Thursday, December 30, 2010

Probation

Four years worth for defending himself:
  • A University Park grandfather placed on probation for gunning down a dog owner after the man’s puppy urinated on his prized lawn was “absolutely relieved” he won’t go to prison.

    But relatives of Joshua Funches, who was shot to death during the May 9 confrontation, were outraged that Charles Clements will not serve time behind bars.

We're just glad a 70-year-old veteran doesn't have to take a beating from a 23-year-old punk. In the end, this wasn't about a dog peeing on the lawn, but about a bully biting off more than he could comfortably chew.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

COMPLETELY agree SCC.
This WAS NOT as the media has been selling it...

The man in question was an otherwise totally law abiding citizen who took pride in his well kept lawn. He is an enormous asset to that community and a role model for all. Some shithead was letting the dog piss on his lawn. The guy, being a Marine, was not intimidated and went out to tell the shithead to get the hell out of there. It escalated, the old man showed a gun, the thug decided to 'show his manhood' and started throwing punches. Being elderly, he shot in self defense. Period, end of story. This is no different than the old lady who was getting attacked by punk kids with bricks and shot in self defense.

This was not over a lawn. It was over the right of a homeowner to stand up for his property. Should the shithead feel 'dissed' and raise the stakes, that homeowner is permitted to defend himself in turn. We cannot continue to let these assholes run roughshod over our neighborhoods because we're too afraid to tell them to fuck off, for fear that they will take it to the next level. OK, take it to the next level, asshole. Some homeowners aren't afraid to dance. This guy wasn't.

Probation was too harsh. I'd have dismissed the charges all together. Still, accepting probation as a token sentence given the gravity of the outcome (which was entirely a result of the shitheads actions), society came out way ahead on this one. I'd pin a fucking medal on this guy.

That the DA saw the same facts we all did yet still felt compelled to charge this guy with Second Degree Murder was a travesty in itself. That twelve people actually convicted him is positively disgusting. Thankfully, the last safety valve of justice actually worked this time and the Judge used his discretion to do the right thing. Bless that judge. Let this burn in real good to all the LE out there. These are the same 12 people who will be trying YOUR case, if it ever comes down to it. Lets face it. Illinois is pro Shithead.

12/30/2010 12:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We're just glad a 70-year-old veteran doesn't have to take a beating from a 23-year-old punk"

There it is.....

Sam Colt, making men equal since 1836.....

12/30/2010 12:36:00 AM  
Blogger Phil Schitz here said...

Let this be a reminder: Respect your elders.

12/30/2010 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Three Cheers for "Grandfather" !! I think the probation wash a bit harsh. Why punish someone for defending themself ????

12/30/2010 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lesson to all the garbage out there. Stay away from armed pissed off old men and don't fuck with their grass. It's also a good idea not to start beating them up.

12/30/2010 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I live in the south suburbs. Piss on the punk, and his grave. Grandpa is a Marine! To his credit, Grandpa killed only what needed killing. That is to say, he spared the poor pooch and bagged pookie! Semper Fi!

12/30/2010 01:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let this be a lesson to irresponsible dog owners: be polite to those whose lawns are messed up by your pet's urinating and defecating.

12/30/2010 03:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who has read this story should know that the altercation did not stem from the dog urinating on the lawn: it stemmed from the dead guy pushing and cursing an old man who asked said person to keep their dog off his lawn. If the dead guy had been polite about it and apologized, instead of insulting and pushing the homeowner, he would be alive today.

12/30/2010 03:11:00 AM  
Anonymous 29 and a day said...

I was so glad to hear about this earlier today

Id like to have a beer with the guy

And I will vote to re elect the judge except he is in Will County

12/30/2010 03:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the the first case of justice properly administered in Illinois that I have head or read about in a long long time.

What did the punk say to the former marine? "Next time you pull a gun you better use it?"

OK, how did that smart ass comment and the punch in the face work out for you there Mr Funcheese?

.45 auto proves it's worth once again. One shot!

Thanks Marine for ridding the world of the pollution of any more Funcheese spawn.

12/30/2010 05:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oooooooh rrrraaaaaah! One shot one kill. Funches? What a Shithead family

12/30/2010 06:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You Sir are now my adopted Grandpa. Id like to take you to dinner!! God Bless you and your family!

12/30/2010 06:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When are the nit-wits around here going to realize that an old man is no match for a young thug under most circumstance? Oh, he was a Marine! He is an old man and a former Marine. I don't care if he's Attila the Hun, he's old and would have a hard time beating stupid in a fight. The law-abiding among us are not required to cower in fear and piss ourselves because a young monster is doing as he pleases. Old people are rightly afraid of young monsters and are entitled to defend themselves from what could be a crippling beating by using whatever tools they have available to defend themselves.

Old Jar-Heads 1, Douchebags, 0. Ooo-raaa.

12/30/2010 06:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know if everyone is a wear that this guy had received several awards for his lawn. And some thug came down with his dog to mess with this guy who never bothered anyone. When the old fella told the thug to go somewhere eles and reason with this thug, the thug used fowl language and punched the old guy. The thug got what he had coming when the. Old guy shot him. The thug was like a terrorist in the neighborhood. I am so happy that the judge seen it for what it is.

12/30/2010 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And the lesson is...Dont fuck with people.

12/30/2010 07:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Let this be a lesson to irresponsible dog owners: be polite to those whose lawns are messed up by your pet's urinating and defecating.

12/30/2010 03:08:00 AM

PAY ATTENTION A$$HOLE.... Don't comment unless you understand what your reading....

12/30/2010 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Unlike you I am the Police said...

To the first poster-
It's ASA, not DA. There are no "District Attornies" in Illinois,they are called "Assistant States Attornies". When you are posting on a Police website get your terminolgy correct.

12/30/2010 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for your service, Marine.

12/30/2010 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And I will vote to re elect the judge except he is in Will County

Oh, so THAT'S why he was only given probation! I wonder what Anita would have done?

12/30/2010 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous WGN RADIO said...

I was listening to the liberal talking heads (John Williams.. the piece of shit that he is) on WGN Radio about this subject.

They were all crying about the poor young man that was murdered by the gun toting bad man..
I think he should get a FUCKING MEDAL... I would shake his hand and buy him a beer.

Fuck these northside / Area 3 / Liberal WGN listening Cub Fan pukes!!!!!!!!

12/30/2010 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

University Park....A pretty decent town with a good Police Dept.
I stopped and asked a supervisor for directions one night..He was friendly and professional.

12/30/2010 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never ever bring a puppy to a gunfight.

12/30/2010 10:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just another IR number dead great job to the veteran like the New York "Broken windows theory" little crimes lead to bigger crimes he prevented a future pos from gaining any more innocent victims BRAVO!

12/30/2010 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reminds me of Gran Torrino......

"Get off my lawn"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NelBNtNm8l0

12/30/2010 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get off my lawn!!

12/30/2010 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As I understand the facts, the punk pushed, hit and cursed the old man. The old man feared for his safety, reasonably believing that death or great bodily harm was next, if he did not act. He shot his attacker in self defense, and should have been found not guilty.

12/30/2010 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Momma on front page of Tribune complaining about justice. The Tribune should address the issue of poor parenting instead. Raising thugs to push around elders, shame on her. Good to see some Judges don't compound bad jury decisions with undeserved punishment. That defendant deserves a medal and thanks from his neighbors for helping clean up the neighborhood.

12/30/2010 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry to say it but he got four years too long!!

12/30/2010 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW ~ probation, really?! Poor Cozzi sits in prison for cracking a shithead....

12/30/2010 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All prosecutions are selective and often political. Last time I checked, it was a felony to batter a senior citizen. So why was he even prosecuted? The Old Marine is a credit to the Corps and his training. Now there is one less shithead on earth.

12/30/2010 02:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never trust a Funches.

12/30/2010 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good call by the judge. The former father of three won't be making any more !!!

12/30/2010 08:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Fear no man, no matter what his size, when danger threatens call on me, and I will equalize"

From old colt firearms advertisments.

True then, true now!

12/30/2010 09:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@7:52am
Don't correct the first poster for saying DA instead of ASA. We all know what the person meant and who they were referring to. After reading the post, its obvious that this individual is one of the few citizens who sees things like we do and now you just made a comment that could possibly change his mind about the way he/she sees the police.

When citizens post on here, they can use any language they want you moron and if they say 'DA', ASA, or whatever, they shouldn't have to worry about some jagoff giving them stern instructions.

If I was a citizen and you said that to me, I'd be pissed.

Way to go asshole!

12/30/2010 10:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@ 'Unlike You I am the Police'

Thanks alot you idiot! You just pissed off one of the few citizens who are thinking correctly.
Who cares what terminology they used, their comment was solid.

And this is a blog, not a police website you big asshole!!

12/30/2010 11:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Old Marine makes sure he is well equipped and has situational awareness. Young "future ward of the state" has neither. Predictable outcome. Good job Marine.

We need to follow his example when it comes to taking out the trash at any and all opportunities.....

12/31/2010 03:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unlike you I am the Police said...
To the first poster-
It's ASA, not DA. There are no "District Attornies" in Illinois,they are called "Assistant States Attornies". When you are posting on a Police website get your terminolgy correct.

12/30/2010 07:52:00 AM

Instead of criticizing terminology from a citizen that does not know, maybe you should borrow your kids spelling books for a refresher.

12/31/2010 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funches was obviously a movie buff. The use of that over-used line "if you pull out a gun you better be ready to use it." Big mistake. Marines don't pull out guns unless they know there going to need them.

12/31/2010 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@ "Unlike you I am the Police"

You may be LE, but you're clearly a jagoff. The guy was right. People who take pride in making stupid little technical corrections are almost always unaccomplished, petty assholes.

First Poster: Agree.

12/31/2010 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the first poster-
It's ASA, not DA. There are no "District Attornies" in Illinois,they are called "Assistant States Attornies". When you are posting on a Police website get your terminolgy correct.

12/30/2010 07:52:00 AM

Hey Officer Tackleberry, when busting someone out regarding their "terminolgy" try to spell "attornie" correctly.

Are you in TRU or MSF? Just wondering.

12/31/2010 09:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Unlike you I am the police
Assholes like you are one of the reasons I'm so happy to be retired... We have enough enemies out there without some pompous ass like you making more for us. Especially as earlier posters noted, out of a citizen whose head seems to be in the right place.... I'm sure all of your friends, neighbors, and every person you encounter in a bar knows you are the police... BTW, check your spelling... Only a no time on the job punk spells attorneys,"attornies".

12/31/2010 10:26:00 AM  

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