Former Commander to Reveal All?
This might be a very large problem and ties into everything that has been said for years about one set of rules for the clouted and one for the peons:
- Three weeks after two police officers sued the Chicago Police Department, claiming they were outed by superiors even as they conducted an investigation of police corruption, a veteran investigator from the department’s internal affairs division came forward Tuesday, backing their story.
That investigator, a former IAD commander who asked that NBC Chicago withhold his identity, said he had direct knowledge of the investigation by officers Shannon Spalding and Daniel Echeverria, which led to the arrest of fellow officers Ronald Watts and Kalatt Mohammed.
Watts and Mohammed were accused of shaking down drug dealers, but Spalding and Echeverria said the investigation was compromised before its conclusion, as their identities were revealed and they were virtually blackballed within the department.
Asked if he believed the investigation would have led to evidence of wrongdoing by more officers, the former IAD official left no doubt.
"Absolutely. I’ve seen the pictures," he said.
Pictures? Code of Silence? Blackballed?
Hello Federal Oversight.....you've been a long time coming.
Hello Federal Oversight.....you've been a long time coming.
Labels: corruption, scandals
posted by SCC at 7:15 AM
215 Comments:
SCC, are you quite sure you want that so called beloved Federal oversight? The Feds will first off suspend all or part of all labor contracts. Then they will run things as they see fit. Grievance? Hah! Be careful what you ask for.
Welcome to all our visitors from Lighthouse for the Blind!
If you could just point to the instance where we say we want Federal oversight, we'd be so very appreciative. Thanks.
chief Rivera and commander Klimas need to go.This has been said for the longest time also the confidential section needs to be skaken up.There should be no p,o s.. sgt and above should be conducting investigations,,
blackballed? they work in fugitive apprehension?
It would seem to be a natural progression of way things have been going on this job. From bad (Weis) to worse (McNumbNuts)to the unimaginable. Say it ain't so, Joe.
How does this department earn its' way back to responsibility, respectability and public trust when it has completely destroyed itself? The lack of competent leadership, government officials that treat the honest, hard working officers as though they were chattel, a minute number of criminal blue shirts,criminal line and supervisory personnel and morale amongst the membership the lowest I've encountered in the 26 years I've been a Chicago Police officer makes me believe that a complete reorganization is long overdue. Federal intervention is not warranted but It is going to be a long, hard road back and many of us will be long retired before it happens. How much worse can it get before we really clean house? Where do we begin? More to the point-WHEN do we begin?
Why did this former exempt choose to conceal his identity? Putting a face to a rat or stoolie can be detrimental to one's well being. That's the precise reason why no one wants to get involved.
"Commander?" We've had ADS's and now Chiefs but there have been only two Commanders in IAD and one is still with us. It is more likely the anonymous source was either a CO of a section or a Sergeant. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Anonymous said...
SCC, are you quite sure you want that so called beloved Federal oversight? The Feds will first off suspend all or part of all labor contracts. Then they will run things as they see fit. Grievance? Hah! Be careful what you ask for.
11/21/2012 07:20:00 AM
Dummy SCC is not advocating federal oversight. However with all of this nonsense happening don't be surprised if it does happen.
OH its a commander now its the truth!
If he seen the pictures guess what he just had more rule violations than you can shake a stick at!
But you must ask yourself why would a former clouted one become a person who has a soul and wants to speak out.
Just take a look at who just became a Superintendent at street and sanitation (garbage guys).
The clouted are given primo spots to keep their mouths shut and it has nothing to do with there amazing skills of killing crime stats...
Dont think those white shirts you hardly see are your friends they are climbing a ladder/
The rest of the 002 housing team is still in place like nothing happened and been told that the investigation is over.
alot of clout BS going on in the fire dept too!
Ah, remember Packman?
SCC, are you quite sure you want that so called beloved Federal oversight? The Feds will first off suspend all or part of all labor contracts. Then they will run things as they see fit. Grievance? Hah! Be careful what you ask for.
11/21/2012 07:20:00 AM
With the Feds, at least we'll get regular raises
Can anyone explain why there is now a camara in the sgts office now in the 015 district? Micro mangaged to the T. What the F*** is going on there? Can anyone confirm?
All the bosses cover for each other. You can't even get them to do anything about out of control Lieutenants who don't bother showing up to work.
Well, this is easy to deduct.
Klimas is the only Commander in the history of IAD. It wasn't him.
Barb West was a Lt that would have known about this because she was Chief Tina Skahill's go to person...God only knows why.
Keith Calloway knew about it as the Lt before Barb West.
So it's either Barb West or Keith Calloway. Regardless of the reporter using the word "he" I'm placing my bets on Barb because I believe that her and Skahill are not named on the lawsuit even though they are the ones who promised these two goofs promotions.
And really, all it did was confirm that there was an active joint investigation with IAD and FBI That had gone on for years before these two found out about it. So I'm not sure this is really much of a bombshell at all. The case got stalled when the Wells Housing Projects got taken down as that was Watt's hunting grounds.
I still maintain, much ado about nothing.
Lets see if they go after Kirby&company for the Finigan mess
too.
I have friends on the LAPD, you don't want oversight
Last thing you want is a consent degree!!! I really hope you guys don't get that, it's a horrible experience and does nothing but create extra useless paperwork and a ton of inefficiencies!!!
That investigator, a former IAD commander who asked that NBC Chicago withhold his identity
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can't be that many former IAD commanders of that era. my guess - the name was held mostly for dramatic effect.
so this former "anonymous" commander is coming forward now because why? because he/she chose not to incriminate him/herself THEN but NOW there should be an investigation on him/her. i dont know who was commander then clearly. either way i have a hard time believing the media when they want to put us in the news like this.
Non story police were arrested and charged where is the cover up?
Does being put under Federal oversight mean we would also reap the benefits of better vision, dental and healthcare plans?
What'd be killer would be getting that awesome Fed pension, as I don't believe I've heard a peep about diminishing anything on their end. Would we fall under that umbrella also? Talk about The Law of Unintended Consequences!
All kidding aside, I'd prefer to do without Fed oversight, but I AM a big fan of watching a handful of the "Untouchables" go down in grand fashion.
Those with any kind of time on the job always knew there existed multiple levels of discipline. The clouted, blessed and those of particular bloodlines always seem to land on their feet and move up the CPD foodchain. Same goes for the sword swallowers, human pin cushions and the occasional Gold Star secretary that decides to let the bun deposited by her married supervisor bake completely. Meanwhile, the nobodies are made sacrificial lambs, oftentimes led to career, character and financial slaughter without due process, all to perpetuate the charade and illusion that the CPD can police it's own.
If I were the gambling type, I'd lay a handsome wager on some expedited retirements in the very near future. Bossholes thay may have been waffling over the big decision will have magically acquired newfound clarity in their choice to pull the pin. Funny how shit like this works.
Pull up a chair and gather 'round. This is gonna be epic.
This is why you do nothing more than what you need to get special!!
The last guy out...turn off the lights!!!
Funny thing is we all have known that there are different rules for different people on the CPD for a long time. This isn't anything new. The connected can get away with everything while the average Joe gets the full punishment. This still takes place now. The special people are also most likely in the "merit crowd."
Federal oversight? Gee, what a great idea! Obama so loves the police. What culd possibly go wrong?
Oh yea and one of WATTS long time team members was just promoted to sgt meritoriously! Things that make u go hmmmm.
Just how much and for how long did this "former commander" know and NOT make things right? Methinks someone is trying to save his own skin by making a deal with the Feds, albeit kind of too late in the game. Maybe just trying to minimize the reaming he's gone get. Regardless, I sincerely hope this investigation and revelation takes down a ton of arrogant clout heavy asshole bosses. No doubt a lot of people are frantic right now, calling attorneys, hiding assets etc. This show is gonna be better than Barnum & Baileys greatest show on earth. Get the popcorn and some beers boys and girls.
The identity of the "Commander" won't be secret for long. Did anyone notice that the chair Phil Rogers was sitting in when he interviewed the "Commander" has the same brown print as the chairs Herbert and his co-counsel are sitting in? The interview of the "commander" therefore took place at Herbert's office. As a lawyer, Herbert will have to reveal the name of the "commander" as a witness. So much for the secrecy. I Can't wait to find out who it is.
So the million dollar question is why did the Commander of IAD not push this case further? If we are supposed to believe what you are saying now, why werent you honest back when you knew all about this? You dont get to be head of IAD without wheeling and dealing. So how much of this is sour grapes from someone who lost the spot?
I pray this is true and he's not full of crap. Who hasnt seen some hinky shit and stood by mute for fear of reprisal? BUT, I want to see some bosses fry for a change...
Anonymous said...
SCC, are you quite sure you want that so called beloved Federal oversight? The Feds will first off suspend all or part of all labor contracts. Then they will run things as they see fit. Grievance? Hah! Be careful what you ask for.
11/21/2012 07:20:00 AM
I am in agreement, asking the Feds. May back fire for a lot of good cops. Yeah, some investigation is needed. But the feds will come in and could suspend all or parts of all labor contracts. Which would hurt all the good honest cops that are working! This guy is right, be careful what you ask for!
I wonder if it has anything to do with the stuff at Area 1. Detectives are being watched leave early after 5-6 hours days by the media. Someone pointed them in the right direction.
Federal oversight does not suspend labor contracts.That is against federal law. I am not sure of all that it might encompass, but personnel decisions and internal investigations does come under their authority. They appoint a manager that must approve many administrative actions. I would love for some former exempts to come forward and discuss the inner workings of the department, from merit promotions,how exempt members are picked, to assignments, to ghost workers ( seen more then one in my day), to IAD investigations, to under the table perks given exempt members from free tickets to vacations . It would be enlightening . What could be worse? It would not hurt the little guy pushing the beat car around every day.
Nothin new here , rumor is scandal dealing with narcotics in 15 , austin district was shut down early because it went up in cpd ranks and most involved were blacks
in case none of you know but we have been under "federal oversight" since 2008. Its not official because daley did everything in his power to make sure there was not federal oversight... the last person wanting the feds monitoring a city department was daley. After SOS, abatte and the punk drunk coppers at Jefferson park etc the feds went to daley and gave him his options... do what we say and avoid official oversight from the feds or have the feds step in. That is why we got Jody Weis. Then Jody got rid of almost the entire "old school" command staff to cut the head off of the old way of doing things. He then replaced them with younger unknowns and timid yes men... after he did that he then replaced many of them which created more of a gap of the old way of doing things which in turn changed the department to be more straight. Then McCarthy got put in and not someone from the inside. Its not a coincidence that we have not had a supt promoted from within the dept... This is a plan that is set into place from the feds. If you dont think that the feds are not overseeing things unofficially then ive got a bridge to sell you. Be careful what you do... They are here and they are aware of whats going on...Its just not official. They did the same thing to Los Angeles before official federal oversight happened. They had the feds pulling the strings for about 3 years before they officially stepped in.
SCC ,your a great site but I've been around the block. We do not want anything to do w/the feds, they look down on all police officers,after 40yrs I've worked w/them on task forces etc. they would love to put us all in jail given the chance.Never ever trust them to do the right thing ,it will not happen.Happy Thanksgiving! From old ret. p/o.
CPD is Corrupt, and so are the Feds, so what's the difference who runs CPD?
Al, is that you?
The media will believe anything
Federal oversight would be much better than the current status quo of unbridled corruption, coverup, Clout, nepotism and humiliation.
The two-tier system of discipline must end!
The blatant criminals within our ranks must be purged!
I hope all is revealed and we piss the public off maybe major changes will than take place.
Who is the former boss that is telling all?
I bet the boss is john minogue
What is the problem going on in area 1?
I'm sorry, but I'll believe it when I see it. I would lead a ticker tape parade for an exempt who came clean and pulled the curtain off all the crooked bullshit this dept and city pulls. The problem is I have lost hope that any one of them ever will.
Where was the media outrage when the investigation of Governor Elvis was stopped before its logical conclusion? Who was protected and who protected them? You don't think it is driving Rod and Jesse Jr. nuts that Barry and his crew got a pass and they got the high hard one?
Feds? Just in time for the latest sgt "test" ?
Gee whizz we sure hope that this scandal and the lawsuits that will most definitely follow isn't going to cut into that $4 million dollars that Rahm has left over from NATO.
/sarcasm
But if the labor contracts are cancelled, like Quinn is doing at the state level then can you not strike?
Sure I guess they could fire everyone and then let the Cease Fire Street Friars run the show. The mayor would luv that.
I'm advocating federal oversight. I'm tired of the deep rooted corruption, the clout, ALL OF IT. This Dept is ruined. It's DONE. I went from being proud to tell people im CPD to being ashamed. Tear this bitch down and start fresh. Its the only real way to mulligan. You CAN have oversight without losing all of your contractual rights....
Nice..the feds will be running the CPD and with the state workers going on strike as Quinn attacks their union we could end up with the National Guard running the prisons.
The fiscal cliff fear drama that we're all going die is being played up for all it's worth in an effort to win the so called hearts and minds of the taxpayers and to maintain social order when the austerity cuts come down on social security and pensions.
All that and more..
The state is broke and now we have to waste even more money to hold a election for the JJJ's vacant position as the politicians fall over one another to grab that seat.
I wouldn't be surprised if JJJ's wife gets it and then we'll have to hold yet another election to replace her alder-person seat.
Just take the money out of the pensions and up the health care co pays to pay for it.
What the hell the taxpayers are rolling in dough. Property tax increases, water bill, parking, CTA fares up 55% along with increased license and city sticker cost. Oh and then the hidden tax on our electric bills as the public voted to allow the city to negotiate our electricity rates for us and to keep the change.
Hey BTW, did you know that Spain, because of their financial situation is offering residency status to anyone that buys property of around $200K. You can get a good size mansion for that price. Cost of living is a lot lower there. I'm just sayin' Hola amigo!
Welp, maybe the clouted ones can plea deal. Resign and forfeit your pensions and we won't criminally charge you.
The same Feds that pulled Blago"s wire ? Those "legit" people?
No "code of silence" its a " do not touch" political list.
This story goes way beyond two PO's fiing a lawsuit. There is much more in the pipe.
The amount of corruption that occurred during the Cline years is literally incredible.
You heard it hear first, there are some massive scandals that are coming forward.
Former boss is Cmdr. Joe Curtin. Cousin of Sgt Jim Higgins from Public Transportation Section. Both related to Ald. Ed Burke. That is how Higgins' ex-wife became a judge. She's not that intelligent. Couldn't get husband outta the bar but smart enough to get a seat on the BENCH! Yea know Joe passed but Burke still around. That's how Sgt. Higgins became Lt. Higgins.
SCC said...
Welcome to all our visitors from Lighthouse for the Blind!
If you could just point to the instance where we say we want Federal oversight, we'd be so very appreciative. Thanks.
11/21/2012 07:26:00 AM
I point to your original post where you write "hello federal oversight... You've been a long time coming"
Oh, you're right, you didn't say you wanted it. So sorry.
LHFB out.
I am a civilian. Many years ago, a young man moved into our N Side apt building. Lots of "interesting" mid-day foot traffic followed.
So one day, I hear POUND POUND POUND on the young man's door: "Give me the $25 you owe me, m*****f*****."
Naive person that I was, I exercised my 1st & 2nd amendment rights, went into the stairwell and told the thug, "I'm calling the police."
Answer: "I *am* the police." Indeed, 911 confirmed officer was on the scene: another officer had driven him there.
So shaking drug dealers down has been going on in CPD for awhile. Few of you would dream of such a thing, but protecting the criminals in your midst is dereliction of your duty.
Anonymous said...
I bet the boss is john minogue
11/21/2012 12:33:00 PM
I doubt that very much. He is not at all the "tell all" kind of guy. He's been retired since before Hillard left. He likes baseball too much to involve himself in this bullshit. He is out. Why let himself get dragged back in?
Most of your guys at the airport are useless. Guy rolls a car over on Irving, this big mouthed know it all tries to pawn it off on us, then I see one of your guys today and ask how it went and find out the useless asshole didn't DUI the drunk guy. Last time we help you guys, thanks for trick bagging us after we put him in custody when he ran from the scene. Useless asshat. Come speeding through our town again. Courtesy is dead.
Westside Inside Do Nothing said...
Those with any kind of time on the job always knew there existed multiple levels of discipline. The clouted, blessed and those of particular bloodlines always seem to land on their feet and move up the CPD foodchain. Same goes for the sword swallowers, human pin cushions and the occasional Gold Star secretary that decides to let the bun deposited by her married supervisor bake completely. Meanwhile, the nobodies are made sacrificial lambs, oftentimes led to career, character and financial slaughter without due process, all to perpetuate the charade and illusion that the CPD can police it's own.
Perfectly worded and described. The people at callback are perfect examples of the "nobody's" you describe. I also hope this brings the house of cards crashing down. Very well said again Westside.
could it be Charlie Williams
McCaresAlot is Flipping out today. Expect some major and possibly long over due, changes at IAD before the end of the year.
My previous thoughts on who this person was are off base. This anonymous person was the C/O of General Investigations up until he left for a District, very disgruntled with Juan Rivera. The voice may be changed, but the cadence is his.
Could also be a Sergeant that just retired from General. In either case, neither of them would have any information about an investigation going on in Confidential, and if they did, that means someone there was talking to them.
Housecleaning, 5th floor please...
A pure fucking joke is what this is all about!!!! Nothng will and going to happened.
Anonymous said...
chief Rivera and commander Klimas need to go.This has been said for the longest time also the confidential section needs to be skaken up.There should be no p,o s.. sgt and above should be conducting investigations,,
11/21/2012 07:27:00 AM
Juan is a nice person, but has been invoved in more than a few coverups of corruption within the CPD.
Anonymous said...
OH its a commander now its the truth!
If he seen the pictures guess what he just had more rule violations than you can shake a stick at!
But you must ask yourself why would a former clouted one become a person who has a soul and wants to speak out.
Just take a look at who just became a Superintendent at street and sanitation (garbage guys).
The clouted are given primo spots to keep their mouths shut and it has nothing to do with there amazing skills of killing crime stats...
Dont think those white shirts you hardly see are your friends they are climbing a ladder/
11/21/2012 08:12:00 AM
It is not Charlie Williams. Charlie spent 16 years in IAD but never had command there.
Charlie definitely has intimate knowledge of coverups and internal corruption.
Charlie replaced Ernie Brown as the Public Housing Commander during the Reign of Terror Robbery Saga at Ida B Wells.
It is not hard to see how Charlie Williams ended up back on the public trough at Streets and San.
Will Charlie remain complicit when the rest of the scandals become public knowledge?
This will be devastating!
Phil Cine's tenure destroyed the CPD!
Anonymous said...
in case none of you know but we have been under "federal oversight" since 2008. Its not official because daley did everything in his power to make sure there was not federal oversight... the last person wanting the feds monitoring a city department was daley. After SOS, abatte and the punk drunk coppers at Jefferson park etc the feds went to daley and gave him his options... do what we say and avoid official oversight from the feds or have the feds step in. That is why we got Jody Weis. Then Jody got rid of almost the entire "old school" command staff to cut the head off of the old way of doing things. He then replaced them with younger unknowns and timid yes men... after he did that he then replaced many of them which created more of a gap of the old way of doing things which in turn changed the department to be more straight. Then McCarthy got put in and not someone from the inside. Its not a coincidence that we have not had a supt promoted from within the dept... This is a plan that is set into place from the feds. If you dont think that the feds are not overseeing things unofficially then ive got a bridge to sell you. Be careful what you do... They are here and they are aware of whats going on...Its just not official. They did the same thing to Los Angeles before official federal oversight happened. They had the feds pulling the strings for about 3 years before they officially stepped in.
11/21/2012 11:30:00 AM
Jody did rid the department of a majority of the "crooked" bosses but many remained. Jody failed to reform IAD and to clean house there.
Don't expect Garry to even know what to do.
It will take a concerted effort by the Federal government to cleanup the mess that is now the CPD.
Anonymous said...
Welp, maybe the clouted ones can plea deal. Resign and forfeit your pensions and we won't criminally charge you.
11/21/2012 02:56:00 PM
Thats the problem, none of these clouted ones ever see a prison cell.
Filling up Oxford, Terre Haute or Rochester with these fools would send a message that corruption is not tolerated.
Hey SCC, I worked the fireman's funeral today and snapped a photo of one of our city's scumbag revenue (plate reading) vans dispatched to all the immediate streets near the church running firemen's plates as they mourned. It fucking sickened me....is there a way to e-mail the pic?
Anonymous said...
Lets see if they go after Kirby&company for the Finigan mess
too.
11/21/2012 09:17:00 AM
If Finigan had a brain he would be diming all of the thieving scum out on the CPD. The Feds might even cut him loose under Witness Protection.
Anonymous said...
I'm advocating federal oversight. I'm tired of the deep rooted corruption, the clout, ALL OF IT. This Dept is ruined. It's DONE. I went from being proud to tell people im CPD to being ashamed. Tear this bitch down and start fresh. Its the only real way to mulligan. You CAN have oversight without losing all of your contractual rights....
11/21/2012 02:41:00 PM
FYI..you have been under federal oversight for the last three years, where do you suppose mother hen weis came from? Also why shanks skated..
Anonymous said...
I bet the boss is john minogue
11/21/2012 12:33:00 PM
Nope!
Karen Rowan possibly?
Bring that Federal Oversight on!
The legitimate working coppers are tired of the corrupt, clouted crooks runining our job!
Random Ideas to improve the Command structure of the C.P.D. and in the process, slow down corruption within the ranks;
Give legitimate promotional exams,
Promote ONLY those people that score the highest on the exam in rank order,
Take politics OUT of the examination process,
Give exams on a Regular Basis,
Hold promoted Bosses accountable.
I know, that's Crazy Talk.
Famous last words...
BRING IT ON !
Dont know what good the feds would do. On the TV segment, when the reporter asked for a comment from the CPD, they were told it was a joint investigation with the FBI and the FBI decided no further charges or co defendants would be involved So much for the feds
So one might ask if the IAD or CPD was covering up, the FBI had to go along with it
Anonymous said...
I bet the boss is john minogue
11/21/2012 12:33:00 PM
Actually it was his daughter singer/cop Kylie Minogue.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. This is going to get very large and have severe ramifications.
I wonder if it has anything to do with the stuff at Area 1. Detectives are being watched leave early after 5-6 hours days by the media. Someone pointed them in the right direction.
11/21/2012 10:46:00 AM
They read this blog. There have been lots of comments here about it, so all they had to do was follow the big neon arrow.
Now if they'd only follow the cuties leaving hq early.
The CPD can ony be made legitimate through the criminal prosecution of those responsibe for imparting and fostering a culture of corruption.
Mayor Rahm Emmanuel has not taken any meaningful action against Deb Kirby.
This is the signal from Mayor Rahm Emmanuel that it is business as usual on the Chicago Police Department.
The corruption is sanctioned from the top to the bottom in Chicago.
IAD shoud be staffed with Sergeants with investigative experience.
These Investigator Sergeants should be of high moral character, unblemished record, high intelligence, credit worthy, 30+yoa, Bacheor's degree or higher, minimum of six years of career service.
Applications should be forwarded to the Office of Superintendent for consideration. Polygraph testing will be conducted upon selection and prior to final interview for position.
Anonymous said...
What is the problem going on in area 1?
11/21/2012 12:39:00 PM
A lack of supervision has resulted in many detectives disappearing.
Poof
Anonymous said...
SCC, are you quite sure you want that so called beloved Federal oversight? The Feds will first off suspend all or part of all labor contracts. Then they will run things as they see fit. Grievance? Hah! Be careful what you ask for.
11/21/2012 07:20:00 AM
Hey Suckass,
It's here! Kiss your Clouted coverups, ducks and merit promotions Good Bye!
Remember the first on the train are taken care of by the G. Those who lie, deny and fight usually spend several years regretting it.
Anonymous said...
Federal oversight would be much better than the current status quo of unbridled corruption, coverup, Clout, nepotism and humiliation.
The two-tier system of discipline must end!
The blatant criminals within our ranks must be purged!
11/21/2012 12:05:00 PM
Hey Hero,
What are you doing to rectify it? Didn't think so.
This is every member of the departments problem. Don't wait or expect others to fix it. Pickup the phone, send an e-mail or drop an anonymous letter to the proper authorities.
Is the Sergeant who threatens both male and female prostitutes for sexual favors still working in 017.
The one that falsified an arrest report when the prostitue refused him free service.
The one who drove her from North/Cicero to 017 and used a 17th District address of address?
The own who has HUGE CLOUT and is tied to Monterrey???
Just asking, we haven't forgotten.
Time to jump back on the medical and do a JJJ.
Can anyone imagine the list of retirements/resignations if IAD was legitimate?
11/21/2012 07:20:00 AM
I am in agreement, asking the Feds. May back fire for a lot of good cops. Yeah, some investigation is needed. But the feds will come in and could suspend all or parts of all labor contracts. Which would hurt all the good honest cops that are working! This guy is right, be careful what you ask for!
11/21/2012 10:41:00 AM
Wow, yeah that guy is right. The Feds could come in and lockup my Clout. That would suck going back to mids with only 5 years on I could end up in 006.
Anonymous said...
blackballed? they work in fugitive apprehension?
11/21/2012 07:39:00 AM
Yes,blackballed. You know when the bosses tell everyone to call you an FBI rat and to stay away from you for telling the truth.
Bring back J-Fed! Better than Garry and much more legitimate than anyone we have.
Hold your head high Shannon. What you did took courage and honor.
Unlike what IAD and the bosses did by calling you FBI rats, harrassing and destroying your career.
Stand tall! There are many honest officers who salute you.
Anonymous said...
alot of clout BS going on in the fire dept too!
11/21/2012 08:26:00 AM
It can ony go on if its tolerated and allowed.
Document everything, pictures, dates, times, locations and forward to the appropriate authorities. It maybe the media if it is not criminal.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
Send your corrupt boss on a vacation!
Club Fed
Inquiring minds want to know why MJT 's long serving gang team has been quietly disbanded, one guy 30 pending, one dumped to 007, one soon on disability, and the others spread around, seems fishy. Who is going with him and why?
Where is the Better Government Association?
Ask the Forest Illinois P.D burb copper. All of their 6 sworn had an oversight on their department.
Two of the copper' there were caught red handed in Aunt Bea' kitchen eating her homemade cornbeef pie.
SCC, you need a laugh-break after all the crying here today.
He WAS a C/O (Commanding Officer) and the department knows who he is, sit back and watch.
10:49 AM is correct...
Weems
Finnegan-SOS
Jefferson Tap
Abbate
Watts-Housing South
These and other incidents led to DOJ-Civil Rights Division telling Daley that CPD, under Cline, was leading them to initiating action in Federal Court to place them under receivership. Daley agreed to hiring a FBI agent as Superintendent and that is how we got stuck with Weis.
A news agency could FOIA these communications from DOJ and it would make front page news.
This failure on the part of OPS and Lori Lightfoot should lead to her not being qualified to the new United States Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois.
The blatant criminals within our ranks must be purged!
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how about the less than blatant ones?
you start a purge and any one who ever did anything out of line can get caught up in it. it may be the only way to clean things up though.
get rid of a few hundred really bad coppers and another few hundred who are not quite so bad but need to go and another few hundred who really only needed a slap on the wrist.
maybe just announce a sort of amnesty. you retire in the next 90 days and we won't prosecute for run of the mill bad conduct. how many takers would there be?
Oh come on with these 2. Why not bring up the armed robbery they committed in 017 that was COVERED UP by IAD and Ernie Brown!
I think it's EB as he was the one who changed an off duty accident to on duty.
for: Does being put under Federal oversight mean we would also reap the benefits of better vision, dental and healthcare plans?
What'd be killer would be getting that awesome Fed pension, as I don't believe I've heard a peep about diminishing anything on their end. Would we fall under that umbrella also? Talk about The Law of Unintended Consequences!
All kidding aside, I'd prefer to do without Fed oversight, but I AM a big fan of watching a handful of the "Untouchables" go down in grand fashion.
Those with any kind of time on the job always knew there existed multiple levels of discipline. The clouted, blessed and those of particular bloodlines always seem to land on their feet and move up the CPD foodchain. Same goes for the sword swallowers, human pin cushions and the occasional Gold Star secretary that decides to let the bun deposited by her married supervisor bake completely. Meanwhile, the nobodies are made sacrificial lambs, oftentimes led to career, character and financial slaughter without due process, all to perpetuate the charade and illusion that the CPD can police it's own.
If I were the gambling type, I'd lay a handsome wager on some expedited retirements in the very near future. Bossholes thay may have been waffling over the big decision will have magically acquired newfound clarity in their choice to pull the pin. Funny how shit like this works.
Pull up a chair and gather 'round. This is gonna be epic.
No way do you want a Fed pension compared to CPDs existing plan. 35%, thats it.
Two things that would go a long way to making our pension safe:
1. 50 alderman reduced to 10
2. Limit City liability to 500,000 like in Texas (see law below)
It makes my tax paying blood boil everytime I read about another law suit aganist the city. 800.000 dollars for Abbate swiping at some bartender? WTF rise up Chicago
TEXAS LAW:
Civil Practice and Remedies Code
Chapter 101 Tort Claims Section 101.023
Limitation on Amount of Liability
Sec. 101.023. LIMITATION ON AMOUNT OF LIABILITY. (a) Liability of the state government under this chapter is limited to money damages in a maximum amount of $250,000 for each person and $500,000 for each single occurrence for bodily injury or death and $100,000 for each single occurrence for injury to or destruction of property.
(b) Except as provided by Subsection (c), liability of a unit of local government under this chapter is limited to money damages in a maximum amount of $100,000 for each person and $300,000 for each single occurrence for bodily injury or death and $100,000 for each single occurrence for injury to or destruction of property.
(c) Liability of a municipality under this chapter is limited to money damages in a maximum amount of $250,000 for each person and $500,000 for each single occurrence for bodily injury or death and $100,000 for each single occurrence for injury to or destruction of property.
(d) Except as provided by Section 78.001, liability of an emergency service organization under this chapter is limited to money damages in a maximum amount of $100,000 for each person and $300,000 for each single occurrence for bodily injury or death and $100,000 for each single occurrence for injury to or destruction of property.
For Informational Purposes only.
The XXX watch LT in 011 recently announced that he will be using the caboodle program and watching his troops to see if they are in one location for what he deems "too long".
I am sure if he was able to download Caboodle on his home PC he would watch the cars on his RDO's at the same time he is playing on Facebook and looking at what his PO's are posting on their facebook account.
These are the kind of Bosses the department has promoted.
This is why us blue shirts have very little respect for Lts and above.
Nothing is going on in area 1. Just a few miserable fucks who were loyal to Patty are now upset that their world has been turned upside down. It's funny listening to them bitch all day. Supposedly they notified iad and the media that they aren't getting what they want.
I know who it issssssss.......... Does not wear a gold star. The media does not know or care to know our ranks like we do.
Area 1 on WGN on Thanksgiving.
Minogue is not a stoolie.
Code of Silence has nothing to do with it. The City, the Department shoots itself in the foot because first a clouted, political connected person gets away with it, then everyone attempts the same thing.
Look at the Sgt. from SWAT who just went on permanent disability. No investigation, no CR# issued. He walked around for the past two years saying that he was retiring, yet he didn't have the time nor a job to find. His bullshit, show-up laughable college degrees could find a job. So, what does he do? He injures himself picking up equipment - that's right, picking something up. His injury is so bad, he needs permanent disability. It's not possible. But nobody raises a question, no one investigates the clear, gross violation of tax payers $$, why? He was a merit sergeant (thanks Deputy Chief W.G. for putting him in. He was a joke, now he is a thief on the city's dollars.
IAD and the medical section is a joke. I pray for the Federal oversight.
Nothing to see here. There will be a few changes and then back to the same old business.Maybe if the mayor brought in an outside agency to do an audit of the sustained cr's on the unclouted and match them up with the not sustained and looked at the complaints against the Sgt's and above something may happen in 9.5's transparent world but I say forget it. It won't happen.
Chicago desperately needs tort limits like those in Texas. Who can afford these sky high awards to these so called victims who are neither psysically or mentally unstable as a result of assaults verbal or minor physical contact in nature. Just because the city is found at fault how does robbing taxpayers for these civil suits serve the citizens of Chicago? The last few years of taxpaying home owners like me fleeing to homes in other states to escape this money pit doesn't seem to wake up the politicans...we don't have anymore to give away!
Ot- does anyone know how to enter the new amount on the health hub website for 2013? On furlo and enrollment ends Friday the offices are closed. Thanks
Wasn't Hector R a commander of IAD?
I guess its time all of the folks who have been screwed becasue they didnt have any clout and were sacrificial lambs.
Hey McJerseyshore : clean house on IAD and some of your exempts that maybe fibbed under oath about abbate.
That Klimas guy is a total douche bag. Former FBI and brought over by weisel. Why was he not sent packing? Beat it dbag! Waste of paycheck!
You want only sgts and above to do conf? Yeah ok so the likes of the jerk who screwed over Plewa can have free reign? I pray not...
As an agent I have seen his bs and conjured up cases.
how about t. rowan using his position as a commander to get a under cover identity ( illinois drivers license) for a copper who lost his license for dui?
Tied to burke and other alderthieves
Big command changes coming on Friday, 30 November.
Hey Emanuel go fuck yourself you Obama loving POS! Hey IAD, you too. Yeah, try to trace my IP address you fucks because it's to an undisclosed in Costa Rica. Shit I will even tell you clowns the town: Esterillos. Yeah, those of you who know me know who this is. Yeah, try to get the IP logs from down here Ha!
You clowns at IAD are fucking idiots and I hope Spalding burns all you assholes down there. So tired of the clout BS on this job. so glad I have two and half years to go. Yea, run your programs and try to figure out who is on furlough in CR. Don't look too hard you idiots.
Anonymous said...
I wonder if it has anything to do with the stuff at Area 1. Detectives are being watched leave early after 5-6 hours days by the media. Someone pointed them in the right direction.
11/21/2012 10:46:00 AM
They read this blog. There have been lots of comments here about it, so all they had to do was follow the big neon arrow.
Now if they'd only follow the cuties leaving hq early.
11/21/2012 05:32:00 PM
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Too bad they aren't watching the comings and goings of the Academy staff.
Very few work a tour of duty.
Then there are those that just never show up for days in a row!
Someone should file a FoI and pull the video tapes to see whose there and whose not. Then file for the A & A's.
It would be eye opening.
Until recently I held the rank of Patrolman for Life. Now I am Retired Patrolman for Life.
So very grateful to not know nothing. I am done with it all and got out unscathed.
Stay save brothers & sisters. There is much life after CPD.
Its JPUD's buddy Peter Brust...
@11/21/2012 07:38:00 PM
If you did a better job of policing your own, rather than robbing the tax payer blind with ANOVs, the city wouldnt have a liability problem, and the tax payers would be on your side.
-not a cop
Anonymous said...
Bring back J-Fed! Better than Garry and much more legitimate than anyone we have.
11/21/2012 06:15:00 PM
Jody, it's demeaning for you to come here and beg.
Anonymous said...
Karen Rowan possibly?
11/21/2012 04:34:00 PM
Not likely.
They raised your retirement age from 50 to age 55 and none of you cops have not realized it is because of corruption? Corrupt politicians, businesses, criminals and cops run decent tax payers to other states leaving poor folks criminals and no money. When are you people going to wake up and smell the coffee? Stop the corruption and live clean decent lives and you will get what you deserve.
The only problem at Area 1 is a handful of medical abusers.
yeah, its ernie brown and hes playing defense before a real story is made of it. Hes saying that he knew the real truth and is talking to the media because the OTHER evil people put a stop to the investigation. He is still hiding his face so when it all comes down he can say look, that guy doing the whistleblowing to the media was me but I feared the same retribution those officers experienced. Ernie brown was the sponser of this sgt for years. Ernie took good good care of this guy and knew what was up. Ernie knows that this is a bad one and knows that he is responsible for keeping these guys out on the street.... what do you want to bet that if the feds follow the money trail far enough back and one of these mopes is talking that it comes back to EB??? Gonna say its pretty good. These two officers who blew the whistle on this sgt and his team were not the first two... several other officers from the 002nd district and outside units had run ins with this sgt and beefed about him saying he was dirty... it was ignored and those officers were also disciplined... when did that happen you ask??? on EBs watch... Nice try ernie, but your miserable attempt to get the spot light on you just magnified it... Us who know are not fooled by your choir boy story.
Lets see if they go after Kirby&company for the Finigan mess
too.
11/21/2012 09:17:00 AM
If Finigan had a brain he would be diming all of the thieving scum out on the CPD. The Feds might even cut him loose under Witness Protection.
your a little too late for that.. the statute of limitaions for many of the things that happened during the SOS hayday have lapsed. The only thing that is still on the table when it would come to charging is a civil rights violation which for a boss does not apply and RICO... which does not apply either.. even if there was a possibility for rico among cops and bosses its too late and would be almost impossible to get. Well not almost impossible, but IMPOSSIBLE. would never and cant happen with the cluster f*ck of a case that the whole thing turned into. I know several feds who have talked to me about the SOS thing and they didnt even want to take the case on after they started peeling away the layers of it.. they said the case got weaker and weaker by the day so they ended up settling for crap. So in a nutshell no... they feds wouldnt do a thing for it because they cant anymore and wouldnt be able to effectively prove anything anymore.
Most of your guys at the airport are useless. Guy rolls a car over on Irving, this big mouthed know it all tries to pawn it off on us, then I see one of your guys today and ask how it went and find out the useless asshole didn't DUI the drunk guy. Last time we help you guys, thanks for trick bagging us after we put him in custody when he ran from the scene. Useless asshat. Come speeding through our town again. Courtesy is dead.
11/21/2012 03:54:00 PM
yawwwnnnn, stop your crying and go bust up your high school drinking party. You wanna play the "professional courtesy is dead" game... hahahah, fine with me. One of your bosses will be extremely unhappy with you pal. I have a very very good story hanging over his head which I showed him a HUGE professional courtesty... His wife, children and the cook county states attorney would LOVE to hear this whopper.... not to mention all of the shiller cops who we have helped out being sh*tfaced pulling out their mickey mouse badges to get out of trouble and when we do help them out they still continue to act like suburban 19 year old frat boys.. im not talking about speeding, dui or any of that crap.. im talking about shit that would land them in jail and most likely a good suspension or fired from the job... ok kid, ive been doin this sh*t for 27 years. You wanna fire the first shot go right ahead, because when you do, every single shiller cop that gets fuc*ed with by me will be told its because of you... all breaks are dead because of you and all your empty threats... and it will start with your boss and then down to the two shiller cops who live on my beat who love to park the car with tinted windows on the street in the wrong direction... try me hair gel suburban warrior!
Bring j-Fed back today. I agree. He was legit and did more for this PD then anyone else.
Toby Burton. It's gotta be him.
Wow. A lot of whining on here with no facts to back them up. Due process is given to officers as well as the scumbags. I am aware that some officers are scumbags too, but you guys make the whole Department sound bad. It's just not so.
I only have a few years to go. I come to work on time and I leave when I am done. I have seen officers I don't like and had to straighten a few out, but nothing that comes close to the sniveling here.
I don't envy others spot. I don't keep my head in the sand, but I don't pretend to know what their circumstances are. I still love the job and sleep well.
Hasta later Rivera........you were a real boss in 025. Guess chiefs salary broke u down. You let all the BS continue on your watch.....shame on U!
Schiller Park Copper said...
Most of your guys at the airport are useless. Guy rolls a car over on Irving, this big mouthed know it all tries to pawn it off on us, then I see one of your guys today and ask how it went and find out the useless asshole didn't DUI the drunk guy. Last time we help you guys, thanks for trick bagging us after we put him in custody when he ran from the scene. Useless asshat. Come speeding through our town again. Courtesy is dead.
11/21/2012 03:54:00 PM
Hay schiller park , relax francis. first sorry if you didn't get the memo that if you don't have rank - you have no expectation of the outcome of any police action. as for the incident in question not all of us in the big windy city do not do dui's a select few really know the paper work and as you now know. don't let this incident sour you on windy city cops though, because once you go down that path of screw them karma has a bad way of coming around and besides were all in this together the best way to handle it is with professionalism and courtesy and if you happen to have another incounter with a ( PO KNOW NOTHING -DO NOTHING ) realize that you are a little better at your profession than he or she is !
thankx for the back up and aim for the cheeto glands
westside former fto
Federal oversight doesn't mean federal employee. Jesus. Educate yourself a little.
How can the feds reopen cases when all the files have disappeared ? Just go back a few years. Jimmy Carroll and the kiss of death.
Um, to 07:38:00 - That law is only in the case of a state court tort action, most of the suits are federal civil rights ( Section 1983 ) actions, and limits don't apply. And besides, in a 1983 case, the attorneys run up the billable hours regardless of damages awarded - it's not a contingency fee basis for the attorneys' fees.
Anonymous said...
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
11/21/2012 06:23:00 PM
That keeps getting repeated here, too late. Too many good men have done nothing for way too long. Evil has triumphed. Evil - 1. Good - 0
Doing good includes slapping the next goof copper you see doing something really stupid. Or at least calling that person out loudly and publicly in roll call. Who does that? No one, that's who.
It is not always "them" who are responsible for cleaning up the CPD, it is up to us. Don't always turn your head. Peer pressure is non-existent here.
OK, that being said, are you ready for some football? Get that turkey in the oven. God bless you all, stay safe.
Hey 10:46am
Get your facts straight about Area Central! They cover 40% of the city, as busy as any area and are swamped with work.I'm sure you have done nothing but whine and complain your whole career! If you know when Area Central is you should stop by!
Oversight from the same people who brought you the Operation Fast And Furious" coverup, the Benghazi Coverup, investigation of massive voter fraud, etc.......yeah, they'll really straighten the dept out. The guys higher up will always back each other publicly, regardless of the organization involved.
"in case none of you know but we have been under "federal oversight" since 2008".
The party has just begun.....Folks you all screwed the Pooch.
We Got an outsider who runs IPRA and CPD. Parking lot parties, watch parties, Dugans, Ira's, Grand Central and yes water in the blue plastic cup please, days are over. FEDS will take over. And you know what, I welcome them!!!!Look at the crack pots we got.......
There are so many great bosses within CPD but these crack pots won't recognize them.
It will be like driving a 100 miles an hour into a brick wall, look at the mass exodus, Folks put your seat belts on, it will be a fast, wild ride.....Oh by the way all you good cops continue doing what your doing, do your job well, you won't be affected. its the medical role abusers, racist cops (on both sides of the fence). The whiners, do nothings, the pimps and thieves on CPD, (1.5% that can't be controlled due to incompetent supervisors) That need to worry......
Just do your F%$^#& JOB......
Former boss is Cmdr. Joe Curtin. Cousin of Sgt Jim Higgins from Public Transportation Section. Both related to Ald. Ed Burke. That is how Higgins' ex-wife became a judge. She's not that intelligent. Couldn't get husband outta the bar but smart enough to get a seat on the BENCH! Yea know Joe passed but Burke still around. That's how Sgt. Higgins became Lt. Higgins.
11/21/2012 03:44:00 PM
Joe Curtin is dead you fucking 'tard.
I'm going to blow the whistle on Daley and political corruption.
s/Jody Weis
Ghetto Street Cop Extraordinaire
The ISP isn't any better.
Two things that would go a long way to making our pension safe:
1. 50 alderman reduced to 10
2. Limit City liability to 500,000 like in Texas (see law below)
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Like Abate, most lawsuits against the police are under federal laws in federal court. Changing state law would have no effect.
Anonymous said...
Until recently I held the rank of Patrolman for Life. Now I am Retired Patrolman for Life.
So very grateful to not know nothing. I am done with it all and got out unscathed.
Stay save brothers & sisters. There is much life after CPD.
11/21/2012 11:15:00 PM
You sound very brave,
Anonymous said...
Ot- does anyone know how to enter the new amount on the health hub website for 2013? On furlo and enrollment ends Friday the offices are closed. Thanks
11/21/2012 10:19:00 PM
Changes to your FSA have to be made through the city's benefits website. Health Hub only administers your account after you set it up through the city.
Hey leave the academy alone , sworn officers at homan square do not swipe in and out and the office sworn police officers work short hours . maybe 6 hours on a long day . Who ever is in charge at homan square should be demoted.
Former boss is Cmdr. Joe Curtin. Cousin of Sgt Jim Higgins from Public Transportation Section. Both related to Ald. Ed Burke. That is how Higgins' ex-wife became a judge. She's not that intelligent. Couldn't get husband outta the bar but smart enough to get a seat on the BENCH! Yea know Joe passed but Burke still around. That's how Sgt. Higgins became Lt. Higgins.
11/21/2012 03:44:00 PM
ReallY? Judge Higgins is better than 70% of the other nit-wits on the bench. AND she was elected... so there goes your theory.
To the person asking on how to enroll for Payflex for the upcoming year, you now have to create an account with the city's benefits web page. You no longer sign up via the payflex website. Check the Fop site for instructions:
http://www.chicagofop.org/flexible-spending-account-enrollment/
Federal oversight will lead to:
-Lots of training that you will hate. Topics will focus on developing reasonable suspicion and probable cause; how to conduct street stops in the acceptable federal fashion; documenting clear PC when conducting searches of vehicles on the street; how to write a complete report. In other words, you will follow the letter of the law and policy (old and new that they write) and be held accountable. You will document every move you make. You will be watched and if you disobey or just forget to do something, you will be punished. Your contract will be ineffective in protecting you from discipline to the extent that you now enjoy. You still have protections, but remember that the standard is preponderance of evidence, and that is a low standard to hold your feet to the fire.
-Did I mention paperwork??? I did and it needs to be restated. Buy extra pens and enhance your typing skills. You don't know what details are until the feds dictate policy.
-Integrity checks: get ready to be tested often.
-supervisors: you'll have it especially hard because you will be held to every word in the policy, old if they keep it and all the changes that come with oversight. You will be forced to nit-pick and you will be hated and hate yourselves. If you get caught off-base (even slightly) you will suffer more severe punishment.
-expect punishments for transgressions to increase. There will be more and longer time handed out. Expect to take time for administrative infractions like failing to document a street stop or not reporting vehicle damage you discovered at the beginning of your tour.
In other words, they will try to mold the department into what they envision a department should look like and how it should function.
Good luck.
Anonymous said...
Schiller Park Copper said...
Most of your guys at the airport are useless. Guy rolls a car over on Irving, this big mouthed know it all tries to pawn it off on us, then I see one of your guys today and ask how it went and find out the useless asshole didn't DUI the drunk guy. Last time we help you guys, thanks for trick bagging us after we put him in custody when he ran from the scene. Useless asshat. Come speeding through our town again. Courtesy is dead.
11/21/2012 03:54:00 PM
Let me get this right, you either on viewed the accident or saw it just after it happened, in any case you were there soon enough to engage in a foot chase with the driver right? You catch the driver and arrest him right? The way I see it is you caught him and cuffed him while working and you wanted him DUI, you should have cleaned him. You are certified by the state of Illinois to make this arrest not Schiller park.
All that is needed for evil to thrive is for good men to do nothing.
11/21; 6:15 PM and 11/22; 3:43 AM:
The LYING COWARD is known as "J-FLED", NOT "J-Fed". Cowardice and leadership are mutually exclusive.
Search "coward" and "Jody Weis" on both GOOGLE and YouTube.
In reponse to Heath Hub question: You have to go to cityofchicagobenefits web site to re enroll in the flexible spending. You CANNOT do it through Health hub. On the city benefits page it will ask what the ANNUAL amount you want deducted is, then it will calculate how much per check will be deducted. Must do by Friday, so don't delay
Limit City liability to 500,000 like in Texas (see law below)
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when was the last time anyone got an award out of an IL state court for police misconduct? just does not happen and won't.
in any case, the recent lawsuits are federal and the state has no say in limiting the amount of the awards.
besides, how would you see this if a city worker was speeding down the road and crashed into your wife and daughter and put them both in a nursing home for life at $100 grand a year. the 500 grand runs out pretty fast.
This guy should watch himself, A few years ago, a civillian boss at aviation "fell" off a ladder several times after he bagan asking quations about the money at O'Hare airport
The Daley people where not too happy with him
Big command changes coming on Friday, 30 November.
11/21/2012 10:46:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey Emanuel go fuck yourself you Obama loving POS! Hey IAD, you too. Yeah, try to trace my IP address you fucks because it's to an undisclosed in Costa Rica. Shit I will even tell you clowns the town: Esterillos. Yeah, those of you who know me know who this is. Yeah, try to get the IP logs from down here Ha!
You clowns at IAD are fucking idiots and I hope Spalding burns all you assholes down there. So tired of the clout BS on this job. so glad I have two and half years to go. Yea, run your programs and try to figure out who is on furlough in CR. Don't look too hard you idiots.
11/21/2012 10:58:00 PM
Your sense of self-worth is HIGHLY over confident. No one gives a shit about you or your IP address,moron.
Anonymous said...
Dont know what good the feds would do. On the TV segment, when the reporter asked for a comment from the CPD, they were told it was a joint investigation with the FBI and the FBI decided no further charges or co defendants would be involved So much for the feds
So one might ask if the IAD or CPD was covering up, the FBI had to go along with it
11/21/2012 04:52:00 PM
Exactly. There was no cover up. It will be easy to show. Dan, stop posting about how brave Shannon is on here. Ask her why she wasn't charged with armed robbery, on duty for stealing a dog. Ask her how clout helped her out of that mess. So it's ok when it works in her favor, right? This thing is a joke and I hope when you lose this case, the Feds make you pay for the City's defense.
To reup your FSA you have to go to the cities website. I think it is cityofchicagobenefits.org or .com. They ask if you want to change anything then it moves onto the FSA.
IAD and the medical section is a joke. I pray for the Federal oversight.
11/21/2012 09:45:00 PM
IAD and the Medical Section have absolutely nothing to do with this guy getting Duty Disability. NOTHING. It goes through the Pension Board and if the Board's Doctor agrees, he gets it. If you have information to the contrary, STEP UP, MAN UP, and testify to the Pension Board why this person should not get the 75% out of our depleted fund!!!!
But like everyone else, you won't do that. You'll whine on here about how IAD doesn't do anything when it's not their job to handle that, especially if YOU don't let them know about it.
Anonymous said...
You want only sgts and above to do conf? Yeah ok so the likes of the jerk who screwed over Plewa can have free reign? I pray not...
As an agent I have seen his bs and conjured up cases.
11/21/2012 10:31:00 PM
You are an Agent? An agent of what? Anyone who believes Plewa is 100% innocent is only listening to his side of the story, not the facts. He'll retire out of call back, weighing 400pounds, and STILL be guilty. Now go take your little Agent kit you bought at Toys R Us and cry about how he got screwed, while a TRULY innocent woman AND MOTHER spent weeks in County because of his lies and cover ups.
You clowns at IAD are fucking idiots and I hope Spalding burns all you assholes down there. So tired of the clout BS on this job. so glad I have two and half years to go. Yea, run your programs and try to figure out who is on furlough in CR. Don't look too hard you idiots.
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Lighten up Francis.
Anonymous said...
a lot of clout BS going on in the fire dept too!
Been that way for decades
If the Feds don't step in and cleanup CPD its going to get much worse.
After this much publicity and no punishment?
This just emboldens the clout and the bosses to take things that much farther.
All the legit coppers will retire or leave for greener pastures.
Nothin new here , rumor is scandal dealing with narcotics in 15 , austin district was shut down early because it went up in cpd ranks and most involved were blacks
WTFAYTA! So now a whole district was shut down? when? on what planet do you live? Stop trying to incite bullshit...."and most involved were blacks" and this is significant why? ASSHOLE!
I can't see Rahm letting his political aspirations become destroyed by the ongoing corruption. Rahm will clean house and let the indictments fly.
Then Rahm can campaign upon being a reformer and cleaning up a rogue department.
Lets face it, the majority of voters hate us and will cheer.
It's a win, win for Rahm.
Never let a crisis go to waste!
Former boss is Cmdr. Joe Curtin. Cousin of Sgt Jim Higgins from Public Transportation Section. Both related to Ald. Ed Burke. That is how Higgins' ex-wife became a judge. She's not that intelligent. Couldn't get husband outta the bar but smart enough to get a seat on the BENCH! Yea know Joe passed but Burke still around. That's how Sgt. Higgins became Lt. Higgins.
nice..."The Emerald Way" who's surprised?
I never thought I'd say this but but J Fed was the best thing for this department. Go ahead make your comments. But it's true.
Is it just me or has Glamourous Garry disappeared from the media spotlight?
This guy used to be a fixture on the daily news, now nothing.
Did Rahm put a leash on him or is he afraid to confront all the scandals?
My previous thoughts on who this person was are off base. This anonymous person was the C/O of General Investigations up until he left for a District, very disgruntled with Juan Rivera. The voice may be changed, but the cadence is his.
D.N. Great Call!
There will definitely be some interesting conversations around the turkey today in some households.
And you thought the Stone Park and Willow Springs PD's were corrupt.
Anonymous said...
Schiller Park Copper said...
Most of your guys at the airport are useless. Guy rolls a car over on Irving, this big mouthed know it all tries to pawn it off on us, then I see one of your guys today and ask how it went and find out the useless asshole didn't DUI the drunk guy. Last time we help you guys, thanks for trick bagging us after we put him in custody when he ran from the scene. Useless asshat. Come speeding through our town again. Courtesy is dead.
11/21/2012 03:54:00 PM
Hay schiller park , relax francis. first sorry if you didn't get the memo that if you don't have rank - you have no expectation of the outcome of any police action. as for the incident in question not all of us in the big windy city do not do dui's a select few really know the paper work and as you now know. don't let this incident sour you on windy city cops though, because once you go down that path of screw them karma has a bad way of coming around and besides were all in this together the best way to handle it is with professionalism and courtesy and if you happen to have another incounter with a ( PO KNOW NOTHING -DO NOTHING ) realize that you are a little better at your profession than he or she is !
thankx for the back up and aim for the cheeto glands
westside former fto
11/22/2012 06:30:00 AM
I agree with Schiller Park. On other departments DUI is not optional, it is part of your job. On CPD it is "oh, I don't do DUI".
Police elsewhere do the whole gamut of police work, arrest, fingerprint, photo, booking, the whole thing. Get caught blowing off a DUI elsewhere and look out. Here police work is optional, if officer is competent and if officer wants to and if officer is not busy on court day.
Schiller Park, next time have your boss call for copy of paperwork on DUI so your officer can go to court. Listen to the sputter and watch the tap dancing. And if it is a cop, forget it. Not a chance of enforcement but listen to them cry for an end to the corruption.
Anonymous said...
Lets see if they go after Kirby&company for the Finigan mess
too.
11/21/2012 09:17:00 AM
If Finigan had a brain he would be diming all of the thieving scum out on the CPD. The Feds might even cut him loose under Witness Protection.
your a little too late for that.. the statute of limitaions for many of the things that happened during the SOS hayday have lapsed. The only thing that is still on the table when it would come to charging is a civil rights violation which for a boss does not apply and RICO... which does not apply either.. even if there was a possibility for rico among cops and bosses its too late and would be almost impossible to get. Well not almost impossible, but IMPOSSIBLE. would never and cant happen with the cluster f*ck of a case that the whole thing turned into. I know several feds who have talked to me about the SOS thing and they didnt even want to take the case on after they started peeling away the layers of it.. they said the case got weaker and weaker by the day so they ended up settling for crap. So in a nutshell no... they feds wouldnt do a thing for it because they cant anymore and wouldnt be able to effectively prove anything anymore.
11/22/2012 02:47:00 AM
No statute of limitations on Official Misconduct, it is still a felony.
The Code of Silence is the Democrat Party, not the Police. They and they alone decide what gets covered up and who gets protection and who is left hung out to dry.
Schiller Park Copper said...
Most of your guys at the airport are useless. Guy rolls a car over on Irving, this big mouthed know it all tries to pawn it off on us, then I see one of your guys today and ask how it went and find out the useless asshole didn't DUI the drunk guy. Last time we help you guys, thanks for trick bagging us after we put him in custody when he ran from the scene. Useless asshat. Come speeding through our town again. Courtesy is dead.
11/21/2012 03:54:00 PM
Hey, Schiller Park. Please allow me to explain what happened there. The big mouthed asshole is most likely politically connected to the democratic machine. He pawned that off on you because he has no fucking idea HOW to do a DUI. He covered up his ignorance with his bullshit democrat attitude. The rest of us here are stuck with him and his ilk.
I would no more screw you over for the assholes you have on your department than you should screw the MAJORITY of us over for this prick that we ALL despise.
I hope that helps.
Hey Schiller Park,
I read you post and was pissed that you got an asshole CPD guy. Then I read it again and realized that you are an asshole yourself. You want to screw any CPD that comes your way because of that? You little sniveling tool. I don't drive through your little postage stamp sized town to begin with, so I won't need any courtesy from your punk ass. But if I hear of any of your little suburbanites coming through our town?
No, I won't be like you. They still get a play. You see, you're a little bitch. That doesn't make everyone from you little department a bitch too. That's where we differ. You're too fucking stupid to get that.
Now go fetch your shine box, you little worm. I'm done with you here.
I never thought I'd say this but but J Fed was the best thing for this department. Go ahead make your comments. But it's true.
11/22/2012 02:24:00 PM
Jody, go pet one of the cats and stay off the blog.
Anonymous said...
You want only sgts and above to do conf? Yeah ok so the likes of the jerk who screwed over Plewa can have free reign? I pray not...
As an agent I have seen his bs and conjured up cases.
11/21/2012 10:31:00 PM
You are an Agent? An agent of what? Anyone who believes Plewa is 100% innocent is only listening to his side of the story, not the facts. He'll retire out of call back, weighing 400pounds, and STILL be guilty. Now go take your little Agent kit you bought at Toys R Us and cry about how he got screwed, while a TRULY innocent woman AND MOTHER spent weeks in County because of his lies and cover ups.
11/22/2012 12:29:00 PM
Police Agent, tough guy. Go read your contract and learn.
Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, another supe got all wound up about officers conducting investigations in IAD. It was decided there should be a position 'above' officer, so Police Agent was created.
Anonymous said...
Ot- does anyone know how to enter the new amount on the health hub website for 2013? On furlo and enrollment ends Friday the offices are closed. Thanks
11/21/2012 10:19:00 PM
The FOP website walks you through the process. Read the home page news feed and you will see the walk through regarding Flexible Spending Account.
"Anonymous said...
You want only sgts and above to do conf? Yeah ok so the likes of the jerk who screwed over Plewa can have free reign? I pray not...
As an agent I have seen his bs and conjured up cases."
Hey asshat,
If you see his "conjured" up cases than you need to come forward and call him out and expose these cases to the public. Otherwise you are also the problem!
Plewa? The city paid 375K in a settlement because he was innocent? Nice example idiot.
Anonymous said...
Hey leave the academy alone , sworn officers at homan square do not swipe in and out and the office sworn police officers work short hours . maybe 6 hours on a long day . Who ever is in charge at homan square should be demoted.
11/22/2012 10:34:00 AM
Please start with axing the person who cuts and pastes from the DOC bulletins and backs up the email system with her "intel."
hey schiller park- not a good idea to come on this blog and threaten a department that mostly surrounds your town. You,your wife,your kids, your mom or dad, your friends all use Chicago streets at one time or another. SO go ahead and strike first, we have plenty of back-up, unlike you. If you feel you need to act, sign your name next time so we can then acknowledge you correctly. Game on !
No statute of limitations on Official Misconduct, it is still a felony.
wrong. Official Misconduct on the federal level is only 10 years. If it involves rico then it is 30 year limit. so yes, most of the stuff has passed its time.
Anonymous said...
Schiller Park Copper said...
Most of your guys at the airport are useless. Guy rolls a car over on Irving, this big mouthed know it all tries to pawn it off on us, then I see one of your guys today and ask how it went and find out the useless asshole didn't DUI the drunk guy. Last time we help you guys, thanks for trick bagging us after we put him in custody when he ran from the scene. Useless asshat. Come speeding through our town again. Courtesy is dead.
11/21/2012 03:54:00 PM
Hey, Schiller Park. Please allow me to explain what happened there. The big mouthed asshole is most likely politically connected to the democratic machine. He pawned that off on you because he has no fucking idea HOW to do a DUI. He covered up his ignorance with his bullshit democrat attitude. The rest of us here are stuck with him and his ilk.
I would no more screw you over for the assholes you have on your department than you should screw the MAJORITY of us over for this prick that we ALL despise.
I hope that helps.
11/22/2012 06:00:00 PM
Not sure what really happened Shiller Park, but to go after all cops because of it is the wrong thing to do. Most of society hates us so we need to stand together. Part of the problem with O'hare is CPD headquarters won't put any younger guys there that will work and it's mostly staffed by old timers on their way out. It usually takes 27 years on the job to get the bid spot there if they even allow any bid spots. Sorry for the hassle but don't hate.
Anonymous said...
yeah, its ernie brown and hes playing defense before a real story is made of it. Hes saying that he knew the real truth and is talking to the media because the OTHER evil people put a stop to the investigation. He is still hiding his face so when it all comes down he can say look, that guy doing the whistleblowing to the media was me but I feared the same retribution those officers experienced. Ernie brown was the sponser of this sgt for years. Ernie took good good care of this guy and knew what was up. Ernie knows that this is a bad one and knows that he is responsible for keeping these guys out on the street.... what do you want to bet that if the feds follow the money trail far enough back and one of these mopes is talking that it comes back to EB??? Gonna say its pretty good. These two officers who blew the whistle on this sgt and his team were not the first two... several other officers from the 002nd district and outside units had run ins with this sgt and beefed about him saying he was dirty... it was ignored and those officers were also disciplined... when did that happen you ask??? on EBs watch... Nice try ernie, but your miserable attempt to get the spot light on you just magnified it... Us who know are not fooled by your choir boy story.
11/22/2012 02:38:00 AM
You know what, you are right on the money. A few years ago EB was on the iad and fed co-investigative spotlight and supposedly the feds had to put him and others on hold due to the Blago case taking precedence. Been away from those sources now for a while and forgot all about this til reading your post just now. One can only hope that EB will be taken away in cuffs from his Darien chief of police office.
Anonymous said...
Former boss is Cmdr. Joe Curtin. Cousin of Sgt Jim Higgins from Public Transportation Section. Both related to Ald. Ed Burke. That is how Higgins' ex-wife became a judge. She's not that intelligent. Couldn't get husband outta the bar but smart enough to get a seat on the BENCH! Yea know Joe passed but Burke still around. That's how Sgt. Higgins became Lt. Higgins.
11/21/2012 03:44:00 PM
ReallY? Judge Higgins is better than 70% of the other nit-wits on the bench. AND she was elected... so there goes your theory.
11/22/2012 10:41:00 AM
Rosemary Higgins is an Associate Judge, not elected. Re - appointed to a second 4 year term in July of 2011. So there goes your theory. Do your homework
Cops don't screw with other cops, period. If you have a desire to take out your frustrations on other cops, and this goes for both of you, you should go into another line of work- you are both tools. If your going to wear the star, be professional; otherwise you just make us all look bad. Have a great day.
Higgins wife is an outstanding judge. GOD bless whoever used any clout to get that woman her judgeship. You can't be a cop that goes to court because cops are her biggest fans.
Wasn't Hector R a commander of IAD?
11/21/2012 10:20:00 PM
Yes. He was a Commander in IAD. That fucking punkin-headed, blue-eyed, bottom-feeding lawyer is just the type. I hope he sings loud and long.
Could this be Sgt. Cannizzo and Lt. Naleway...
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McCaresAlot is Flipping out today. Expect some major and possibly long over due, changes at IAD before the end of the year.
My previous thoughts on who this person was are off base. This anonymous person was the C/O of General Investigations up until he left for a District, very disgruntled with Juan Rivera. The voice may be changed, but the cadence is his.
Could also be a Sergeant that just retired from General. In either case, neither of them would have any information about an investigation going on in Confidential, and if they did, that means someone there was talking to them.
Housecleaning, 5th floor please...
So should he be indicted for not performing his job as commander? If he had knowledge and didn't come forward?
you know there as usual ALOT of bitching and moaning about corruption,clout and unfairness in the upper ranks....so instead of just bitching on a keyboard call the police board, put your name on the list to speak at the public monthly meeting, and then call McCarthy or Wiesenger out in person and name names in a public forum. and before the bashing starts...yes I have put my money where my mouth is and will continue to but a few single voices matter little to these arrogant people so mass numbers get attention.
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