have the racial problem. Now fuck off, I have some pink elephants to fuck..."
Freedom of expression is dead in this country. The Constitution is only useful for toilet paper. It is a sad day when two avowed racists and anti-semites- Sharpton and Jackson- can get someone fired for humor in poor taste. Don Imus is a "shock jock". He is supposed to and is paid for his ridiculous, ribald, and distasteful remarks.
People like John Kerry, Rosie O'Donnel, Al Gore, Al Franken, and others have made distasteful comments, insulting comments, and even dangerous comments and they are rewarded. Imus makes a distasteful and funny comment and is fired.
Whether you like Imus or not, there is the issue of fairness here. Only certain people are allowed to have rights of expression in this country. The rest are relegated to the trash heap of hate.
MSNBC and its sponsors are cowards of the worst sort. CBS will follow shortly. Cowards!!
Lets see: Jessie Jackson tells a joke about "Hymietown" and has a child out of wedlock and yet NO ONE has the guts to talk about the hypocrate.
First of I would like to apologize to the African American Community for my comments. I am too busy to make the African American Apology tour so this will have to do.
The African American community has to cowboy up and quit being a whiney bunch of hypocrites.
Reverend Jesse "Where's the camera?" Jackson, an admitted adulterer, and Reverend Al "it is all white people's fault" Sharpton should look among the "stars" in their own community before reaching out to chastize any white person that may speak their mind.
The African American community will sit still and support the African American "Rap Stars" who "sing" about disrespecting, killing, and raping b*tches and ho's and treating women in general like pieces of meat. But heaven forbid Don Imus, an upper middle aged white guy who grew up with segregation, for making an off hand comment.
R Kelly, who is accused of having sex with an underage girl and videotaping it, "is a troubled man". He is an accused child molester. I have worked in African American neighborhoods most of my career and seen what a neighborhood can do to someone who is accused of molesting a child. But African Americans still line up for R Kelly's concerts and buy his albums and crap. I mean I understand the girl in the video will be a grandmother before the case ever goes to trial but this guy is walking around like a mafia don who is untouchable.
Reverend Meeks who video tapes a 20 minute sermon calling any African American who works within the system for the betterment of the community a "housen****r" repeatedly, yet the African American sheep flock to his church every week.
It seems to me that in the African American Community it is ok to be treated like crap from someone with the same color of skin but heaven forbid someone with a different tint speak their mind or make an off hand comment.
The African American Community needs to look in the mirror and the person without sin should be the only one casting stones.
While Imus' comment was not in good taste, everyone seems to have forgotten that the 1st ammendment of the Constitution gives him the right to say it. He did not violate any FCC regulation by using a word he wasn't supposed to on the air.
The way they are stringing up Imus, he would have been better off kidnapping and raping one of the Rutger girls. At least it would have gotten him less publicity.
Schiclegroover is right, this isn't news;but the rape/murders of Channon Christian & Christopher Newson IS!
Or how bout: www.wichita-massacre.com
this is just a sliver of a bigger problem and that is white guilt. since the early 60's whites have had the notion shoved down there throats that they should bear the blame for the blacks troubles. can you say re-education camps. a lot of these old hippies are now tenured professors in our colleges who perpetuate this vein of thought. imus himself is a child of the 60's who feels he must run to some shitbird like sharpton for absolution. the liberal media and that is 99 per cent of them know they have to keep fanning these flames or they to would be subject to being labeled insensitive or worse yet "a racist".
Don Imus, CBS and MSNBC now have an oppertunity to learn from Coca Cola, Toyota and Budwieser about how to deal with race hustling poverty pimps like Jesse and Al. First comes the apology. Then hire operation push to oversee a "diversity" program for your company. And then a "contribution" to their "church" or orgainization. But one thing remains constant. Their isn't a percieved slight to a black Reverand that can't be overlooked by lining their pockets. Only the Tribunes John Kass has the balls to point this out.
Thank you for this topic. It has bugged me for years that these two goofs, Al and Jessse, are made by the media.
I bet if it had been a black radio host saying something about a white, SCC would demand his firing. Hypocrite.
I can't believe whites cannot say anything and blacks can say anything...and get away with it!
Jesse"Hymietown"Jackson and Al"If the Jews want to get it on tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house"Sharpton are "SHAKEDOWN "snake oil salesmen,,,,,,,,,I leave out the words Reverand because they are a disgrace to any form of Christian belief and principle....they are in fact a joke......Sharpton is a racist of the highest order who sought to destroy a man during the Tawana Brawley hoax and who built his New York reputation on race hatred....that in 1995 resulted in a jewish store owners store being burned down by a black "Sharpton" protestor and 8 people killed.....both are race hustlers who pander to the Black community....that being said.......Imus was obviously not at his finest.....his attempt at humor crude and if anything he should apoligise to the women he insulted..........but for him to have to apologise to those two racist thugs,,, Sharpton and Jackson....he should have told those two to go fuck themselves.........these two race hustlers is why white people are disgusted and seperate themselves from the black community.....because the balck community will not seperate themselves from these two thugs........where is their(Jackson and sharpton) Camp for children??? Oh... thats right they don't sponser one...............Sharpton is too busy puting his "Love "donations from hard working people into his own pocket........I am disgusted by the whole media circus over this nonsense..............
From Michele Malkins column:
The No. 1 rap track is by a new sensation who goes by the name of "Mims." The "song" is "This Is Why I'm Hot." It has topped the charts for the last 15 weeks. Here's a taste of the lyrics that young men and women are cranking up in their cars:
This is why I'm hot
Catch me on the block
Every other day
Another bitch another drop
16 bars, 24 pop
44 songs, nigga gimme what you got . . .
. . . We into big spinners
See my pimping never dragged
Find me wit' different women that you niggas never had
For those who say they know me know I'm focused on ma cream
Player you come between you'd better focus on the beam
I keep it so mean the way you see me lean
And when I say I'm hot my nigga dis is what I mean
And people are pissed off at Imus???................Please.........Hey jackson go picket the record industries that produce this filth........or do you own stock???...........
Took this article from NYPD rant.
Good Read.
http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html
MUSCLECAR MOMMACITA said...
HE SURE SIDE STEPED THE DOUBLE STANDARD QUESTION WITH CATIE COURIC THIS MORNING SAYING," THE RAPE'ERS ARE COMMERCIAL ARTISTS WHO DO NOT WORK DIRECTLY FOR THE NETWORKS!
It shouldn't be news. as someone already stated, it was a joke, move on. Problem, we can't just keep ignoring every assinine thing these "reverends" pull. Wake up whitie, if you have a dick and are Caucasian, you are the target, you are the cause of every wrong through history and of all there are to come. Keep bowing down with your tail between your legs accepting all the blame thrown your way.
As far as i am concerned, Imus failed. He should have stood his ground and told sharpton to go fuck himself as hard as he fucks over his peoples. He should also have dedicated a show or two to the hypocracy of his media which ignors the negative behaivor of all races and both sexes when the offender isn't a white male.
Its the same old shit, like four hood rats that put that White kid in beverly into the hospital....no hate crime there eventhough they admitted picking him because he was White.
This city, county, and country are all so fucked up when it comes to this bull shit.
By the way, anyone see a picture of those "hoes" on oprah, they were all covered up from head to tow again. Guess they aren't so proud of those bangin' tats.
1. Imus is a racist, PERIOD. This isn't the first, fifth or even tenth racist thing he's said. I stopped listening to him in the '90s when I heard him far worse. He's got a pattern of behavior.
2. If anybody has the credentials to criticize Imus, it's NOT Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, an anti-Semite and an adjudicated libeler respectively. Having either of them as your arbitor of morality is like having Jeffrey Dahmer as your dietician.
3. Braindead gangster rappers and Don Imus are separate but related issues. If rappers using racial slurs justifies Imus acting in kind, do rappers doing drive-by shootings give Imus leave to shoot his rival Howard Stern? Stupidity cannot justify different stupidity... unless of course you're stupid. And as we all know, paraphrasing the state motto of Ohio, "With stupidity, all things are possible."
4. And no, Snoop Dog calling a Black woman a "ho" is NOT different from Don Imus calling a Black woman a "ho". It's the same thing, just in a different context. While one may debate whether it's apt to discuss their respective psychopathologies in the same sentence, rest assured that they are both psychopathologies.
5. Lowlifes and misogynists of all stripes will clumsily use Imus's latest pratfall to push their own sophmoric agendas. To a thinking person they, Imus, Sharpton and Jackson will all appear as clones formed by the same cookie cutter of stupidity.
Nobody said shit when Alderthief Troutman called all politicians/aldercreatures HO's.
OOOOOhhhhhh where was the fucking outrage then? poor Imus, bullied into believing his own comment was of racist meaning by the usual two-bit hustlers.
on a funnier note, the phrase "Nappy-Headed-Ho's" sounds like a fuckin kids game or doll collection. Who cares?......unless there's money or publicity to be made.
to 1:04am--I agree and couldn't have said it better. Imus has been saying shit like that his whole career--Admittedly he's a goof, but he always has been. I kind of got hooked watching him on CNBC--now what will I do? Let us not forget all the shit that comes out of hiphop "singers" and rappers mouths---Is that O.K.?
Typical white guy, apologize for words said. Beg like a dog on a ghetto radio station. It was only words.
The language used in these rap videos absolutely degrades all women.Most people know what I'm talking about. Yet those recording artists are looked upon as being so creative and are actually given awards. The whole thing makes me sick. If you are white you can't say shit. If you are black you can say anything you want. Why aren't blacks, other than Bill Cosby, protesting or speaking out about the lyrics that these songs contain? Where are you Father Phleger. (sp) Oprah, Jesse and the rest of you hypocrites? Just wondering.
Yesterday, Jackson was on Olberman's show. Olberman proceeded to tell him of all the others who have made desparaging remaks (Glen Beck etc.) but he sure didn't say a word about Hymietown to the Revs face. These are such coward bastards. Even O'Reilly has Sharpton on and never brings up his misdeeds.
I am only one person, but have decided to never again go into Staples, or buy a G. M. car or buy a proctor and Ganmle product. What were the other companies that knuckled under? It's my one person boycot.
Took this article from NYPD rant.
Good Read.
http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html
4/12/2007 11:53:00 AM
Thanks for that link.
Now that was a well written, must read article. But sadly, the article will only be read by a few. Have you ever seen a black person get embarrassed? I haven't.
Who gets to demand Jessie Jackson's resignation for his now infamous Hymietown comments? I also remember Jessie saying blacks needed guns to protect themselves against the police about 20 years ago. This was just after P.O.s Fahey and O'Brien were murdered. But Jessie and Al Sharpton get a pass in the media. What hypocrisy the media breeds.
tillman was aho with an arrest history, burnett was a convicted armed robber who did time but the white govenor expunged it so he could be alderthieve and rob the citizens of chicago thanks to jesse white burnett you got off, then we have a latino alderthieve that is a gang banger! this makes me sick! they should all be in prison GOD BLESS PATRICK FIYZGERALD PLEASE INDICT AS MANY AS POSSIBLE SOON!!
Jessie Jackson is the biggest extortionist in the US. Imagine boycotting Budweiser only to turn around and have your son become the proprietor of one of the biggest Budweiser distributorships in the country. Nice Jessie. Fuck you.
Sorry, "anonymous" (1:04AM), but
Imus SHOULD have apologized. What he said was reprehensible, and racially tinged, downright NASTY.
Having said that, Imus DID apologize, and this thing has taken on more of a life than it should have because IMUS HIMSELF has dragged this ugly mess out.
He made a public apology, and he should have gone underground for a little while, and this "brain fart" of his would have gone away.
Meeting with Sharpton was a mistake; if he wanted to meet with the Rutgers girls basketball team, and make a personal apology to them, fine, but don't put it all out there in the media. He could have done that days ago, privately, been off the air for a brief amount of time, and put this behind him...the fact that he is now FIRED is his own fault. I think he probably received bad advice on how to contain the brain fart. Not that I'm a fan of his, or even watch or listen to him regularly, but others have said and done far worse who are still on the waves.
SCC
You really should post the article by Jason witlock...his article is the most truthful to the point article I have ever seen....and thanks to the reader who pointed it out...http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html
I'm really glad that Imus got fired, not only for his comment on the Rutgers thing, but especially for the vicious attacks on President Bush and his staff.Imus constantly referred to President Bush and his staff as "WAR CRIMINALS" and they should be shot or hung. He was also arrogant and abusive to his own staff. Ex NYPD Bo Dietl is a mafia wannabe and a disgrace to the NYPD. If he was here in Chicago he would have been fired for fraternizing with members of the mafia."YOUR FIRED"
Tillman used to fuck truckers on Pershing Road in the Deering District. Now she is just fucking everyone she meets.
Look up her IR# if you don't think she's a real ho?
I know these are smart bloggers. Someone send me a list of all the compainies that pulled out on Imus. I really am going to boycott. It's my own personal protest. Won't do much good, but it will make me feel better.
maybe its time to get it done with, nothing will ever change unless we stand up and put a stop to it, and trust me it will not be a fiasco like Iraq.
The African American community has to cowboy up and quit being a whiney bunch of hypocrites.
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The way I see it, Blacks are digging a hole for themselves. How long do you think it will work to blame other people, no matter their race, for doing the same things they do?
How long will it work for some to blame society for not taking better care of yourself?
How long will it work for some to be racist to their own people first and then to whites and other races and blame it on "slavery"?
All Blacks are doing is perpetuating racism by making a big deal out of "opportune" moments. I'm not saying it is right or wrong, I'm just saying that all it does when you blow things out of proportion by pointing fingers at those who do the same as you - you continue to lose your credibility and whatever respect anyone would have for you.
You make people see that some of your race and some of your race's leaders are hypocrites. Eventually ... and this day will come, you will have no supporters since the media continues to be saturated with false allegations of racism. Sure this may not apply in the Imus case exactly but the biggest thing that stands out is the message that black media can destroy and disgrace their own race publicly but everyone must sit up straight if a white person does it too. That's crazy. That's just as crazy as blaming whites for "stealing" blacks from Africa when it was thier own leaders then too who sold them into slavery. Whites are not smart or powerful enough to steal millions of blacks. They were assisted by black leaders - Kings and Queens. Its nobody's fault to pay hundreds of years later. Come'on. Everyone in this whole world has been enslaved by someone else at some point in the history of this planet. Since that's the truth, let's call it even. Everyone can't settle the score with every race that ever enslaved them.
If there is a debt to be paid, it should be directed back to Africa and to the leaders families who are still alive. Hold hem accountable. Right - that makes just as much sense as it does to hold a company responsible for the way the world was. We don't live it that world anymore.
Get on with your life and stop using race as a crutch. Yes, it may be harder for blacks to move forward because of race - in some instances - but life isn't easy for anyone.
Live what you wish to experience and maybe things will change. In the meantime, hypocrites of any color are making enemies, making people not want to be around you because you'll make up a lie, creating division not unity. You're not changing society for the better. Try another tactic.
The one good thing that I can see coming from this mess is the appearance of actual black leaders....leaders who are not emerging from the bloated bodies of Sharpton and Jackson...the Rutgers coach was a woman of dignity and class.....and several black journalists called out sharpton and Jackson saying that they were not anybodys moral compass.....I applaud the black community for the common sense they have shown.........and although I have never been a big Imus fan....In that I felt he belittled people who he felt were not his intellectual equal....which I felt was snobbery......I applaud him for showing dignity in meeting with the Rutgers team and apologising for his words........
What is Jesse going to resign from??? He doesn't have a job.
Who gets to demand Jessie Jackson's resignation for his now infamous Hymietown comments?
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Resign from what?
Imus should have never apologized. He should have just let the chips fall where they may. Jackson and Sharpton would have still pressured the advertisers to pull out, but at least IMUS would have made a point. He is entitled to his opinion! Some people agree with him. Since when did our country adopt a cult like belief that everyone has to think the same way. I don't listen to WGCI because the program disgusts me. Nobody is being forced to listen to IMUS. If IMUS remained silent (not apologizing) maybe the advertisers would have realized that the people listening to him in the first place (their target audience) weren't upset enough to stop listening. Listen to Michael Medved or Savage Nation! I enjoy those shows! If I admit it will that somehow make me a racist? Will some cult like Reverand try to tell me how wrong I am? Oh well! I, and several million other americans, remain believing our beliefs in silent. Take CARE of your own and quit blaming anyone white, black, or red. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton make their living off defending the reason blacks act the way they do (as they claim). Ironically, Jackson's kids knew their limit. He wouldn't tolerate them acting like thugs. He got them set up in beer franchises, politics, etc. As soon as all blacks require their own to raise their children, and with expectations, Jackson will be unemployed. I work with some great blacks who have high expectations from their children. Guess what? Their children come through! Why? No EXCUSES! For some reason people are afraid of stating the truth. 90% of the crime is committed by 10% of the population! Unfortunately that 10% are almost all male blacks. Statistics prove this, but people don't discuss it! Confusing I know. Hell, even Barrack Obama claims he is black. He doesn't mention that the black father abandoned him and the white mother raised him and educated him. I guess Blackness will garnish the votes. Sad state our country is in! Although I will remain patriotic and loyal to the core!!!!!! I believe that eventually the truth must be faced or the income disparity will only increase.
Obama hasn't labelled himself as
"black." The media did. He has quite openly embraced his biracialism, something a lot of people who walk the streets everyday passing for white will never do. I know of several officers on this job who are of mixed racial heritage who are usually looked upon as white by their peers (due to their light skin and other "white" features) who have never acknowleged that they are 50% African American by birth, and probably never will.
And most people who are of mixed black/white heritage never write a book about it, as Obama did. But labelling him "black" keeps some from every considering him to be what many do, worthy of the White House. Many of the posters here will never cast a vote for the man, and are probably shocked that he has raised as much money as his organization has already in his quest to win the Presidency. Get over it!
4/14/2007 02:48:00 AM
Just look at stats make-up of county jail? State prisons? Oh no many black and latino! WHY? born and bread to be takers like jackson and sharpton meeks and so many more! If they don't get then they will riot or march! Why? They don't want to work just get free shit!
Ignore the liberal media. Exercise your freedom of speach rights guaranteed to you by the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights. Fuck the media pimps.
Sharpton, what a buffoon... A funny, funny, man to watch though.
Is that Imus guy sot of handicapped? He looks like he has backbone problems.
You wrote:
"I know of several officers on this job who are of mixed racial heritage who are usually looked upon as white by their peers (due to their light skin and other "white" features) who have never acknowleged that they are 50% African American by birth, and probably never will."
This is an interesting comment. I am biracial and on the job and while I can't speak for others like me, I find your comment narrow minded. Why? Because, being biracial, I get to see the worst of both races. The racism of white and black persons and frankly I am unimpressed. I get to view people for who they are and not their skin color because white and black both are capable of having very narrow minds. Neither raace is one I wish to subscribe to.
I am just me - biracial. I don't need to explain to anyone what my race is unless they are curious and ask. I don't think anyone goes around saying what their race is. Just because I am biracial doesn't mean that I should state that each time I meet someone so they can feel better about which "group" I belong in. Its 2007 not the 1800s. Why perpetuate racism by catering to those who wish to classify. That's a hilarious waste of time. Obviously Barack feels the same way.
There was no "DIGNITY" in Imus "apolizing for his (hurtful) words," and "meeting with the Rutgers basketball team." That's just what he SHOULD have done to clean up his own MESS.
There was no "DIGNITY" in Imus "apolizing for his (hurtful) words," and "meeting with the Rutgers basketball team." That's just what he SHOULD have done to clean up his own MESS.
4/15/2007 03:53:00 PM
Imus showed alot more dignity than Jackson who has admitted to spitting in white peoples food to get back at "them"and called New York "Hymietown"or Sharpton who started race riots in Harlem and ruined a man over the falsely reportd rape of Tawanda Brawley.......by comparision Imus has shown alot more dignity....and as fucking rich as that man is he could have told everyone to go fuck themselves...and not apologised for anything.........like so many others......
In a 1969 Life Magazine interview, Jackson said that when he worked as a waiter in a Greenville, South Carolina restaurant, he would spit into the soups and salads of white customers. "[Spitting into the food] gave me a psychological gratification," Jackson said.
And this is the man who called for Imus to be fired??
Poor Jesse Jackson
Jesse Jackson has a heart attack and dies. He immediately goes to hell, where the devil is waiting for him.
"I don''t know what to do here" says the devil. "You are on my list, but I have no room for you. You definitely have to stay here, so I''ll tell you what I''m going to do.
I''ve got a couple of folks here who weren''t quite as bad as you. I''ll let one of them go, but you have to take their place. I''ll even let YOU decide who leaves."
Jesse thought that sounded pretty good, so the devil opened the door to the first room.
In it was Ted Kennedy and a large pool of water. He kept diving in, and surfacing, empty handed. Over, and over, and over he dove in and surfaced with nothing. Such was his fate in hell.
"No" Jesse said. "I don''t think so. I''m not a good swimmer, and I don''t think I could do that forever."
The devil led him to the door of the next room. In it was Al Gore with a sledgehammer and a room full of rocks. All he did was swing that hammer, time after time after time.
"No, I''ve got this problem with my shoulder. I would be in constant agony if all I could do was break rocks all day," commented Jesse.
The devil opened a third door. Through it, Jesse saw Bill Clinton, lying on the floor with his arms tied over his head, and his legs restrained in a spread-eagle pose. Bent over him was Monica Lewinsky, doing what she does best.
Jesse looked at this in shocked disbelief, and finally said "Yeah, I can handle this."
The devil smiled and said . . .
( this is priceless )
"OK, Monica, you''re free to go."
Why is it "Dullton" allows the rap music to say things like "kill the police" they even used the words"nappy heads" and"Ho's" Is this guy fro real? I think it's time for the white man to stand up to these "BBB" (big black bigets) after all they are teaching our kids to be more confused.
If I buy a rap CD whose songs have the words... niggers and ho's and bitches... and so forth... can I sing the songs outloud if I'm white??? Can I sing along driving in my car??
Signed,
Confused
hey white guys and gals..and other sane people! all you need is:
1. Unity and numbers
2. An intelli(gently) written letter to the Trib Op-Ed and the Reader (dare them to publish it for the latter)
and when it all fails, flood the Sun Times with all your postst from here.
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