Anita? Wake Up!
The State's Attorney's office seems to be in a bit of disarray:
After he was arrested last weekend, a man suspected in a crime spree in which two women were killed told police he would have killed many more people if he had not been caught, a police source said Friday.
Even then, the Cook County state's attorney's office waited more than a day to charge him because authorities had not been able to interview him -- leading police to use a rarely used code allowing them to file charges on their own.
Finally, the tendency for the ASA's to try every case over the phone or in the Detective Areas is coming home to bite them in the ass. A double murderer was technically "free to leave" when the State insisted on interviewing him.
He's in a coma in the hospital under the influence of who knows what painkillers after being shot. And even if he wasn't, any defense attorney representing this piece of garbage isn't going to allow him to be interviewed under any circumstances.
So why the delay in charging? Politics. Pure and simple. And the citizens suffer.
He's in a coma in the hospital under the influence of who knows what painkillers after being shot. And even if he wasn't, any defense attorney representing this piece of garbage isn't going to allow him to be interviewed under any circumstances.
So why the delay in charging? Politics. Pure and simple. And the citizens suffer.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
44 Comments:
Anita new State's Attorney.
Hey, lay off Anita! She was at a very important fundraiser, for her!
Soooooo, let me get this straight. The CCSAO states it wants to C I this after the forty eight hour rule because the offender will still be under police guard....riddle me this...since they never shit and had to get off the pot....how the fuck is this possible I do quote the source:
"But those charges didn't hold up at a noon bond hearing Sunday, when an assistant state's attorney rejected them because the case was still under investigation. Amison, still hospitalized at the time, was technically free, the police source said.
But state's attorney's office spokeswoman Sally Daly said Friday that Amison would not have been able to go free.
""He remained hospitalized in custody. He should have still been under police custody regardless because he was a suspect in a murder,'' Daly said. She said it was "unheard of'' for police to bring charges in such a case."
Ms Daly is the spokesman for said office. I guess I am officially living in HE SAID SHE WORLD....
No, it is not politics. It is the ASA office being typically unable to adapt to real-world situations.
It is not in any law book - and they get confused. They have no balls. They have lost the 'eye of the tiger.' 25 year old kids who are using the ASA office for a stepping stone.
They could not care less.
They have no balls.
Keep sleeping and put more idiots in charge of Felony Review
They are having a very hard time pulling their heads out of their asses. It's hard to resemble a flock of "Legal Eagles" when Amost everyone there is a Turkey .!
When I call them I just ask them for a name to put on the arrest report for rejection. It's not worth the aggravation. It's often like explaining algebra to a kindergartner.
charges of unlawful restraint against the officers guarding him while he was technically free will be approved immediately
Anita's too busy carrying out vendettas with her Chief-of-Staff DK. Leave a message, maybe she'll get back to you. But probably not. She'll have an underling do it for her.
Detectives struggle on a daily basis with the incompetence of the Cook County ASA'S office. There are "suspects in murders" walking all over the streets of Chicago because of the Cook County state's attorneys.
IF HE HAD A RETAIL THEFT ON TOP OF THE MURDERS HE WOULDVE BEEN CHARGED WITH A FELONY IN A FIVE MINUTE PHONE CALL.
PROBLEM SOLVED.WTF!
Before anything is done by the State's Attorney nowadays it is run past her inner circle of coat holders to discern what political impact it may have. Will it alienate the blacks and the revs, will it offend the gays, will it give Anita good press, how will this play with every large voting bloc? Crucial charging decisions are being viewed through the prism of politics. It is a recipe for disaster and leaves the average citizen in grave danger.
I cannot recall a time when relations between the CPD and the SA's office have been worse. Instead of trying to form a working relationship it seems that the SA is always looking to find fault with the CPD and its members strictly for political gain.
OT - but HILARIOUS
You know, some coppers just can't do anything without joking around ! ! !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqpMSbS3I38&feature=player_embedded#
I will studiously avoid having to deal with felony review until the end of my career. That goal is not too far away. Anyone who goes out making aggressive arrests and tries to get felony charges on these mutts is taking their future and family's future and putting it in jeopardy.
I have gone to court and had the ASA's nolle pros cases or the judge finds no PC in an attempt to move things along. This leaves me in the jackpot for a false arrest suit. NO MORE! Tickets and a nap every day, that is it. And God help the ASA I stop while driving who flashes their ASA ID at me.
They are NOT on your side so look out for yourself!
So I'm not the only one who has noticed a sharp decline in the quality of state's attorneys since Anita took over?
Anita was and still is a H.D.O. political hack! Look at the Dupage County States Attorney, way more professional and a lot more experienced!
So now we can hold "suspects" in custody???? Beyond 48 hours? Thats a change in policy. The W/C definitely saved someone that night. If he walked, he wouldve done harm.
I'm very disappointed with Anita. There were many police, retired and current, who supported her and helped with her campaign. Once she got elected, she showed her true colors and turned her back on all of them with the exception of Hiram Grau. I didn't think she was a user, but she fooled me.
How many ASA's are still living at home with Mommy and Daddy?
P.S. ALOT
Once again proving education does not trump experience.
ASA's must really be pissed with CPD because they've been given PO's the blues when you call for felony approval or upgrades.More shit than usual. They want the written confession and the package signed, sealed and hand wrapped before you call.
Let's see. The three deputies that head Felony Review.
One is a bitter prick that thought he should have been promoted after the Ceriale case. Yeah. Officer Ceriale. He's waited that long. Now he acts like he writes the Princeton Law review. How would you like to sit through. six-hour handwritten. " Are you trying to tell me the law? Go back in there and get a statement. " Hey Bryne. We'd put you in the room with the psychopath but you'd probably shit yourself.
One is a fairly right-thinking American but appears to have gained her position based on the fact that she agressively worked in the campaign to elect Alvarez. Not suprising really given Cook County.
And last but certainly not least when it comes to poundage is the most miserable woman put on God's green earth. If it didn't come out of Area Four the Detective and the case was shit. One of Mama Cass' firsts acts as a Deputy was to have the victim's heart exumed to see if the murder weapon fit the wound. Hey Wood put down the five pound box of Turtles and turn off CSI.
Fuck 'em. Whenever thy CI or reject a case based on their bullshit make a call to your favorite media type and let them know everything.
Fun and games with the FRU are nothing new. I recall a domestic case (husband was victim) about 20 years ago where, after using every rejection excuse he could think of, the FRU ASA finally asked "Was there a line-up?"
That's right boys and girls. He wanted to know if the husband was able to identify his own wife in a line-up.
That's when we used a little gambit that was pretty effective back then and you may want to see if it still works.
We told the ASA never mind, we'll just call Pam Zekman and relay the facts to her. BINGO --- APPROVED!
You may hate them, but sometimes you can use the main stream media to your advantage. Try it.
Eleven years retired and enjoying every minute of it. STAY SAFE. YOUR MOST IMPORTANT JOB OF THE DAY IS GOING HOME.
anita hdo all the way! Hey anita still playing baseball in the office? You have nothing to do girl! now STFU!
Ask any Detective and they will tell you horror stories about the ASA when Dick Devine was the State'S Attorney. Things have now gotten far worse since this waste of space has taken over! This is for every officer out there. The Cook County State's Attorney office IS NOT YOUR FRIEND! Understand this THEY CANNOT get sued, its state law! Plus we are the only county in Illinois that has a felony review. All felony review is, is an agreement with the City of Chicago and Suburban Departments. Be very careful out there and make sure you cross your T's and dot your I's with them.
OK, here is what happened. The police department decided to charge based on a now recinded general order. Good or bad that is what they did. Worse, much, much more worse is what the CCSAO did. Nolled the case. This was nothing more than a pissing match. Hey, Jim Byrne, you did consult with somebody before you did this right? Becaese to nolle a murder case is unheard of for good reason. Yes, Jim, you put this case in peril with your grossly inflated sense of self worth.
What really is interesting about this is the police depatment leaking the story to the Sun Times. Seems like another salvo fired in this on going war. Jim, you might want to get ready to be a first chair in Markham.
Due to budget cuts, the light at the end of the tunnel has been shut off.
That is all.....
The simple truth is the ASA's are for the most part inexperienced clout heavy kids. They have no intention of staying ASA's. I don't blame them. They make less then PPO's. Truth is it should be a career job, with appropriate pay, and benefit incentives.
Most ASA's I have been in court with, don't even know the basics of case presentation, foundation, etc.
They are arrogant if the PO or Detective, attempts to help them present a case. They are very nervous, a sign of insecure behavior.
PS: Who Cares Anyway, Have a Nice
Day ?????
About 15 years ago in Area 2 a police officer got shot in the vest by criminal who just robbed a dice game with a partner and was leaving the place. He was id'd by two cops outside. And that was it. The dicks didn't bother to even interview about 30 people inside the place.
Felony review ci'd the case for the rest of the witnesses to be inerviewed.
Area 2 didn't like that and asked for charges only on the police shooting, and the ASA approves it like that. The damn case came in that way.
The FR supervisor was so mad he had the ASAs who approved it go and try to put the case back together and get everyone interviewed. Zero cooperation from the dicks. Area 2 was like that then.
Bottom line: jury finds defendant not guilty. Guess what the jury was hung up on?
And before you doubt this with logic like: why wouldn't the police want to make sure everything was done right in the case where one of their own was shot???...yeah, that's what we thought too!!!
Don't bother locking anyone up. Soon the bottom-of-the-law school class ASA's won't have anyone to prosecute and they will start cutting their workforce. This is the best thing for the County and it would save a bunch of money. They aren't your friends, they are more concerned about prosecuting cops for DUI and bar beatings than trying to convict murders, rapists and gangbangers.
Felony Review sucks. I do whatever I can to avoid dealing with those jerkoffs.
Alvarez doesn't run the SAO. She has her Cocksucker Dan Kirk ruin the place.
He was formally and legally charged by the Chicago Police Department.
The ASA went to a PC hearing to nolle the case for the specific purpose of denying the defendant a lawyer during a future interview. Had the ASA requested a finding of PC instead of dropping the case, a public defender would have been assigned to the defendant. At that point, the defendant's lawyer MUST BE PRESENT if the defendant is interrogated for the crime on which he is charged.
Here's the good part. The ASA's are immune from suit. They will say they only "observed" when the detectives conducted their illegal interview and they simply nolle prosed the case because they had insufficent evidence at that time. It is the detectives who will be sued for conducting an interview under a conspiracy to deprive the defendant of legal counsel.
Anything learned from the interview or discovered thereafter will be inadmissible in the criminal case. The detectives will be sued in federal court for violating the defendant's 4th and 5th ammendment rights. The fact that they committed this crime at the request of the ASAs will not protect them.
The detectives should have refused to conduct any interview. Once the case was nolle pros at Branch 66, the case should have been exceptionally cleared closed with the refusal of the ASA to press charges. Then, the ASAs could have indicted the defendant and issued a warrant for his arrest.
Now what happens?
Possible not guilty (but not likely since the political hack judge will protect the political hack ASAs). Definite law suit against police where city settles possibly to a plaintiff serving a life sentence for murder.
Either way the ASAs have insured the defendant will have endless appeals for this mess. But, in the end the ASAs will just blame the police.
We do NOT work for the ASAs. The things they tell you to do, particullary at Felony Review, are wrong and illegal, but they tell you to do them anyway because they'll never be held accountable.
You will.
If you are a PO, never take the dick test. Its simply not worth the trouble or the risk. The possible damages that can be assessed against you by plaintiff's who spend years behind bars before trial on serious crimes are enormous. The only reason to ever be a dick is the money and there are plenty of other OT opportunities on this job.
Being a dick means you are constantly middled by ASAs and department bosses, who do not know how to investigate a case under these ultra-restrictive rules and who will turn their back on you when you are sued.
Just do 20 , leave, and study for the Sgt. test along the way. If you get it, you get a much bigger pension.
Protect yourself from the people who mean to do you harm, including bosses and ASAs.
Anonymous said...
I'm very disappointed with Anita. There were many police, retired and current, who supported her and helped with her campaign. Once she got elected, she showed her true colors and turned her back on all of them with the exception of Hiram Grau. I didn't think she was a user, but she fooled me.
12/20/2009 11:39:00 AM
What are you talking about?
The Cook County States Attorney Investigator's office is flooded with nothing but former useless CPD.
The Assistant Chief Investigator being Grau for one. Then how about all the other bosses/PO's that Weis ran off they're all there or were there including Cziewski who just left to go to UIC PD.
I'm glad that I wasn't imagining that the ASAs were getting worse. I've called up felony review, told them "I've got 5 witnesses here who all saw John Doe do it. You want to talk to them?" "Call me back when you get an arrest." Then a day or 2 later, when John DOE is arrested, the ASA says "You need to get me those witnesses so I can talk to them." Now it'll take days to track them all down...They ask for line-ups for everything lately- if it's domestic related (as a previous writer stated), if you already have a confession on tape or even when the cameras caught it, etc...Hey, when you have a solid case, what happens if the line-up fails? The defense would love that. I recently had an ASA ask me, after I described the offender's actions, "Well, I don't know, seems strange, why would anybody do that?" So now I have to psycho-analyze the mope before I get charges? What planet do these new ASAs come from?.....In 22 years, I have never seen so many cases C.I.ed, nobody wants to make a decision....... But don't forget:They have immunity, we don't.
I haven't had any problem getting approvals for UUW and Felony retail theft since Alvarez took over the office. I've heard horror stories from other coppers, but I haven't had any problems.
Even the Agg Batts to POs have all been approved through her office.
Maybe it's all in the preparation/presentation, guys...
"12/20/2009 05:41:00 PM"
holy shit, man, you just let the cat out of the bag.....
A number of years ago my partner and I requested charges in a homicide only to get a c.i. in order to find the gun that was used. If it had been possible to recover the weapon it would have been included along with other evidence, witness statements, etc. It should be noted that we had had problems with this asa in the past.
I then asked where I should start to look for the gun and was told by the asa that she did not know.
As we didn't know either we did nothing, went home and the next day called felony review again and told them that we could not find the gun. They sent us a real attorney and charges were approved.
Revenge is sweet however because some time later in an unrelated case, when the same asa was in a trail court she asked me to testify about something that I knew nothing about. After I told her that she said, "well, can't you just say" and I replied no, I cannot and will not.
Be very careful with some of these people.
12/20 5:41 pm--- well said--- the snakes that will bite you are in the station houses and on the fifth floor.... they wear white shirts and call themselves bosses and tell you that they have your back 200 percent... the only back they have is their own... when you get into trouble on this job you see who is really sticking the knife in your back and twisting it--- it is not the shithead who is making a beef against you that you need to worry about....
Anonymous said...
I'm very disappointed with Anita. There were many police, retired and current, who supported her and helped with her campaign. Once she got elected, she showed her true colors and turned her back on all of them with the exception of Hiram Grau. I didn't think she was a user, but she fooled me.
12/20/2009 11:39:00 AM
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Obviously you and those other current and retired P.O's are friggin MORONS! She rean her entire campaign on putting police behind bars!
CCSAO is salivating over the crash on the stevenson ex-way. The majority of Cook County ASAs have wet dreams about charging cops with crimes, especially DUI. Charging real criminals doesn't appeal to them just people who might have made a mistake.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/12/man-accused-of-raping-abducting-4-charged-in-earlier-rape.html
from the article:
"Jimmie Smith, 34, of the 7100 block of South Hermitage, was denied bond by Cook County Judge Peggy Chiampas in connection with the September 2008 attack. Prosecutors said the victim is a relative of Smith's girlfriend, and he allegedly entered her bedroom and sexually assaulted her. When the woman tried to escape, Smith beat her in an alley and then took her back to the home, where he assaulted her a second time.
But prosecutors said in court that while police arrested him at the time, the state's attorney's office did not approve charges then.
The following May, Smith allegedly subjected the victim and the three other women and girls to a 36-hour ordeal in which he allegedly tied them up, sexually assaulted them, and eventually took them to a garage in Harvey, where he abandoned them.
A spokeswoman for the Cook County State's Attorney's office said that prosecutors initially declined to approve charges in the 2008 case because of a lack of evidence."
ut oh.......
Anonymous said...
Before anything is done by the State's Attorney nowadays it is run past her inner circle of coat holders to discern what political impact it may have. Will it alienate the blacks and the revs, will it offend the gays, will it give Anita good press, how will this play with every large voting bloc? Crucial charging decisions are being viewed through the prism of politics. It is a recipe for disaster and leaves the average citizen in grave danger.
I cannot recall a time when relations between the CPD and the SA's office have been worse. Instead of trying to form a working relationship it seems that the SA is always looking to find fault with the CPD and its members strictly for political gain.
12/20/2009 08:45:00 AM
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Its not just CPD that is having to deal with this B.S. The suburban PD's are constantly getting jerked around by these new rules of hers. ALL FELONIES now must have in person lineups!!! Its one thing when you have a central lockup full of people, or a ready population just outside the PD, but in the burbs, finding 6-7 dudes for a line up at 3am might be a little hard to do. Plus they send out rookies fresh out of law school, none of whom can make a command decision. They all need to make 2-3 tx calls to get their boss to approve anything, and since the boss is now on the hook, they make ridiculous demands to ensure that the case is denied. The old joke of "calling felony denial" has unfortunately come true. Real felony cases are getting approved much less that ever before, but Anita keeps her stats up by allowing anyone to approve a felony dope case and approving every and all felony DUI's and retail thefts. It is straight up bull shit. She is putting her career and that of her minions (Hey Fabio, you out there !!!) above the safety of the public. Fitzgerald should charge her with "THEFT OF HONEST SERVICE" under federal charges and clean the house out.
Some ASA's must read this blog. I wish they would come here and give us their take. I'd like to know how many felony referrals get approved vs. how many are denied and what guidelines are used to determine why.
I do know Anita got pimped by a suburban prosecutor over why felony review summarily nolled on a woman caught redhanded driving a stolen car in the city. Ordinarily Cook County would have the better case as there are officers who actually saw her at the wheel so why would they just dump it, especially with a cooperative victim? And why didn't the felony review ASA call out to the burbs? Most of the time outside Cook County the other counties actually try to talk to and work with each other. I've been to Lake, Kenosha, DuPage and Winnebago...places where they seem to understand that there are dangerous dirtbags and they don't need a committee to make a decision. (And when a search warrant was needed in Kenosha for a homicide case, it only took 90 minutes. Even with two hours driving it was still was faster. Go figure.)
I do know Anita got pimped by a suburban prosecutor over why felony review summarily nolled on a woman caught redhanded driving a stolen car in the city. Ordinarily Cook County would have the better case as there are officers who actually saw her at the wheel so why would they just dump it, especially with a cooperative victim? And why didn't the felony review ASA call out to the burbs? Most of the time outside Cook County the other counties actually try to talk to and work with each other. I've been to Lake, Kenosha, DuPage and Winnebago...places where they seem to understand that there are dangerous dirtbags and they don't need a committee to make a decision. (And when a search warrant was needed in Kenosha for a homicide case, it only took 90 minutes. Even with two hours driving it was still was faster. Go figure.)
12/24/2009 04:54:00 AM
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