Friday, July 20, 2007

This Changes What Now?

We're still looking at this OPS revamp. Here's what we can gather:
  • An outsider has been named to head the "new" agency. This is Daley's gesture to "outsider" appointments and breaking the "insider" charges. Since he's covered that base, the new Superintendent will be a local inside guy.
  • Daley is now part of the process. The superintendent, who is a Daley appointee and serves at the pleasure of the mayor, is still part of the process. And the Police Board, which is appointed by Daley, remains part of the process. It looks a lot like Daley just interjected himself into the process a little more closely.
Local ambulance chasers are outraged, so that's a good thing. Coverage at Channel 2, Channel 7, the Tribune and the Sun Times. Opinions?

The Trib article has this humorous line:
  • The City Council, flexing newfound muscle, pushed to strengthen the measure beyond Daley's original proposal and approved it by a vote of 48-0.
How is voting unanimously for something Daley wanted and making him an integral part of the process "flexing newfound muscle"?

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82 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anybody ever been to a City Council meeting? The only thing there is a mutual ass kissing society.

The meetings are beyond belief. So let me give you a rundown on how it goes. Mayor wants it, Mayor gets it.

7/20/2007 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ted for mayor!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_QjEL0uUgo

7/20/2007 01:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
ANY TRUTH TO THE RUMOR OF A BIG VICE INDICTMENT COMING SOON? SOMETHING WITH PROSTITUITION?

7/18/2007 11:10:00 PM


From another post,what is this about? I have heard absolutely nothing.

7/20/2007 02:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am willing to wager that,Los Angeles attorney Ilana B.R. Rosenzweig OPS's new chief administrator will last less than one year in the position.

Da Mayor made a brilliant strategic move by bringing in an outsider to clean up the mess. With all the upcoming scandals about to surface "the outsider" will delegate discipline, insulating Da Mayor from the fallout.

OPS will now be tasked with many of the "dirty jobs" removing the Superintendent from the fallout too.

After the mess is sorted through and the house is considered clean she will leave Chicago with a major resume enhancement and the title of "Reformer of the CPD"

This little arrangement also appeases the community groups and the leftist anti-police crowd. They now have an "independent outsider" metting out discipline.

Expect an announcement of the new Superintendent shortly. A further deluge of exempt retirements and an entire restructuring of the CPD.

It is definitely a transitional time to be a Chicago copper.

Cummulatively totalled, this could be as big as Mayor Richard J. Daley's O.W. Wilson.

SCC,
You are right on the money with your theory.

7/20/2007 02:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If that douchebag Flint Taylor is mad, must be a good thing.

Rot in hell shitbag.

7/20/2007 02:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

*************IMPORTANT*************

Someone previously posted about the survey being conducted by the University of Illinois at Chicago on police services and community input. This survey is being prepared for the Chicago Police Department and is asking for specific input on where you live, it is annonymous.

I strongly encourage every copper,family memeber,friend,etc to immediately do this survey in its entirety. This is our chance to demand police services in our neighborhoods.

It takes approximately 10 minutes to complete and it is very important. This survey will be used as the basis to allocate manpower,department resources,and to eliminate police officers jobs.

Some of the questions asked are do you support placing highly visible flashing blue light cameras in your neighborhood,do you believe they reduce crime,do you believe they lower property values,do they make your neighborhood seem dangerous,do they lower property values,etc? police cameras are a complete waste of department money that should be utilized to hire additional officers,they are unsightly big brother invasions that lower property values and make your neighborhood look ghetto. Adequate officers on patrol does the job quite effectively.

They ask questions about police conduct and trust, do police officers abuse their authority,are they effectively disciplined,etc. We all now the answers.

They also ask about having citizens submit police reports via the internet,get the picture? I pay taxes and want an officer at my house when a crime occurs. They will use these stats to mandate people do their own reports online thus reducing the need for officers and police jobs. Think about this, don't fall for the lazy idea of this is great,it is your job security.

Most importantly they ask should police officers be sent from your neighborhood to higher crime areas to help out. They want to drain further police officers from 008,022,016,020,019,etc. and send them to the ghetto. This is unreal,please take this survey and read between the lines. This is being utilized to justify lower manpower in lower crime areas where we reside.

SCC,please make this a complete post and encourage everyone to take this survey and email this to all their friends,family,neighbors,etc.

The FOP and PBPA need to get this posted on their websites and newsletters so that we can insure maximum participation and get our viewpoint incorporated into this.

It literally takes a few minutes to do and it affects your job and quality of life. We have been collectively affecting positive change working together and putting words into action. Step up to the plate and take care of this. You will be quite pissed off at the end of the survey realizing what they are attempting to justify.

7/20/2007 05:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

UIC Survey Website:
http://survey.cc.uic.edu/communityend.htm

7/20/2007 05:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe that no one has mentioned the Police Board as being a bigger part of the problem. They overturn many of the findings of disipline found by OPS/IAD, but are somehow spared the public scrutiny. If the public, as well as the P.O.'s, only knew how many wife beaters have had cases overturned by this poitical hack squad, there would be an outrage.

I'm no friend of OPS/IAD by any means, but as usal, there is a major gap in this "news" story! Someone take a look at the Police Board cases for the last few years...by someone I mean one of the reporters salivating over this site every day.

7/20/2007 05:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

from the Trib:

Northwestern's Bowman said the biggest flaw in the new ordinance is language acquiescing to Fraternal Order of Police contract provisions that give officers a variety of protections that limit administrative investigations of their conduct.

The measure "continues with the disciplinary process that is subject to the collective bargaining agreement," he said. The city could have taken a hard line on such provisions because the contract expired at the end of June, Bowman said.

"We sort of had a perfect storm of scandal and the expiration of the union contract," he said. "But they completely knuckled under and the ordinance is all clearly subject to the collective bargaining agreement."
--

Read it again.

He we have a NU **lawyer** advocating breaking contractional law!

7/20/2007 07:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From the Trib:

Andre Grant, a member of the search committee and an attorney who has sued the city in police abuse cases, praised her.

"The most impressive thing is that she has done this before," Grant said. "She is sincere, she is honest, she is intelligent, she is aggressive."
--

He's a great source!! a street lawyer that makes a living bilking the tax payers. I bet he hopes he can get a new Cadi out of this....

7/20/2007 07:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OPS is relocated to City Hall.

Squad cars will NOW BE TOWED if you have to give a statement.

STOP doing police work now!!!!

Collect your check. take care of your own. Fuck these liberal scumbags.

7/20/2007 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley is the greatest Mayor this city has ever had!

7/20/2007 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who's this former(retired?)PO thats making comments about this overhall? That daley shouldnt be in charge.
The whore media is introducing him as the husband of the 1st female killed on the job.
Isnt it true that she was killed making a dope buy on her DAY OFF?
And that tons of political/racial juice was called in to change the sheets to put on duty so she could be made into a hero?

7/20/2007 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Mayor can propose an ordinance and the City Council can approve it but the Union still has the upper hand.

Disciplinary matters are controlled by the contract and "past practices".

The Department attempted to make changes in the way disciplinary investigations are conducted in 1997 and the Union demanded expedited arbitration. The arbitrator ruled in favor of the union and barred all of the attempted changes.

Harold Kunz stated, in the news letter, it was the "greatest victory that the Union ever had over the Department" and he was correct.

This is why the Union has had nothing to say regarding the current discussion in the media.

7/20/2007 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That survey link doesn't work!

7/20/2007 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The working cop is so f*cked.....me being a do nothing dogass laughs to the bank every 1st and 16th....woof woof !!

7/20/2007 10:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CAPS administration has a huge and embarrassing problem coming over the Federal horizon.

7/20/2007 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you say Connected to the Mayor and you get a pass that we know. Yet the rest of us will be fucked for minor things.

7/20/2007 10:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you want reform we need to start with City Hall.
TERM LIMITS are a must. We have a Mayor who is like a King. Nobody cross' him. That's not good government. That's a dictatorship. Then the Alderman are absolutely useless. They voted themselves raises. How can this even be possible, but yet the People are so indifferent they let it happen.
How can we real expect any kind of sincere reform in a city that is run by lemmings.

7/20/2007 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Chitty Council Member said...

Newfound muscle, of lips being puckered against asschecks!

*SSSMMMOOOCCCCHHHHH*

7/20/2007 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We already have a glimpse of how Daley will handle OPS. Remember the Meeks incident. He wanted that Sgt. sent to Siberia.
Knee jerk reaction from a jerk.

7/20/2007 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The new sup will be the outsider...........this will cut the reverends and aldermans clout..............erase any and all questions of Daleys sincerity in changing the police department.......I for one am looking foreward to it............now maybe just maybe the truly deserving will get some recognition.....you shouldn't be making rank cause your someones kid...toy....black...hispanic....clouted up to some reverend or alderman...........sorry guys its just how I feel about it...........and I'm a old timer

7/20/2007 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is with the Mayor making a Compliance Office? Is he pushing the Inspector General's Office out, especially since now they have an audit team and some very good people that can finally make a difference??? The IGO finally learned to hire outsiders from different states with brains and guts. And now they Mayor wants to diminish that?

7/20/2007 12:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That link for the survey doesn't work. Try again

7/20/2007 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the new and improved OPS will have "subpoena power."

I know what a subpoena is but what exactly does that mean?

7/20/2007 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look daley is lord over the council and he is the king of shitcago he will fuck every copper and will let the new 38 year old hottie do it! At least she looks more presentable than that bond goof! BE CAREFUL GET A PENSION SUPPORT YOUR FAMILY CPD IS NOW JUST LIKE A FACTORY JOB PICK UP YOUR BOXES NAD THEN GO HOME ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED YOUR HEAD EXAMINED IN DALEYS CROOKED CITY!

7/20/2007 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a thought, Daley wants the authority to fire cops, he should also take the responsibility.

Let’s say he fires a cop, SUE THE PRICK!

I have sat on Complaint Review Panels and I think that the brass chain of command must not read the reports from the Office of Political Standards. Several times I have read reports submitted to the panel and as I go along think this should be EXONERATED come to the end and see SUSTAINED! What, the facts don't support the finding; I wanted to call in the O.P.S. investigator into the room and call him a liar to his face.

Well if Daley does not (cannot) read all those reports and makes life changing decisions. SUE THE PRICK, tie him up giving depositions, ask him if he received a phone call from Alderman or Reverend so-and-so.

We need to flex our political muscle, God help us more than ever if we don't.

7/20/2007 12:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe that no one has mentioned the Police Board as being a bigger part of the problem. They overturn many of the findings of disipline found by OPS/IAD, but are somehow spared the public scrutiny. If the public, as well as the P.O.'s, only knew how many wife beaters have had cases overturned by this poitical hack squad, there would be an outrage.


Get your facts right, The only Officers they help is those with the juice other wise your fucked.

7/20/2007 01:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This little arrangement also appeases the community groups and the leftist anti-police crowd. They now have an "independent outsider" metting out discipline.

7/20/2007 02:05:00 AM

You must be smokin' dat caine if you think this will appease the police haters. Haven't you been watching the news? They're all pissed.

7/20/2007 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I HAVE 16YRS AND I INHERTED ALLOT OF MONEY YEARS AGO. I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT, ALL I CARE ABOUT IS DOING JOB AND HELPING OTHER P.O.S IN A 10-1. AFTER I GET MY 20YRS IN NAPERVILLE.ILL HERE I COME.

7/20/2007 02:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
ANY TRUTH TO THE RUMOR OF A BIG VICE INDICTMENT COMING SOON? SOMETHING WITH PROSTITUITION?

7/18/2007 11:10:00 PM


From another post,what is this about? I have heard absolutely nothing.

7/20/2007 02:03:00 AM

Why do you post this rumor every couple of months? The OCD vice guys are a good bunch, I guess you are just upset that they are taking away all your free blowjobs. You should be the one getting indicted. Vice OCD guys you are welcome in 011 anytime...

7/20/2007 02:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cant acess the uic survey, what gives?

7/20/2007 04:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is what we should do do not write anymore parkers dont be an idiot dont give this mayor all he wants STOP WRITING PARKERS

7/20/2007 04:57:00 PM  
Anonymous fig newton said...

Sometimes, I think I'm a fruit.

7/20/2007 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The CPD is in flames,crashing and burning. Time to retire and enjoy the good life,goodluck boys and girls....

7/20/2007 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

. . . Someone take a look at the Police Board cases for the last few years...by someone I mean one of the reporters salivating over this site every day.
7/20/2007 05:51:00 AM
##################################
Yeah, and WHO appointed the Police Bd.?

7/20/2007 05:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will the Sergeant's continue to investigate the vast majority of CR Numbers?? No one has mentioned that!

7/20/2007 06:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Female P.O. Dorelle and her team from 003 (-- including Dan L. from 009 - since fired), went out to 005 - 20+yrs ago - to rip off a dope dealer -- it backfired and left her dead under a kitchen sink.... Everyone in Area 2 and 005 knew it was a white wash -- but went along with it to avoid a scandal..

30 year veteran -- who was on scene that night..

7/20/2007 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will the Sergeant's continue to investigate the vast majority of CR Numbers?? No one has mentioned that!

7/20/2007 06:07:00 PM

The media and the public still believe that OPS and IAD actually investigate all complaints. The reality is that 90% of complaints are investigated by the accused officers' own supervisors. For years, the Dept has lied in its Annual Report, claiming that the investigations handled by the officers' own supervisors are handled by IAD. All of the Annual Reports are available on line. Take a look.

The IAD people are just guys with a "spot," doing as little as possible and laughing at the rest of us "chumps."

7/20/2007 09:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Female P.O. Dorelle and her team from 003 (-- including Dan L. from 009 - since fired), went out to 005 - 20+yrs ago - to rip off a dope dealer -- it backfired and left her dead under a kitchen sink.... Everyone in Area 2 and 005 knew it was a white wash -- but went along with it to avoid a scandal..

30 year veteran -- who was on scene that night..

7/20/2007 07:44:00 PM

Dan L.'s only involvement was that he was the first officer on the scene. He was working CHA special employment that night. Get your facts straight.

7/20/2007 09:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lukensmeyer was never fired dirtbag! He was a GOD in 009 and you should bend at the knee in complete reverance when you speak about him on this blog.

-009 Dist coppers

7/20/2007 09:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Female P.O. Dorelle and her team from 003 (-- including Dan L. from 009 - since fired), went out to 005 - 20+yrs ago - to rip off a dope dealer -- it backfired and left her dead under a kitchen sink.... Everyone in Area 2 and 005 knew it was a white wash -- but went along with it to avoid a scandal..

30 year veteran -- who was on scene that night..
-----------------------------------

Who cares?

Maybe we should bring up the whole E.L. shooting with his crew ripping dope dealers in 007.

Let sleeping dogs lie.

7/20/2007 10:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe that no one has mentioned the Police Board as being a bigger part of the problem. They overturn many of the findings of disipline found by OPS/IAD, but are somehow spared the public scrutiny. If the public, as well as the P.O.'s, only knew how many wife beaters have had cases overturned by this poitical hack squad, there would be an outrage.

I'm no friend of OPS/IAD by any means, but as usal, there is a major gap in this "news" story! Someone take a look at the Police Board cases for the last few years...by someone I mean one of the reporters salivating over this site every day.

7/20/2007 05:51:00 AM

This poster hit the nail on the head, think about this, out of all the department members who have actually been fired, how many have actually stayed fired? How many have been given back pay and their job back by the police board? I am talking about people who were actually involved in situations/crimes/behavior that they really don't belong on the job... I realize there are those who get accused and should not be fired, but it seems to me that of the few that do receive the penalty of actual separation, most of them eventually find their way back on the job, maybe 1% of those who get fired stay fired, and maybe that is a high estimate, I don't know...

7/20/2007 10:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is with the Mayor making a Compliance Office? Is he pushing the Inspector General's Office out, especially since now they have an audit team and some very good people that can finally make a difference??? The IGO finally learned to hire outsiders from different states with brains and guts. And now they Mayor wants to diminish that?

7/20/2007 12:19:00 PM

The Mob controls this city, and your Mayor Daley is a made man.

7/20/2007 11:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let’s say he fires a cop, SUE THE PRICK!



Question! Mr how are you going to do that, I though you hate all the scumbag Lawyers. Oh I get it only if you need us.

7/20/2007 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well if Daley does not (cannot) read all those reports and makes life changing decisions. SUE THE PRICK, tie him up giving depositions, ask him if he received a phone call from Alderman or Reverend so-and-so.

We need to flex our political muscle, God help us more than ever if we don't.,

Really sue the prick. How much extra cash do you have on hand maybe for starters 250,000 for the first couple of years then the Judge throws it out at the summery. You must be out of your mind Officers have tried to sue the city for numerous acts of wrong doing, Maybe one every 5 years will win. Give me a break. The Mayor loves it when he gets sued that way he can give our tax payers money to a private law firm of one of many FRIENDS.

7/20/2007 11:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of 009, aren't they the district that has the B team going. What is that anyway? And do they really use all the rapids from 3rd watch for it. Sounds like that blows for the beat guys.

7/21/2007 01:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

here we go with the 009th district b.s.. a bunch of whinners and losers who have nothing better to do then air their dirty laundry on this site. i used to think the tru unit or 008th district took the trophy home for the biggest tampons but 009 as always inserts foot into mouth.betwen the b team, 0r purple shades, or lack of manpower, or now lukensmeyer being a god...you guys are a bunch of idiots...

7/21/2007 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous 7/20/7 8:59am said...

to 7:44pm Thanks, I never knew she was in another district ON her day off!
10:11pm sez "who cares"
I brought the whole thing up because the husband seems to be anti-Police, w/his comments about these reforms not being enough to police US. He should keep his f*k'n
mouth shut!
As someone who was a PO in 015, while R.M. was selling drugs w/the approval of the stupidintendent(last king of Scotland),dc,tac lt,& head of IAD; I find these ghetto coverups just dispicable.

7/21/2007 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO Who Cares:

I posted that about Dorelle and I don't care, I was part of the cover up -- but now, 20 yrs. later to have her CTA police husband get on the T.V and pontificate about the evils of the CPD is bullshit. He opened the door. People remember what happened that night. Tell that asshole to let it lay. I can name several other P.O's killed in the line of duty -who were involved in illegal activities at the time of their deaths, they were afforded full honors. I don't have a problem with that. Their spouses never went on the t.v. bashing the Police.

7/21/2007 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go to work.

Answer your calls.

Nothing else.

Then go home.

If you do nothing...there is nothing to look at.

Wake up boys n girls. We could embarrass the hell out of daley.

And now is the time with all the olympic nonsense.

We as coppers are self destructive. We give this city and the media every tool they need to hate us and screw us over. WHY?

Answer your calls. Come clear when you finish. Write paper for everything. And dont give them the revenue.

If the Captains and so on down the line start meesing with your start times etc..

Document and involve the fop. When they fail....EOC complaint and a shotgun lawsuit.

Im tired of this crap. Lets win for a chane.

7/21/2007 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Outsider Supt. will re-align the disticts.

7/21/2007 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The whore media is introducing him as the husband of the 1st female killed on the job.
Isnt it true that she was killed making a dope buy on her DAY OFF?
And that tons of political/racial juice was called in to change the sheets to put on duty so she could be made into a hero?

7/20/2007 08:59:00 AM

The truth is actually uglier then that.Its a story better left burid in the past.

7/21/2007 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Lukensmeyer was never fired dirtbag! He was a GOD in 009 and you should bend at the knee in complete reverance when you speak about him on this blog.

-009 Dist coppers

7/20/2007 09:33:00 PM

If he was a "GOD" why did he resign in disgrace after being found to have a STOLEN unmarked squad car in his back yard? A car that had some of his personal possessions in it?

7/21/2007 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

since Daley is now part of the process does this mean that he can be sued for punitive damages personally along with OPS for false/unproven/improperly investigated complaints against officers? I believe this would now be legal. Does anyone with a law background know?

7/21/2007 02:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

take your time doing things and get help or supervision if you are in doubt. You will definately be hung if you make a mistake, or wrong decision in this political climate here in Crook County. Be Safe, Be Careful, and dont forget to CTA.....

7/21/2007 02:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

009 has always been the district of "entitlement" in the eyes of it's coppers and bosses. It is probably the most political district in CPD as well.
I believe the "dirty laundry" airing is way for working police to gripe and get things that are bothering them into the open? As long as it doesn't hurt anybody, then who cares?
009 never has any openings, so it cannot be too bad. You NEVER see officers trying to get out of 009, so that says a lot for the bosses there.
B team, Luke, purple shades, Sarge Hitney, etc are the officers/and their stories of 009. 009 is and will always be the cream of the Southwest Side. Ask any recruit what the most sought after district is and they will unanimously state 009. 009 is #1. Go Sox!

-Days in 009

7/21/2007 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One might assume that 009's b team could change the way things are in the 10 sector? Not going to happen. The b team is about clout and who drinks with so and so...The real workers are getting bored in the 30 sector. Truth!

7/21/2007 04:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

True, Lukensmeyer WAS considered a God. Lots of arrests, and court, even for a middle aged guy. But that ended when the stolen squad from Chicago and the drugs were recovered from his summer home. He is yet another example of a good guy gone rogue cop. Sadly, he wasn't the first, and won'r be the last.

7/21/2007 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous 8:59am said...

to 10:52am
Yea, thats okay w/me to "let that dog lie dead". Just get the word to that banger-cop old man of hers
to keep his activist trap shut. Didnt that HILL broad retire? Maybe he can hookup w/her.....

THE RICK MILLER STORY
(they're casting just as we speak)
Forest Whitaker has already signed!

7/21/2007 07:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I for one will take 022 over 009 ANY DAY!!!

7/21/2007 10:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lukensmeyer might have been a "God" twenty years ago, but his ego got too big and he thought he was above the law. Just like Finnegan and his crew. He thought he was too smart to get caught by the Police. To avoid a whole shit load of scandals -- including armed robberies -- he was allowed to quit. He was a piece of shit in his later years.

7/21/2007 10:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe some of you asshold pricks spreading out and out lies about Dorelle Brandon. I was probably one of the last PO's to see Dorelle before she went out on that buy & bust with her partner, Clarence Keith, who shot her by accident when the she was struggling with the dope dealer over her guy, and Danny Lukensmeyer and Ronnie Condreva who were steady partners at the time. It was not their day off, but was at the end of their shift since we were all working 3rd Watch tact at the time. There was nothing criminal about anything they did, just stupid at worse, because their informant was the sister or cousin of the drug dealer and she gave Dorelle up. Back in the day, tact teams regularly went outside their districts acting on tips to put in a buy and then bust the dealer. It was after she was shot that they instituted rules requiring noticiation to the W/C of the district of occurance. Within 2 days after the incident, Danny and Ron were transfered out the District, Danny to 009 and Ron to 008. CK was on suicide watch for months and still isn't right. He lives with this every day of his life. As for Matt Brandon, he life and that of his children were profoundly and forever impacted. There were many stories flying at the time of the shooting and its was incredible how many coppers would rather believe that these 4 PO's were engaged in some kind of illegal conduct than that something terrible had simply happened. What happened was a tragedy and as much the product then of a poor supervision or a lack of supervision as exists right now. If you analyze many of the incidents that occur in which a PO is killed or injured, you will find the common denominators of fatique, inattention, inexperience or the taking of shortcuts.

7/21/2007 10:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.trueheroines.com/slideshow/slide46.html

For all of you interested in what really happened the night Dorelle Brandon was killed.

7/21/2007 10:56:00 PM  
Anonymous 8:59am said...

to 7/21/07 10:56pm

Thanks for your input. I never cared why they went over there;he was a bad guy and THEY decided to take him out. The audio(of your website) sez that the jury didnt convict the dealer of her murder,just drug charges(nuf said).
And this is in the early 80s when the Police ruled!

THE RICK MILLER STORY
The actor ADOLPH CAESER(he played in "A Soldier's Story) has signed to play SANFORD"sanfish"NEAL 015 DC during the scandal!!!!

7/22/2007 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Danny Lukensmeyer is still considered to be the GOD of 009. His grumble can still be heard in the interrogation rooms.
Ask any copper in 009 who knew him and they will state "Danny was a GOD among police."
None of us believe he actually stole a squad. We in 009 KNOW he was set up by the Feds. He was NOT a rogue cop. He was not like Finnegan. What an insult!

7/22/2007 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First off, Danny L. was not forced to resign. A monster of a man like that could never be forced to resign by anyone. Hell, every watch commander he dealt with walked on egg shells near him. He did whatever he wanted in 009 and nobody questioned him.
Secondly, he WAS a God in 009 and that came from his amazing dope arrests. He brought in drugs every night he went out. He was also the best acting FTO 009 ever had at it's disposal. He made 009 tough and it's coppers tougher.
Danny worked Mids towards the end of his career and made REAL POLICE out of every copper he trained.
Unless you were blessed to work with him, then you don't know the man. Bottom line is that Danny L. kicked major ass and made the badguys in 009 fear the police.

7/22/2007 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:16
You're soft as shit. Coppers leave Nine all the time. You know what? They always do better in the next district too. Nine has shit ftos and know it alls who can't train.

-014 copper

7/22/2007 08:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DL was a monster of a copper. I had the honor of working with him a few times in the projects on my day off. He was a no nonsense, take no prisoners sonuvabitch! A great copper. If fifteen badass mothers challenged him, he'd dive right into it. I take my hat off to him about that. He was the REAL POLICE!!

However, he did have a fucking stolen unmarked squad car in his back yard. In the car were personal items of HIS. The car had BS "M" plates on it, but the VIN was hot.

There was a CR number and he resigned rather than face it all. He was months short of his 60th birthday, which as some of you know, was his goal to reach before leaving the job. That way he would have had his medical insurance paid by the city.

As it is, he got his pension, but no retirement star, no retirement ID, nothing to show for his years on the job.

Anyone who thinks the Feds set him up is smoking something funny. Somewhere along the line DL crossed a line....and for that he deserved what he got.

Either he was using the squad as personal car, or probably, to do some clandestine things....but whatever it was, he was fucking using the car. You don't want to believe that, I don't blame you. It was kinda like when you found out there was no Santa Claus when it was learned DL had that fucking STOLEN UNMARKED SQUAD CAR.

7/22/2007 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i worked in 009 years ago and trained on midnights. i laugh when i hear you fools claim that D.L. was as you quote"a god". i also laugh when i hear the previous poster claim that it was amazing how every night he brought in dope arrests. well, lets think about this for a brief moment. getting dope in 009 is not hard to do nor was it for this "god" that causes some to be in amazement.he didnt have a talent for sniffing out dope dealers or hipes. all he would do like anyone else in 009 is cross over in to 002/021 and watch the jets and wait for the first gringo or out of state plate exiting the lots. odds are that you will get dope from eventually one of theses cars. if that type of police work gets you excited and creams your thong then more power to you. that is no different then al kruger waiting by the hispanic bars watching for the first borracho to stumble out in a sombrero with botas and get into his car and then guess what...you got a dui. wow, that is great police work right????not, just like this god you are making reference to.i have more respect for the coppers who work hard to find it and get quality arrests. so, you claim that D.L. was a god and still is in 009???you previous poster most be the same type of goof who thinks that jack halpin who worked as w/c on midnights was great too. you probably think that the desk crew that worked midnights in 009 all of whom are retired being jim "i can kick your ass" newton, andy "drunk" anser, larry rawely,jeff balcitis were gods too??? they by far were the worst of the worst non helpful miserable s.o.b.'s i have ever met.i also couldnt stop laughing when i read that people dont bid out of 009 and that 009 is the cream district of the southside.well, i guess that if you had your choice to work in 003/004/005/006/007/021 then yeah 009 looks and sounds great and im sure most recruits would take that district in a heartbeat. but saying 009 is better then 008 or 010 0r 012 or 022 then you must be smoking them sticks dipped in water that the ambrose are selling. the only thing about right that was read was that 009 is political and hard to get into. not long ago when 009 was a good district no one wanted to go there. im guessing maybe 5 years ago on any openings available 009 would always have no less then 5 spots to bid for.and thats when the district had good po's and not these asshats that are always talking nonsense about the b-team, purple shades, sgt. hitney,lack of manpower and now the D.L. nonsense. 009 is no longer the district it used to be or the place of good hard working po's. long gone are the good sgts that were respected by all (sgt lockhard/sgt willis/sgt bickham/sgt blowfish/sgt shields/sgt lee/sgt olivera.in closing i wish scc would finally cut off the old women gossip nonsense that is posted by these 009th district babies.im sure many other people would agree that they are very tired of the 009th district and the posts that are as always off topic. signed a po sick and tired of the 009th district b.s.

7/22/2007 04:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Feds set Danny up. He did receive a retirement star, which he proudly showed all at his retirement party in 009. Danny was a GOD!

7/22/2007 07:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4:20
Although some of the things you said were right on target, still have to disagree on D.L....He was a GOD in 009. You will never comprehend the quality of policing he brought into 009. He was the one guy you knew was knowlegable in dope arrests.
Gossip in 009 will never go away. That's just the way 009 is. Even the DC is involved in scandal. What do you expect from his po's?

-sick of 009's b.s on days

7/23/2007 08:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of the b team in 009? Why is that a great copper like J. Weber cannot get on the tac team, but his partner J. Spring, who is also his brother-in law, goes right on upstairs? Where is M. Darcy's assistance on this bullshit?!
Weber has been working his ass off for years in Blue Island, PD, Saturation and 009 and still cannot get a break? Nobody has more awards than this guy. He has brought so much to the b team and his stats are through the roof. Maybe it's time for Weber to go where he will be appreciated?
You officers in 009 know he did more on 915's beat than any copper on the 3rd Watch. This is an outrage that Spring is going upstairs before Weber. It was disgusting when 009 tac took Kelnosky and Murphy up before Weber, but now this...What the f#$k is going on in 009 anyway, when they can take up useless, non-producing officers and leave a good man down?
WTF? Ok, I'm done with my rant. Sorry J, you really got screwed on this one! Dude, get off the b team already. It isn't doing nothing for you anyway.

-your pal in 009

7/23/2007 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You sausage wallets don't know shit! Danny was not set up by the Feds. He chose to use a stolen squad car. It was found at his home with his belongings in it. The Feds didn't set him up. He did it to himself.
Also, will somebody please tell the elite B team of 009 that they can answer priority 1 calls too? Fucking sausage wallets one and all!

7/23/2007 02:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sick of these same old scenarios playing out again and again in CPD. The D.L. story is similar to the Broderick Jones/Corey Flagg story. Two brutal motherfuckers who came in wit "great dope arrests" everyday, all the thugs feared them, etc. One day, they too were robbing someone(with all the others from 007 who were indicted) and got somebody killed. Of course this was covered up, the full honors CPD funeral and so on. Then comes Finnegan and crew, the only thing missing is the funeral. We need somebody to clean up this department! It ain't gonna hurt me or 99% of the other men and women who come to work and do their job everyday.

7/23/2007 02:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All you goofs who want to bash 009 are total asshats. 009 is made up of the finest coppers around. They are simply the best CPD has. Just ask them.
008 dist copper

7/23/2007 02:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THIS IS FOOLISH!

Go to work.

Answer your calls.

Nothing else.

Then go home.

YOU ARE BEING PAID TO BE THE POLICE, NOT TO DO NOTHING BUT ANSWER CALLS. WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF A POLICE OFFICER? WHY DON'T WE HIRE CIVILIANS TO ANSWER CALLS AND WRITE REPORTS: IT WOULD BE A LOT CHEAPER!


If you do nothing...there is nothing to look at.
YES THERE IS, YOU DOING NOTHING IS RIGHT THERE TO LOOK AT.

Wake up boys n girls. We could embarrass the hell out of daley.
YOU ONLY EMBARASS YOURSELF AND YOUR FELLOW WORKERS.

And now is the time with all the olympic nonsense.

We as coppers are self destructive. We give this city and the media every tool they need to hate us and screw us over. WHY?

Answer your calls. Come clear when you finish. Write paper for everything. And dont give them the revenue.
RIGHT - MAKE SURE THE CITY CANNOT PAY YOU OR CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR PENSION BY NOT GIVING THEM THE REVENUE.

If the Captains and so on down the line start meesing with your start times etc..

WHAT, YOUR 2 HOUR PLUS OR MINUS START TIME NEGOTIATED BY YOUR UNION, AND YOU GET OT IF IT GOES OUTSIDE THAT GUIDELINE, WHAT IS YOUR BEEF THERE? WHAT WILL OR CAN YOU DO ABOUT IT - AS LONG AS IT IS WITHIN THE CONTRACT GUIDELINES, NOTHING....
Document and involve the fop. When they fail....EOC complaint and a shotgun lawsuit.
DOCUMENT WHAT?

Im tired of this crap. Lets win for a chane.

7/21/2007 09:10:00 AM

7/23/2007 02:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lukensmeyer a GOD in 009? Try Borezky...That guy talks the talk...JIVE...and what walks the walk...CAT! Man dat cat is kewl!

7/23/2007 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somehow I just can t help but feel that someone who helped the problems of the L.A.P.D would first have to explain to me the reasons for such failure out there. For instance after the Rodney King verdicts and the street went up , how come the Police approached the problem and then backed away? Could it be they had no dirction from a nuetered Police Dept. and were more afraid of how they would br dealt with by the job then what they faced on the streets? I was ther when the first Daley brought in O.W.Wilson after the summerdale scandel and he made a lot of good changes in the Dept. But that was nearly fifty years ago and the circumstances were different. The press says she s fair and hears both sides of the story. I m sure it wont take long for us to find out the truth.

7/23/2007 03:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think we would all agree that 009 is made up of total prima donnas and whiners. It's too bad we cannot have a Hurricane Katrina that could just wipe that shitty political district off the planet. Seriously, you all in 009 are bunch of bleeding heart pansies in need of counseling and tampons!!!

7/23/2007 04:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well look at the fearless leader of the b-team in 009...B.L. what a complete jagoff.

7/23/2007 07:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mark Donahue was the best copper 009 ever saw. He was the real police.

7/25/2007 10:08:00 AM  

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