Best Sgt Exam Observation
This is genius:
- 132.1513 is the atomic weight of the clout atom.
We literally couldn't stop laughing at that one.
Can someone explain why the exam was based on a cumulative score of 132.1513?
Does the mayor have something against whole numbers since he is only able to count up to 9.5 on his fingers?
Can someone explain why the exam was based on a cumulative score of 132.1513?
Does the mayor have something against whole numbers since he is only able to count up to 9.5 on his fingers?
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
89 Comments:
Simple they probably threw questions/a percentage of questions away to satisfy the cry babies on this job that think it should be done their way instead of the written way.
I would like to find out my raw score, before all the "weighting" or juking or splitting of the clout atom.
Yawn, really? It's over guys. Just shut up and take your scores, roll the dice. That's all you can do.
Grading to the fourth decimal point means no ties. So therefore seniority paid no part on your rank.
I would like to see the top 300ers' scores from the first part.
AHEM!
Mind if we take a crack at this one SCC?
>Cracks Knuckles Like A Concert Pianist<
Elementary algebra...
The constant... That very plausible REAL number which is known only by and zealously guarded by Rahm and those he has has assembled in his voodoo kitchen of fuckery.
>Door swings open. Hot fire, smoke and the stench of brimstone<
Imagine if you will, the constant being the pivot upon which all that is fuckery is balanced upon.
The variables... Those also zealously guarded numbers that are beshat through and through with bullshit by design.
Rahm has ordered the vigorous rubbing of these bullshit variables against the plausible constant which will in the end, yield a bullshit product.
132.1513
The atomic weight of clout.
>Stands back... Admires work. Takes a sip of a fine and ancient cask strength bourbon.<
"Just another one of those too old, wild-assed, big, dumb, hateful, mean, heavy-fisted, bitterly clinging, gun-loving, conservative, "angry because it isn't 1960 anymore" dangerous free thinking Chicago Cops!"
Each answer wasn't worth 1 point. Some questions were worth more and they made the points to 4 decimal places to avoid massive ties. The total of all the best answers is that number.
Probably a formula to consider test score plus years on as a PO and date of birth. Stop coming up with conspiracy theories already. The actual test was straight from the general orders. Now if anyone had a heads up on the material is a different story. I for one studied my butt off and will make it with zero clout. For the new guys on the job that are reading this, it not all bullshit, you can make it legit. Study like your future depends on it and you will do fine. Control the present and the future will fall into place.
I know three people who have a boss for a relative and our in the top 100. I don't know anyone in the top 100 without any clout.
Dam... I got a 132.1512.
No COLA for recently retired police officers but ...
Poor families use 'supervouchers' to rent in city's priciest buildings
By Alby Gallun July 26, 2014
The high-rise at 500 N. Lake Shore Drive is the second-most expensive in the city, with rents for a one-bedroom apartment approaching $3,000 a month, well beyond the reach of most Chicago residents.
But that's not too much for the Chicago Housing Authority, which has used federal tax dollars to pick up most of the tab for four lucky residents in the year-old building, with its sweeping views of Lake Michigan, a concierge and a dog-grooming center.
http://www.chicagobusiness.com
It is simple. You have a raw score. You decide on the "proper" racial makeup of perhaps the top 500. You have a demographic spread of "correct" answers and their racial correlation. You adjust the "weight" of each answer so as to establish a "racially unbiased" result. Simple. This process does NOT favor the best candidates. (Before anyone starts decrying my statements as "racist" or "sour grapes", I am Hispanic and in the first class whenever made. I also STUDIED MY ASS OFF. No clout. No LAPA. Just grit.)
As to the whole number thing....we humans like manageable numbers. 1,321,001 is a little big.
To all who studied hard regardless of outcome: Well done! You are a credit to all of us.
Not everyone who does well has clout.
Time to FOIA the results.
Too many numbers. My head hurts.
That was ome funny shit. Brillant!
The State FOP Conference ended yesterday. There were more retirees representing Lodge 7 then active officers. They elected a retiree to represent us at the State level. The retirees pay $40 per year to belong to Fop. The union pays for their rooms, flights or mileage, meals and a stipend for drinking. We as active officers basically pay for these retirees vacations at these conferences. They bring back nothing to the active members because they no longer work for the department. Many of these guys have been gone for over a decade. What do they know about what our problems are? I was embarrassed to be a member of Lodge 7.
Do merit people have to take both parts of the test now? If true, next to their name on the promotion list should be their sponsor, their score on the test and how many previous merit bumps given to them. Not that they would care, getting promoted without being qualified makes they laugh all the way to the bank.
I'm glad I am not the only one who found that to be strange.
FUCK THIS PLACE!
I'm ready to retire and get the hell out of Chicago forever!
DA Pelon
The City weighted questions based on the demographics of who got them right (actually scaling the question with variable points, I.e., full credit, partial credit for some of the answer correct). Thus they are able to ensure the most racially, ethnically and gender diverse list. This was a City effort, not the test preparers, so don't blame them.
So, let's say very few female blacks got more than 3/5 of an answer correct (there is a possible 5 correct answers to a "list all the things you'd do-type question) they will weight the 3 things the F/B demo got consistently correct more than the 2 things the other groups got right. See, more "balanced" list. The scoring with 4 places to the right of the decimal point accounts for the sublties in scoring.
As a current supervisor that made it legit congrats to all that will do the same. To those of you that will make it because you kissed ass, did free electrical work for the commander ( yes that really happened), were the commamders drinking buddy. Or anyone else that didn't make it through hard work gfy.
Sounds like just another way to cheat the numbers. It's bad enough the test answers were "subjective" so they could play with test scores but I guess that wasn't enough to help some of these guys/girls with clout.
It's a shame that they can't do a fair clear cut test for the department. I'm sure a ton of people got screwed and a few lucked out with the grading system being like this. Add/subtract fractions of point values to get there people in. Now I know why there are so many officers angry with the city. They will never do a clear cut multiple choice test like New York, L.A., San Diego, Jacksonville etc. (every large dept in country)
OT. Was driving eastbound on the Eisenhower at around 8:15 pm last night and at around Kedzie with CPD on scene saw a black male laying face down in one of the lanes with blood pooling around his head but none the less moving and alive. Two empty gym shoes in the next lane to the left and vehicle with damages to front end off to the left.
Any info about this.
Just another good times in the city.
No sign of 9.5 at officer Rodriguez's wake
Ahhhhh, don't know don't care.. All I know is that by the time this list is ripped down I will be out of a god forsaken beat car and in a white short. No micro managing, no riding on jobs unless someone needs help and chatting with the guys about NON work topics. I'll come up and handle my responsibilities without whining about it and keep a quiet and low profile... Ahhh, goodbye beatcar.. Let's get promoting do I can get started
Federal judge overturns Washington DC gun ban! The libtards are shiting themselves over this ruling.
the cleverness and quick wit of my fellow officer never ceases to amaze me
what a joke, this test jacked from the beginning. Thank god I'm gonna be made merit, all those hand jobs finally paid off.
This is real life so I answered real life. This place sucks. This job sucks. This department sucks and IO solutions who made this test sucks. I don't wanna be sgt anyways.
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That's why you scored shitty. Answer the test questions from the orders and not real life because you'll have discretion in real life and per the test, everything has to be by the book.
After this test I don't think I could pass the fire entrance exam.
That reminds me of the merit list that came out. How disgusting to see all the names of current big bosses and former big bosses all made merit Sgt. and Lt. by big bossses who then go on to make other merit Lt.'s who become big bosses who then go one to make other merit Lt.'s who become big bosses and so on and so on. What a JOKE! All these P.O's who get huge pay raises and benefits through clout that the rest of us never had the chnce to without doing well on the tests. Everyone should go back and read the list again it's sick.
Let's move on!!!
7 months waiting for results?who and how graded?132 point?should of all been scantron!
I figure the reason for the odd number is this: let's say the fill in the blanks section is 40% of your total score and there are 275 bullet points, each worth an equal amount. 40 รท 275= .1454545... These numbers are made up as an example but the reason for the multiple decimal points is because each section is weighted as a certain percentage of your overall score.
Are comments jacked up again?
My guess, and it is just a guess.
The test was graded with partial credit based on the written answers requiring multiple answers. After the curve and questions being thrown out, some kind of mathematics formula was used to calculated the base.
Then it comes to selecting the best Qualified Candidate, one one thousandth of a percentile will make a world of difference. Ask any Exempt.
Doesn't matter how they score it.
The people THEY want promoted, will be promoted,
With a few legit, non clouted lucky ones sliding through.
Beyond ridiculous. C'mon city. Just give us a number .... As in 1. Some people had no clue how to read that shit. Others know you are 1-300 or nothing ..
How come all the strange ones always do so well????? Not the best cops but know their shit on paper ?!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
No sign of 9.5 at officer Rodriguez's wake
7/27/2014 11:05:00 AM
Maybe it was more politically beneficial to him to go to Shamiya's service.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I know three people who have a boss for a relative and our in the top 100. I don't know anyone in the top 100 without any clout.
7/27/2014 05:53:00 AM
You need to cultivate and exploit those relationships!
The entire promotional process is flawed. When do these guys get promoted? What about lt. exam? And then you stagnate for years, while clouted guys get the best spots w/o studying. Almost everyone of our command staff has had a bite of the apple so to speak. So not fair! Oh well, this is Chicago & it was never fair to begin with.
Anonymous said...
How come all the strange ones always do so well????? Not the best cops but know their shit on paper ?!!!
7/27/2014 03:18:00 PM
Because the test is from the general orders, not from the way things are really done.
time for a class of EVIDENCE TECHS!also more FTOS!!
Majority of command staff would be wearing a blue shirt if not for merit . It's the chiraque way , promote the political hacks .
Speaking of merit and clout: The Evan clan just took it in the shorts, both husband and wife. I say that speaks badly of their clout whom I believe to be Beavers, Stroger and company. The mayor of Country Club Hills was a strong supporter of the Stroger family. I have to admit Evans struck a wonderful pose in her campaign hat and four stars on her collar. I hope orange agrees with her.
Well said I don't know anybody !!!! This was my first promotional exam. I studied my butt off I set out to test the conspiracy theory. I'm under 100 on the list I still CAN'T believe it!! So yes for the young officers reading this know that solid dedications and discipline when preparing for a promotional exam is the key. Congratulations to everyone that scored well this experience was challenging but well worth it!!!!
Standardization as they called it in the 87-88 Sgt.s test. They took raw scores and if you were a male white a certain percentage was taken off. If you were only a male, a smaller percentage. IT was done in percentiles and the results reflected it.
As a current supervisor that made it legit congrats to all that will do the same. To those of you that will make it because you kissed ass, did free electrical work for the commander ( yes that really happened), were the commamders drinking buddy. Or anyone else that didn't make it through hard work gfy.
Hard work????? Electrical work IS hard work. Jerkoff
Retired for a few yrs now but worked in Unit 132 when the Felon Convicted Felon Acosta was Cmdr. Had all his "boys" in the Unit. Wasn't one of them so I was disliked from square one. Who gives a fuck-I didn't. Worked in That Unit which was an Umbrella Unit for School Visitation Section-useless-, Dare and Great Section-useless-Hate Crimes Section-useless- and Preventive Programs Section-TOTALLY USELESS. Was outside 35th having a smoke with one of Acosta's boys whom I knew. He asked me how I scored on the Sgt test. List was from 2002. I said my rank was 371. He said his was 1067 but I bet I make Sgt before you. Then here walks up fat head Malloy into the building. This fuck couldn't drop the square fast enough to say HI BOSS Do you need help carrying something? Merit Sgt Ti K good job. Piss poor fool in HS and still sucked dat thing. Since your retired hope you're pround of your asslicking self. Fuckin Fool!
OT. Was driving eastbound on the Eisenhower at around 8:15 pm last night and at around Kedzie with CPD on scene saw a black male laying face down in one of the lanes with blood pooling around his head but none the less moving and alive. Two empty gym shoes in the next lane to the left and vehicle with damages to front end off to the left.
Any info about this.
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He was WALKING on the expressway and gots killed.
Darwin calls the shot again!
7/27/2014 06:06:00 AM
Big Fing Deal.
Go into the public garage and write city sticker tickets if you are that butt hurt you didn't get one of the 4 vouchers.
3k a month is obscene for a 1 bedroom.
Especially when I am paying 800 for a 1 bdrm in Lincoln Park.
To 08:04 A.M. Freedom of Information Act Requests do not apply to exam results per several local and Fed Court rulings. We tried it years ago.
Anonymous said...
No sign of 9.5 at officer Rodriguez's wake
7/27/2014 11:05:00 AM
He was too busy kissing the ass of Shamiya Adams' family to try and gain votes from the African American population to gain votes. He could care less about us!
When is the class action lawsuit coming involving all the merit picks and their sponsors. How is it that some never even worked for the ones who put them in.
He was at Shamiya's wake in Forest Park, phony tears in his eyes. He has to hustle the Black vote because he is in deep SHIT with the black community. His next shot is to kiss Garry goodbye, which I can see in the next few weeks. Also present at the wake was that phony ass Rev. Jesse Jackson.
Anonymous said...
As a current supervisor that made it legit congrats to all that will do the same. To those of you that will make it because you kissed ass, did free electrical work for the commander ( yes that really happened), were the commamders drinking buddy. Or anyone else that didn't make it through hard work gfy.
Hard work????? Electrical work IS hard work. Jerkoff
7/27/2014 05:54:00 PM
I sure hope you are joking dick head. The point he made is not about the electrical work, but doing free shit for a boss to get a big raise. Ethics test question right? This shit happens all the time for many years on this joke of a department.
Once you accept your rank of Patrolman for Life everything gets a lot easier.
time for a class of EVIDENCE TECHS!also more FTOS!!
Stop already. They are fazing out those positions. Why in the hell do you think they are training the detectives to do it. As for fto's it's easier to stick them with Po for the day.
Then it comes to selecting the best Qualified Candidate, one one thousandth of a percentile will make a world of difference. Ask any Exempt.
7/27/2014 03:07:00 PM
Not quite -- 132.1513 goes out to 1 TEN thousandths of a point. You are off by a factor of 10.
Study and you will make. People who didn't score well don't know how to follow directions.
Well, I am impressed with the geniuses here! I am 5.something points behind a friend of mine and he is in the 500's. I am in the 1500's.
So before the rank you are on the list goes to your fucking head, 5 points is the difference only between being a sergeant and not being one. 5 points does not measure the difference between genius and imbecile.
Also, with the essays being graded by non-police personnel, who knows what they were given to measure the answers to the essays. Someone might have said the same thing as someone else but used the wrong word.
It is what it is, but these exams are not a measure of brilliance in all cases at all times. There is someone I know who is a completely flighty, yet, she scored in the top 100. How I would like to know, since she can't even write complete sentences!
Good luck to those who will make rank and just as good luck to those who will have to wait for another exam.
Please support the Mathews family and share this message below from Joey W Mathews. Also please attend the meeting to show your support.
Hey guys, kinda looking for a short notice quick favor. I'm a Cicero Firefighter now, but I am the son of a Chicago Police Officer that was killed in the line of duty on May 21, 1988. He was killed down the street from the house we lived in in the Hegewisch neighborhood. All of his killers have been released from prison, the last two were paroled on March 25, 1999. One of those men, Dean Chavez one of the more brutal of the five has since come back to the neighborhood and has been coaching youth baseball in the Hegewisch Babe Ruth League, we were able to have him removed on June 23 of this year by the President of National Babe Ruth Leagues (the local charter there is run by his friends). Dean has been claiming that we are violating his civil rights by having him removed from his position and has gone to the media (nothing has been printed or aired yet, but he is trying).
On July 30 at 7PM the Babe Ruth League is having an open meeting at Steve's Lounge in Hegewisch (13200 S Baltimore Ave, Chicago, IL 60633). Dean is planning on bringing family, friends, players, players parents (the few players/parents that DO support him) to the meeting to show support for him and why he deserves to be a role model to these young kids. My family is hoping to reach as many police and firefighters as would be able to make it to the meeting to show the Babe Ruth League that we will not stand for murderers mentoring young minds, I would also like to pressure the entire Babe Ruth Board to step down due to their gross negligence in keeping Dean in as a coach while having full knowledge of this man's history, especially in the neighborhood that he caused so much harm to. NIFG, if you can help me get the word out, that would be much appreciated. Thank you!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Please support the Mathews family and share this message below from Joey W Mathews. Also please attend the meeting to show your support.
Hey guys, kinda looking for a short notice quick favor. I'm a Cicero Firefighter now, but I am the son of a Chicago Police Officer that was killed in the line of duty on May 21, 1988. He was killed down the street from the house we lived in in the Hegewisch neighborhood. All of his killers have been released from prison, the last two were paroled on March 25, 1999. One of those men, Dean Chavez one of the more brutal of the five has since come back to the neighborhood and has been coaching youth baseball in the Hegewisch Babe Ruth League, we were able to have him removed on June 23 of this year by the President of National Babe Ruth Leagues (the local charter there is run by his friends). Dean has been claiming that we are violating his civil rights by having him removed from his position and has gone to the media (nothing has been printed or aired yet, but he is trying).
On July 30 at 7PM the Babe Ruth League is having an open meeting at Steve's Lounge in Hegewisch (13200 S Baltimore Ave, Chicago, IL 60633). Dean is planning on bringing family, friends, players, players parents (the few players/parents...
7/27/2014 10:39:00 PM
Well, you'll certainly get the press' attention now. Good luck, sir.
Anonymous 011 said...
OT. Was driving eastbound on the Eisenhower at around 8:15 pm last night and at around Kedzie with CPD on scene saw a black male laying face down in one of the lanes with blood pooling around his head but none the less moving and alive. Two empty gym shoes in the next lane to the left and vehicle with damages to front end off to the left.
Any info about this.
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He was WALKING on the expressway and gots killed.
Darwin calls the shot again!
7/27/2014 06:18:00 PM
Saw a couple of genius bicyclists northbound on the Edens from Foster Avenue a couple of weeks back. Thought for sure I'd read about one or both of them being hit by a truck.
Im going to make it off the list, no clout, no phone calls, only hard work. And to the person asking for part one scores, I got a 90...how did you do?
Please support the Mathews family and share this message below from Joey W Mathews. Also please attend the meeting to show your support.
Hey guys, kinda looking for a short notice quick favor. I'm a Cicero Firefighter now, but I am the son of a Chicago Police Officer that was killed in the line of duty on May 21, 1988. He was killed down the street from the house we lived in in the Hegewisch neighborhood. All of his killers have been released from prison, the last two were paroled on March 25, 1999. One of those men, Dean Chavez one of the more brutal of the five has since come back to the neighborhood and has been coaching youth baseball in the Hegewisch Babe Ruth League, we were able to have him removed on June 23 of this year by the President of National Babe Ruth Leagues (the local charter there is run by his friends). Dean has been claiming that we are violating his civil rights by having him removed from his position and has gone to the media (nothing has been printed or aired yet, but he is trying).
On July 30 at 7PM the Babe Ruth League is having an open meeting at Steve's Lounge in Hegewisch (13200 S Baltimore Ave, Chicago, IL 60633). Dean is planning on bringing family, friends, players, players parents (the few players/parents that DO support him) to the meeting to show support for him and why he deserves to be a role model to these young kids. My family is hoping to reach as many police and firefighters as would be able to make it to the meeting to show the Babe Ruth League that we will not stand for murderers mentoring young minds, I would also like to pressure the entire Babe Ruth Board to step down due to their gross negligence in keeping Dean in as a coach while having full knowledge of this man's history, especially in the neighborhood that he caused so much harm to. NIFG, if you can help me get the word out, that would be much appreciated. Thank you!
I remember when this happened. I went to school with Anne who was in second or third grade at the time. horrible and i couldn't believe these guys got such light time behind bars. Will try and make it out.
>>>Anonymous said...
Standardization as they called it in the 87-88 Sgt.s test. They took raw scores and if you were a male white a certain percentage was taken off. If you were only a male, a smaller percentage. IT was done in percentiles and the results reflected it.
7/27/2014 05:39:00 PM<<<
It was 85-87 and White Males were dropped 17% from Raw Score to Standardized on that test so there were two lists at the end. Held up in federal court of course.
No names, employee or SS numbers.
A copper on those lists wrote a motion in the federal court that proposed that the city promote off the Standardized list because you were not going to talk the Harold Washington/Prentiss Marshall legacy out of that. But when they did promote, they would pay the people they passed over on the Raw Score List Sergeant's pay and benefits until they are promoted. They would be paid Out-of Grade so they would not be penalized because they were white and male.
The FOP lawyers wanted no part of that but Judge Prentiss Marshall put that motion in his order that allowed the city to promote.
The copper who made that motion was the last P.O. to be promoted to Sergeant in the first class from that list.
Anonymous said...
I know three people who have a boss for a relative and our in the top 100. I don't know anyone in the top 100 without any clout.
7/27/2014 05:53:00 AM
Hey dumb dumb, it's are not our. You sir ARE an idiot. No wonder you did horrible on the test.
Anonymous said...
How come all the strange ones always do so well????? Not the best cops but know their shit on paper ?!!!
7/27/2014 03:18:00 PM
Because the test is from the general orders, not from the way things are really done.
7/27/2014 04:51:00 PM
Exactly. If you could figure that prior to the test than you are a flat out retard.
Anonymous said...
Please support the Mathews family and share this message below from Joey W Mathews. Also please attend the meeting to show your support.
Hey guys, kinda looking for a short notice quick favor. I'm a Cicero Firefighter now, but I am the son of a Chicago Police Officer that was killed in the line of duty on May 21, 1988. He was killed down the street from the house we lived in in the Hegewisch neighborhood.
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I was on the job then and remember that incident. Terrible, I am glad to hear the son is doing good and is keeping the flame alive for his father.
Officer John Matthews, Rest in peace brother.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
After this test I don't think I could pass the fire entrance exam.
7/27/2014 12:56:00 PM
$300 more and I could have been a fireman.
After this test I don't think I could pass the fire entrance exam.
7/27/2014 12:56:00 PM
Sure you could. They only have to know "put water on fire".
Anonymous said...
OT. Was driving eastbound on the Eisenhower at around 8:15 pm last night and at around Kedzie with CPD on scene saw a black male laying face down in one of the lanes with blood pooling around his head but none the less moving and alive. Two empty gym shoes in the next lane to the left and vehicle with damages to front end off to the left.
Any info about this.
Just another good times in the city.
7/27/2014 10:59:00 AM
Uptown man killed on Eisenhower Expressway
Donnell Ewing, 29, of the 900 block of W. Winona St. was killed Saturday night after he was hit by a car on the Eisenhower Expressway near Kedzie, according to authorities.
After being struck about 7:50 p.m., Ewing was transported to John H. Stroger Hospital of Cook County where he was subsequently pronounced dead at 11:30 p.m. There was no immediate word why the man was on the expressway, according to the Chicago Tribune.
Ok so here is the problem I have with the city and their testing process.... But before I go there, some full disclosure. I took the test, I did terrible. I did not study. I got exactly what I deserve.
That said, would ANYONE who took the test ever go to a college where you take tests all semester and at the end of the semester you are told here is your grade, and no you can't see what you got right and you can't see what you got wrong. Wouldn't it make sense for the city to WANT officers to see their mistakes so they could LEARN FROM THEM? Some, not all, officers would take the opportunity to actually learn something which in turn would make for better officers and a better department overall. Why the process it done this way is completely mind boggling and only leads to more resentment and distrust. To those of you who studied and did well congratulations, for those who studied hard and did poorly.... Well I guess you will never know what you did wrong or how to correct it.
how fast will they promote first 100?
Once you accept your rank of Patrolman for Life everything gets a lot easier.
7/27/2014 09:55:00 PM
Tru dat...Maybe an FTO chevron with no rocker that says "PFL". I'd buy a couple.
Or if you're too dumb to pass fire exam...just sue...you'll get 17 years seniority and back pay
7/27/2014 08:30:00 AM
Anonymous said...
The State FOP Conference ended yesterday. There were more retirees representing Lodge 7 then active officers. They elected a retiree to represent us at the State level. The retirees pay $40 per year to belong to Fop. The union pays for their rooms, flights or mileage, meals and a stipend for drinking. We as active officers basically pay for these retirees vacations at these conferences. They bring back nothing to the active members because they no longer work for the department. Many of these guys have been gone for over a decade. What do they know about what our problems are? I was embarrassed to be a member of Lodge 7.
We know plenty junior and we know you'll sell us down the river for a cup of coffee. Hang in there, you'll be better off when you retire because of us.
Surround and drown!
We don't need no stinkin Sgt,until we need to lay all responsibility on his shoulder,by putting him on scene and on paper, as advised,best sgts are like you and I,regular guys,going to the bathroom regular and knowing we got his back like he got yours!
how fast will they promote first 100?
7/28/2014 11:20:00 AM
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After the last class of 90 there were 1189 sgts. The budgeted amount for sgts is 1190. Since mid April only 12sgts retired... 40 sgts a year( in a good year) will retire. The city will not keep the budgeted amount anywhere 1190 so when they are down 150 or so the city will make a class of 50 or 60. I'm estimating that class won't happen for about 3 or 3 1/2 years. There are a lot of very young sgts who will be around for a very long time.
Anonymous said...
7/27/2014 08:30:00 AM
Anonymous said...
The State FOP Conference ended yesterday. There were more retirees representing Lodge 7 then active officers. They elected a retiree to represent us at the State level. The retirees pay $40 per year to belong to Fop. The union pays for their rooms, flights or mileage, meals and a stipend for drinking. We as active officers basically pay for these retirees vacations at these conferences. They bring back nothing to the active members because they no longer work for the department. Many of these guys have been gone for over a decade. What do they know about what our problems are? I was embarrassed to be a member of Lodge 7.
We know plenty junior and we know you'll sell us down the river for a cup of coffee. Hang in there, you'll be better off when you retire because of us.
7/28/2014 02:13:00 PM
oh no another college kid that didn't get promoted! Sorry without us you would have no union protection at all, day off changed every week so no weekends off etc.. Now go tell mommy how your the big tough Chicago police,have her read you a story,get some warm milk and cookies get the teddy bear goodnight child!
"The State FOP Conference ended yesterday. There were more retirees representing Lodge 7 then active officers. They elected a retiree to represent us at the State level. The retirees pay $40 per year to belong to Fop. The union pays for their rooms, flights or mileage, meals and a stipend for drinking. We as active officers basically pay for these retirees vacations at these conferences. They bring back nothing to the active members because they no longer work for the department. Many of these guys have been gone for over a decade. What do they know about what our problems are? I was embarrassed to be a member of Lodge 7."
So what are you going to DO about it?
A) Introduce a by-law change?
B) File a lawsuit?
Or
C) Just bitch about it on the blog?
I'm guessing "C"
The State FOP Conference ended yesterday. There were more retirees representing Lodge 7 then active officers. They elected a retiree to represent us at the State level. The retirees pay $40 per year to belong to Fop. The union pays for their rooms, flights or mileage, meals and a stipend for drinking. We as active officers basically pay for these retirees vacations at these conferences. They bring back nothing to the active members because they no longer work for the department. Many of these guys have been gone for over a decade. What do they know about what our problems are? I was embarrassed to be a member of Lodge 7."
Why bitch on the blog. Bring it up at the FOP meetings. Dont see how you can sue. Its in the bylaws and they were elected.
Just remember,you guys and girls elected them.
I'm not picking sides but I see on both sides there are good and bad reps. I am retired,but see a few of the retired guys that can do a good job. Just because we are retired doesnt mean we dont understand the problems of the po's on the street. We may actually understand better because we have seen the CPD transition down to where they are now. I also have a son on the job and if I were a rep,which I'm not, my main purpose would be to help him and his fellow active po's, not take care of myself. Just because wqe are retired doesnt mean we don't care about CPD. On the other hand from a few of the reps I see, I might question their motives for being a rep and what their real intentions are. Sorry to rant, but its up to you young guys to elect the best reps,
All of this complaining about retires on the FOP board, sounds like sour grapes, from the guy who was defeated for trustee by a retiree. Yes, you Shrek!
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