Headquarter Rumors
HQ rumors abound!
- The summer festival season must be upon the horizon. HQ has started switching the day off groups of the weekenders to cover the non-existent manpower shortages;
- Informational Services is going to be disbanded and the work farmed out to a connected Shortshanks relative. Just what we need;
- Direct from the fans in the Patrol Division - Special Employment revamp on the way - all based on activity numbers.
Hey, it's rumors. What do you expect?
Labels: rumors
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
171 Comments:
TAKE AWAY HAMILTON"s TAKE HOME CAR FOR STARTERS!!! WHY DOES HE NEED THAT? How much does that Cost?
Special employment based on activity, eh?
Hey, boss! What's my quota that I need in order to work special employment? What's that? I'm sorry. I didn't hear you. Yes, boss, I asked what is my QUOTA for activity in order to get special employment? Also, could you put that in writing please.
P.S. Hey, you detectives,I guess you better take out some parkers, movers and contact cards with you on that follow-up, or witness interview. Can't work special without activity.
What a bunch of jags! Very equitable and fair system you got there you 35th/Mich brain children.
Finally, some rumors on this blog that most of the dept. would like to see actually happen!!
Did anybody watch the channel 7 piece about that goof from 009 P.K. ? What a dipshit! Just what we needed, another jagoff that couldnt control his drinking. I heard that guy is a real stroke.
Off topic: MSN has a site for the 12 worst cities in America. Two were in Michigan, two in Ohio, even Miami made the list....as did SHITCAGO! Thanks Mayor Daley
(even though the article only mentions long commute times, no mention of all of our corrupt public officials, including our Governors, hmmmm....)
I hope all those dogs stay at HQ. They are no help to us on the street. "Back to the Streets" is a complete joke. These people dont even know how to work a radio. They just drive around and dodge jobs all day long. They do more harm than good on the street. Stay inside, dummies.
I also really hope that special employment could be based on an officer's activity. Reward the workers that have earned it. Operation Safe City has become a complete joke. Its all do nothings with 20+ years on the job who have been inside for most of their career. The entire Safe City program will soon be gone due to these lazy slobs. The Lt. in charge has to beg these people to just drive around all night and not to pull over and nap, and these people still cry. They dont bring in activity because they dont know how to be the police. They wont even do a few contact cards. Operation Safe City will not be around too much longer because of this. Its federally funded, but when they open the books they will see that no work is getting done.
With 14 years on the job, I finally got a Safe City day last period after 5 periods of being rejected, and I only got it because somebody cancelled and I got called of the list. The female that I got stuck working with didnt know how to put a battery in the radio, she had no clue on how to work the PDT (and it was an old black PDT), she had no clue that we had to pump our own gas, and she didnt know how to turn the mars lights on. I would have felt safer if my 8 year old son was riding shotgun with his slingshot. The first job we rode on was a burglary in progress with an open door, and as we pulled up I looked at her and she was pale white and trembling. She never went 10 feet from the squad car as I went into the house alone.
I talked to a few other working coppers that night who all had similar stories about there clueless partners. Why should these people be rewarded with special employment?
It's an officer safety issue. Let these cowards stay inside and retire so that the real police dont get killed.
I know that this female copper will probably read this because all she talked about all night was about how she reads this blog religiously. But, I really dont care because she is nothing but overpaid secretary with a gun.
is this really suprising?????
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February 17, 2010 11:00 PM |
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That dubious distinction bestowed by the non-partisan Washington-based think tank weighs heavily over Illinois's current budget mess that has left Gov. Pat Quinn and lawmakers with a coming record $13 billion deficit in the state's main checkbook to try and close by summer.
Read more in Clout Street.
all watch captains will be sent to magic class immediately so they can learn how to pull a rabbit out of a hat--- tough times ahead for the blue boys-- will this shit ever end......
anyone see chuck goudies ch 7 i-team report on patrick kelly--the od cop from 009 who accidentally shot his friend in the head after drinking all nite??? kelly was arrested. im not a chuck goudie fan, but thanx for showing the truth about this jagoff pat kelly.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=7283729
GOOD
The Superintendent has a oppurtunity to restore a bit of his credibility here. We alla wait with baited breath to see if the true "special" people will ever see the streets. We all wonder if the HQ darlings related by marriage [not necessarily with the same last name for obvious reasons] will ever see the street. Oh foolish me!!! All I can do is hope.
Heard from a good source that all personnell investigations will be outsourced March 1....going to none other than Terry Hillard's security company.
SCC...protect your sources! I'll bet their scrambling to figure out who the leak is. And that could expose them and you. I'm just say'n.
"The summer festival season must be upon the horizon. HQ has started switching the day off groups of the weekenders to cover the non-existent manpower shortages;"
Doesn't this happen in one form or another, almost every year?
They never learn.
Well someone better grieve the special employment gig if they base it on numbers.
Your 3rd watch people are ALWAYS going to have the highest numbers in activity because they are the busiest watch.
SPECIAL EMPLOYMENT IS BASED ON ONES SENORITY NOT ON PRODUCTIVITY. IF THE BOSSES DON’T KNOW THAT BY NOW, WE ARE IN WORSE SHAPE THAN ANY OF US HAS THAUGHT. THE UNION BETTER NIP THIS IN THE ASS RIGHT AWAY. OH YEA THAT’S RIGHT OUR UNION BENDS TO EVERY WISH THE CITY WANTS . WHAT A JOKE
Borat is feeling the heat in the 017! The police academy p.o."s are tired of seeing MIKE MEALER every week at the training academy trying to get the vacant COMMANDER'S SPOT. MIKE they don't want you there either!
Hey! How many CTA bus checks will it take for me to work special?
Look for a few Gold Star Retirements very soon, another change is coming.
So in other words, nothing has changed. As far as getting special employment, wasn't that tied to the new and improved Employee Evaluations? If I remember correctly (and lately that's been the exception), if you score anything but meets expectations on your evaluation your chances of getting special is curtailed or just right out denied?
2/18/2010 02:22:00 AM
You are a true hero...in your own mind!
Keep being a he-man and see where it gets you!
To the hard chargers talking about activity based special, remember that "activity" is based on a P.O.'s assingment.
So if John works the desk in 007 his activity is different than Jane who works beat 731.
See you at special...oh yea I won't, you don't have enough time to get it.
Bwaahahahaha!
"The female that I got stuck working with didnt know how to put a battery in the radio, she had no clue on how to work the PDT (and it was an old black PDT), she had no clue that we had to pump our own gas, and she didnt know how to turn the mars lights on. I would have felt safer if my 8 year old son was riding shotgun with his slingshot. The first job we rode on was a burglary in progress with an open door, and as we pulled up I looked at her and she was pale white and trembling. She never went 10 feet from the squad car as I went into the house alone."
She should be fired. A useless waste of taxpayer $$$, and unable or unwilling to back up a working PO. The same story as the female mentioned on Ispeeved. That useless ISP chickenshit woman resulted in the death of a citizen. A complete waste of a star, a gun and a squad car. Dump these dogs and hire someone else, such a veteran returning from the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan.
anyone see chuck goudies ch 7 i-team report on patrick kelly--the od cop from 009 who accidentally shot his friend in the head after drinking all nite??? kelly was arrested. im not a chuck goudie fan, but thanx for showing the truth about this jagoff pat kelly.
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Real nice....kick the poor bastard in the head during the worse time in his life. Like many of us weren't assholes who drank too much and did stupid shit when we were young. I almost hope this is a personal grudge cause if you don't feel a little sympathy for this poor bastard you are a poor excuse.
sorry o.t.
In regards to the channel 7 news story about the off duty cop and the shooting, it's nice to see the news do an impartial piece. I don't know the officer, whether or not he is a tool, which some people have posted, I just hope the real truth comes out. When I first heard the parents were suing the officer, I thought, here we go again. Another family trying to cash in on the city.
After watching the news I was impressed by the dignity shown by the parents, especially the father. They aren't out for blood, they just want the medical coverage they feel there son deserves. As the father said at the end of the segment, he doesn't think it was a suicide attempt or an intentional shooting.
It made me sick to my stomach how the insurance company already tried to weasel there way out of paying for the coverage. Hopefully, this case will be resolved and the victim recovers fully.
The book, "The Choirboys," by Joseph Wambaugh, should be mandatory reading in the academy. Sure, it shows all the fun, laughter, and wild stuff that happens when cops get together to go boozing, but it also shows in the end, the senseless tragedy's that can happen when we have too much to drink. Sorry about the long post. Everybody please be careful out there.
GREAT COMMENT 2/18/2010 02:22:00 AM!
Well said! Unbelievable! Of course you're going to have the dumbass old timers saying "go put some more hair gel on." But honestly man fuck them, great write!
There we go, driving a wedge between us based on a rumor. We just can't get together on anything, can we?
Special based on activity or seniority. That ought to get the knives out and all the smart ass comments.
Special employment based on numbers???? Looks like I wont be getting any since I have 1 arrest this year and do not see any in the future. Oh wait I dont work special I live within my means and have a life outside this crap job.
Not that I work special alot, but why shouldn't it be based on activity?
I would agree with this change.
If you're not doing shit at your regular position, why should you be rewarded with extra 'work'?
Informational Services is going to be disbanded . . .
Oh No!!!!!!!!!!
Deputy Chief Meritorious Al Wysinger's play wife will have to go back to patrol?!?!?!?
Haaa! Yeah right!
**********Bill Cozzi***********
I just got off the phone w/Bill...10:45 a.m. 18 Feb 10
If anyone can give an update about how the hearing went, how many people were there, I'd appreciate it. He is going to call me later.
I was going to go but could not reschedule an appt.
Thanks.
Look for a few Gold Star Retirements very soon, another change is coming.
2/18/2010 09:00:00 AM
Heard from reliable source that 4 more Gold Star's throwing in the towel by March 31st.
I think thats great....Working officers should be given FIRST choice of Special Employment....and everything else for that matter....The DOGS should get NOTHING....Why should they get time and a half to sit their lazy asses in a car and do nothing but stuff their filthy pie holes and come in with nothing?? BRAVO to the department on making this change....hope it's true!! Next please impliment that standard to tact teams and units....that would weed out plenty of dead wood who are just there to sample the oxygen... ALL Units should be based on activity!! ALL UNITS..... You will get more bang for your buck.... Pray that this happens!!
To 2/18/2010 04:57:00 AM
You are a STROKE. You have no idea what you are talking about. And to post it on the web just shows you are a STROKE. Maybe you should talk to the dicks first before posting, Assmunch!
Direct from the fans in the Patrol Division - Special Employment revamp on the way - all based on activity numbers.
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I don't believe anyone should have to bust their ass on their day off HOWEVER..
We we work "Operation Safe City"; the lieutenant states that the P.O.s should come in at the end of the night with SOMETHING..
as little as maybe some parkers and some contact cards.
Hell all you have to do is park for a while and and make some shit up!!!
The government audits this program and they decide if more federal money should be used to fund it.
Sure enough.. when everyone comes in at the end of the night there are always a few that have NOTHING for activity.
Last week two F/1 coppers who were about 80 pounds overweight came in 20 minutes early for checkoff and stated "we couldn't find anything".
I SAY:
Get rid of these do nothing pieces of shit dogs and let the guys who have families to support get some days.
I heard it wasn't special employment but it was "safe streets", you know the time and a half gig that you need 20 plus years to get. It seems that the vets would show up and take the money but do little else. Can't say that I blame them but its not gonna last. By the way, precedent has already been set, roadside safety missions are time and a half and based solely on activity. Good luck with the grievance.
I hope all those dogs stay at HQ. They are no help to us on the street. "Back to the Streets" is a complete joke. These people dont even know how to work a radio. They just drive around and dodge jobs all day long. They do more harm than good on the street. Stay inside, dummies.
2/18/2010 02:22:00 AM
Who is the real dummy? Officers from 35th street work 4 weeks a year on the street. What can we expect from them? I am glad you feel obligated to fight crime for this mayor. Keep up the good work and bring the revenue my friend. You will be rewarded. We need those few workers to take the heat off the majority of offciers who are no aggressive. By the way, tell the officer to her face instead of using the blog.
2/18/2010 02:22:00 AM
Stop it "hair gel" when you get real time on the job you can get more "special"! Sorry the KMA members all ready did all the runnin and gunnin,now it is your turn,and like other jobs the senior guys get the better "perks"! That is why we ahve the FOP, not great but better than nothing,they fought for SENIORITY RIGHTS! When i work special on my day off no,I and many don't want to get into shit! Not to hard to understand is it? Now go back to mom's basement and STFU!
OT - Here is the Better Govt Association's investigative report, released today:
Corruption in Cook County:
Anti-Corruption Report Number 3
February 18, 2010
It's a pdf file, 33 pages long.
http://www.uic.edu/depts/pols/ChicagoPolitics
/Anti-corruptionReportNumber3.pdf
Putting Cozzi in prison for his wrong is totally unjust.
This is similar to the military & our leaders who are in the process of putting the Navy Seals on trial for punching the Taliban leader in the stomach upon his capture. It was an emotional incident. He should have been shot dead during his capture.
These incidents do not deserve the actions now being taken by the prosecutors or our leaders.
Now, do the right thing...
SPECIAL EMPLOYMENT IS BASED ON ONES SENORITY NOT ON PRODUCTIVITY. IF THE BOSSES DON’T KNOW THAT BY NOW, WE ARE IN WORSE SHAPE THAN ANY OF US HAS THAUGHT. THE UNION BETTER NIP THIS IN THE ASS RIGHT AWAY. OH YEA THAT’S RIGHT OUR UNION BENDS TO EVERY WISH THE CITY WANTS . WHAT A JOKE
2/18/2010 08:07:00 AM
P.S. Hey, you detectives,I guess you better take out some parkers, movers and contact cards with you on that follow-up, or witness interview. Can't work special without activity.
What a bunch of jags! Very equitable and fair system you got there you 35th/Mich brain children.
2/18/2010 01:22:00 AM
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I agree seniority is a reason to get special but it is not a good reason. There really should be some kind of standard or something. If you don't want to work the streets regularly then you shouldn't be able to do it for special.
As far as Detectives.... if they can't make O.T. (through court or ext of tour)on their regular job, then they aren't very good at being a detective.
Just saying......
To: 2/18/2010 02:22:00 AM
Boo Boo. Get some time on the Job kid. Seniority is the only thing we have going for us. If you want to get rid of it just wait. All the people with clout will get special before you then you will be crying again. At least seniority is fair. Just because you got a bad partner who works inside does not mean all of the inside people are bad. I have worked special with a hell of a lot of dogs who are district people. "I work in Fillmore!" Woo Hoo, big deal and there aint no Fillmore anymore. Trust me there are as many cowards working outside as inside.
I know your type. You think you are the hardest worker that ever showed up on CPD and everyone else is stupid. If you have 14 years on as you say you should know better by now but you are obviously a slow learner. Oh. and trust me, nobody likes working with you either.
any update on the cozzi hearing?
TAKE AWAY HAMILTON"s TAKE HOME CAR FOR STARTERS!!! WHY DOES HE NEED THAT? How much does that Cost?
I think hamilton is a self absorbed jerk but man coppers get jealous... I understand you dont like someone but dont be jealous because someone has a spot and you either use to have a spot or dont have a spot with a perk... Ive been in patrol for the majority of my career.. trust me, these guys come and go. Everyone will get a perk and some people dont deserve them but to get jealous is childish. Be a man and stop acting like a little girl. jealousy and whining is supposed to be something a chicago police officer never does... or at least never did. That started in the past 15 years with all the college educated, "i deserved everything" kids who have come on this job. look ahead, do your job and dont step in the bullshit. youll just get bitter and stressed out.
Section 16 in the contract, the only reasons they can deny Special Employment....relax, unless the new contract changes everything !!!!
Look for a few Gold Star Retirements very soon, another change is coming.
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100% true. commander ryan from tru is going to central control group. Keating is pulling the pin, and kupczyk from 008 is getting true.
The Cozzi hearing is now available online via audio.
http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/fdocs/docs.fwx
You have to enter the case number, which is 09-2648
It runs a little over a half hour. The beginning doesn't sound encouraging, but it gets better. No way to tell how it will go. If I had to guess, I would say Bill will win.
anyone see chuck goudies ch 7 i-team report on patrick kelly--the od cop from 009 who accidentally shot his friend in the head after drinking all nite??? kelly was arrested. im not a chuck goudie fan, but thanx for showing the truth about this jagoff pat kelly.
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It's never nice to eat your own. We have enough bad press as it is.
Ed O'Donnell demoted to Captain. He is leaving in a couple months and angry he didn't get promoted. Its to bad because he was a great Commander and real good boss. Another one bites the dust.
With 14 years on the job, I finally got a Safe City day last period after 5 periods of being rejected
WOW! 14 years on, eh? Should have known. Had to wipe the salt dust off my computer screen as I read your post.
Just remember junior, seniority is a straight forward issue. It is not subject to the many interpretations such as your activity.
To decide whether or not an officer is allowed to work special based on their activity, the department will have to provide a baseline to follow. But if they do that, then you are talking quotas. And they will NEVER admit to having quotas because that is a can of worms that even ShortShanks does not want opened.
Just look at the new evaluations that everyone has to go through. How do you compare the activity of a P.O. who works a beat car and a P.O. who works the front office?
You can't evaluate them on the same issues.
I hope all those dogs stay at HQ. They are no help to us on the street. "Back to the Streets" is a complete joke. These people dont even know how to work a radio. They just drive around and dodge jobs all day long. They do more harm than good on the street. Stay inside, dummies.
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Take it easy warrior. When my partner and I were in a certain district, we were scolded by po's because we were coding the jobs out before they got there because they wanted to dog the jobs out. We really dodged that foot chase involving a PSMV and after catching the driver of the car, we had the audacity to give the arrest to the beat guys. What dogs we were. I laugh to myself when I arrive on jobs with tough guys like yourself when I work back to the street because you dont even acknowledge our existence even when we are there to help you out. Next time, if you're a man enough, you can tell me what a douche bag I am to my face, but dont worry I'd laugh that off too because you are just an insecure, angry person that I actually feel sorry for.
Sadly enough, I'd still haul ass over to your 10-1 to help you out.
I work in HQ. I heard that the FS/SM day off groups are going to start 4th period. Last year they started 3rd period...maybe this year too? Either way, I know I have it better than the guys in the districts in the fact that I am not getting beat down by radio calls everyday...but with the new 4/2 schedule, the fact that OT is nonexistent inside and that, at least last year, i went from march to almost november without a full weekend off...not to mention the BS politics here, working in a district doesn't seem like such a bad option anymore.
various segments of Special salaries are paid by the Government, not CPD, so I don't see how this system could be used for those positions salaried by th U.S. Government. dose the Government pay their employees by the quantity of work they do? I don't think so. What about our Union, have they been presented with this? I doubt it. Therefore, I call Bullshit.
OT - I thought we could use a laugh!
Chicago has openings for two good men or women
CHICAGO (Reuters) - Help wanted: registered voter with a conscience for position on the Chicago City Council. Salary $110,556 a year. Ex-felons need not apply.
Chicago Mayor Richard Daley decided to take a different approach to fill two vacancies on the city's 50-member city council, posting a notice on the city's website listing qualifications for the job.
Candidates should be registered voters, have lived in the ward for a least a year and provide three letters of recommendation attesting to their community involvement. No current politicians, tax delinquents or anyone convicted of any "infamous crime, bribery, perjury or other felony" need apply.
One vacancy was created when the previous office-holder pleaded guilty to illegally accepting favors from a developer.
The aldermanic appointments will be the mayor's 34th and 35th, and he has indicated he is fed up with the high rate of malfeasance in the council.
"You've got to start somewhere," Daley spokesman Lance Lewis said. "We want to encourage residents who are interested to apply."
OT - I am so glad we are covered if this type of thing happened here! BTW who has the plan?
Small plane is crashed into Texas tax offices - An apparently disgruntled man crashed a small plane into a federal building housing U.S. tax offices in Austin, Texas on Thursday, and federal officials said it may have been a deliberate attack.
May have been deliberate? He burned his fuckin house before the kamikaze flight!
To all you people out there talking about making special based on activity what is the criteria? If you get a chick like Missy (I know shes fake but we all know someone like her), our resident parking guru, who writes hundreds of parkers does that mean she gets it before the Officer who only recovers one gun a period? Please define activity. Is running after pookie for a dime bag activity? Is locking up drinkers activity? What about ANOVS? Some districts all you do is go from job to job and when you run after pookie you take yourself off the street making your fellow Officers answer more jobs.
At least Seniority is something tangible. We all have a seniority date and will get time on the job. Its the only fair way for those without clout. If you have a better system by all means post it.
"....working in a district doesn't seem like such a bad option anymore.
2/18/2010 03:27:00 PM"
make the move, then.
Borat is feeling the heat in the 017! The police academy p.o."s are tired of seeing MIKE MEALER every week at the training academy trying to get the vacant COMMANDER'S SPOT. MIKE they don't want you there either!
2/18/2010 08:46:00 AM
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Actually, he would be a breath of fresh air in a sinking ship.
Another rumor gathering steam on the 5th floor at Headquarters is that RayRay is being positioned to become the next commander of MSF.
RayRay is currently in SWAT school as one of the new Sgts. selected.
Word is that RR will be meritoriously promoted to Lt. in the next class, and that shortly after that, will bump out the Old Man commander who is keeping the seat warm for him. The old man is very close to mandatory retirement age anyway, so there's no real loss of brains there. Watch and see it happen before the end of this year.
35th St. Warrior says: Seniority Rules, if you don't have enough STFU!! By the way I've never worked or put in for any form of special and am damn proud of it. Have worked in different districts and places and on a bad/dog day of mine would do more work than 75% of you bad rough and tough "real police street coppers". Notice I didn't claim 100%. I'm realistic. Hell yous guys couldn't tell the difference b/w a "street copper" and a 15 year old, who worked half a tour with a partner before being outed. I'm sure you could spot criminals (sarcasm). All I ever hear from my former co-workers in the district is that I am lucky and that they hope that they could get an inside spot. Every copper, if asked, would chose to work a straight day M-F tour, if you say you wouldn't , your lying!! Thank You and that is all. 1 more day and then I'm off S/S. Enjoy and back each other up and stay safe.
off topic I know...but do they still have the judo club at the academy?
anyone see chuck goudies ch 7 i-team report on patrick kelly--the od cop from 009 who accidentally shot his friend in the head after drinking all nite??? kelly was arrested. im not a chuck goudie fan, but thanx for showing the truth about this jagoff pat kelly.
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Real nice....kick the poor bastard in the head during the worse time in his life. Like many of us weren't assholes who drank too much and did stupid shit when we were young. I almost hope this is a personal grudge cause if you don't feel a little sympathy for this poor bastard you are a poor excuse.
2/18/2010 10:37:00 AM
OK let me get this straight you want others to feel sorry for him because as you say "He drank too much and did something stupid." I would say shooting someone in the back of the head is a little more than being drunk and doing something stupid. Remind me to never go out drinking with you. You might drink too much and do something stupid too!! ASSHAT
some of the toughest coppers on this job haven't written a mover or parker their entire career.... you either have it or you don't--- writing tickets doesn't make you a better copper so the benchmark for working special employment is and should be seniority....
If you look at numbers/activity the old SOS was the best. Now all you super stars can say what you want but if it comes to numbers/activity they were the best.
Best of luck to Capt. Konet. He will be missed.
Anonymous said...
Informational Services is going to be disbanded . . .
Oh No!!!!!!!!!!
Deputy Chief Meritorious Al Wysinger's play wife will have to go back to patrol?!?!?!?
Haaa! Yeah right!
2/18/2010 10:58:00 AM
Are you saying that they will no longer have matching his and hers take home cars????
I've known P.K. since we were kids. Hung out, worked, and fished together. He's a great guy who loves his friends and the job.
Anyone who says otherwise would obviously rather believe malicious rumors and condemn one of their own than give him the benefit of the doubt, or look at the evidence, or trust the dets determination. Like a shithead.
I work in HQ. I heard that the FS/SM day off groups are going to start 4th period. Last year they started 3rd period...maybe this year too? Either way, I know I have it better than the guys in the districts in the fact that I am not getting beat down by radio calls everyday...but with the new 4/2 schedule, the fact that OT is nonexistent inside and that, at least last year, i went from march to almost november without a full weekend off...not to mention the BS politics here, working in a district doesn't seem like such a bad option anymore.
2/18/2010 03:27:00 PM
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BOO-HOO!! My heart really bleeds for you.
Real nice....kick the poor bastard in the head during the worse time in his life. Like many of us weren't assholes who drank too much and did stupid shit when we were young. I almost hope this is a personal grudge cause if you don't feel a little sympathy for this poor bastard you are a poor excuse.
2/18/2010 10:37:00 AM
Yeah, I drank and did stupid shit. Very stupid shit. However, I never shot my best friend while under the influence. No, I'm not the original poster.
Why do you think the 275 PO's detailed to the area gun teams were transferred in a few weeks ago??
So the Department can bolster manpower where it wants to with who it wants.
Since you are no longer detailed, but assigned, and no District Patrol does not "own" you, you can be sent ANYWHERE. Live in 016?...welcome to 009...
I never worked with Pat Kelly and I don't know if he was a tool. I also have no clue what happened that night in his home and I am not going to judge him until the truth comes out. I just watched that news clip and even the victim's father said he didn't believe Pat shot his son. How can we throw one of our own under the bus before the truth comes out? If he did it, it seems to me like he would have been locked up for the shooting. He wasn't. I also think it sucks that the news media can put a police officer's house and address on the news- it's not safe. I just think we throw each other under the bus too quickly sometimes. Pat may have liked his cocktails but that doesn't make him a guy who tried to kill his high school buddy. It just doesn't add up.
Ed O'Donnell demoted to Captain. He is leaving in a couple months and angry he didn't get promoted. Its to bad because he was a great Commander and real good boss. Another one bites the dust.
2/18/2010 03:00:00 PM
Have to say you are wrong there's a reason behind him asking to go out as a Capt.You will see more exempts doing this in the very near future.
GREAT COMMENT 2/18/2010 02:22:00 AM!
Well said! Unbelievable! Of course you're going to have the dumbass old timers saying "go put some more hair gel on." But honestly man fuck them, great write!
2/18/2010 10:39:00 AM
what a surprise you work in 007 too....
when was that last contract signed????? everyone should be a DOG!
I had the pleasure of being assigned to the School patrol unit a few years back, they dumped all these crybabies into it for 90 days, bosses little girls and kids from the academy, I can't imagine being so young and frightened of the streets, one girl stated that she didn't belong on the streets and that her deputy would get his for sending her to the detail, another female cried in the corner saying she missed her kids, What a crime to give these people guns and police powers, and try to get them to take in an in progress job out in 7th district, they would lock theirselves in the car on scene. Thank god I'm the real police.
How about the female Sgt in Personnel (M.C.) who has a take home car. When it got snowed in she miraculously got a second car to use and left the first one in a snow bank on Osceola. Now that the snow melted she returned the second car and is once again using the first one.
anyone see chuck goudies ch 7 i-team report on patrick kelly--the od cop from 009 who accidentally shot his friend in the head after drinking all nite??? kelly was arrested. im not a chuck goudie fan, but thanx for showing the truth about this jagoff pat kelly.
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Real nice....kick the poor bastard in the head during the worse time in his life. Like many of us weren't assholes who drank too much and did stupid shit when we were young. I almost hope this is a personal grudge cause if you don't feel a little sympathy for this poor bastard you are a poor excuse.
2/18/2010 10:37:00 AM
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I'm sorry but I hope this an attempt at dry humor and not real sympathy for the guy. At some point maybe some of my coworkers will understand that drinking and guns are a bad combination. Leave the pistol locked up when you're having cocktails. And I don't know what kind of shit you did when you were young and drunk but HE SHOT A PERSON IN THE HEAD! That's not the drunken foolishness that my friends and I ever got ourselves into.
'Ed O'Donnell demoted to Captain. He is leaving in a couple months and angry he didn't get promoted. Its to bad because he was a great Commander and real good boss. Another one bites the dust.'
If that's the truth, that's too bad. Ed is a decent guy; won't comment on his choice of a mate, but none of us are perfect! Another good Cmdr bites the dust.
WEISel/Masters, you should be ashamed of what you've done to destroy this Dept. At least Ed got in enough time to get the exempt pension. A lot of those who have bit the dust before him weren't as fortunate. The only good thing out of this is, When WEISel leaves early next year, his wife will be joining Ed in prompt retirement! The next Supt., whoever it is, will hopefully have enough sense to get rid of all of the executive command of this Dept.
They've let us all down with their cowardice in standing up to the WEISel, Masters and Shortshanks.
I hope all those dogs stay at HQ. They are no help to us on the street. "Back to the Streets" is a complete joke. These people dont even know how to work a radio. They just drive around and dodge jobs all day long. They do more harm than good on the street. Stay inside, dummies.
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Take it easy warrior. When my partner and I were in a certain district, we were scolded by po's because we were coding the jobs out before they got there because they wanted to dog the jobs out. We really dodged that foot chase involving a PSMV and after catching the driver of the car, we had the audacity to give the arrest to the beat guys. What dogs we were. I laugh to myself when I arrive on jobs with tough guys like yourself when I work back to the street because you dont even acknowledge our existence even when we are there to help you out. Next time, if you're a man enough, you can tell me what a douche bag I am to my face, but dont worry I'd laugh that off too because you are just an insecure, angry person that I actually feel sorry for.
Sadly enough, I'd still haul ass over to your 10-1 to help you out.
2/18/2010 03:12:00 PM
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Are we supposed to applaud you because you would go lights and siren to a 10-1, or because you work the streets 4 weeks a year? What a typical "inside do-nothing" comment! It is called DOING YOUR JOB! If you cant handle it, do us all a favor and retire or quit. And you had the "audacity" of giving a beat car your PSMV arrest? Are you kidding me? Are you sure you werent just scared shitless that you were gonna have to do some work for a while and maybe even stay a little late? Do you even know how to process an arrest? You should come to realize that your inside job could be done by an uneducated civilian with absolutely no police experience and don't give us the excuse that you earned it because most of the do-nothings I've come into contact with have been do-nothings their entire career. And maybe the coppers on the street refuse to "acknowledge your existence" because your kind does us on the street more harm than good. You do-nothings are one of the main causes of the bad morale. You get in the ears of these fresh PPO's and convince them that this department is garbage and that being a working copper will only get you fired or in jail - another typical do-nothing comment. You people try to bonify your lazyness by using the stories of the few coppers who were wronged by the Dept (i.e. Cozzie).
I know plenty of guys with 20 plus years on the job who are still out there being the police. And they aren't doing it to bring revenue for the city like you salty do-nothings claim. They are doing it because they like making arrests, they need the court money for their families, and because they realize that bad people need to go to jail.
Now go back to your paper pushing and pencil sharpening.
"Ed O'Donnell demoted to Captain. He is leaving in a couple months and angry he didn't get promoted. Its to bad because he was a great Commander and real good boss. Another one bites the dust."
Hey ass hat, did you ever think he may have resigned his command to retire as a Captain and get health insurance? Exempts DO NOT get it right now.
I hope all those dogs stay at HQ. They are no help to us on the street. "Back to the Streets" is a complete joke. These people dont even know how to work a radio. They just drive around and dodge jobs all day long. They do more harm than good on the street. Stay inside, dummies. ...
2/18/2010 02:22:00 AM
"BINGO"! You hit the nail right on the head. All they do is drive around, drink coffee, fuck up my lunch spot and DO NOTHING.
Hey, boss, want activity? Get something out of the house mouse, we're sick of doing all the dirty work.
You do "more" on this dept, and thats all they want from you is more, and more and more. Do nothing, and no one expects much from you!
The only change everyone wants to see is puddin ernest t. away for life.
Take it easy warrior. When my partner and I were in a certain district, we were scolded by po's because we were coding the jobs out before they got there because they wanted to dog the jobs out.
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Wow! How about YOU take it easy hair gel. You should be scolded, and rightly so.
I learned my first week on the street that you NEVER code out another beat's job. You can give a slow down and ask them if they want you to code it out. BUT, you just don't code it out!
Who do you and your partner think you are?..Sergeants?
I'm sure you'll be a sergeant someday..and based on your "hard charging attitude" you'll be hated..but you'll be a legend in your own mind!
To 2/18/2010 02:22:00 AM:
So you must be one of Dugan's WARRIORS. Well, good for you. But you are nothing special really. Practically everyone who started this job had the same attitude as you do. But over time, people change.
That usually happens when you start catching bullshit CR's and start taking time. Then throw in a lawsuit or 2 and then you start to question it all. Is this job worth it?
The latest word around 35th St is that we are down an entire AREA worth of manpower. 5 Districts worth of Patrolman, Sgt, Lt… and an Area worth of Detectives. Oh, not gold stars, we damn sure got enough of them! Sad times we are in, sad times…..
I made 2 arrests, wrote no movers and no parkers in all of 2009 yet, I "exceed expectations" on my performance evaluation. I get special as often as I put in for it. How can that be? Because there are jobs in this department that don't require making arrests or writing from a ticket book! Wake up moron! It's called doing my job very well.
I put my time in just like you eventually will. Assholes like me have earned the right to gobble up special. Live with it until it's your turn.
Oh and fawk Mike Masters.
I think thats great....Working officers should be given FIRST choice of Special Employment....and everything else for that matter....The DOGS should get NOTHING....Why should they get time and a half to sit their lazy asses in a car and do nothing but stuff their filthy pie holes and come in with nothing?? BRAVO to the department on making this change....hope it's true!! Next please impliment that standard to tact teams and units....that would weed out plenty of dead wood who are just there to sample the oxygen... ALL Units should be based on activity!! ALL UNITS..... You will get more bang for your buck.... Pray that this happens!!
Ah, to be young and stupid! Listen kid, all the hard work and activity means squat if you don't have clout. I've been doing this for over 20 years and I have seen the attempts at change just like this one. And you know what? Nothing changes!
You can work your ass off and you'll still get dumped. If you don't have a phone call or a relative in a high ranking position you are going to be disappointed real fast. You may think you are super-cop, bringing in the numbers to impress the bosses. But guess what? Look behind you. See that long line? Those are other P.O.'s who think they can do the job better than you.
You may think you are God's gift to the department, but there will always be someone else out there who thinks you are one of those dogs.
So if you think seniority should be done away with and everything based on one's activity, just remember you ain't getting any younger. You will slow up as you get older or (god forbid) as a result of an IOD.
Then as you limp your tired ass to work and wonder how come YOU ain't getting any special because you used to run and gun, and then have to listen to all those YOUNGER coppers snickering at you and wondering why you just don't retire, will you still have the same attitude as you do now?
I SAY:
Get rid of these do nothing pieces of shit dogs and let the guys who have families to support get some days.
So now I'm supposed to support your family? BOO HOO.
Get some time on and then you will get more special. But in the mean time.......STFU!
Real nice....kick the poor bastard in the head during the worse time in his life. Like many of us weren't assholes who drank too much and did stupid shit when we were young. I almost hope this is a personal grudge cause if you don't feel a little sympathy for this poor bastard you are a poor excuse.
Um... dude? Drink much? Feel sympathy for this guy? HE SHOT HIS FRIEND IN THE HEAD! That isn't a whoops he fell down, or oops he beat up his neighbors dog, he shot someone, I feel no sympathy for him
Off topic Courtesy to all CPD from a Revenue PEA:
P-EA's are instructed to enforce 9-76-160(d) COMPLETELY!
That includes the "shall be maintained free of All foreign materials" and any and all plates that are of Different Annual Issues in appearance.
If you have your FOP decal on your Plate...Move it. Please for the love of Mike.
That Includes: "Plate must be not less than 12 inches from the ground from the bottom of the plate."
That Includes: The plate must be horizontal and not swinging.
I know Family members have FOP decals..and I know that Active and "Supporter" are different.
Make a PEA"s life a little easier..and move the decal because we don't want to get screwed due to a Deputy Director of Street Ops in Revenue. CPD verses DOR, we know who wins....Not Us.
but with the new 4/2 schedule, the fact that OT is nonexistent inside and that, at least last year, i went from march to almost november without a full weekend off...not to mention the BS politics here, working in a district doesn't seem like such a bad option anymore.
So why are you still there? Oh, right. You are the only one on this department that can do the job you do.
Didn't get a FULL weekend in over 8 months last year? Cry me a river!
Anonymous said...
Ed O'Donnell demoted to Captain. He is leaving in a couple months and angry he didn't get promoted. Its to bad because he was a great Commander and real good boss. Another one bites the dust.
2/18/2010 03:00:00 PM
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You really think he was demoted? Here are a couple of thngs to think about. Even if you are demoted to Capt for a month or 2you get the avg of the last 4 years for your pension. Now, what benefit is available to non-exempts (exempts do not have this benefit)who are 55 and older who are about to retire?
We at 35th have ears even though we may look like we are not paying attention.
I really feel for the guys/gals who want to go out there and do real police work.
They just do not understand what the department does to workers once the beefs start to roll in.
When you make arrests. .especially good ones, you are making a major impact on the lives of your arrestees! That means they come up with stories that are so well put together that they seem like well written novels.
There used to be times when these allegations were investigated and found to be the BS that they really were. Now a days the cop is guilty until proven innocent. That is very sad.
And God forbid if some boss doesnt liek you and gives a persuasive push to the investigation.
I know-it happened to several of us !
To go in the press and say that you want people and bosses to take chances and be aggressive and do police work sounds very good. But how about backing us when we do that work!
Be safe real coppers....
Ed O'D voluntarily resigned his exempt spot to return to captain so he could take advantage of the 55 insurance plan. It's unbelievable that this asshole mayor treats his managers so shitty that they have to consider doing this in order to get some benefit. God bless Ed O'D.
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Ed O'D voluntarily resigned his exempt spot to return to captain so he could take advantage of the 55 insurance plan. It's unbelievable that this asshole mayor treats his managers so shitty that they have to consider doing this in order to get some benefit. God bless Ed O'D.
2/18/2010 10:41:00 PM
So, he gets a Gold Braid Pension and a benefit that is only for non-exempts? And this is the Mayors Fault? I am no fan of the Mayor but Ed took the spot with his eyes wide open. If there was no 55 and out there is no way he would go back to Captain. He was not treated shitty. He played the system and between his pension and his free health care he is way ahead of 99 percent of us on CPD. And we will have to pay for him with our pension and health contributions. Ed was out for Ed, don't kid yourself. Just like his old lady. 2 peas in a pod. Or should I say Mopod. LOL!!!
From taser training-----
Word is the department is now rushing po's through training in anticipation of the manpower shortage rapidly increasing. The taser will be your new partner when all district cars will be 10-99.
He was not treated shitty. He played the system and between his pension and his free health care he is way ahead of 99 percent of us on CPD. And we will have to pay for him with our pension and health contributions. Ed was out for Ed, don't kid yourself. Just like his old lady. 2 peas in a pod. Or should I say Mopod. LOL!!!
Sorry slicksleeves but Ed was paying into the pension fund when you were still popping zits off your mommies bathroom mirror, as he got promoted he paid in more, so you aren't paying anything; he made a smart move, he sees where this department is headed and has the time to leave, he is smart to do what he did...
Is it true Ed O'Donnell was demoted to Capt? And that he's leaving? I saw a post on here about it--if it's true, it's a real shame. Good guy, stand-up boss.
News Flash - Safe City is a federally funded Overtime option. This means that the it does not have to offered as "special employment". The Department can assign this overtime in any fashion they see fit. Prior to this year "Operation Safe City" was actually "Operation Safe Summer" and was assigned as voluntary overtime limited to the previous Bureau of Strategic Deployment. It was difficult to fill all the positions on a weekly basis with a limited number of bodies assigned to BSD. When BSD was dissolved last year the units were absorbed into the Bureau of Patrol. Since it broadened the base of personnel it was opened up to all of patrol. This had the adverse affect of diminished activity. Now the department has decided to re-evaluate the situation to insure the federal money remains. Bottom line, the department will do what it wants with this program, my best guess is that it will be removed from the realm of "special employment" and returned to the "volutary overtime" status. Kiss that fat check byebye.
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The Superintendent has a oppurtunity to restore a bit of his credibility here. We alla wait with baited breath to see if the true "special" people will ever see the streets. We all wonder if the HQ darlings related by marriage [not necessarily with the same last name for obvious reasons] will ever see the street. Oh foolish me!!! All I can do is hope.
2/18/2010 05:25:00 AM
I've got your answer...no they won't. The only ones who will be working from HQ are the same no clout po's. The golden boys and girls never ever pull their weight.
Ed O D was a good guy at one time. He got sucked into the political system. After all how do you think he made it up the food chain.
People that knew him years ago knew him to be a good man. As time went on he did what he needed to do to move up. North side clout Mauer and crew.
He has thrown his share of people under the bus for the sake of clout. The old boy network.
This is what is wrong with the merit system. It ruins good men and women. Stay true during your career.
Hope he has a great retirement but not that great a loss.
Makes me really think about doing any real police work. Those are the stories we need to hear about.
When is Weis having another open forum so we can ask him about this shit?
anyone see chuck goudies ch 7 i-team report on patrick kelly--the od cop from 009 who accidentally shot his friend in the head after drinking all nite??? kelly was arrested. im not a chuck goudie fan, but thanx for showing the truth about this jagoff pat kelly.
Hey asswipe, I personally don't know the officer....whether you like the guy or not...don't post his name on the sight, were not the only ones who read this. Your probably the same type of officer who dimes out his partner. Goof !
Not that I work special alot, but why shouldn't it be based on activity?
I would agree with this change.
If you're not doing shit at your regular position, why should you be rewarded with extra 'work'?
Because you are opening up a can of worms for other work related issues, moron. It's amazing some of us can walk and chew gum at the same time.
From taser training-----
Word is the department is now rushing po's through training in anticipation of the manpower shortage rapidly increasing. The taser will be your new partner when all district cars will be 10-99.
2/18/2010 11:34:00 PM
think the plot of the movie "Crank".
Didn't get a FULL weekend in over 8 months last year? Cry me a river!
you sir are a fucking jaggoff. Period! you house-mouse motherfucker. Glad you like the 4 and 2 cause its blows.
Real nice....kick the poor bastard in the head during the worse time in his life. Like many of us weren't assholes who drank too much and did stupid shit when we were young. I almost hope this is a personal grudge cause if you don't feel a little sympathy for this poor bastard you are a poor excuse.
2/18/2010 10:37:00 AM
kicking him the head during the worse (sic) time in his life????? Hey, he might be hitting a rough patch BUT ITS NOTHING compared to his buddy in the hospital with the F%$king BULLET IN HIS HEAD! Drunken A-Hole who should have learned a long time ago that he needed to either change his BS attitude or quit drinking altogether....or both. And yes, I have done stupid stuff but not like this dipshit. None of my friends ever ended up shot in the back of the head with my gun. I have owned and used guns for 38 years and no "accidental" head shots in my house. I don't play with my guns when I'm drunk and I don't let my buddies play with my guns either. It's simple common sense firearm safety. If you're going to own a gun show some f#@&cking responsibility and don't be just another asswipe the anti-gunners cans use to attack the 2nd amendment. Just think of your family/friends not ending up shot in the head as an added bonus.
SPECIAL EMPLOYMENT IS BASED ON ONES SENORITY NOT ON PRODUCTIVITY. IF THE BOSSES DON’T KNOW THAT BY NOW, WE ARE IN WORSE SHAPE THAN ANY OF US HAS THAUGHT. THE UNION BETTER NIP THIS IN THE ASS RIGHT AWAY. OH YEA THAT’S RIGHT OUR UNION BENDS TO EVERY WISH THE CITY WANTS . WHAT A JOKE
2/18/2010 08:07:00 AM
Not with safe city it isnt. You know that little list on the side that only "gang specialists" can work.......u know the guys with 3, 5 years on gettin 3 to 4 days of it a month while guys with 12 plus years cant even get ONE day. Yeah, thats really done by senority. Maybe the FOP should get its head outta its ass and look at the greivences being filed by guys reguarding this. Its absolutely unreal that this is still going on.
I know plenty of guys with 20 plus years on the job who are still out there being the police. And they aren't doing it to bring revenue for the city like you salty do-nothings claim. They are doing it because they like making arrests, they need the court money for their families, and because they realize that bad people need to go to jail.
Now go back to your paper pushing and pencil sharpening.
2/18/2010 08:26:00 PM
Amazingly well said! I know plenty of old timers out here still doing working.
what a surprise you work in 007 too....
when was that last contract signed????? everyone should be a DOG!
2/18/2010 07:29:00 PM
And where do you work? Why don't you give up your spot so I can take it over?
I didn't think so...
Until then, go back to your hole and shut the fuck up jerk off.
Who needs tazers? This is Chicago just kick em and have them land on the 3rd rail. That is how you get special employment.
Real nice....kick the poor bastard in the head during the worse time in his life. Like many of us weren't assholes who drank too much and did stupid shit when we were young. I almost hope this is a personal grudge cause if you don't feel a little sympathy for this poor bastard you are a poor excuse.
Um... dude? Drink much? Feel sympathy for this guy? HE SHOT HIS FRIEND IN THE HEAD! That isn't a whoops he fell down, or oops he beat up his neighbors dog, he shot someone, I feel no sympathy for him
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I can always tell when someone is a young asshole when they call me dude. Listen up young cowpoke for what could be a life-saving tip....hardassed experienced street coppers don't like to be called dude by anyone.....AT ALL. So perhaps you can learn to call me by my first name, last name or even asshole but save the dudes for the other young fools who think they are tough cops.
Anonymous said...
some of the toughest coppers on this job haven't written a mover or parker their entire career.... you either have it or you don't--- writing tickets doesn't make you a better copper so the benchmark for working special employment is and should be seniority....
2/18/2010 06:11:00 PM
Seniority is absolute. The city better expect a huge fight if they select special employment by any criteria other than seniority. Any change would need to be negotiated with the FOP and FOP will never give up seniority on Special Employment. That will be another flurry of grievances, ULP, and an eventual arbitration decision.
You will get more bang for your buck.... Pray that this happens!!
LMAO FN STROKE! bang for your buck..LOSER!! LIFM
Then as you limp your tired ass to work and wonder how come YOU ain't getting any special because you used to run and gun, and then have to listen to all those YOUNGER coppers snickering at you and wondering why you just don't retire, will you still have the same attitude as you do now?
2/18/2010 09:35:00 PM
But I'm gonna be young and fit forever! There's no room for anyone but me and people like me! I don't care what your "experience" has taught you. You need to be a hard charger like me. Soon I'll have a backwards baseball cap on and a duty belt over my jeans. Then you'll see who the real man is!
Ed O D was a good guy at one time. He got sucked into the political system. After all how do you think he made it up the food chain.
People that knew him years ago knew him to be a good man. As time went on he did what he needed to do to move up. North side clout Mauer and crew.
He has thrown his share of people under the bus for the sake of clout. The old boy network.
This is what is wrong with the merit system. It ruins good men and women. Stay true during your career.
Hope he has a great retirement but not that great a loss.
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See its people like you on this job that think it's no big deal to lose someone like Ed until a new guy takes his place and you read about it all over this blog. Nice attempt at the end to save yourself about enjoy your retirement. You’re a fool! So he knew people on this job to get promoted! ahhh I think that's the only way you get promoted!(above Lt) It’s obvious you never worked for him, he is a good guy (good guy cause no matter what you say he has the knowledge). I know it's hard to look at the BIG picture cause your to busy looking at yourself, but when you lose someone with 30 plus yrs your losing the knowledge to handle things correctly. You get a new boss with 15-20yrs that is so busy kissing ass that he thinks giving you a day for a court deviation is a must! (This is only an example) Big picture remember!
At least Seniority is something tangible. We all have a seniority date and will get time on the job. Its the only fair way for those without clout. If you have a better system by all means post it.
Seniority was a great concept untill a bunch of dogs got 18 yrs and took all the furloughs , watchs and special they could grab and do nothing...." I dont do shit " wow thats something to be proud of... tell your kids ...hey be a welfare daddy like me and see ; life is good kid.... no wonder these kids are growing up to be a bunch of loosers
To the Nitwits stating P.K. shot his friend. He did NOT shoot his friend. You obviously dont know or never bothered to ask. Pull your heads out of your asses.
Since when has Chuck Goudies word become gospel. Remeber the reporting he did on Girl X?
Ed O D was a good guy at one time. He got sucked into the political system. After all how do you think he made it up the food chain.
People that knew him years ago knew him to be a good man. As time went on he did what he needed to do to move up. North side clout Mauer and crew.
He has thrown his share of people under the bus for the sake of clout. The old boy network.
This is what is wrong with the merit system. It ruins good men and women. Stay true during your career.
Hope he has a great retirement but not that great a loss.
2/19/2010 12:21:00 AM
You hit the nail on the head, except for stating that his leaving will not be that great a loss. It will be no loss, at all!
Bye-bye Ed. You went from a nice guy to a meritcloutorious jag. You will not be missed. And enjoy that ill-gotten, sold-your-soul, free healthcare, gold-braid, pension. You swallowed a bunch to get it.
some of the toughest coppers on this job haven't written a mover or parker their entire career.... you either have it or you don't--- writing tickets doesn't make you a better copper so the benchmark for working special employment is and should be seniority....
Well said!
Most of those crying for the change now will be crying years from now when they have put some time in and suddenly realize that all the newbies are getting the special spots and not them.
Didn't get a FULL weekend in over 8 months last year? Cry me a river!
you sir are a fucking jaggoff. Period! you house-mouse motherfucker. Glad you like the 4 and 2 cause its blows.
First off, that's Mr. Fucking Jagoff to you sonny boy. Second, I'm no house mouse. I've been on a beat car for over 20 years.
As for the 4/2 schedule.......I love it! Thanks for asking!
Then as you limp your tired ass to work and wonder how come YOU ain't getting any special because you used to run and gun, and then have to listen to all those YOUNGER coppers snickering at you and wondering why you just don't retire, will you still have the same attitude as you do now?
2/18/2010 09:35:00 PM
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On the mark !
All you officers with less than 5 years on please listen up and smell the bull that the bosses are sticking in your face. The white shirts have always patted the young and dum on the back to get their numbers and left the old and lame alone why?
Its easier to get all you newbies to rush into stuff that those who've done that, been there, will ask what the fuck do we get out of it!
Never forget we work for a bunch of political hacks, who if not for this job would be nothing in life ie; any exempt and all those merit pricks who couldn't squeeze the pimple on a westside whore's asscrack because they can't tell the difference between real crime and make belive event number bullshit!
Anonymous said...
Seniority is absolute. The city better expect a huge fight if they select special employment by any criteria other than seniority. Any change would need to be negotiated with the FOP and FOP will never give up seniority on Special Employment. That will be another flurry of grievances, ULP, and an eventual arbitration decision.
2/19/2010 05:40:00 AM
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You mean like the huge fight that happened when they started restricting Special Employment by Title Code?
Anonymous said...
anyone see chuck goudies ch 7 i-team report on patrick kelly--the od cop from 009 who accidentally shot his friend in the head after drinking all nite??? kelly was arrested. im not a chuck goudie fan, but thanx for showing the truth about this jagoff pat kelly.
Hey asswipe, I personally don't know the officer....whether you like the guy or not...don't post his name on the sight, were not the only ones who read this. Your probably the same type of officer who dimes out his partner. Goof !
2/19/2010 01:06:00 AM
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Did you read the post. His name was on TELEVISION. I think the poster is not the only person who watches the NEWS.
Real nice....kick the poor bastard in the head during the worse time in his life. Like many of us weren't assholes who drank too much and did stupid shit when we were young. I almost hope this is a personal grudge cause if you don't feel a little sympathy for this poor bastard you are a poor excuse.
Um... dude? Drink much? Feel sympathy for this guy? HE SHOT HIS FRIEND IN THE HEAD! That isn't a whoops he fell down, or oops he beat up his neighbors dog, he shot someone, I feel no sympathy for him
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I can always tell when someone is a young asshole when they call me dude. Listen up young cowpoke for what could be a life-saving tip....hardassed experienced street coppers don't like to be called dude by anyone.....AT ALL. So perhaps you can learn to call me by my first name, last name or even asshole but save the dudes for the other young fools who think they are tough cops.
Take a chill pill dude.LOL
listen rookie it's all about seniority for special employment
get some whiskers and maybe you can work special
now go tell mommy and daddy old timers don't like you
ask mommy to call fop
anyone see chuck goudies ch 7 i-team report on patrick kelly--the od cop from 009 who accidentally shot his friend in the head after drinking all nite??? kelly was arrested. im not a chuck goudie fan, but thanx for showing the truth about this jagoff pat kelly.
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Real nice....kick the poor bastard in the head during the worse time in his life. Like many of us weren't assholes who drank too much and did stupid shit when we were young. I almost hope this is a personal grudge cause if you don't feel a little sympathy for this poor bastard you are a poor excuse.
2/18/2010 10:37:00 AM
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I'm sorry but I hope this an attempt at dry humor and not real sympathy for the guy. At some point maybe some of my coworkers will understand that drinking and guns are a bad combination. Leave the pistol locked up when you're having cocktails. And I don't know what kind of shit you did when you were young and drunk but HE SHOT A PERSON IN THE HEAD! That's not the drunken foolishness that my friends and I ever got ourselves into.
2/18/2010 07:46:00 PM
First off, Channel 7's Chuck G. is a goof who will sell lies to anyone who will listen because the majority of people don't see the things police officers see and experience and can't tell that Chuck is just full of shit. A master at one sided journalism.
Secondly, I don't know PK that well. Crossed paths just once, not impressed. He really is his own worst enemy. Get help with the firewater.
Thirdly and most importantly, you previous posters have fed into the rumors that he shot this guy. NOT TRUE. Until this guy wakes up and tell his side of the story (truthfully, I hope.), PK is innocent. All evidence so far is telling us that this guy has some mental issues as well as some relationship problem. Remember, you're the police and you're supposed to relay on the existing facts. God Bless.
I SAY:
Get rid of these do nothing pieces of shit dogs and let the guys who have families to support get some days.
So now I'm supposed to support your family? BOO HOO.
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Get some time on and then you will get more special. But in the mean time.......STFU!
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I have 27 years son...
AND if you come down to Safe City and don't give me shit.. the next time you come down you will be assigned to a 6 hour seat belt safety check per LT. J.S.
NOW.. after looking a way to get out of that in your FOP contract you can stick it up your ASS.
"...as little as maybe some parkers and some contact cards.
Hell all you have to do is park for a while and and make some shit up!!!"
Nice job, loser. God forbid you do any police work or stop any real people for that contact card.
And then you have the nerve to bash the female officers who said they couldn't find anything? You are worse, you didn't even try.
Contact cards let detectives know who was in the area right before pookie shot mookie.
And take a look in the mirror at your beer gut before you talk about people being overweight.
Asshole.
TAKE AWAY HAMILTON"s TAKE HOME CAR FOR STARTERS!!! WHY DOES HE NEED THAT? How much does that Cost?
I think hamilton is a self absorbed jerk but man coppers get jealous... ......... youll just get bitter and stressed out
Karen thanks for posting the above in defense of Ray.
but when you lose someone with 30 plus yrs your losing the knowledge to handle things correctly.
I'll wait until he retires to tell the true story on his knowledge and how he handles things correctly. Some people get these positions they have no business being in.
Anonymous said...
anyone see chuck goudies ch 7 i-team report on patrick kelly--the od cop from 009 who accidentally shot his friend in the head after drinking all nite??? kelly was arrested. im not a chuck goudie fan, but thanx for showing the truth about this jagoff pat kelly.
Hey asswipe, I personally don't know the officer....whether you like the guy or not...don't post his name on the sight, were not the only ones who read this. Your probably the same type of officer who dimes out his partner. Goof !
2/19/2010 01:06:00 AM
hey douche....the news and the papers mentioned PATRICK KELLY"S name. PATRICK KELLY shoild be fired.
Pax2011 said...
To the Nitwits stating P.K. shot his friend. He did NOT shoot his friend. You obviously dont know or never bothered to ask. Pull your heads out of your asses.
2/19/2010 08:17:00 AM
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were you there, douche-bag?? i didnt think so. so his friend shot himself toward the back of the head?????
AMEN 0312 hrs
I have 27 years son...
AND if you come down to Safe City and don't give me shit.. the next time you come down you will be assigned to a 6 hour seat belt safety check per LT. J.S.
NOW.. after looking a way to get out of that in your FOP contract you can stick it up your ASS.
2/19/2010 05:20:00 PM
if he can put a seatbelt on your on jag!
Now will they kick BGoldstick out of HQ? C'mon he was sent to HQ after probation to an "assigned" spot in the First Deputy's office! Not detailed, but assigned. So he spent his time there, goes to Unit 125, and is not in the Supt's Office. Please note he is still "assigned" and not detailed. Goldstick is the next Mike Masters.
Someone find out why they paid his travel to go to a conference with a Cmdr and Masters!
"were you there, douche-bag?? i didnt think so. so his friend shot himself toward the back of the head?????
2/19/2010 06:38:00 PM"
So, since YOU were there, let us know what really happened Sherlock. Look in your FOP book as to where pax 2011 calls to assmunch.
It's no rumor. One of IAD agents has turned on IAD prior to her retirement. She had an audience with the Supt and McMasters' telling them about the ills. As a result, sgts must leave to-froms justifying their reasons for being there. This is only the beginning.
Anonymous said...
Now will they kick BGoldstick out of HQ? C'mon he was sent to HQ after probation to an "assigned" spot in the First Deputy's office! Not detailed, but assigned. So he spent his time there, goes to Unit 125, and is not in the Supt's Office. Please note he is still "assigned" and not detailed. Goldstick is the next Mike Masters.
Someone find out why they paid his travel to go to a conference with a Cmdr and Masters!
2/19/2010 11:09:00 PM
Who cares. He sounds like a boob. If they are coddling him, then the day will come when his protection is no longer there. It sounds like he has too many years to go. Don't let these miscreants upset you and they sound like miscreants. One day he will be required to be a policeman. He'll get back any shit he's dumped on anyone. Time is your friend.
Anonymous said...
Didn't get a FULL weekend in over 8 months last year? Cry me a river!
you sir are a fucking jaggoff. Period! you house-mouse motherfucker. Glad you like the 4 and 2 cause its blows.
First off, that's Mr. Fucking Jagoff to you sonny boy. Second, I'm no house mouse. I've been on a beat car for over 20 years.
As for the 4/2 schedule.......I love it! Thanks for asking!
2/19/2010 11:58:00 AM
Nope, you're just a plain ol jaggoff and I bet you are real proud of yourself and all of your accomplishments you fucking joke. And you can take your 4-2's and shove it up your ass sideways. Go back into the hole you crawled out of would ya. 20 years my ass. Who taught you how to use a computer then gramps?
"As far as Detectives.... if they can't make O.T. (through court or ext of tour)on their regular job, then they aren't very good at being a detective."
The same could be said for you, rookie.
Just saying......
Off topic..........There's going to be a new television series on FOX. No title yet but it stars a Chicago Police Department Chief who is a civilian and plays police on a part time basis. If Steven Segal can do it for New Orleans why can't Masters do it for Chicago. Besides carrying a pistol he just went to Shore Galleries and picked up an M4. Even though there is a city ordinance and a Cook County law prohibiting civilians from owning an assault rifle. Masters may be taking O'Keefe's place and then on to the Superintendents job.
Is that jagoff O'Keefe gone? Oh happy day!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Now will they kick BGoldstick out of HQ? C'mon he was sent to HQ after probation to an "assigned" spot in the First Deputy's office! Not detailed, but assigned. So he spent his time there, goes to Unit 125, and is not in the Supt's Office. Please note he is still "assigned" and not detailed. Goldstick is the next Mike Masters.
Someone find out why they paid his travel to go to a conference with a Cmdr and Masters!
2/19/2010 11:09:00 PM
You can thank Sgt. (Cmdr)? Roman for that debacle.
SCC, can you PLEASE verify if Masters purchased weapons at Shore Galleries and if he is allowed to carry a gun against the city ordinance and a Cook County law prohibiting civilians from owning an assault rifle.
I SAY:
Get rid of these do nothing pieces of shit dogs and let the guys who have families to support get some days.
So now I'm supposed to support your family? BOO HOO.
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Get some time on and then you will get more special. But in the mean time.......STFU!
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I have 27 years son...
AND if you come down to Safe City and don't give me shit.. the next time you come down you will be assigned to a 6 hour seat belt safety check per LT. J.S.
NOW.. after looking a way to get out of that in your FOP contract you can stick it up your ASS.
2/19/2010 05:20:00 PM
Hey LT. J.S. I'll take that seat belt mission all day.
Damn, every drivre and passenger had their seatbelts on.
Better luck next time.
To all you whiners out there with not enough seniority to get Special Employment, your turn will come. I used to get jealous of all the old-timers too and wished they would leave so I could move up the ladder. Now the shoe is on the other foot, and all of a sudden I have 24 years on and I am the old-timer! Us "old-timers" have EARNED their seniority putting up with so much bullshit and busted our asses on this job it isn't even funny. What you are going through right now we went through a lot longer than you. So when YOU have put in the time that others have and put up with the bullshit for what is almost a LIFETIME (20 + years), then you will understand and appreciate what seniority is. Until then you need to STFU and wait your turn...
"As far as Detectives.... if they can't make O.T. (through court or ext of tour)on their regular job, then they aren't very good at being a detective."
The same could be said for you, rookie.
Just saying......
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Yeah like we have all the opportunities everyday to work O.T.. Oh yeah you don't have the opportunities either because the most famous line from the dicks is "You got nothing". Which should really be "I'm too lazy to try".
Sorry I hit a nerve, salty old veteran detective. I'm sure on the low end you could get at the least 50 hours a period, but you would have to try.
Oh Im hoping that someone hears the Iad Retiree and makes major changes. Too bad she came forward so late about the bs that goes on over there.
A very well known law firm has just been retained by a po who just came back to work and is now being messed with again.
Stop those witch-hunts that have been coming out of IAD.
Anonymous said...
Didn't get a FULL weekend in over 8 months last year? Cry me a river!
you sir are a fucking jaggoff. Period! you house-mouse motherfucker. Glad you like the 4 and 2 cause its blows.
First off, that's Mr. Fucking Jagoff to you sonny boy. Second, I'm no house mouse. I've been on a beat car for over 20 years.
As for the 4/2 schedule.......I love it! Thanks for asking!
2/19/2010 11:58:00 AM
Nope, you're just a plain ol jaggoff and I bet you are real proud of yourself and all of your accomplishments you fucking joke. And you can take your 4-2's and shove it up your ass sideways. Go back into the hole you crawled out of would ya. 20 years my ass. Who taught you how to use a computer then gramps?
2/20/2010 01:16:00 AM
MMmmmm.......mighty sensitive my friend. But maybe to clear things up, my original post was in response to an admitted house mouse who had not gotten a full weekend in 8 months last year.
Since I have never been fortunate enough to work downtown or inside at any district I have had the pleasure to work at, I found the attempt by the previous poster to garner sympathy for not having a full weekend for 8 months mildly amusing, hence my response.
But I'm sure if you would have taken time to get off that bar stool and sober up before you logged on to this fine example of a blog ( SCC, I mean that sincerely), you would have seen all that.
Oh, as far as taking my 4/2's and shoving it up my ass sideways, thanks for the reminder. Your reference to my nether regions reminded me that I am due for my annual prostate exam. Thanks buddy!
And, yes, I do have over 20 years.
As for who taught me how to use a computer, well I will admit that I am by no means an expert but it was all pretty much self taught.
In fact, one of the first things I learned about computers is that they have this neat little feature called a SPELL CHECKER. You might want to learn how to use it. If you had, then you would have known that jagoff has only 1 g in it.
Like I said before...Who gives a flying rats ass about any captain on this gig. Ed O'Donnel or anybody else can retire and fade away forever. C-Ya, and good fucking bye. Any captain I ever worked for was an out and out son of a bitch who would sell out a subordinate in a heartbeat to save his own skin. The best shirt in this dept. is blue, for they have all the fun and considerable less stress than whiteshirts who get to back bite and plot against each other and play polititical fuck-fuck and then die a well earned horrible stress filled death.
hipiap1 said...
2/18/2010 09:46:00 PM
Am I the only PO here that is pleased to see someone give us a heads up about this?
I had my FOP medallion on my plate and actually didn't realize that was against 9-76-160(d).
SCC, can you PLEASE verify if Masters purchased weapons at Shore Galleries and if he is allowed to carry a gun against the city ordinance and a Cook County law prohibiting civilians from owning an assault rifle.
Sure! We'll just run over to Gun Registration, violate any number of Rules and laws on company time to track down a rumor!
Or we'll demand to go into a private business and examine their books based on the vague suspicion clause of the Constitution.
Have you really thought this through? We mean really really?
To all you whiners out there with not enough seniority to get Special Employment, your turn will come. I used to get jealous of all the old-timers too and wished they would leave so I could move up the ladder. Now the shoe is on the other foot, and all of a sudden I have 24 years on and I am the old-timer! Us "old-timers" have EARNED their seniority putting up with so much bullshit and busted our asses on this job it isn't even funny. What you are going through right now we went through a lot longer than you. So when YOU have put in the time that others have and put up with the bullshit for what is almost a LIFETIME (20 + years), then you will understand and appreciate what seniority is. Until then you need to STFU and wait your turn...
2/20/2010 06:08:00 PM
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JEALOUS ???? Are you kidding me? Do you actually think that we wish we were like you lazy, big-mouth, know-it-all, do-nothings? I hope that I never turn into the likes of you people. And most of you guys haven't earned shit. The old timers that have earned it are still out there working, not crying about everything.
fact, one of the first things I learned about computers is that they have this neat little feature called a SPELL CHECKER. You might want to learn how to use it. If you had, then you would have known that jagoff has only 1 g in it.
2/20/2010 08:53:00 PM
That's it huh....one "g" in jagoff, thats all you can respond to??? Something posted on a blog needing to be spell checked? Yep, you are still a JAGGOFF.
About that IAD retiree, she has given more coppers time than anyone up there. She is no friend to the police......If they listen to her then for sure they are nuts!
Seniority was a great concept untill a bunch of dogs got 18 yrs and took all the furloughs , watchs and special they could grab and do nothing...." I dont do shit " wow thats something to be proud of... tell your kids ...hey be a welfare daddy like me and see ; life is good kid.... no wonder these kids are growing up to be a bunch of loosers
2/19/2010 08:03:00 AM
Ever think that say... 18 years in a fucked up gettho like 011, 007, 004, 015, 010, miht just earn you a ticket to doing noting and a summer furlough? Come see us after you put a bar on your sleve, you little weasel-dick.
That's it huh....one "g" in jagoff, thats all you can respond to??? Something posted on a blog needing to be spell checked? Yep, you are still a JAGGOFF.
Well, good correct spelling would be nice. You wouldn't believe the shit that has started in this world over a misunderstanding because someone, somewhere could not express themselves correctly.
If you bothered to pick up a book now and then instead of beer bottle you might be surprised and learn something.
Oh, it also sounds like you are due for your annual eye exam, since you obviously could not see the other topics of conversation that I did reply to.
In your case you would probably hit the medical to do so. But hey! I'm not one to judge.
Good luck in your endeavors. I hope you get what you want out of this job. But I truly doubt it. You sound like the type that would bitch no matter what was handed to you.
hipiap1 said...
2/18/2010 09:46:00 PM
Am I the only PO here that is pleased to see someone give us a heads up about this?
I had my FOP medallion on my plate and actually didn't realize that was against 9-76-160(d).
2/20/2010 10:49:00 PMhipiap1 said...
2/18/2010 09:46:00 PM
Am I the only PO here that is pleased to see someone give us a heads up about this?
I had my FOP medallion on my plate and actually didn't realize that was against 9-76-160(d).
2/20/2010 10:49:00 PM
Are you this dumb?
You really thought it was legal to put a hunk of plastic obstructing your plate.
Am I the only PO here that is pleased to see someone give us a heads up about this?
I had my FOP medallion on my plate and actually didn't realize that was against 9-76-160(d).
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Why is it on yor plate stupid? If you have one it goes somewhere on the rear of your vehicle
Just like H.G.Dumped from Dept Sup to Lt and goes on the medical for 5 months with a bad back till his 60th.
Any medical history or doctors reports?
the IAD whistleblower who is throwing her own retirement party isn't expecting many sworn guest, is she?
To the whining IAD sergeant too fucking bad your secrets out maybe you'll have to do some real police work. And to bad that the agent didn’t have the balls to say something sooner. We all know that the sergeants are the ones that stick it to you by making the penalty suggestions not the agents. And if the agent that is retiring is the one that helped me and my partner out then I’m sorry to see her go, at least you knew you were getting a fair investigation with her not like IPRA.
If you are a "standup boss" you are probably very heavy and connected! This in itself does not make you a "great boss!" These bosses can get "things done" that the normal schmuck could not!
2/20/2010 10:49:00 PM
Are you this dumb?
You really thought it was legal to put a hunk of plastic obstructing your plate.
2/21/2010 07:14:00 AM
I know why that young buck thought it was ok...
I see it all the time on private cars owned by PO's...and Sgt's...and Lt's...and Capt's...and Exempts.
Thus the reason I gave you the free heads up.
someone give us a heads up about this?
I had my FOP medallion on my plate and actually didn't realize that was against 9-76-160(d).
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Why is it on yor plate stupid? If you have one it goes somewhere on the rear of your vehicle
WHY would anyone want to have an FOP medallion showing ANYWHERE on their personal vehicle today? They offer NO HELP when it comes to parking tickets. Civilians will ignore them, and I've seen pleny of coppers write them on cars that have them openly displayed. Why let your neighbors or bad guys know anything about what your profession is than they need to know? It's never made sense to me to ever put one on my car. What the public and your neighbors don't know about you can only make you safer. Think about it.
Good luck in your endeavors. I hope you get what you want out of this job. But I truly doubt it. You sound like the type that would bitch no matter what was handed to you.
2/21/2010 06:05:00 AM
Blah, blah, blah....just remember that you will still be a jagoff, on the job and when you retire.
Good luck in your endeavors. I hope you get what you want out of this job. But I truly doubt it. You sound like the type that would bitch no matter what was handed to you.
2/21/2010 06:05:00 AM
Blah, blah, blah....just remember that you will still be a jagoff, on the job and when you retire.
2/22/2010 01:23:00 AM
I feel sorry for you. So much negativity is bad for the heart.
I feel sorry for you. So much negativity is bad for the heart.
2/22/2010 05:06:00 PM
In better health then you are. Too much stupidity is bad for the brain and eyes and I dont feel sorry for you.
I feel sorry for you. So much negativity is bad for the heart.
2/22/2010 05:06:00 PM
In better health then you are. Too much stupidity is bad for the brain and eyes and I dont feel sorry for you.
Jesus! Get a grip will you. So your the tougher guy. BFD. Christ, you sound more like one of those inside bitches. Just drop it.
eliminate the 2 hour overlap
change starting times of captains
1200 hrs on 3rd watch and 2100hrs on 1st watch
lieutenants can cover 2nd watch 0600 - 1200hrs
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