Brilliant F#$%ing Plan
After a five-month post-mortem about the Blizzard of 2011 fiasco, Chicago’s top emergency officer was asked Monday how he intends to prevent another shutdown on Lake Shore Drive.
Gary Schenkel’s answer had nothing to do with the 12-page report’s proposal to install cuts in median planters along the Drive to provide access for emergency equipment and give stranded motorists a place to turn around.
- “We’re gonna pray a lot and hope that God doesn’t dump another 40 inches of snow on us,” said Schenkel, executive director of the city’s Office of Emergency Management and Communications.
And this is just ignorant:
Asked whether anybody needs to be taken to the woodshed for what happened on Lake Shore Drive, Schenkel replied, “Absolutely not.”
In fact, if he had it to do all over again, Schenkel said he would “probably not” close Lake Shore Drive before the storm hit. Instead, he would “wait for the situation to develop” as his predecessor did on Groundhog Day.
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posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
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The three stooges are smarter than these three FUC%^&G bozos
Tommy Byrne, Daley flunky and former CPD Exempt has always had Ald. O'Connor as his clout. Now next to Burke, this is the most powerful alderman in the City Council, so nobody is going to put the blame where it belongs, and that is on Tommy's fat ass.
The biggest problem with the city's snow response is simple to spot.
This is not 1967. The forecasting computers and models showed this was coming a few days before. It wasn't a surprise. Simply put the Mayor should have gotten on TV and told folks that downtown was basically going to be closed on the day of the storm.
Instead you had people work half a day and then spend hours trying to get home in the middle of a blizzard.
Stupid.
I hunkered down at home around 6pm that night and didn't bother moving until maybe 9am the next morning for snow removal.
The drive should have been closed, Park District parking lots should have been utilized for parking for the idiots stupid enough to be driving and warming buses etc could have been opened and used for the temporary "refugees".
Is it me? Have I become so cynical and jaded that the majority of the whining from people that were stuck on LSD were ones too dumb to save themselves? Ones that expect someone else (like the government) to save them when the shit hits the fan? The “Someone ought to DO SOMETHING” crowd, you know the ones that cry, but will never buck up and be that “someone”.
From what I remember, there were citizens, like normal people, on LSD offering those stuck water. Am I the only one that remembers that? So people could walk on the drive without getting themselves killed.
At this point, I’m voting that someone brings back the dinosaurs! The apocalypse is looking better and better! I’m pretty sure I’m going to make it!
But he can put PENNY in charge of praying for no snow! Perfect!
I strongly suggest she start early, like now. She can stand in the middle of LSD traffic and raise her hands to the skies, begging for God not to spit when it's cold outside and therefore there should be no snow next winter.
That is, if she survives standing in the middle of Lake Shore Drive, of course. (One can only hope...)
In fact, if he had it to do all over again, Schenkel said he would “probably not” close Lake Shore Drive before the storm hit. Instead, he would “wait for the situation to develop” as his predecessor did on Groundhog Day.
ah, the old 'waiting for the situation to develop' strategy.
that's like putting on the condom after you've ejaculated.
Wasn't Commander KR of tru in charge that night? Another example of bosses who mess up and still remain untouched. Then on top of that they disband his unit but he gets to be a commander of nothing.
The Blizzard is just another disaster that Da Mayor will never have to answer for. No politician in this town will ever question King Richard even though he does not occupy the 5th floor anymore. Don't expect anything different from the new Boss. You can see by his appointment of connected retreads where he stands. The more things change the more they stay the same.
Gary Schenkel’s answer had nothing to do with the 12-page report’s proposal to install cuts in median planters along the Drive to provide access for emergency equipment and give stranded motorists a place to turn around.
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You mean Shortshanks' Maggie boxes keep people from being able to move and emergency vehicles trapped with those vehicles in the event of a crisis?
Who ever would have guessed? Next thing you're going to tell me is they cost money to install and maintain while potentially getting people killed.
If you tell me someone's getting a kickback on all of this, I'll be flabbergasted. Idiots.
What did anyone expect of Schenkel, really? He didn't prove to be much of a brain trust when he ran the Academy years back under the Hillard I administration.
But as you stated here SCC, all you've gotta have is enough clout, and that will be enough to pull you through in the tight spots.
1) Schenkel
2) Masters
3) Huberman
Does anyone see a pattern of stupidity and overreaching of one's capabilities/skills here?
Thanks for the laughs, Shortshanks.
Snow disaster had no persons responsible for the oversight of the disaster recovery, but many victims.
I wonder what would happen if Chicago got hit with something terrorist-related?
BIG questions to ask, if I were Rahm:
What are we spending all this money on? More importantly, who are the "people in charge"?
Where is the plan? Got one? Does it work? Has it ever been tested?
One thing I learned a LONG time ago, first-class leaders surround themselves with first-class subordinates. Second-class leaders surround themselves with fourth-class subordinates because they don't want any "potential competition" for their jobs.
Schenkel should simply declare that it is unlawful to stop and park on the drive and that any driver caught parking on LSD and impeding the progress of the snow plows will be ticketed and have their cars towed and impounded.
That ought to keep the drive clear and pay for the snow removal.
But that petition the lord with prayer part is good. We need some tambourine banging and bone throwing in there too. A few voodoo curses and maybe the Cubs goat.
You gotta love this shit, we are probably the only cold weather large city in the world that has such problems with a snow storm. Pray for no snow.
Next Schenkel can go down to New Orleans and pray for no hurricanes and then on to Japan and pray for no earthquakes.
As for me, I am praying for retirement day to come quickly. And that one most definitely WILL happen in 25 months.
If he is the top emergency officer, we're in big fucking trouble.
---not a cop
DC-VA-MD put measures in place BEFORE the first snowflake hits the ground. Most businesses and government agencies will give 2 hour late start or early leave -many times the snow doesn't even amount to a dusting but they would rather be safe than sorry and they do have plenty of equipment to deal with it. Chicago is always so afraid of closing things down. Also, essential personnel gets double OT time (even if its regular scheduled time) for those hours when government is shut down-food for thought for Chicago essential.
Stay Safe and Thank you.
When did the American public become so overwhelmingly dependent on the government to do all things for them? When did our fellow Americans become dependent on our government but not on themselves or fellow citizens? This huge snow storm is a perfect example. Everyone knew the storm was coming two to one day before it hit. The day before everyone knew it was coming for sure. The day the storm hit everyone knew it was going to be a big one. Yet, despite it all people went about their usual business. My own daughter went shopping on the Magnificent Mile and then decided it was a bright idea to drive on Lake Shore Drive back home to her condo in Wrgleyville. I asked why she made such a dumb mistake. Her reply was "I thought the city would be better prepared".
We pay him all this money and his solution is to Pray to God?
The weathermen forecasted this DAYS beforehand. 24 hours pre-storm they were 80-90% that a major storm was coming, and the morning of, said the brunt will hit right at rush hour.
Out of city hall not even a "Leave work early if possible"...nothing.
Granted, the intensity of the storm couldn't be kept up with by the plows, but what, do you have to be smacked upside the head to not heed the warnings?
My dumb poleese ass on RDO was smart enough to fill the gas tank, buy some frozen pizzas, and stock up on booze. The stupidity out of city hall never ceases to amaze.
ah, the old 'waiting for the situation to develop' strategy.
that's like putting on the condom after you've ejaculated.
Got that right.
Maybe the heat melted their brains, if they ever had any.
Cue the scarecrow.
God, we are all doomed...these are our leaders???
more daley mismanagement
This clout system is poisonous. You let people that have no business in a department. Because of who they know or blow they are now the boss. But they were so busy trying to get out of whatever job they should not even be doing, they have no fucking clue how to manage. Now we are all stuck in the snowed over LSD and no one knows how to get out.
Well, now you have some confirmation of who Tom Byrne's clout is and who pushed him up the CPD promotion laddeer; Ald. O'Conner who now is protecting his job as city commissioner.
Sooo the city's emergency action plan amounts to one suckhole asking another suckhole "what do we do now"?? Wtf
Only the lowly civil servants get punished. Years ago heads rolled when the snow disaster was not handled correctly, now it's "oh well", we messed up bad but still collect 100 k +.
And most recently an alderman said a spokesman for Rahm threatened him if he went against the new mayors choice of placing a certain person in a key position. The response from mayors office, It never happened", not we'll look into it, or put him on leave til the investigation is over. So are we to believe the alderman lied? Where's truth in government?
The Luftwaffe yes men promised Hitler that they could supply the Russian front by air power. That plan was thwarted by weather, planning and lack of equiptment too. If you don't learn from history you will repeat it!
Screw the people that say it should of been closed down earlier. Plus once it got bad & they closed the drive the cars were already there. had they had emegency turn arounds this would had never gotten that bad.
Ok for the ones tothat say close it down ahead of time or close downtown for the whole day. When do we decide to do that? How much snow predicted? 2"? maybe 4"? or when they predict 6"?
Do you know how many times over the last 4 years that I heard forcasters say we will be getting 4-8 inches of snow and we didn't even get a flake?
How many days do we do that and the forecasters are wrong before it starts to drive people crazy?
IMO only 2 things need to be done. Cut-aways to turn cars around & gates to close the drive from a remote location so we don't need cop cars sitting at the entrances doing nothing when we are short already. They have the gates all up the inbound Kennedy & Ike already to close inbound traffic. They could do it on the drive too.
Anyone not involved with public safety should have stayed home that day.
EVERYONE had ample warning of the storm.
Anonymous said...
What did anyone expect of Schenkel, really? He didn't prove to be much of a brain trust when he ran the Academy years back under the Hillard I administration.
But as you stated here SCC, all you've gotta have is enough clout, and that will be enough to pull you through in the tight spots.
1) Schenkel
2) Masters
3) Huberman
Does anyone see a pattern of stupidity and overreaching of one's capabilities/skills here?
Thanks for the laughs, Shortshanks.
6/21/2011 03:20:00 AM
How can you compare schenkel to masters and huberman? What did schenkel do that was so bad at the academy? Compared to today he was very effective with training. Look what we have today at the academy? Howard is terrified to make a decision and training is the last priority. Give me a break. Schenkel did an excellent job with training but was knocked out by Cline. Tobias was also very good as a leader. I never thought anyone could mess up the academy sooo bad as Howard.
'One thing I learned a LONG time ago, first-class leaders surround themselves with first-class subordinates. Second-class leaders surround themselves with fourth-class subordinates because they don't want any "potential competition" for their jobs.'
Boyo, you said a mouthful of the truth! And there's no better example than the City of Shitcago. As long as they're clouted, proven experience will never matter. Put in a clueless head of a dept. or agency that in truth answers only the Mayor, and a second in command (even more clueless) who will sit there, shut up and collect big checks until told what to do, and what to say. Does that adequately sum up the previous Supts. we've had in the past (Martin, Rodriguez, Hillard, Weis) and 1st Deputy Supts. (Starks, JJ, and now Wysinger)?
Can you say chronic lack of leadership capabilities?
Monitor the Drive,Ha Ha Ha I was working at 018 that day It was at a standstill at at 3oClock cars stuck and spun out Complete Morons in charge.
Bring in Scheamr!
We cannot get this guy quick enough, his boy G-Mac is screwing things up, better get the golden One, and now!
“We’re gonna pray a lot and hope that God doesn’t dump another 40 inches of snow on us,” said Schenkel.
Pray?? How theist of him!
He's a government employee-he should be crossing his fingers!!
Is it me? Have I become so cynical and jaded that the majority of the whining from people that were stuck on LSD were ones too dumb to save themselves? Ones that expect someone else (like the government) to save them when the shit hits the fan? The “Someone ought to DO SOMETHING” crowd, you know the ones that cry, but will never buck up and be that “someone”.
No, it's not just you. You're absolutely correct. This is Darwin's Theory at work, except government DOES try to save these lowest common denominators.
"You mean Shortshanks' Maggie boxes keep people from being able to move and emergency vehicles trapped with those vehicles in the event of a crisis?
"Who ever would have guessed? Next thing you're going to tell me is they cost money to install and maintain while potentially getting people killed.
"If you tell me someone's getting a kickback on all of this, I'll be flabbergasted. Idiots.
--6/21/2011 02:33:00 AM
Kickbacks? Ha. Gonna cost even more money to have Daley/Vanecko Planter Removal Corp. tear 'em back out.
This is nothing. I watched them put the State Street Mall in, and twenty years later I stumbled over the mess as they tore it back out.
"Build the city up! Tear the city down! Let us have a city!"
"This is not 1967. The forecasting computers and models showed this was coming a few days before. It wasn't a surprise."
--6/21/2011 12:36:00 AM
Yeah, I actually still have the little note to myself on the front of the computer. "Mon. night 2" - 4" - BIG blizzard Tues. night-Wednesday." We actually saw this coming for almost a week beforehand.
"Simply put the Mayor should have gotten on TV and told folks that downtown was basically going to be closed on the day of the storm."
The Mayor ran and hid like the rat that he is, then came out a day or so later and got in everyone's face, railing and lecturing. "I'm not going to micromanage! I have very good people here!"
Any excuse not to lead.
You should hear the yups call in every night in 023 because of the construction on LSD is too loud, like Rocco the construction guy has a silencer for his asphalt laying equipment.
What an A-HOLE!! I may be a little off but I believe we only got 22 inches of snow. We a crew of fools we have running this city.
I agree that the road should of been closed earlier but every person who drove out onto that road at 4-6pm deserved what they got. I live and work at Northwestern Hospital and all you had to do was look outside and say 'hey it is snowing really hard, maybe I shouldn't drive next to the lake with water pouring onto the road'. Self responsibility is crying softly in the corner.
“We’re gonna pray a lot and hope that God doesn’t dump another 40 inches of snow on us,” said Schenkel, executive director of the city’s Office of Emergency Management and Communications."
Oh, funny man, huh?
Fire this asshole.
What morons! people were stranded oh the pain! the jagoffs stranded could of walked 1 block to safety! The idiots on the drive thought this was bad? WTF! they act like the city left them on a deserted island a bunch of losers were "stranded"! We need a plan! OK! How about when it snows like that you don't drive there ya go idiots!
My current summer bedtime reading -- The Children's Blizzard, David Laskin, 2004, Harper Collins. Great American weather disaster -- almost unknown today.
Hundreds killed on the Dakota/Nebraska Great Plains -- especially children walking home from one-room rural schoolhouses -- by a terrible cold front and blizzard on January 13, 1888.
Weather forecasting was in its early days, and any reports were sent by telegraph bewteen railroad stations in the towns. If you were forty miles from town up a dirt road, you had no communication at all, no warning except the "weather eye" of some of the more experienced farmers.
If you didn't have a rope tied between your house and barn, you'd have died going out the door and trying to get to the barn -- lost and wandering in 0/0 visibility. You could be three feet from the building and not see it.
Recommended. Very sad. Good lessons.
Captain Willard,
Everyone has a breaking point. You have one and so do I. Obviously Col Schenkel had reached his.
Retire the Col with extreme respect.
We are up against a new enemy who can destroy honor and will power.
(Can't wait for his book after his therapy and debriefing)
(OT) dam it i am eddie burke I keep my valets man servants!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/clout/chi-mccarthy-says-court-order-means-ald-burke-keeps-police-detail-20110621,0,7130224.story
Lawdy, God awmighty, please don't rain down the snow!
This city is run by one incompetent after another. Putting Byrne and the other jackasses in job after job when they have no clue how to run a lemonade stand let alone important city departments is ludicrous!
This would never happen in private industry.
I have an MBA, and I don't think I would be nearly equipped to run a large city department--WTF???
It's like putting a pig farmer in charge of Microsoft. Oh my, maybe that's why this city is so f*cked up!
And this guy is paid how much to leave things as they are??
Shit, my dog could do THAT.
Good Plan, let's tear out the planters that Daley's wife thought were a great idea and go back to the original LSD of the 50's with the lane dividers that popped up and would allow you to have reversible lanes for am & pm rush hours, or emergency disasters and record snowfalls.
Boy, those planners from 60 years ago had some smarts, too bad the Daley wrecking crew ruined everything!
At least Schenkel did not throw anyone under the bus. Gotta see a positive in that.
The pattern of stupidity continues, courtesy of the former flunkies of the Chicago Police Dept.
Let's try these wonderfully stupid ideas for the next LSD blizzard ;
1) supply every police officer, crossing guard, traffic aide a shovel. A "Yes We Can" attitude will clear LSD Hollywood to 95th in a day.
2) Walsh Construction can build a wall along the lake to fend off prevailing snow storms, better yet, a 20 year Project Underground LSD, for winter use only. This will provide countless 'shovel ready' jobs.
3) Tax all vehicles using LSD Nov-Mar unless they agree to sprinkle salt along their way. Greenies can use kitty litter.
4) Install a camera in every light pole to monitor snow flake activity.
5). Form a Weather Prediction and Analysis Bureau to pinpoint where the next blizzard will form along LSD.
6) Hire Schenkels as the OEMC chief.
7) scratch # 6, it'll never happen.
How can you compare schenkel to masters and huberman? What did schenkel do that was so bad at the academy? Compared to today he was very effective with training. Look what we have today at the academy? Howard is terrified to make a decision and training is the last priority. Give me a break. Schenkel did an excellent job with training but was knocked out by Cline. Tobias was also very good as a leader. I never thought anyone could mess up the academy sooo bad as Howard.
6/21/2011 10:32:00 AM
I maybe wrong but I seem to remember that When Mr. Schenkel was in charge of the Academy, he fired people that were passing, for not shooting 80% min. on qualifications. 70+ was passing???
He had a minni Marine corp. set up.
I maybe wrong but I seem to remember that When Mr. Schenkel was in charge of the Academy, he fired people that were passing, for not shooting 80% min. on qualifications. 70+ was passing???
He had a minni Marine corp. set up.
6/22/2011 03:23:00 AM
When you are talking about stray bullets, isn't 80% way better than 70%?
I wasn't a Marine, but I think the CPD can use a little more "Marine".
'I wasn't a Marine, but I think the CPD can use a little more "Marine".'
3M claims to have been a captain in the Marine Corps.
So what's your fucking point? Don't assume that everyone who was in the military is cut out for police work. From what I've seen, the military has had more than its share of fuckups/political sacred cows too.
Seems to be a lot more akin to the political appointed clout positions given away here in Shitcago.
I maybe wrong but I seem to remember that When Mr. Schenkel was in charge of the Academy, he fired people that were passing, for not shooting 80% min. on qualifications. 70+ was passing???
He had a minni Marine corp. set up.
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Never heard of him firing someone who passed the course, only those who failed. But so what? the STATE MINIMUM is 70%. That doesn't mean that jurisdictions can't have higher requirements. Our Use of Force policy is tricter than the State's, why can't our firearms qual be? As far as mini Marine Corps goes, we are supposed to be a "para-military" organization. How many times have we heard that?
RH
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