Friday, September 21, 2007

What a Modern Department!

Ridiculous (from the comments):
  • OFF TOPIC--BUT IMPORTANT.

    At approximately 2100 hrs tonite (19Sep)a traffic stop for a 3200 unit went wrong up on 024. A gun was pulled by a driver, the copper busted a cap at the driver who then fled into Warren Park.

    An 024 Sergeant requested the helicopter to aid in the search and light up the park.

    Two minutes later, the Zone 11 dispatcher stated "The helicopter is off tonight"

    What is the use of a helo if they have the day off?

    How many people are in the unit? Obviously not enough to man the aircraft 24/7/365. Don't they have people on call?

    I don't expect the media to report on [this], maybe Kass will.

    Copper is ok, that is all that really matters,,,even though shithead probably got away.
As we understand part of the problem, Harry "the Hat" Holm won't let anyone else fly the bird. No one, and we mean no one, gets any stick time at all. One of the pilots is rumored to have gotten fed up and left the Unit because of Harry's nonsense.

Are we or are we not supposed to be one of the most "technologically advanced" Departments on the face of the earth, but we can't keep a helicopter in the air for more than three hours a day, and not even seven days a week? How many millions are going to be poured into this boondoggle? Either staff the damn unit appropriately so it can be used or disband it and get us a few cars and the bodies to man it.

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88 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

F*ck the helicopter. Another useless unit. This ain't LA.

9/21/2007 12:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A former Carpentersville woman filed a $30 million federal lawsuit Thursday, alleging that anti-immigrant sentiment in the village contributed to paramedics' failure to take her son to the hospital, causing him permanent brain damage.

Ted Karavidas, a lawyer for Gloria Lopez, said "virulent anti-immigrant and anti-Hispanic rhetoric" in the northwestern suburb led to an atmosphere where paramedics denied care for the boy, violating his civil rights.

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Only in America can illegal non-citizens file lawsuits against the government.

A HUGE thank you to the federal government for letting this problem get worse and worse by the year.

Bush, you fucking disgust me.

9/21/2007 12:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every time I saw Phil's fat face on television proclaiming that "the city of Chicago leads the nation in technology," I wanted to puke.

I know he is an at-will employee that must sing and dance for Daley, but come on.

I am LUCKY to get an antiquated and broken fucking Microslate computer in my car.

Don't even get me going how in the most violent city in America the police officers do not have tasers, shotguns or rifles.

Don't believe the hype John Q Public, the city is lying to you by "re-classifiying" crimes. There is still just as much violence as ever, they are just getting better at hiding it from the sheeple.

I am applying to suburbs now where they will treat me like an adult.

9/21/2007 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh come on....you know that the only time that helicopter flies is when they are filming a batman movie in the 1st & 18th districts

9/21/2007 12:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Helicopters, are you kidding me. Myself and my partner were almost sent home today because there were no cars available, no pool cars available, at all, ANYWHERE!! The Sgts cars that were down were given out to other cars that didn't have pool vehicles. The caps cars were being used as well. We had nothing, and thats even with a couple rapids down due to manpower and they still couldn't find cars for us. Ridiculous, the second largest police department in the country, and no cars, no pdts, radios that work for 4 hours, etc. Bring on the Olympics!

9/21/2007 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

A former Carpentersville woman filed a $30 million federal lawsuit Thursday, alleging that anti-immigrant sentiment in the village contributed to paramedics' failure to take her son to the hospital, causing him permanent brain damage.

Ted Karavidas, a lawyer for Gloria Lopez, said "virulent anti-immigrant and anti-Hispanic rhetoric" in the northwestern suburb led to an atmosphere where paramedics denied care for the boy, violating his civil rights.

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Only in America can illegal non-citizens file lawsuits against the government.

A HUGE thank you to the federal government for letting this problem get worse and worse by the year.

Bush, you fucking disgust me.

9/21/2007 12:05:00 AM


I know a bit about Carpentersville; belive me, it is not Bush's fault. That town has been steadily declining for a few decades now. When you allow a neighborhood that was built to house vietnam vets to turn into miles of houses occupied by illegals, it is NOT the preident's fault. Bush was pounding brewskies in college while Carpentersville was falling apart. C'ville is trying to curb the illegal problem, but it is too little too late.

As far as the lawsuit is concerned, all it takes is for lawmakers to curb the ability of illegals to file suit in the US, especially against the US; in essence, when you go to file suit, you have to show that you are a legal member of society. Only problem is that this would be highly unpopular with hispanic voters. Again NOT the president's fault. Actually, a lot or current problems are allowed to fester because 1.LEGAL CONSERVATIVE RESIDENTS DO NOT V O T E. EVERY YEAR I AM AMAZED AT HOW MANY OF US DO NOT VOTE. And 2. Conservatives do not picket. I have yet to see a group of businessmen or working conservatives march agianst the rediculous state of things. It's always the liberal's stirring things up. That's my 2 cents, which are worth about 1.7 cents in europe.

9/21/2007 01:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Helo is a JOKE! I have see it TWICE in action. BOTH TIMES (60/State Homicide - 79/Avalon Police Shooting) it showed 20 minutes after the fact, shined it's spotlight around and left. THATS IT.

9/21/2007 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Harry doesn't want to get too close to the lakefront with that helicopter. He may fall asleep and ditch it into the lake like he did his squad car.
That's how he got "the hat" nickname. The Fire Department diver came out of the water with Harry's hat on his head.
Priceless.

9/21/2007 01:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Helo would have blinded all the SWAT officers on foot in the park that were using their night vision optics..... oooh wait, they were denied purchase of those bare necessities. Just wait for that bright orange ball to come up in the morning.....

9/21/2007 02:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Years ago, at a stand-up roll call in the 008th District, Harry the Hat was getting on an old-timer about his uniform appearance. The KMA member looked down at Harry (doesn't everybody?) and said, "Is it true that you had to stand on a stack of $100 bills to pass the height requirement to get on this job?"

One if the funniest things I saw in my 31 years on the job.

9/21/2007 02:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only in America can illegal non-citizens file lawsuits against the government.

A HUGE thank you to the federal government for letting this problem get worse and worse by the year.

Bush, you fucking disgust me.

You're kidding right?
this started back when Carter was president and has gone on ever since. At least the Bush administration is trying to do something about it, I.E. the wall being built. The democrats won't touch it because they are more interested in grabbing the mexican vote, not border security.

9/21/2007 02:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC that sorry is just sad! a helicopter could have found that asshole in Warren Park in a few minutes.

We should have at the very least 3 helicopters patrolling the city at any given time. 1 patroling north/northwest side, 1 patroling south/southwest side and 1 patroling up and down the lakefront and lakefront districts. I would help the patrol division immensely, but then again who cares about them?

9/21/2007 02:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sad

9/21/2007 03:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if you're an illegal immigrant---u should not be able to file lawsuits or complaints against the police YOU SHOULDNT BE HERE ANYWAY

9/21/2007 03:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

harry is a control freak.. he was never liked as a commander and he is not like as a CIVILIAN... your not the police anymore harry, your a civilian. give it up and let someone else drive your little helecopter its not just yours. harry never was the police and was a little weenie of a boss. hopefully you know that no body ever liked you harry....and if they did... they were probley strokes. good day sir!

9/21/2007 03:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes the helo unit is staffed. Who they are an how they got there is another question to be asked. I know for a fact that there is a guy the with 5 years on the job. Got out of the Acad in July 02 went straight to 018. Braggeed about doing nothing and of course made the gang team and is now in the Helo unit.

Also know for a fact that he is not a pilot so that excuse can not be used

9/21/2007 04:47:00 AM  
Blogger leomemorial said...

This city frustrates me.

How can our officers do their jobs when they're not given the proper tools? This is why civilians need to get involved; to demand better for our police. SCC, I'm starting to copy & link some subjects on here to our memorial as well as policelink.com (ODMP).

9/21/2007 05:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ted Karavidas, a lawyer for Gloria Lopez, said "virulent anti-immigrant and anti-Hispanic rhetoric" in the northwestern suburb led to an atmosphere where paramedics denied care for the boy, violating his civil rights.
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Too bad he shouldn't be here in the first place. Can we as a nation sue illegals, criminals, and poor people for stealing everyday from the middle class.

9/21/2007 05:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Politics at its finest! This guy Holm must have some major juice to lay the law down like that. Any law enforcement rotary wing program worth a damn runs 24 hours and has several pilots and shifts.....goofy

9/21/2007 06:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 9/21/2007 12:05:00

A city and a police department of this size should have a helicopter unit that is up and manned 24/7. If run properly, it could be a tremendous asset. Much smaller cities and departments have helicopters that are in the air all of the time. We should too. And no, I am not in the unit, nor do I aspire to be.

9/21/2007 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the balloon unit? After all there's so much hot air in this dept.

9/21/2007 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We did lose a pilot due to Holm's micromanaging. I work in the Marine Unit and heard the rumor is true. Shane McHugh, a former Area 3 detective, got fed up with Holm and left on a transfer order to TRU.
Mc Hugh was a funny guy with a European accent. Reminded us of Ichabod Crane from Sleepy Hollow. And yes, he actually flew the helo when allowed.
Good luck in TRU Shane!

9/21/2007 07:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we have 2 helicopters that's great but we don't have anyone to fly them
let's demand 3 wagons per district
that's what we really need
some districts can't man 1 wagon unless they put a beat car down
how about it 1st watch in the 22nd district what a joke

9/21/2007 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The Helo is a JOKE! I have see it TWICE in action. BOTH TIMES (60/State Homicide - 79/Avalon Police Shooting) it showed 20 minutes after the fact, shined it's spotlight around and left. THATS IT.

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I've seen it once, at the St. Jude's Parade.

9/21/2007 09:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Qualified coppers don't want to be part of that unit, I know of 5 coppers including myself(3 POs, 1 PPO and a Detective)on the job who have military experience and certifications as aircraft mechanics and two pilots (POs). Why give the city those services when you get the same pay as the dog who just answers his calls. Wow I can bust my ass (as well as be held liable) working on the copper so some jag can fly over movie sets.

9/21/2007 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If its true that SM left for TRU, that is a shame. He was a dick in Area 5 and took a demotion to fly the helicopter. That is CPD at its finest. 1 moron with a big ego ruining whatever they touch from the ground up.

9/21/2007 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need a hot air balloon unit. We have enough free hot air coming out of all the bosses mouths that the balloons will stay air born indefinately.

Helicopter great idea but it's more of the smoke and mirror game.

ya know, they have medication for bi-polar disorder and multiple personality disorder. some bosses need to realize this and seek help.

9/21/2007 09:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

04:47 typical copper can’t spell or get his fact straight but that will never get in the way of his complaining

9/21/2007 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/21/2007 4:47 a.m.,
You dont know what you are talking about. Only guy I know from 018 with 5 years on is a pilot both aero and helo. Also a very good p.o. and asset to the dept.

9/21/2007 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lafayette, Tennessee PD has FIVE helicopters.

Estimated 2006 population -
4,238 residents


But hey! The flowers and free trollies in Chicago are grrrrreat!

9/21/2007 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Are we or are we not supposed to be one of the most "technologically advanced" Departments on the face of the earth?"

The answer is NO!!We dont have computers in all the cars,no shotguns,no AR15s,shit we dont even have batteries that work properly(old) for our portables.
CPD hires way too many political hacks,has a huge gang infiltration problem.

They cant even have a friggin helo available??What are they going to do when the Olympics come??Sorry the helo is down,the cup holder broke.

What special equipment is in a CPD squad??Jack shit thats what,not even a spare tire.Hell,we dont even have AM/FM radios.

9/21/2007 11:30:00 AM  
Anonymous beat 811, trying and serving said...

I work in 8th. Recently I had an elderly lady's little poodle (the dog is also on medicine for diabetes and a heart condition) get out of her yard and run into the nearby wooded area on the far west end. I called for Air One to help locate it with it's infrared camera. Would you believe some knuckle head Sgt scolded my ass over the radio for calling for it. What is it there for if we can't use it. This lady was like 90 years old, only spoke polish and was about to drop dead of a heart attack on the lost of her long time companion and best friend.So after I got off work I went to the woods on my own and 9 hours later I found it. Sometimes police work is more than just catching criminals, its about helping people. The only thing I am worried about is West Nile Virus, I got probably well over 100 bug bites which could of been avoided if the damn helicopter just came out.

9/21/2007 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Same problem in 004 and 006 the other night. It was needed to search for a armed robber that did a car jacking. Helicopter was in the air but detalied to the 012 and could not fly 3 minutes away to look for the offender.

9/21/2007 12:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are depending on the helicopter to save you - forget it! - you will die, bleeding out in some alleyway. It's NEVER available when needed, I understand the alder-creatures love to take city scape photos from it however.
And re the earlier post:

I think Harry doesn't want to get too close to the lakefront with that helicopter. He may fall asleep and ditch it into the lake like he did his squad car.
That's how he got "the hat" nickname. The Fire Department diver came out of the water with Harry's hat on his head.

It wasn't a car, "DA HAT" was an old three-wheeler guy, who was pushed into the lake by some drunken teens. Probably ran his mouth at them and they saw him for what he is - a very little man with a Napoleon complex. The young can be very perceptive at times

9/21/2007 12:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Every time I saw Phil's fat face on television proclaiming that "the city of Chicago leads the nation in technology," I wanted to puke.

I know he is an at-will employee that must sing and dance for Daley, but come on.

I am LUCKY to get an antiquated and broken fucking Microslate computer in my car.

Don't even get me going how in the most violent city in America the police officers do not have tasers, shotguns or rifles.

Don't believe the hype John Q Public, the city is lying to you by "re-classifiying" crimes. There is still just as much violence as ever, they are just getting better at hiding it from the sheeple.

I am applying to suburbs now where they will treat me like an adult.

9/21/2007 12:09:00 AM
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don't jump ship too soon.... there's only a handful of 'burbs that let u be the police and they're few and far between. I've got to go write down my park check on my worksheet now.......

9/21/2007 01:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

04:47:00 AM
You sound just like the media or Rev. J. Jackson because you are obviously not letting the validity of the facts get in the way of your good story

9/21/2007 01:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys should learn to check your facts before reporting on a unit and people you know nothing about! Guy from 018 was a hard worker and never bragged about doing nothing. You sound like a news reporter, making up facts! I know for a Fact he has a helio license and has put hours in flying! Jealous? They use infrared cameras to find offenders. This works better than dumb spotlight you are all referring to. This is not LA!!!!

9/21/2007 01:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Leomemorial

Where did you find that image you have here on SCC?

Looks real nice

9/21/2007 02:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember "No one in the station before 2300 per Clancey" Oh but you can sneak out at 2200 if your his buddy.

9/21/2007 02:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only in America can illegal non-citizens file lawsuits against the government.

A HUGE thank you to the federal government for letting this problem get worse and worse by the year.

Bush, you fucking disgust me.

9/21/2007 12:05:00 AM


Dude do you really believe it's all Bush's fault? Clinton did plenty to fuck up this nation and don't for get that!

9/21/2007 02:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You would think that with the amount of "seasoned" pilots coming home from Iraq the dept would reach out to them.

9/21/2007 02:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Part of the problem here is the safety of those in the helicopter.. its important that all the pilots get hours on the particular bird and are familiar with its operation. Mistakes in a helicoptor more than likely result in death, usually to the officers on the bird. Not to mention the millions of dollars of equipment that is expended with a fairly minor mistake. This is a fledgling unit, manpower isn't at optimum. People who think it isn't being done right should go on out there, I would like to see any of them try to fly a helicopter. Personal ambivalance about the people in the unit isn't gonna do anyone any good. There really aren't enough people in the unit right now to fly both birds at the same time, nor do I think that safety should be ignored at any time. Also, the helicopter unit does have days off, it can be called out. If you or your supervisor wants the off duty guys tko be called in, you should request it. I think that once the unit is really running 7 days a week (probably will take a few more months to get there) you will see more immediate availability. Also, it does take time, in the form of flight hours to be checked out on a bird, to the extent of flying missions which can be quite stressful.
There are other factors too, including weather. Also, the helo can't be in two places at the same time. Give the unit a chance, it will be a good thing. And, just because one person has only seen it up a few times, doesn't mean it hasn't been up there, it has.

9/21/2007 03:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHENT THAT DET. GOT SHOT IN 009, THE CHOPPER WAS REQUESTED BY 999 TO SEARCH SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL SPOTS IN THAT AREA. AND THE SAME RESPONSE BY THE ZONE, "THE HELO IS NOT AVAILABLE" WELL I GUESS SOME PHONE CALLS WERE MADE, AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN THERE WAS A 45MIN ETA. 45 MINUTES FOR A COPPER SHOT!!!

THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE UP AT ALL TIMES. IF THE POOL OF CPD ABLE TO FLY IS SO SMALL, THEN HIRE CIVILLIANS TO FLY WITH PO'S ON BOARD. IF YOUR GOING TO HAVE IT, USE IT. OTHERWISE SCRAP IT FOR SOME MORE CROWN VICS AND NOT SOME FRUITY CONCEPT POLICE VEHILE.

9/21/2007 03:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The heck with expensive copters,how about using Homeland Security for a couple of drones.The tact teams don't leave the tact office anyway,besides playing video games.

9/21/2007 04:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lets be real Cook County picks up half the tab on the Helo. And there are a number of well qualified pilots on the job. Chief pilot himself is a great guy and Harry treats him like shit. besides this guys should be paid d-3 and d-4 pay flying is not without risk.

9/21/2007 04:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, even I see the silliness in my suggesting the following:

We always see on TV or photo shoots of how we in conjunction with the suburbs are fighting gangs and crime as well as sharing information. Why can't a helicopter or two or more, (God Forbid)be shared by multiple agencies? This way you spread the cost and manpower needs around.

Ok, I'll go take my meds now

9/21/2007 05:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So hopefully in the near future, the police won't be able to associate with Richie Daley.

9/21/2007 05:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I applied for door gunner but never heard back. That must be Merit too.

9/21/2007 05:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some Copper in 001st Dist told the FOP REP, at roll call To go fuck off, and they are sell-outs.And why don,t someone tell John Cass obout we only hace 9300 coppers on the job

9/21/2007 06:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Offender was taken into custody Friday afternoon by 020 district coppers. Charges pending....

9/21/2007 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good luck in TRU Shane!

9/21/2007 07:56:00 AM

McHugh is in SOS he is fucking hilarious, and still a detective through and through. Its a fucking shame what Holm did to him. Hes waiting for the next sgts class after he gets his stripes and holm drops dead he will run the helo unit.

9/21/2007 07:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about a blimp? Daley could sell advertising on it's sides. It would pay for itself. Except Daley would "forget" to collect the money as long as those checks for the dems. keep coming in.

9/21/2007 07:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAS IT OCCURED TO ANYONE THAT ONCE THE BOSS HEARD THAT IT WAS IN 024, HE DIDNT NEED TO SEND THE HELO BECAUSE HE KNEW SEISER WORKS IN 024 AND WOULD HAVE THE OFFENDER IN CUSTODY SHORTLY THEREAFTER.

9/21/2007 08:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O.K. The posting from 19SEP at 1018 am was possibly the funniest thing I have ever read in my life.It is in regards to that LT A.S. from 024 that is absolutely hated by her troups,you should all check itout ,the author is 1 sick puppy .AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

9/21/2007 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Modern?! Laughable at best...

I am trying to finish up my degree and when the other students hear I work for Chicago I am bombarded with questions about our computer system and equipment. Needless to say they are shocked that we are not surrounded by 50in plasma screens, have access to every law enforcement database in the world and work in pristine lofts.

I tell them to stop watching CSI Miami and if they ever work for Chicago to expect the squads to be out of gas and the toilets not to work.

9/21/2007 08:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

douche who pulled a gun on the traffic cop is in custody as of 21 SEP 07. Arrested by Madsen's team of the 20 dist who did a great job in tracking this P.O.S. down. GOOD JOB!

9/21/2007 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I met one of the former sergeants; he bailed out too; he wouldn't elaborate.

9/21/2007 08:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lets be real Cook County picks up half the tab on the Helo. And there are a number of well qualified pilots on the job. Chief pilot himself is a great guy and Harry treats him like shit. besides this guys should be paid d-3 and d-4 pay flying is not without risk.

What are you talking about? County doesn't pick up half the tab, although they do pay for some hours and provide the TFO's.
Second, Harry H IS the chief pilot, 3rd, you are right the pilots should be getting more pay, flying is extremely high risk.

9/21/2007 09:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are depending on the helicopter to save you - forget it! - you will die, bleeding out in some alleyway. It's NEVER available when needed, I understand the alder-creatures love to take city scape photos from it however.

WRONG, never say never, it sometimes is not available when needed. Eventually it will be operational 7 days a week, but it probably will never be manned 24 hours/7 days...

9/21/2007 09:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We need a hot air balloon unit. We have enough free hot air coming out of all the bosses mouths that the balloons will stay air born indefinately. "

We already have a hot air unit. It's based at 35th and Michigan.

9/21/2007 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with poster: 9/21/2007 03:18:00 PM

Sell the helicopter and get some more crown vics on the street. That thing is useless if it is not going to be up 24/7.

9/21/2007 10:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you. It was sent to me a long time ago by the creator of the print, Sgt. Thomas Zeigle (WI). He & his wife are awesome.

He created the "We Never Walk Alone" print after the loss of Deputy Mike Villiard, his mentor.

9/21/2007 10:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me say that I'm a civilian and reading this blog is scary. Evidently, the Peter Principal is alive and well in the Chicago Police Department. Unfortunately I'm not surprised that rank and file officers face the same bullshit everybody everywhere faces everyday in terms of asshole bosses and political co-workers. The difference is that your job can be a matter of life and death (yours or mine) and you would THINK that certain types of employment or professions would be exempt from the standard and incessant bullshit that occurs pretty much everywhere else simply because it should be.

This blog is the best example of democracy in action that I've ever seen. I'm glad I lived long enough to see a technology develop that actually supports the human condition by giving a voice to the integrity and dedication that is silenced and/or feared by the useless assholes you have to deal with in order to do a job you were called to do and love despite everything you have to put up with.

Ok, now what is with this Seiser? Is he a well-liked all around great guy or some poor stupid bastard that fucks everything up?

9/21/2007 11:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 9/21/2007 10:51:00 AM

The only guy in 018 with 5 years?
Does he happen to be B.R. Are you sure he has a pilots lic? Inquiring minds want to know

9/21/2007 11:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they aren't going to use it when needed they may as well sell it.It's guys like this that make the department a bad place to be.Remember boys and girls, this place is run by nepotism/chronyism. It's their toy and not for us.I hope he gets the cyclic stick stuck right up his ass.

9/22/2007 02:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Years ago, at a stand-up roll call in the 008th District, Harry the Hat was getting on an old-timer about his uniform appearance. The KMA member looked down at Harry (doesn't everybody?) and said, "Is it true that you had to stand on a stack of $100 bills to pass the height requirement to get on this job?"

One if the funniest things I saw in my 31 years on the job.

9/21/2007 02:08:00 AM

I have no idea who Harry "The Hat" is but that was some funny shit! You rock!

9/22/2007 04:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/21/2007 11:54:00 PM I am sure this is not the first time this has happened to you but you are wrong! B.R. has a pilot license with two ratings on it, single engine land and rotorcraft helicopter rating. Not one dime of this training was paid for by the city.

9/22/2007 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

daley bought the helo to sjow the olympic idiots we had air power and cover, it is good for nothing else! The city will not pay to man it 24/7 as usual, but then again if daley can give walsh or degnan another multi-million no work no show deal who knows what could happen?

9/22/2007 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 9/21/2007 12:47:P.M.
You don't know what you are talking about. When Harry put the car in the lake, he was a Sergerant in Mass Transit. It was Midnights, and he fell asleep with the car in gear, took his foot off of the brake and the car, with Harry in it went into the lake near the planetarium. Fortuantely the only thing that was hurt was Harry's pride. He got the nick name the "hat" when one of the fire department SCUBA divers came walking out of the lake with Harry's sergeant hat on his head. That picture made the front page of the Sun Times. I know, I was there.

9/22/2007 01:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

douche who pulled a gun on the traffic cop is in custody as of 21 SEP 07. Arrested by Madsen's team of the 20 dist who did a great job in tracking this P.O.S. down. GOOD JOB!

Thanks for letting us know Eric!

9/22/2007 01:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they aren't going to use it when needed they may as well sell it.It's guys like this that make the department a bad place to be.Remember boys and girls, this place is run by nepotism/chronyism. It's their toy and not for us.I hope he gets the cyclic stick stuck right up his ass.

9/22/2007 02:52:00 AM

You are full of BS you must be eating sour grapes.

9/22/2007 03:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sell the helicopter and get some more crown vics on the street. That thing is useless if it is not going to be up 24/7.

9/21/2007 10:08:00 PM

Give it a chance already, you might find it useful once the unit is fully operational.
You are so negative, how about posting something positive?

9/22/2007 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Sell the helicopter and get some more crown vics on the street. That thing is useless if it is not going to be up 24/7.

9/21/2007 10:08:00 PM

Give it a chance already, you might find it useful once the unit is fully operational.
You are so negative, how about posting something positive?

9/22/2007 03:40:00 PM

If it's not fully operational, why make it a unit? Run the unit like it is supposed to be run. Not half ass, like everything in this city.

9/22/2007 04:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are you talking about? County doesn't pick up half the tab, although they do pay for some hours and provide the TFO's.
Second, Harry H IS the chief pilot, 3rd, you are right the pilots should be getting more pay, flying is extremely high risk.

9/21/2007 09:52:00 PM


im waiting for that damn thing to fly i want to take out a $ 1,000,000.00 life insurance policy out on a pilot. thats my pay day

9/22/2007 05:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a lot of stuff on here about the qualifications that this person or that person does or does not possess......Go to faa.gov and under "airman certification" you can enter the person's name and see exactly what qualifications they do or do not have!!! Enquiring minds should go there.

9/22/2007 08:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it's not fully operational, why make it a unit? Run the unit like it is supposed to be run. Not half ass, like everything in this city.

You gotta start somewhere... I am sure you can imagine, if you put your mind to it, the task of getting it up and running from nothing. It is one thing to step into a unit and run it, or keep it going, it is quite another to actually get something started, then get it up to where you want it to be.

9/22/2007 08:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

daley bought the helo to sjow the olympic idiots we had air power and cover, it is good for nothing else! The city will not pay to man it 24/7 as usual, but then again if daley can give walsh or degnan another multi-million no work no show deal who knows what could happen?

Well, the mayor can use it as he sees fit, although the $ supporting it requires certain types of missions to be run with it, not all of which are answering calls, .

9/22/2007 08:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with poster: 9/21/2007 03:18:00 PM

Sell the helicopter and get some more crown vics on the street. That thing is useless if it is not going to be up 24/7.

9/21/2007 10:08:00 PM

give it a chance why don't you?

9/22/2007 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Keesing Bandit says----

Using the helicopter to find a poodle???? I'll be drinking early.

Now, kees me you fool!!!

9/22/2007 08:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am applying to suburbs now where they will treat me like an adult.

9/21/2007 12:09:00 AM

You better do some more homework.Addison makes you call out on the air to get permisson for a tinkle.Thats just one example.Ask around.

9/22/2007 09:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have no idea who Harry "The Hat" is but that was some funny shit! You rock!

9/22/2007 04:07:00 AM

Harry "The Hat" is Harry Holm, former Commander of Inspections and the guy who's now in charge of the new dept. chopper, as a civilian.

9/23/2007 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not full of B.S., I really do want the cyclic up his ass and you can stick the collective in yours.

9/23/2007 02:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wheres airwolf and blue thunder when you need them. i always remember them available for assignments. just seemed like they appreciated being pilots on their depts. and never taking time due. what a crappy show that would've been if they did. a half hour show looking at an idle helicopter sorry audience the actors have time due today. peace baby

9/23/2007 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"He was a dick in Area 5 and took a demotion to fly the helicopter. That is CPD at its finest. 1 moron with a big ego ruining whatever they touch from the ground up."

Be careful what you wish for.
More like a clash of egos from the get go. Wound up bailng out& taking a paycut. BRILLIANT!!!

9/23/2007 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Message to the 008th District copper who "searched the wooded area on my own for 9 hours" to find an old, disbetic run down fifi dog: YOU'RE A TOOL! I bet you're one of the same 008th Dist. coppers who complains about "no police service" on the west end of 008! And you say you're CONCERNED about getting west nile? I'm concerned that there isn't enough cement in Chicago to fill the void in your empty head! What an ASSHOLE!!!! no wonder things are so fucked up in 008...all the real police are searching for lost pooches in the woods!!! Funniest, dumbest shit I've ever seen posted here EVER!!! HAHAHAHAAHAHA!

9/23/2007 08:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CPD leads the country in technology, we have microwave ovens in all police stations.

9/24/2007 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its amazing how people can criticize what they do not understand. First of all this is not just a Chicago Police Helicopter, it is a Cook County Helicopter. The County owns 25% of the helicopter. That means that it can be in the County a couple days a week and also be used by other suburban police departments on a call out basis. As far as off days it is not a twenty four hour a day unit. The Sheriff due to budget cut pulled two of the five Sheriffs officers out of the unit leaving three to do the work of five. Now the Sheriffs Officer also do not have squad cars so we use our regular personal vehicle just like CPD so it can take time for to respond. Yes we are not LA, LA has been doing this for over twenty years. The helicopter unit has been in existence for just over a year and following Federal FAA guideline Chicago and Sheriff protocol. As well as answering to all three at the same time. It not just jumping into the squad car and patrolling the hood.

9/25/2007 02:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I AGREE WHOLEHEARTLY< GET RID OF THEM-TOTAL USELESS!!!!!!!!

9/25/2007 05:17:00 PM  

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