Um....What?
Is this bullshit or the new incarnation of CAPS?
- Dear SCC,
worked 1st watch last nigh and heard form a Sgt in 008, that McNaughton the commander who is currently chasing his deputy chief's star off our backs has cut a deal with (sic) "SWAP". Supposedly SWAP got a 3 million dollar grant and are using it to force sgts, lt's and capt's for now with P.O.'s being forced into this nonsense come January. The cops will HAVE TO meet with a stake holder in the community one on one and discuss problems and solutions for them. Going to be in a neutral location. The simulation had these liberals asking the cops all kind of personal questions, kids, families, sports, neighborhoods, marriage; and the cops were responding. Now we are going to share with some east end citizen I use the term loosely, on department time 99.
Is he fucking nuts! Since when does liberal community activist fall into our job description. Again this is being FORCED upon us, not a voluntary thing. So here you are going to meet with Joe citizen, and u are sideswiped in Dept vehicle, or fall off your chair while while in deep conversation with thugs mama, or ambushed cuz your 99. With all the IOD claims being denied and this really not being "duty related" Where's the GO, or SO, now you're screwed. What the hell happened to CAPS, the fed money is still rolling in. It's their job to make nice with these idiots. What else do they do? Oh yeah, they make sandwiches for the seniors and proctor. Bingo events. Who's gonna be stuck next, Detective division , because they truly are the best talkers. Gonna check with the FOP and see what this clown is up to. This guy ought to go back to la la land in 016. Geez, what happened to real bosses?
Looks like it was typed while a little under the influence, but you get the gist of it. Along with this supposed "sector policing" that might happen in 012, it seems like we're on the verge of some major policing-type experiments next year.
Labels: rumors
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
40 Comments:
As it was explained, this is not meant to be a "complaint session" by the community member and we, the police, should not be conducting an interrogation.
But if the community member can't, or shouldn't, be bringing up problems - then why don't I just hang up my uniform now? That's my purpose, right? Combating crime and disorder? I'm not going to be talking about my family, where I live or my personal life - because it's just that -PERSONAL. I don't need some supposed "responsible" community member who has a friend or relative who has a score to settle, use that information against me or god forbid, my family.
You want to talk about neighborhood problems? Fine. It sure as hell won't take 30-45 min though. And I would love to know who is going to make themselves available to meet at 0300hrs.
It just might be a chance to tell the citizens what a fuck-up Rahm and McCarthy has been all along.
Just tell them the truth.
No Bullshit, cars are racked up with over 100,000 miles. No manpower, give them an accurate count of downed cars. Why is crime way up even though they are being lied to by Rahm's stats.
Advise them how to get their Concealed Carry Card. Have the forms to hand out.
Tell the Truth. What a concept!
Great idea Dave.
Think of it this way, look at the success we've had using the saul alinsky community organizing model...
maybe bill ayers and his wife will be our next superintendent and 1st deputy.
its a new world. Up is down, down is up.
While McNaughton was a lt. in 010, he was clueless.
You mean the coppers are not paid by the people and don't work for the people. The cops should not be responsible to the people (the ones that pay them) but to someone else?
Nothing will fix policing in Chicago.
The balance of power has shifted to the criminal.
The general public is weak minded and lacks the moral courage to allow effective criminal control.
You may be able to force me to go to something like this but you can't make me participate.
And, I certainly am NOT answereing any personal questions these mutts ask.
Who in their right mind would do that?
What's the FLOP say about this?
I burned my toast while reading this. It made me think "How appropriate!"
LOL (sadly).
Keep playing the city's game. Keep working special, keep working VRI, and keep going above and beyond and the city and department will continue to treat us like assholes and force us into this BS.
Lie your asses off. I have ten kids, my wife was raped and killed by a group of gang bangers, I live in Austin, well you get the picture.
I was born and raised in Chicago. I left in 1969 when I joined the army. I applied to CPD while still in the service, but wasn't considered because I wasn't then a 'resident'. Anyway I finished my enlistment, earned a degree and joined a large PD in the Southwest. CPD did me a great favor by not considering me. Be careful my brothers and sisters.
019 now has a 2-person homeless car that responds to all calls regarding the homeless and tries to "socially" intervene in their problems without an arrest. And midnights, the busiest time, is bare to the bones. This is the 3rd or 4th "special" car on days now.
Goodbye CHICAGO POLICE.
The last REAL bosses left in the late 80's that's fucking fact like it or not.
I would love to meet with all the cutie 019 cops in my neighborhood and find out everything about them.
Where do I sign up?
I think I am getting the vapors. I have to sit down.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
In some parts of the country members from the "Community" are part of the boards at oral interviews for promotion! Let's not lose sight of the basic fact on the side of the marked cars; WE Serve. One of the main problems with government especially in Cook County is the fact that we are here to serve as is all government. The public even those who are entitled, ignorant and racist, as they are in many parts of the City are not accountable, WE ARE.
YUP all these changes and Willie is still going to kill Willie.
All I can say is watch out for that bar of soap. Slip
>>>While McNaughton was a lt. in 010, he was clueless.
9/28/2013 01:23:00 AM<<<
When this thing goes sour he may be back.
Do you really want me to tell these "citizens" what I have to do to put my kids through parochial school so they don't have to mix with gangbangers.
Do you want me to tell them the truth about the "poverty pimps".
What the heck, they won't be able to put cars down on this anyway.
You are employees. The Chicago Police Department is your employer. Go do your job and quit complaing about it.
Is he fucking nuts! Since when does liberal community activist fall into our job description. Again this is being FORCED upon us, not a voluntary thing. So here you are going to meet with Joe citizen, and u are sideswiped in Dept ......
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Didn't know that following orders and doing your job was voluntary... U get paid to do a job. Sometimes your job sucks. Many places have programs that are terrible and make nonsense but people must do it because it is their job.... Your not being forced to do anything, you are expected to do your job and perform... But not coppers, they expect everything to be handed to them. Shut up and do your job. I can't wait to retire to get away from the people on this job.. Do nothing, lazy know it alls
what's wrong with it? you get paid to sit around and drink coffee while yakking instead of being out on the street.
To all the people who are saying that the CPD are employees whose job it is to serve the people of the city:
Agreed, BUT:
They are not social workers. They are not doctors or nurses. They are POLICE OFFICERS. It is not their job to..."discuss problems and solutions for them." That is the duty of parents who are present...to raise children to adulthood who know how to solve problems through ways other than violence...to teach their children problem-solving skills...to teach their children how to grow up into responsible adults. Sadly, that is lacking in the violence-ridden communities. Yes, I'm saying it. And it has been going on for years.
It is not the business of the citizens of the city of Chicago if police officers are married or single, if they have children or don't, where they live, what kind of car they drive, what their favorite food is, etc. THAT HAS NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH POLICE WORK.
Until these violence-ridden communities have members that stand up and say "You know, it is our fault that our children are behaving this way...that our young adults are behaving this way...that they don't have problem-solving skills because they've been taught to look to others for handouts and not themselves for self-sufficiency....", there will be no one to help them. You can't solve from without what those within aren't willing to confront.
-- Just a citizen
He was worthless as a Sgt in 017.
OT, I didn't realize felons could get liquor licenses. Let alone the City backing them.
Poverty and profits: City gives felon six-figure grant to open liquor store
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-promo-austin-liquor-store-20130927,0,2407751.story
You mean the coppers are not paid by the people and don't work for the people. The cops should not be responsible to the people (the ones that pay them) but to someone else?
shut up liberal citizen, we ARE NOT social workers.
Anonymous A Taxpayer's Observation said...
You are employees. The Chicago Police Department is your employer. Go do your job and quit complaing about it.
9/28/2013 12:44:00 PM
Ridiculous. Doing this job has nothing to do with me being forced to share personal anecdotes about my life.
To: Didn't know that following orders and doing your job was voluntary... U get paid to do a job. Sometimes your job sucks. Many places have programs that are terrible and make nonsense but people must do it because it is their job.... Your not being forced to do anything, you are expected to do your job and perform... But not coppers, they expect everything to be handed to them. Shut up and do your job. I can't wait to retire to get away from the people on this job.. Do nothing, lazy know it alls
From: Blue Shirt
Hey "boss," GFY!!! You're probably one who loves to violet people's constitutional rights. I'm sure you give those under your command illegal orders, too! Ex. "Go get me contact cards!" What you forget is that a blue shirt with enough time on the job can see thru your bullshit. Many are on survival mode and going to this shit on their RDO is not conducive to our survival. Just ask the officer who was struck in the head while blindsided. You and your ilk disgust many of us veterans for drinking that castrating Kool-aid. You're powerless and you know it! Good ridance when you pull your butt plug and leave!!
Anonymous said...
You mean the coppers are not paid by the people and don't work for the people. The cops should not be responsible to the people (the ones that pay them) but to someone else?
9/28/2013 01:30:00 AM
We sure are, just as the employees of any company on the NYSE or NASDQ are responsible to the share holders. But I don't have to tell them one iota of personal information except for, my name is officer ________.
Didn't know that following orders and doing your job was voluntary... U get paid to do a job. Sometimes your job sucks. Many places have programs that are terrible and make nonsense but people must do it because it is their job.... Your not being forced to do anything, you are expected to do your job and perform... But not coppers, they expect everything to be handed to them. Shut up and do your job. I can't wait to retire to get away from the people on this job.. Do nothing, lazy know it alls
9/28/2013 01:20:00 PM
This from a guy who most likely is in a unit, and will never have to do anything remotely like this.
A Taxpayer's Observation said...
You are employees. The Chicago Police Department is your employer. Go do your job and quit complaing about it.
9/28/2013 12:44:00 PM
Get off the POLICE blog asshole! Punk bitch!
019 now has a 2-person homeless car that responds to all calls regarding the homeless and tries to "socially" intervene in their problems without an arrest. And midnights, the busiest time, is bare to the bones. This is the 3rd or 4th "special" car on days now.
9/28/2013 07:58:00 AM
I honestly believe EV's days are numbered. I have no proof of that, just a gut feeling. Robberies thru the roof, shootings in uptown, weekend shit shows on Clark St., tact team drama, community pressure (see Crime in Wrigleyville and Boystown blog), internal drama with tact teams and white shirts (not between the two). He's a nice man, but I think he's in over his head.
Anonymous said...
Lie your asses off. I have ten kids, my wife was raped and killed by a group of gang bangers, I live in Austin, well you get the picture.
9/28/2013 07:39:00 AM
Ha! I was just doing a check at this seedy hotel and there's a young chick who works the desk and kinda likes me some. She asks me if I had kids and I can can see their cute little faces and I think to myself I can't deny the existence of my little angels...so I said yes. Then she asked how many...I told her 5, 6, 7 or 8something like that i.e. none of your business stranger lady.
When I was in school, I tried to tell my dad how good he had it as a cop and that despite how bad it seems, it's a lot better than he realized. Then I became one. You joe q. citizens don't how much crap we put up with...being suspended without pay for ridiculous reasons that wouldn't fly other places, people hating you for no reason, lying on ou constantly, bosses selling you up the river, working on your off days constantly. My 3 yr old sees me put on my shoes to take the trash out and asks me if I'm going to work and sometimes tells me he doesn't want me to go. Yeah it comes with the territory but most of you have not experienced the territory and had you your words would be less peppered with what we should do and how we should feel. I love being a cop but the way we're treated and the time we miss from family is pretty bad at times.
HUmmm Well since we are all taxpayers and work for the City, who says we can't talk to each other? I will tell my partner what the problems are and they will tell my theirs. See!!! We have talked to a member of the community. :) !! F'em I will never tell about my personal life it is NONE of their BUSINESS where I live, how many kids I have etc.
Thank God Almighty that I retired last October!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
019 now has a 2-person homeless car that responds to all calls regarding the homeless and tries to "socially" intervene in their problems without an arrest. And midnights, the busiest time, is bare to the bones. This is the 3rd or 4th "special" car on days now.
9/28/2013 07:58:00 AM
I honestly believe EV's days are numbered. I have no proof of that, just a gut feeling. Robberies thru the roof, shootings in uptown, weekend shit shows on Clark St., tact team drama, community pressure (see Crime in Wrigleyville and Boystown blog), internal drama with tact teams and white shirts (not between the two). He's a nice man, but I think he's in over his head.
9/29/2013 12:02:00 AM
That homeless car ought to chase "Jesus" around Irving and Damen area, (HIGHAM, Thomas, M2) who is responsible for many of the burglary to autos around there. He did three years for that, got out about a year ago.
That car could clear up many of the thefts/burglary to auto if they dismounted, dressed like schmoos and followed Higham around and got a number of cases on him. Next time he might get 6 years.
He got 3 years last time and did all three years, that is what a wonderful individual he is even in jail. No one will take the time to research where he sleeps, used to flop in a rental truck in back of Irving/Rockwell, also bank atm locations. He breaks into cars for the change or if he sees a briefcase or anything he might sell. He's quick, he's been doing it a long time. Also his brother Merrick. Arrest those two and clear up hundreds of thefts a month.
How do I know? He told me.
When I was in school, I tried to tell my dad how good he had it as a cop and that despite how bad it seems, it's a lot better than he realized. Then I became one. You joe q. citizens don't how much crap we put up with...being suspended without pay for ridiculous reasons that wouldn't fly other places, people hating you for no reason, lying on ou constantly, bosses selling you up the river, working on your off days constantly. My 3 yr old sees me put on my shoes to take the trash out and asks me if I'm going to work and sometimes tells me he doesn't want me to go. Yeah it comes with the territory but most of you have not experienced the territory and had you your words would be less peppered with what we should do and how we should feel. I love being a cop but the way we're treated and the time we miss from family is pretty bad at times.
Doesn't sound like you love being a cop. All you are doing is complaining. Your 3 year should know nothing about your life as a cop and the only way he knows anything about the job is from what you tell him. No wonder he doesn't want you to go to work. You should be telling him you love your job and enjoy going to work, The 3 year old doesn't need any drama about your job in his life.
And dont give the bs he heard about it, from who, the other 3 year olds that sit around and discuss their fathers job
Didn't know that following orders and doing your job was voluntary... U get paid to do a job. Sometimes your job sucks. Many places have programs that are terrible and make nonsense but people must do it because it is their job.... Your not being forced to do anything, you are expected to do your job and perform... But not coppers, they expect everything to be handed to them. Shut up and do your job. I can't wait to retire to get away from the people on this job.. Do nothing, lazy know it alls
9/28/2013 01:20:00 PM
This from a guy who most likely is in a unit, and will never have to do anything remotely like this.
9/28/2013 08:12:00 PM
wrong again stroke boy. I work a beat car.. bt 735 every day and I have no problem at all working a beat car. Cmon over some time putz and we will talk and I will show you how to do your job and not be a lazy F*ck&r! Too many crybabies on this job.
Having been present at these initial meetings at the 8th district I can re-assure those officers who have concerns regarding this "community relations" initiative that NO ONE is being forced into something he/she does not want to do. Comm. McNaughton has been open to ways on how community leaders and residents on the Eastern end of the 8th can maintain and/or establish a more trusting relationship with our law enforcement community members. Afterall we work and live together. Those of us who have an investment in our neighborhood consider this a great opportunity to connect with our civil servants I personally have to depend upon when I am confronted with matters that demand law enforcement intervention. This initiative is not about probing into personal matters but rather to establish common ground and create an atmosphere of dialogue. I have two nephews in law enforcement and several close friends who are with the Dept. I value what they do, who they are, what they are about and what they represent. I would hope that it would be reciprocal toward me.
I am happy to welcome any of our officers to my residence to talk and share any concerns regarding this "ask."
Respectfully,
Fr. Tony Pizzo, osa
Pastor - St. Rita Parish
Dean - Vicariate V A
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