Monday, April 26, 2010

Again With the Guard

Why not just hire more police instead of trying to do things on the cheap?
  • Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis today spoke out against a request for the Illinois National Guard to be to deployed on Chicago’s streets to help tackle gun violence.

    Stopping just short of outright rejecting the request from state lawmakers Rep. John Fritchey and Rep. LaShawn Ford, Weis said “I don't think the National Guard is the solution.”

  • Noting that the military does not operate under the same constitutional constraints as the police, he questioned how Chicago residents would react to soldiers raiding homes without warrants, and said that in his 25 years of law enforcement experience, he had never seen an example of military personnel working under local civilian command.

    “The National Guard is very useful if we had a big earthquake or huge flood or a catastrophe like that, where we simply had to control folks,” he said, “But the problems we’re facing are illegal weapons, narcotics and gangs. And while I will always look out for as much help as we can, I don't think the National Guard is the solution.”

Of course, the puppet-master must be acknowledged:
  • While Weis came out against the suggestion Sunday, he did add that he had yet to discuss it with the mayor and that is something he was willing to “explore.”

    “I’d have to see what the mayor’s position on this is,” he said. “If he’s open to it, you know, of course, I’d be open to it. I have certain concerns, based on my time in law enforcement and the United States military.”

So J-Fled admits he's pretty much a tool of Shortshanks. Nice to see some truths are still out there.

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63 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul Huebl over at crimefile news has the Final Solution to Chicago's thug problem!

He's right!

4/26/2010 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was on the job and with the National Guard when they were called out in 1968, 1969, and
1970. This is not the answer.

4/26/2010 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have shortcut for Weis. Go to the archives of the SunTimes and the Trib. Search Blago, National Guard, Chicago. I'm sure you'll find the headline and the page one, two and three stories that ensued when Blagoyevich said he would send the Guard to help Chicago with the out of control crime here.

A hint. 17 July 2008 and Daley blew his stack.

Weis started working here in February of 2008. Maybe it's a short-term-memory-loss kind of thing, but shouldn't he already know what the mayor thinks of this idea?

4/26/2010 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is too fucking funny.

These goofy politicians, what will they think of next? They are not grounded in reality.

Here is the up shot: Hire more police and then support them in doing their job.

It was over two years ago that in a conversation I had with an acquaintance, who is in a media outlet, that the problem of violence will be getting worse because he and the media outlets portray the police negatively. Of course, he came up with the bullshit that he is just reporting stories and did not directly address the issue that constant negativity will have an adverse impact on the police and how they do their jobs. The increase came and now the non-supportive politicians and citizens will see the problem grow worse due to the huge lack of cops on the streets, who are still affected by the negative press.

What the fuck is wrong with people?

Here is the answer to Chicago's upswing in violence:

1. Hire more police.
2. Support your police.

Will 1 and 2 happen? HELL, NO. There is no desire or will or votes to make it happen.

However, have this violence spill into other parts of the city (and it will) then you will see many screaming for more cops. By then it might be too late.

This vicious cycle is one enabled by the media and the politicians as well as the non-supportive citizens.

HEY FOLKS! YOU GOT THE TYPE OF POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT FOR YEARS YOU WANTED. Don't like that, then see items one and two above and ante up for it.

4/26/2010 12:45:00 AM  
Blogger TWENTY and OUT said...

SCC, in the radio show mentioned in one of the above posts Weis was asked about calling in the National Guard. In his answer he stated "No, you cannot bring in the military. It would take away peoples rights that they are accustomed to." HEY J-FED, YOU JACKASS, MAYBE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THESE AREAS TO TEACH THE SAVAGES A LESSON AND GET CONTROL OF THESE ANIMALS. Obviously-1. The laws don't mean anything to them. 2. The midget isn't going to hire the bodies we need because the "City is broke". 3. All of the ideas you and your bullshit "never have worked the streets and really been the police policy group" are not making an iota of a difference. So roll the dice and have them come into the city for 90 days. Lock these gang ridden areas down by force..... ENFORCE A CURFEW ON EVERYONE SO A GANGBANGER FATHER CANT BE STANDING ON A CORNER HOLDING AN 18 MONTH OLD BABY AT 1A.M. THAT IS GOING TO BE SHOT AND KILLED IN A DRIVE-BY.
Next J-fed goes on to say that ALL of the homicides in 2009 occurred in 9% of the blocks in the City of Chicago. The new answer to combat this from J-fed, the policy group, and Gold Stars is to put 50 additional people in TRU and 50 in MSF. Lets examine this smoke -n- mirrors idea. there are roughly 28,000 blocks in the Chicago. 10% of that is 280, 9% would be about 252. HOW THE FUCK ARE 100 PEOPLE GOING TO COVER 252 BLOCKS OVER 3 SHIFTS....OR EVEN 2 SHIFTS?
I really don't want to see the National Guard patrolling Chicago but you know what, at this point why not try it for the summer and see what happens because anyone actually WORKING in a district knows 100 people is not the answer.

4/26/2010 01:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who's the idiot who said there are 14,000 officers?

4/26/2010 02:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with JFled on this one, no need for the National gaurd on this one. But, just maybe the powers that be can take the CPD handcuffs off so we can do the job that is needed against these violent misfits of society and handle them accordingly. With out the bs CR numbers and BS law suits that can easily be quashed if it wasn't for the politics of this department or the bs political correctness of this once great city. Handle the criminals with out the kid gloves and you will see this city clean up and clean up fast. That is the only way to stop this bs. Let the police be the police again.

4/26/2010 02:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4/26/2010 02:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who are they gonna patrol but the southside, the southeast side and the west side. And who in the world has the balls to admit that all the crime is happenning within the black community, it will be political suicide. Have you started wondering where the hell is the rev jackson or meeks and why they arent speaking against black on black violence. because it will ruin their credibility of a racial excuse. No racism here, you just have to look at the pins on the map to see where the homocides and crime is happening. Good luck, because they may not be as lenient as the police. stop making excuses and teach your kids some respect, manners and responsibilities. Not knowing their daddy is not an excuse, and neither is being black.

4/26/2010 06:58:00 AM  
Blogger pathickey said...

The streets of Chicago are well patrolled and protected by Chicago Police Officers - they are undermined by the corporate media, Marxist academics, gutless politicians and Lawsuit Lotto Lawyers.

The real stain is attached to those fools and frauds who have created Chicago's Thug Comfort Zone.

4/26/2010 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“I’d have to see what the mayor’s position on this is,” he said. “If he’s open to it, you know, of course, I’d be open to it. I have certain concerns, based on my time in law enforcement and the United States military.”

In other words, I'm not allowed to think or speak for myself even though I make $300,000 a year. And in case I say something that the Mayor disagrees with I'm letting you all know now that whatever he wants me to do I will do and my opinion will all depend on what I am told. So, I really don't know why I'm here talking to you all other than to show off my big forehead and shrunken testicles.


Why don't you just wave a white flag up there while you're at it Mr. Superintendent?

---not a cop

4/26/2010 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"OHIO" by Cosby, Stills, Nash and Young

Tin soldiers and Nixon comin',
We're finally on our own,
This summer I hear the drummin',
Four dead in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it.
Soldiers are gunning us down.
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her and
Found her dead on the ground?
How can you run when you know?

Four dead in Ohio.
Four dead in Ohio.
Four dead in Ohio.
Four dead in Ohio.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Like him or not, J-Fled was right to remind us of the Kent State deaths of 4 students on campus as what CAN happen when a MILITARY force, untrained in LAW ENFORCEMENT, are brought in to be first responders.

IT WON'T WORK!


Besides. This was politics designed to expose the Mayors plan to reduce the size of the CPD... a successful ploy that has all of the media talking about the violence on Chicago's streets and the Mayors' and Superintendents' TOTAL LACK of any recognition on how to stop it WITHOUT the needed addition of thousands of new recruits in the police academy to replace our dwindling numbers and replace the massive # of retirees still to come this year.

4/26/2010 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BRING THOSE KIDS ON IN HERE!!!!

Man how I'd LOVE to have these punks running around here in their fatigues playing "soldier boy"!!

Unfortunately, this will never happen here because Daley's afraid that their presence will cause a major catastrophy and his dying political career will be immediately snuffed out rather than waiting another year for it to end.

4/26/2010 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do we need the National Guard. Why not have the same politicians calling for the national Guard take the stupid restrictions off the Police so we can police. Have 35th stop taking the B.S. complaints against the officers from the gangbangers. Let Mayor Daley let the police do their job. Stop the stupid mission event numbers getting crap. Have the politician tell the backyard reverends to shut up and protest in front of the known gangbanger homes instead of police HQ. Have the politician tell their judge friend to start enforcing the laws the way they are suppose to be and the States Attorney to start prosecuting case. Stop letting these POS out of jail so fast and stop giving probation for everything. I’ll bet the crime will go down if people let the Police start being the police again, without the handcuffs on them so tight

4/26/2010 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even if the National Guard was called in..even if...Weis and politicians have already started the ball rolling on completely deballing the them. Weis brought up Kent State..that was a long time ago. The Guard was patrolling New Orleans after Katrina...they even had patrol cars. The crime and murder rate remained out of control. Unless more police are hired...unless protections are put into place to protect police officers from civil and criminal charges...unless we let police be POLICE...the murders will continue.

4/26/2010 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can see the guard getting orders from up on high, as to not make it look like they are targeting blacks, I can see soldiers harassing law abiding whites doing their own business.

That will be a real treat. National Guard troops on the loose may be the tipping point.

4/26/2010 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why not have all the traffic aides and meter maids take up the slack? They took those jobs from us. It used to be a nice way of breaking up your week, patrol, sox/cubs game, patrol. And throw in a McCormick Place detail for good measure.

Have the meter maids walk around the ghetto and mix it up with the shitheads. Have the traffic aides take over for the crossing guards. Their all in the same bargaining unit.

4/26/2010 08:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I too was in the military and for this very reason I would say no to bringing in the Guard. Soldiers are not cops, yes they would restore order but only after some displays of overwhelming firepower. At first this might seem like a good thing but Martial law is not what I want to live under and I'm looking at the big picture. What is needed is the police to be uncuffed, we know what to do and how to do it. The problem is, we would be prosecuted for doing it these days.

4/26/2010 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guard has no union, no contract and will follow orders. Sounds like perfect sheepdogs. This is the future.

4/26/2010 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why wouldn't they go for it? Instead of using city funding to hire more cops, they could use state funding to bring the IL National Guard over. Daley wouldn't have to spend a penny of his $ and then would be free to give handouts to his cronies!

4/26/2010 09:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't there a gang problem in the military?

4/26/2010 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have inserted my OPINIONS and COMMENTS in upper case to the words of Weis:

“The National Guard is very useful if we had a big earthquake" THE EFFECTS OF CHICAGO'S VIOLENCE REVERBERATES THOUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TOURISM INDUSTRY "or huge flood" OUR EMERGENCY ROOMS ARE FLOODED WITH VICTIMS OF VIOLENCE "or a catastrophe like that" YES MR. SUPT. AT AN AVERAGE OF ONE HUMAN LIFE A DAY TAKEN BY VIOLENCE MAY BE DEEMED A CATASTROPHE, "where we simply had to control folks,” THE RAMPANT GANGS ARE IN NEED OF CONTROL. MORE POLICE NEED TO BE HIRED OR CALL IN THE GUARD “But the problems we’re facing are illegal weapons," NO SHIT, "narcotics" DUH "and gangs". SOUNDS LIKE A STATE OF EMERGENCY TO ME. "And while I will always look out for as much help as we can, I don't think" HE DOES NOT THINK "the National Guard is the solution.”

THEN WHAT IS THE SOLUTION
MR. SUPT.?

4/26/2010 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

its easy. charge them in federal court. send them far away to federal prison. let them serve time instead of felony probation for a uuw offense. our ''fearless'' leader should know this....just ask him to pull a ''cozzi''.

4/26/2010 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Ironcrossed said...

The Guard? Really? What would they do? They are equipped and trained for disaster relief and open war/insurgency. I can't see using the NG for law enforcement, although the thought of some idiot gang banger opening up on them and disappearing in a pink mist as they return fire with a squads worth of weaponry is entertaining.

Just training the Guard for law enforcement work would take up time. And activating a unit from Effingham to deploy to Chicago would be a political disaster. (Think how well this would play out south of I-80) Unless they are going to send in the troops to kill lots and lots of bangers, I don't see this working.

Chicago, one bad idea after another.

4/26/2010 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/2200760,chicago-weekend-violence-deaths-042610.article

Damn it was a busy weekend!

4/26/2010 10:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm all for the national guard coming in. Let's see how the ghetto rats complain about the military.

4/26/2010 11:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You politicians and so called lawyers keep the hands of the police tied what do you expect. It has changed so much in the last few years that cops are afraid to get locked up or get sued for doing the job that they where hired to do and feel as if they are the criminals. A lot are just starting to collect a check and avoid all contact with the criminal element. It will get much WORSE. BE PREPARED DALEY

4/26/2010 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NBC Chicago News Online reporting that "some have asked that Weiss be fired"

http://www.nbcchicago.com
/news/local-beat
/Daley-and-Weis
-on-National-Guard
-in-Chicago-92093179.html

4/26/2010 11:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can't mix the Trojans with the Spartans.

4/26/2010 12:56:00 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

who are they gonna patrol but the southside, the southeast side and the west side. And who in the world has the balls to admit that all the crime is happenning within the black community, it will be political suicide. Have you started wondering where the hell is the rev jackson or meeks and why they arent speaking against black on black violence. because it will ruin their credibility of a racial excuse. No racism here, you just have to look at the pins on the map to see where the homocides and crime is happening. Good luck, because they may not be as lenient as the police. stop making excuses and teach your kids some respect, manners and responsibilities. Not knowing their daddy is not an excuse, and neither is being black.

4/26/2010 06:58:00 AM

Amen brother!!!

4/26/2010 12:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It worked in new orleans, military police on the streets. Let gets the guard

4/26/2010 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Although J-Fled said "this isn't Chiraq," in one recent interview, perhaps he and his policy dollies should have read the January 9, 2010 Trib guest column headlined, "Baghdad by the Lake: Chicago needs its own counterinsurgency program against violence."

The author, who it says spent time in Baghdad as a civilian adviser, suggests that the city about counterinsurgency -- COIN -- methods successfully used
in Baghdad. He wrote:

What should a full-spectrum COIN in Chicago look like?

--Bring the number of police officers up to the budgeted level of 13,500 so that at least 2,000 COINtrained personnel could be concentrated in "hot zones" to achieve the needed police-to-insurgent ratios.

--Increase the number of paid informants and infiltrators, effectively use federal eavesdropping laws and support the Cook County sheriff's jail inmate intelligence program to gather information about gang structure, operations, personnel and arms caches.

--Establish community juvenile courts to levy prompt justice for minors who commit smaller crimes that promote the sense of social disorder.

--In violence-prone neighborhoods, the city could team up with block clubs to create safety zones with
physical barriers. Gated communities should not be reserved for the well-to-do.

--Chicago's Operation Virtual Shield, already the nation's most extensive network of police and private cameras for surveillance of public space, can be greatly expanded.

--Under Operation Community Shield, Immigration officers recently rounded up 76 alleged gang
members. Capturing undocumented immigrant insurgents, "foreign fighters," is especially important
because law-abiding people in immigrant communities need assurance that the government in their new home can be trusted to protect them rather than leaving them to be exploited.

Sounds like a better plan than another 100-man strike force of the National Guard.

4/26/2010 01:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why bring in the National Guard when you have full duty Police Officers sitting in their cubicles at Headquarters playing on their computers, talking on the telephone-personal calls or driving their kids to school and taking classes on COMPANY TIME? Check it out IAD and media. Do nothing useless fucks. I see it every time on walk on the fourth floor of that building. No one is doing shit except socializing.

4/26/2010 01:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok bring them in. Maybe then we can start sending resources to the tax payers 16, 22 dist. etc..

4/26/2010 01:56:00 PM  
Blogger sc911 said...

It's just a political stunt. These clowns don't care about their communities. Everything is business as usual. As long as they get their share. They come up with shit to get their names in the news. It's all about them.

4/26/2010 02:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You don't need the NG.

You don't need more cops.

You need a political administration that is not in cahoots with the criminal element and a criminal justice system that actively goes after the most violent criminals.

You could have twice as many cops as you have now and until the active cooperation between the political machine that runs Chicago and Cook County is eliminated, it would make little difference.

4/26/2010 04:06:00 PM  
Anonymous sherlock, holmes said...

yes'''' it is blk on blk crime, and where are all the ministers. not saying shittt'''camera hog j. jackson said on channel 7.there is a police code also. officers are not telling.when asked about the street code.what aidiot. refrain from the question.no alderman. or no one in the blk community saying shit.i am blk and you guys are full of shit''danny davi, all you guys are hush, hush, you do not stand up for your community, only election time.you all can kiss my blk ass. dont come knocking on my door for votes i will tell yo ass off.

4/26/2010 04:17:00 PM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

Timing of all this National Guard "GUN" violence a little suspicious? The Supreme Court Chicago gun ban decision is soon to happen. Did you hear J-Fled on the news using the National Guard issue to talk about GUN Legislation? Did you know that there are SIX pieces of anti-gun legislation ready to be voted on in the IL congress and the gun grabbers are moving quickly because of the impending Supreme Court decision? Did you know that all SIX BILLS were introduced by Democratic State Reps just as is The National Guard and "GUN" violence issue that's being pushed? Amazing timing and coincidence. Democrats stand to win either way if this derails your 2nd ammendment in Chicago or gets us closer to Martial Law.

4/26/2010 04:33:00 PM  
Anonymous G. A. Custer said...

This is Bird-Dog-6, can I get an event number please...what ever the hell that is?

4/26/2010 04:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Open letter to the "representatives" suggesting the National Guard come to Chicago:

Bring in the Guard!

9% of the city blocks go on lockdown; marshal law.

Fence it off. Wrought iron & concrete barricades will do.

Sunset-sunrise curfew.

If violence is all they understand, bring them REAL VIOLENCE, in the form of 5.56 & 7.62mm.

They'll be begging for the police to return. Then hire more police!

As for the "representatives" and Gov. Quinn, you'll be able to look for new jobs then!

4/26/2010 04:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You won't see the National Guard on Lincoln Avenue, Touhy, 4000-7500on Milwaukee, etc.

Where would they be? 63 & Ashland,,,,89 & Exchange. The entire 11th, 7th, 6th, 3rd and 4th districts?

6.58am is correct, Meeks, JJ Sr, JJ Jr, and all the other mail order reverends will call it racist and discrimination and how white america doesn't understand black america.

In the meantime, 016,017, 020, 019,023 will be stripped of manpower on a daily basis to keep the animal in check, leaving the people who pay the highest taxes in the city without anywhere near the protection they need.

4/26/2010 05:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Savage behavior out there. Where's all the rev's speaking out about this? I guess they only come out from under the rock when it's beneficial for them. Oh yea, let some copper do something wrong and I'm sure we'll see them all over the news.

4/26/2010 06:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FINALLY!!!
Tonight, on Chicago Tonight, Carol Marin says, "We're two thousand short", in response to Mike Flannery saying he expects to see more police flooding certain areas. Flannery responds, "Right."

They're opening their eyes. Finally.

Expect to see Daley hire more police just as the mayoral election looms on the horizon.

4/26/2010 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's such a great idea--burn out our National Guard in Edgewater when we need them to police Kabul and Kandahar.

4/26/2010 07:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JFled is right on this.. the national guard is a bandaid unless the national guard wants to shoot it up in the hood and rid of the useless bangers. Too bad old man Daley can't be resurrected with the famous "shoot to kill" jargon.

The real problem is how the afro americans deal with conflict and their own problems within. Drugs and guns are the answer for them, not marriage, family, education and jobs. They don't want to be educated, just check out all the behavioral problems and truancy at CPS schools. The girls are just as bad with their pregnancies and protecting their baby daddy and all that drama. It's a continuing cycle generation after generation. Throw some government freebees in the name of section 8 housing, LINK, WIC, SSI checks and all that nonsense and it just fuels the fire.

4/26/2010 07:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least the Guard wouldn't have to put up will the political bullshit. Isn't it really sad though...the thought of the Military having to patrol the streets of Chicago...c'mon what does that really say about da mayor and government??? That they lost it! They have no control...they should be replaced immediately!!! I would say we have the MOST corrupt f-up local goverment in this country right now...what are we gonna do about it???? Get off your asses and vote!

4/26/2010 07:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say "bring them in"! Think about it. The guard comes in and we just sit back and laugh. Do you think the Guard is going to care about their "RIGHTS"? Who are they going to sue and get more money from? What do you think the Guard will do to all the animals running up on a crime scene causing issues? Do you think they care about a warrant when joe runs into the house? The way it is on the streets at this moment if the Guard comes in it just might save us from going to another brothers funeral. I agree with hire more Officers, but come on we know they dont care about us.

4/26/2010 09:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The real criminals are all in Sprinfield and 121 N. LaSalle.

They created the mist segregated city in the U.S.
Hoods like Englewood, Austin, Lawndale, etc. are just large projects. Unlike Cabrini, Taylor, Horner, etc. these jets are horizontal.

The democrats have run this city for ever, and life for the minorities has not improved by any stretch of the imagination. As long ad the dumbocRATS stay in power things will never improve in this rustbelt relic.

Lock and load boys and girls, go home safe.

4/26/2010 10:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

does the Guard generate Event numbers?

4/26/2010 10:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

put the clerical police on the street , do not send the police to non criminal imcidents

my 8 year old won't go to school
my boyfriend got home at 500am

get rid of the illegals , plenty of calls domestics , gangs etc

get rid of daley and 50 aldercreatures in 2011

4/26/2010 11:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Murders in Chicago since 1990:

1990: 851
1991: 927
1992: 943
1993: 931
1994: 929
1995: 827
1996: 789
1997: 759
1998: 704
1999: 641
2000: 628
2001: 666
2002: 647
2003: 598
2004: 448
2005: 449
2006: 467
2007: 442
2008: 510
2009: 458
---


They didn't scream for the national guard in the early 1990's, what's the problem?

4/26/2010 11:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can't mix the Trojans with the Spartans.

4/26/2010 12:56:00 PM

Ribbed or Un-Ribbed? Neon latex or other?
Just Sayin

4/26/2010 11:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Mr Remington says.... said...

Everybody wants the M4's but complain about the POWER test requirements. I have taken the test, failed it due to injury and being sick with a cold. Finally I was able to pass and the M4 is back with me in my squad. The rule is stupid, leaving me unable to carry the carbine till I was able to test again. I am 250 lbs and can hold onto my rifle. Is J-Weiss telling me Officers 1/2 my weight who can run 4 laps around the academy are better qualified and have better weapon retention strength? Why isn't the shotgun made more available? It is lighter and is better suited for most urban situations. The 00 Buck round is very effective and wont travel as far if you let a stray one go. The shotgun ammo is CHEAPER as well as the shotgun itself. As of now, there is no POWER test for that, but once qualified, an Officer cannot sign one out for basic patrol. Lets push for the authorization to carry the 12 Gauges and to be able to purchase/carry our own personal shotguns. Even the training is less time consuming. One day at the range, compared to the week for the M4. The whole program is more economical for the Department if you care about that. Officers can be trained in 1/5th the time and for a fraction of the cost. PUT THE RIGHT WEAPONS IN OUR HANDS!!!! People want the National Guard? Arm the Police and the few Officers out on the street will be able to better match up with the thugs that are trying to take over and run this City (although not on my Watch)!

4/26/2010 11:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem with this is Posse Commitatus (sp?). It restricts the use of federal troops (ie: army, marines, even Natl. Guard) in a law enforcement capacity where police or other sworn public officers are used by city and state government. Not that the Constitution stops anyone from doing shit anymore, but just saying. It sets a precedent. First its used on shit heads yeah, but who's next? Troops don't get warrants, they cordon and search. Its just a tricky situation. If Daley hired more bodies for the PD they could lock it down, but good luck with that. Its a tricky situation thats for sure in the warzone of Fallujah...oh wait, calling Chicago "Fallujah" is an insult to that now peaceful city...what a joke.

4/27/2010 01:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like a better plan than another 100-man strike force of the National Guard.

4/26/2010 01:26:00 PM

Excellent post. And it's not like these criminals are intelligent or anything. Never happen though. Makes too much sense.

---not a cop

4/27/2010 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"OHIO" by Cosby, Stills, Nash and Young

Tin soldiers and Nixon comin',
We're finally on our own,
This summer I hear the drummin',
Four dead in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it.
Soldiers are gunning us down.
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her and
Found her dead on the ground?
How can you run when you know?

Four dead in Ohio.
Four dead in Ohio.
Four dead in Ohio.
Four dead in Ohio.



You gonna pass that joint down or smoke the whole thing?

4/27/2010 06:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I loved watching Jody scrunch up his nose, look toward the ceiling while he was reciting the amendments. Like he was taking a test or something.

the party of the first part....


Goofball.

4/27/2010 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"shoot to kill"
words from 'ol man Daley

4/27/2010 11:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do we need the National Guard. Why not have the same politicians calling for the national Guard take the stupid restrictions off the Police so we can police. Have 35th stop taking the B.S. complaints against the officers from the gangbangers. Let Mayor Daley let the police do their job. Stop the stupid mission event numbers getting crap. Have the politician tell the backyard reverends to shut up and protest in front of the known gangbanger homes instead of police HQ. Have the politician tell their judge friend to start enforcing the laws the way they are suppose to be and the States Attorney to start prosecuting case. Stop letting these POS out of jail so fast and stop giving probation for everything. I’ll bet the crime will go down if people let the Police start being the police again, without the handcuffs on them so tight

4/26/2010 08:02
well said, we also need the ghetto community to make social changes from within....complete school, quit misbehaving and truancy, no teenage pregnancies, quit the multi generational government hand-out syndrome, get a job and show up on time and stay employed. Live like normal people and stop the violence against each other, stop blaming everyone else for your problems and misery.......etc.

4/27/2010 11:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What sort of ribbon will the guardsmen get for the battle of Chi=raq?

4/28/2010 06:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Charles Bronson has the solution for the high crime... especially in Englewood.

4/29/2010 04:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For those that have not seen Military intervention in a US city have no idea the effectiveness of a deployment of this caliber. Are there downsides to this type of action? Of course. However the positives will definitely outweigh the negatives. As much as I hate to say it, this is exactly what this city needs. The end result will restore peace. You will find that the ones complaining about the "loss of some of their rights" will be the ones that need to be targeted from the get go. We need to immeiately hire more Police and get them trained. In the mean time, let the Military be our saving grace. How long did it take the US Marines to bring LA back under control? Enough said.

4/29/2010 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

Hmmmm?

Sooooo?

Isn't this what happens when the smartest exempt echelon in the history of CPD have just flat run out of doo-doo (stupid, dangerous, fucked-up, short sighted, reconstituted, rehashed ideas) to fling against the wall in hope that some of it will miraculously stick?

Isn't this what happens when a deranged , misshapen and malignant manling holds the reins of power?

We are truly prepared to laugh our collective asses off when it finally comes out that the citizens of this city elected and continuously re-elected a certifiably crazy as a fuckin' moon-bat muthafuckah as mayor for 20+ years.

We will be in the first fall-back position about 100+ miles away, well provisioned, well armed and having a snifter clink while laughing our asses off again when the tornado of dude, shit, fire and unburied dead whirls unabated while the Police haters, shortshank ass-kissers and scooter riding, triscuit nibbling, capri pants & matching beret and ankle sock wearers (male and female) run, scream and cry for "somebody to do something to save us."

The "Welcome To Chicago" signs will be replaced by a gnawed skull impaled on a stick...

After all... They say they don't need the Police. The Police are why the city is in such dire financial shape.

Yeah...

Policemen get to personally set fiscal policy and approve municipal budgets.

Policemen are solely responsible for the nationwide financial melt-down.

Policemen are why shit-talkers are mad about their $100k plus jobs and eating their 401K's "If we don't have pensions neither should you cops... You should feel the pain too."

Of course the shit-talkers forget their fat season of pointing and laughing at Policemen... "Ha-Ha, old, fat dumb cops. We make more in a week than you do in a month, ha-ha, only dummies want to be cops!"

Now it's, "cut their pay, take away their pensions, fire all of 'em, we'll work for half... how hard is it to be a cop?"

Keep on believing shorty & the 50 thieves bullshit.

Calling in the National Guard WILL NOT FIX THIS SHIT BECAUSE TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE VESTED IN MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO!

There is no political will to make the unpopular decisions to address the problems at hand.

The politicians fucked it up but they're too craven to actually do what needs to be done to fix it.

Anyone who actually tries to fix it or attempt to solve this mess in a clear-eyed level headed manner is shouted down and hooted off stage.

Chicago is getting exactly what it deserves. The take a report, make a phone call notification and drop the report in the bin Police.

The cry is getting louder for a return to aggressive, head-knocking, ass-kicking policing to restore some semblance of order.

Sorry... That day is gone. Shorty & j-fled have decreed it so!

4/29/2010 10:54:00 PM  

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