Officer Stripped
- An off-duty Chicago Police officer has been stripped of his arrest powers after he allegedly fired multiple times at an off-duty suburban cop who tried to pull him over after suspecting he was driving drunk, law enforcement sources said Monday.
No one was hit by the gunfire, which happened about 4 p.m. Sunday near the Chicago Police Department’s Marquette Park District station on the Southwest Side.
Charges are pending against the 52-year-old Chicago cop, who was assigned to the Marquette Park District.
“If the allegations are true, the actions and behavior demonstrated by this officer are beyond unacceptable, have absolutely no place in our department, and he will be separated from CPD,” according to a statement from the Chicago Police Department.
The off-duty Chicago cop was driving his personal vehicle with a fellow off-duty Chicago officer in the passenger seat when an off-duty Merrionette Park police officer pulled his vehicle behind them at 111th and Kedzie.
Okay - bad idea number one: pulling over cars off-duty. You have no radio, probably no bullet resistant vest, no obvious police markings on your car and usually no identifying uniform.
Bad idea number two, blasting away at a fleeing vehicle.
If you're that desperate to do police work 24/7, follow from a safe distance, call it in, let the on-duty cops handle it. That's it. That being said, bad choice number one has no bearing whatsoever on bad choice number two. Unless this guy is heavier than heavy, he's gone, and if the evidence supports the allegation, he'll be lucky to escape jail time.
Bad idea number two, blasting away at a fleeing vehicle.
If you're that desperate to do police work 24/7, follow from a safe distance, call it in, let the on-duty cops handle it. That's it. That being said, bad choice number one has no bearing whatsoever on bad choice number two. Unless this guy is heavier than heavy, he's gone, and if the evidence supports the allegation, he'll be lucky to escape jail time.
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
131 Comments:
Chicago Tribune indicates that the "local police officer " was on duty.
Was off-duty Merrionette Park police officer waving his gun and acting stupid?
Perhaps off-duty Chicago officer feared for his life.
Is he related to your police superintendent?
I think you got your parks mixed up. Morgan Park District, not Marquette Park District.
It was our guy who allegedly did the shooting during this one, not the off duty MP officer trying to be the hero.
Got a little confused as to who was doing what to who. Did officers get mixed around?
SCC, are you saying that the Merrionette Park cop shot at the OD CPD as he fled? Who fired first? The way you wrote it, if I'm reading correctly makes it sound as if the off duty Chicago guy was fired upon first by a suburban off duty in a vehicle which would not identify him as a police officer. (Not making excuses for a drunk officer shooting his pistol either. Just trying to get clarificarion.) Thanks. I know the CPD officer quite well. It's a terrible mess and I hope his family will be ok.
Jeez...
Another black eye eh?
Watch all these "fed up tax paying citizens" postin on the blog lately, jump all over this outburst of stupidity.
"See? Told you guys that you're out of control and undeserving of your pay and pensions."
WTF man?
Where is the Marquette Park District? Do they mean 010?
What a bunch of savages in Ferguson! I guess if your a punk that is 350 lbs 604 tall rob steal and attack police officers it's ok according to these scumbag protesting looting , arsonists. That is some B.S. Why are the police and government allowing this behavior. Lock their asses up! No I bonds ,no tv, , no new ports, only bologna sandwiches no fried chicken for a month minimum No trial. They should be treated like the savages they are.
he's a jaggoff to
And yet we wonder why people generally don't like the police.
I'm not sure who to crown as the bigger D-Bag in this scenario, but I'm leaning towards the Merrionette Park idiot for (if true) attempting a traffic stop off duty in his personal car.
And our guy?!?! 52 years old (and I'll assume at least a star on his sleeve) and he's not smart enough to not get into this type of shit? What. The. Fuck. The hairgels get a mulligan for their next fuck-up based on this stupidity.
He's fucked and he's always been an asshole so sad to say but better he's off the job than on. Feel sorry for his family!
what we need, more bad news. What is a Marquette Park police officer? Our profession just keeps taking a beating. We need some good press for a change. Time to rescue some babies out of a burning building or some such thing.
This sounds like a job for married to the law chicago officers.
WoW not a hairgel either this will be another national news spot Poor rham and the democrats the rug just doesn't fit
What the hell pulling people over off duty??? Wonder how the dui was administered and writen. Way to screw a ther copper over. What a true idiot who chased with a personal vehicle for possible dui. Just another small dept that needs activity and asks to do it off duty lol.
Scc
In the end, probably more to the story than being reported.
It was only 4pm!! Kids are out at that time. What a moron.
No way, no jail time. Didn't a state officer fire into a home because his ex was being plugged by another copper? He was never charged. HISLEA.
You forgot one
Bad Idea #3: Driving Drunk
Conflicting information 111th and Kedzie is nowhere near 10th District.
Did it happen near 010 or at 111th and Kedzie?
The three stooges could not have done this better.
No keeses for them.
Keystone Cops????
I know that I have been retired for awhile, so could someone please tell me where the "Marquette Park" district is?
For the couple of people griping about 011 3rd watch, so bid the fuck out. Oh I know you're a dogass but you want to say you work in 011 to make it seem like your some hot shot who worked in a bad district. Leave room for those of us who actually want to work. Hey as you say shit about the 3rd watch supervisors, do you stand there and eat the food Lt. Masters brings in for the whole watch, or eat the cookies Lt. Johnson brings in. I bet you do. Have you noticed everyone wants to take lunch between 1900-2000 hrs, I am guilty of that to, but I try to refrain. Also I have never heard that lunches were completely denied they were asked to wait until one of the 8 cars currently on lunch come up clear. I personally have never been denied when I put in a slip to be off, but I am realistic, I don't ask to be off every Saturday or Friday night. I also have never heard either Lieutenant yell at anyone. But that's o.k. keep griping dog ass, because that just makes me look even better.
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Stay off the blog Masters! And if you think that by buying us food is going to make us like you think again. But at least I will have a belly full haha. Listen ask the officers in 11 we will tell you to your face what is going on here.
Is this what we want? Suburban morons playing vigilante cop off duty on our streets. This is a case of moron vs idiot.
To all you that say great things about Lt Masters. I bet you are the same ones that said Evans is a great Commander! So great that every choice he made was great! Just like his choice to bring his class commander capt Lemmer to 011. Listen I could care less about masters, Johnson or any other self serving boss. Just help each other out and stop with the me me me.
WTF!!
Alcohol did him in. Don't let it happen to you!
Off duty and trying to make a 501 pinch!? Man, talk about having nothing better to do with your free time!
Not that it any excuse for firing your gun at anyone at 4:00 on a Sunday afternoon while off duty probably after watching the Bears game, but if I'm not mistaken, aren't Merrionette Park p.o.'s all part timers.
Makes me wonder what would make any p.o. who is off duty to try to make a traffic stop in their own vehicle. In 22 it's difficult to imagine a traffic stop on duty. Can just imagine the shit this guy must pull while on duty. Look out fellas and ladies while leaving Bourbon Street.
I personally was stopped by a M. P. officer while at 111th and Spaulding. Told me I committed a violation while in Merrionette Park. Told him to go f... himself as I had come straight west bound on 111th Street from I-57. He was shocked when he found out I was a p.o.
Sure there is more to the story with this guy from M.P.
On a side note... The off duty suburban officer from marrienette park is 23yrs old and new to that dept. However, he's also in the process of becoming CPD. He's 1/2 through the personnel process. I wonder if this incident will disrupt his hiring to CPD & I wonder if it doesn't will he be assigned to 022? That would be ackward.
Dope fired his weapon at an off duty cop and fled should be charged and fired .
Fired a gun , failed to call 911 , put this clown in jail , fun dinosaur , hope he's off the payroll .
This whole scenario is fucked up. The off duty suburban cop should not be pulling cars over off duty. But at the same time the cpd officer shouldn't be driving drunk and having his weapon on him and firing it while intoxicated. Dumb and dumber.
The Merrionette Park fool should worry about the shitbird funerals causing havoc going into Mt. Hopeless Cemetary instead of trying to play police in Chicago. Those guys are pt. timers who make 14 dollars and hr. Merrionette Park consists of about 10 whole blocks. Not condoning Chicago guys actions-totally fucked. But MP suburb guy is a total wannaabe hero IDIOT.
Maybe they were filming an episode of Chicago PD?
It's Merrionette Park people... A small suburb where the bar 115 bourbon street is (If that helps).
What a dumbass. Thankfully, nobody got hurt. That's why I confine my drinking to the garage!
OFf Topic, but should be news about how police use of force was justified:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-hammond-traffic-stop-taser-20141125-story.html
whos on first, whats on second!
Morgan park is the 22nd District located at 1900 W. Monterey,near 111th Vincennes.
No benefit for him @ Bourbon Street.
"And our guy?!?! 52 years old (and I'll assume at least a star on his sleeve) and he's not smart enough to not get into this type of shit? What. The. Fuck. The hairgels get a mulligan for their next fuck-up based on this stupidity."
Nope, he's got around 12 or 13 years on but his age would make you think he's wise enough not to pull this bullshit. And no one should get a mulligan for any stupidity, hairgel or dinosaur. Enough is enough already with the fuck ups that make the news and reflect poorly on all of us. At some point people need to think before they act, shit doesn't get swept under the rug like it used to. Some stuff might but cameras are everywhere and shit has a way of being brought to light. The news just loves getting a hold of stories like this and beating them to death. I'm not going to be hypocritical and say I've never had a few to many and drove home before, most of us have. But, I think we need to learn from others fuck ups and not become the next news headline for doing some stupid shit on duty or off.
Mike has been retired too long to know the difference between his parks.
First it was Morgan Park, 022nd.
Second it was a moron off-duty part time, want to be hero with a history of police impersonation that tried to do a traffic stop. Yes, he was in his personal car.
It was the CPD officer that allegedly fired his weapon after almost a 5 mile chase started by this clown from MPPD.
The rest doesn't need to be shared in this venue, that much is public.
Make smart decisions people.
Who shot at who
If he thought he thought he was being carjacked...
or if you think you are being carjacked EVADE and EXIT TE KILL ZONE.
DO NOT pursue your attacker (especially when you HBD)
IF PURSUED head toward a well lighted and populated place preferably a police station. Flashing your lights and sounding your horn can attract the police. It is important to be going toward the police not fleeing the police. Unless in imminent danger get on your cell phone, but if you think you are under attack have your weapon handy but concentrate on your driving.
What a messed up situation. I can't condone the firing of shots based on what was printed, but I also can't condone an off duty police officer stopping a car for suspected drunk driving. Call it in.
It's a conglomeration of the greater Morgan Park and Merrionette Park metropolitan areas. Didn't everyone already know this?
What a dumbass. Thankfully, nobody got hurt. That's why I confine my drinking to the garage!
This is so screwed up on so many different levels. Only way to describe this is SOS Stuck on Stupid.
Sounds like two equally soft police officers had the unfortunate opportunity to meet. Dumb and dumber.
First of all, SCC didn't make the mistake of putting Marquette Park District, when script is in italics it is an excerpt from the media.
Secondly, even though the MP cop is a goof for doing all this shit off duty there is plenty to hang the CPD cop on this one, DUI, carrying firearm while intoxicated, firing said firearm while intoxicated. Of course all this is if the media story is entirely true, which isn't always the case. Lies by omission.
drinking & driving is bad
shooting to scare someone is bad
doing traffic stops off duty is bad
Game over !
Another black eye for cpd , thanks to an over served dinosaur , did he tip waitress Will he be fired ?
If he fired a shot at an off duty cop , he should be in jail .
Read the article, it's a lot more clear. There are more than enough dumb decisions to go around in this one. What the heck was the off duty passenger saying/doing during all this? The police have no greater enemies than ourselves.
Waitress from Burbon st. Called cops because he only left a 50 cent tip.
I'm certainly not defending our guy but idiocy was displayed on both sides.
WTF was the Merrionette Pk maguey/gal thinking??
On a side note... The off duty suburban officer from marrienette park is 23yrs old and new to that dept. However, he's also in the process of becoming CPD. He's 1/2 through the personnel process. I wonder if this incident will disrupt his hiring to CPD & I wonder if it doesn't will he be assigned to 022? That would be ackward.
11/25/2014 08:57:00 AM
If that's true then this incident should torpedo his chances.What a knucklehead.
The CPD copper is a known asshole to fellow coppers and will not receive any sympathy from me. What comes around goes around my friend.
Better apply for a LINK card....
Just sayin...
Future hire? Future liability
This is a case of moron vs idiot.
11/25/2014 08:05:00 AM
24/7 traffic cop vs drunk trigger finger retard
It's only a matter of time before this merrionette officer involve himself in another situation off-duty, resulting in him being fired, hurt, or possibly killed. It's beyond stupidity to attempt making a traffic stop in your personal vehicle, while off-duty. Now, with some citizens arming themselves with the passage of conceal and carry laws, this behavior is suicidal. Both officers behaved egregious and reckless, as the drunken idiot should be fired and the merrionette officer should be terminated also. Both officer are extreme liabilities for future lawsuits..... The only police action needed was dialing 911. With 16years on the cpd, I still comprehend some of the stupid things that officers continue doing......
If you are planning to go out and drink take into consideration taking a taxi. Put your local taxis telephone numbers in you cell phone for quick reference. In doing this a lot of careers will be saved.
First of all...none of you were there...second of all enough of this suburban cop vs city cop bs...supposed to be the same team...ya wanna bash the kid? Fine...but what if the drunk officer killed someone? He was driving in the mt greenwood area? What if he ran over one of your kids? Maybe it was a silly move to stop and see if this drunk driver was ok? Either way....same team people....same freakin team....but maybe there are some people who think they are superior than everyone else
He is the former driver for McFartFace.
Off duty MP Po noticed the flower guy at 111 and Pulaski almost get deliberately taken out by a car. Mp Po pulled along side said car at kedzie . Mp Po exits vehicle with badge displayed in hand , goes to driver side of car , announces he is the police and informs the driver to roll down window and that he almost struck the flower guy. Unsure as to why he was driving in a wreck less manor , mp Po notices open beer in the car, driver never rolls down window and takes off. Mp Po gets back in pov and calls 911 with plate make model color and direction, 911 won't stay on the line so mp Po follows to call with future update of direction for cpd to stop this guy. Offender turns down side street mp Po at a distance is behind , offender pulls to curb mp Po stops at a distance still, both offenders exit vehicle walking tward mp Po pov , driver and fire arm in hand, points at windshield of mp Po pov , mp Po takes off around man with gun, man with gun then fires at the back of mp Po pov. Mp Po then goes right to 22 to file a report
Walking up to his window at a red light and telling another officer he shouldn't be driving is a far cry from pulling him over. I'd bet that there was a a FOP sticker prominently displayed on the back of the offender's car. Yes, the CPD guy is the offender and the goof. He glockef himself and his family.
I don't think that you can make this shit up?
The Chicago guy no dinosaur, 12 years on.
Will FOP pay for his defense? Recently FOP has been paying for non duty allegations of rape, drug use, domestics, medical roll abuse and false arrest. I was denied an attorney 3 years ago for a bs beef and I beat the case - now a guy on my watch is being given a lawyer for free for the same allegations.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
On a side note... The off duty suburban officer from marrienette park is 23yrs old and new to that dept. However, he's also in the process of becoming CPD. He's 1/2 through the personnel process. I wonder if this incident will disrupt his hiring to CPD & I wonder if it doesn't will he be assigned to 022? That would be ackward.
11/25/2014 08:57:00 AM
I'm thinking the extraordinarily poor judgment exhibited (undertaking a chase in your personal vehicle when off-duty, for starters) would knock him off the eligibility list.
He's a multi-million dollar financial liability waiting to happen to the City of Chicago.
You all are amazing.
No, Merrionette Park shouldn't be playing Robocop off duty. But I'm disgusted (though not surprised) by how people are jumping on him rather than off-duty CPD for the alleged 501 and agg. assault (it's in the news, so don't try to say "Don't air all the business on the blog"). How about responsibility for his own shit?? You all almost sound like the "They didn't have to kill 'im, they coulda shot 'im in the leg" types.
And do any of you actually know the p.o. involved? Have you never wondered how he passed the psych test anyway?
Can you say "Fireball"? I bet he had a few of those watching the Bear game!
I'm not condoning drinking and driving but with all of the police impersonators stopping people and robbing them, I can see how they thought they were being stopped by an armed police impersonator "shaking down" dui drivers. The coppers let him go back to the car and then pulled his weapon in an attempt to arrest him. Bad idea on both parts to play police while drunk. When the MP coper took off the CPD officer assumed it was an armed police impersonator attempting to run him over and flee so he fired.
Right? Wrong? I don't know. Just shows how bad things can go real fast. And thank G that the copped missed.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sounds like two equally soft police officers had the unfortunate opportunity to meet. Dumb and dumber.
11/25/2014 01:11:00 PM
Bingo
I have the inside scoop on this one fellas. The drunk cop almost hit a pedestrian with his car and that's when the other cop decided to pull him over.
If you saw that while off duty and DoD nothing about it then you need to look at yourself in the mirror.
Another black eye? Was a 501 performed on the Officer? What was his breathalyzer result? Anybody have any details? Many here are saying it's fucked up because he shot at the Suburban Cop. Drunk or not there are plenty here who would shoot first if you are being actively pursued by a regular civilian vehicle, and that goes for the drunk and the sober. Too many coppers like to point the finger and don't sit back and think that they might have done the same. How many times have we seen it on this blog where a cop gets car jacked or seriously injured during a car jacking? Maybe the copper felt he had no choice? Regardless of what you think of him right now if these guys were actual car jackers you'd all be wishing him well after his incident. Then you'd have plenty who would say "Oh I would've killed them all." Blah blah blah. But since it was some off duty hot shot suburban cop who lives for this cop shit this guy is a black eye to the department? If he was drunk then that's the only fucked up part about this I see. Everthing else is reasonable if he was pursued a long distance why would he want to lead the offenders to his home? Maybe he felt like he had no choice or that a police station was too far. Tunnel vision is a bitch and we deal with many of these factors at work. Just because we are off duty doesn't mean we can "turn it off." To sit here and judge him on what we have read so far is unfair. Because many of you would have done the same, drunk or sober.
As long as the CPD warrior did a TRR all is well.
Can't believe you low life's bashing this MP guy. I won't hash out the facts but this MP kid didn't nothing wrong, but go ahead and keep the blind faith!
We coppers are our own worst enemy, always have been and always will be.
Is this what we want? Suburban morons playing vigilante cop off duty on our streets. This is a case of moron vs idiot
We're sworn officers you a-hole
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You forgot one
Bad Idea #3: Driving Drunk
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That's bad idea #0
I am assigned to the academy. I am responsible for overseeing the quality and design of the training. Most of the instructors do a stellar job. We do have the rotten apples. We have some complete retards. These people make it pretty hard for the academy to deliver high quality training.
A firearms instructor was recently suspended for discharging firearms while on a boat. The instructor admitted that he would not have passed a breathalyzer test.
During the instructors defense, the instructor argued that the General Orders did not prohibit the discharge of firearms.
This means that the instructor did not understand what he was supposed to be teaching.
We have some real retards on the job. It is fortunate that most of the instructors at the academy have high aptitude and advanced degrees.
The lesson from these stories is do not drink, drive (including boating), and discharge firearms. Those three things do not mix too well.
Remember that we teach ethics too. Do the right thing.
Anonymous said...
Will FOP pay for his defense? Recently FOP has been paying for non duty allegations of rape, drug use, domestics, medical roll abuse and false arrest. I was denied an attorney 3 years ago for a bs beef and I beat the case - now a guy on my watch is being given a lawyer for free for the same allegations.
11/25/2014 05:00:00 PM
Have you heard there was an election at the FOP. There is a new team in place and maybe the policy has changed. Your incident happened under the old FOP administration
At least our CPD guy didn't jam his pistola down the throat of the off duty wannabe hero. Speaking of which what's up with Commander Enamel Remover??? Awfully quiet, just like it always gets when they hide the clouted and make the bad things they did go byebye.
Wow, some of you are pathetic. I know the "wanna be hero cop" and worked with him. He has never been a police impersonator. Unless you know the full story shut your damn mouth. Someone posted what really happened in the comments.
Should've just Ubered!
HAHA! Traffic stop in his personal car. So when you arrest him do you put him in a jail cell in your house and type the report on your personal computer? No...that would be insane and dangerous. Most of us paid money for our car which means I have more value for it than a smile from some LT about a DUI. Office...look in the mirror, and repeat until you are cured. "I am special, my dad loves me".
"If you saw that while off duty and DoD nothing about it then you need to look at yourself in the mirror.
11/25/2014 07:52:00 PM"
I've seen plenty of nefarious shit off duty and called 911. Almost doesn't count except in hand grenades & horsehoes. I have no problem looking in the mirror, Tackleberry.
Anonymous said...
Will FOP pay for his defense? Recently FOP has been paying for non duty allegations of rape, drug use, domestics, medical roll abuse and false arrest. I was denied an attorney 3 years ago for a bs beef and I beat the case - now a guy on my watch is being given a lawyer for free for the same allegations.
11/25/2014 05:00:00 PM
++++++
Your full of shit!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I have the inside scoop on this one fellas. The drunk cop almost hit a pedestrian with his car and that's when the other cop decided to pull him over.
If you saw that while off duty and DoD nothing about it then you need to look at yourself in the mirror.
11/25/2014 07:52:00 PM
Yes, that's when it's time to dial 911 on your cell phone and give the pertinent info to the ON DUTY police.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sounds like two equally soft police officers had the unfortunate opportunity to meet. Dumb and dumber.
11/25/2014 01:11:00 PM
Yes, I agree that this is wrong on many levels. I would not pull over for a civilian vehicle that did not have emergency lights and if it pursued me I sure would be worried that I was about to be victimized. Get on the phone and call. But, then if the pursuing vehicle was driving off I sure would not shoot at it.
Anonymous said...
I know that I have been retired for awhile, so could someone please tell me where the "Marquette Park" district is?
11/25/2014 07:29:00 AM
If you have been retired " for awhile" you would know where the Marquette Park District" is. Stop trolling.
The CPD copper is a known asshole to fellow coppers and will not receive any sympathy from me. What comes around goes around my friend.
Better apply for a LINK card....
Just sayin...
11/25/2014 03:11:00 PM
The CPD guy is a fucking GOOF! he was years ago in 005, and hasn't improved much since then.
It sounds like it was a dark and stormy night for this guy....
Will FOP pay for his defense?
Only if you are on the popular list. Otherwise.... Your fooked.
setLike media and people of Ferguson, we have a ton of people jumping on the band wagon here and reporting on what should or should not have happened without knowing the actuals facts surrounding the incident. Wouldn't it be right to take a deep breath and let the investigation proceed where the facts will be revealed and conclusions drawn from the facts.
Anonymous said...
Another black eye? Was a 501 performed on the Officer? What was his breathalyzer result? Anybody have any details? Many here are saying it's fucked up because he shot at the Suburban Cop. Drunk or not there are plenty here who would shoot first if you are being actively pursued by a regular civilian vehicle, and that goes for the drunk and the sober. Too many coppers like to point the finger and don't sit back and think that they might have done the same. How many times have we seen it on this blog where a cop gets car jacked or seriously injured during a car jacking? Maybe the copper felt he had no choice? Regardless of what you think of him right now if these guys were actual car jackers you'd all be wishing him well after his incident. Then you'd have plenty who would say "Oh I would've killed them all." Blah blah blah. But since it was some off duty hot shot suburban cop who lives for this cop shit this guy is a black eye to the department? If he was drunk then that's the only fucked up part about this I see. Everthing else is reasonable if he was pursued a long distance why would he want to lead the offenders to his home? Maybe he felt like he had no choice or that a police station was too far. Tunnel vision is a bitch and we deal with many of these factors at work. Just because we are off duty doesn't mean we can "turn it off." To sit here and judge him on what we have read so far is unfair. Because many of you would have done the same, drunk or sober.
11/25/2014 07:57:00 PM
Huh?! Maybe it's just me but how about a 911 call.."Hey I'm an off duty PO and some whack job has been chasing me from Kedzie-ish to Monterey." That's plenty of time to make a call and if dude poses a threat to you before any cars catch up with you...well you got your own firearm (hopefully). But to say that most coppers would pull over and fire at an unknown person down the street and then continue to fire at him as he FLEES...I think you're being generous with your "most of us would" idea. Just maybe...just maybe he didn't call because he had just almost hit a pedestrian, an overzealous off duty tried to stop him and he was toasted. Just maybe. Would you give a non-cop a pass if he was a concealed carry guy and started firing at someone down the street for following him and he never even called 911?!?! Yeah right. The off duty guy had no business getting out of his car and walking up to this guy. He should have just called it in and stayed with him as long as he thought necessary until a uniform can take over.
Anonymous said...
First it was Morgan Park, 022nd.
Second it was a moron off-duty part time, want to be hero with a history of police impersonation that tried to do a traffic stop. Yes, he was in his personal car.
It was the CPD officer that allegedly fired his weapon after almost a 5 mile chase started by this clown from MPPD.
The rest doesn't need to be shared in this venue, that much is public.
Make smart decisions people.
11/25/2014 11:01:00 AM
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WTH!
How about being smart and driving right to the police station.
A 5 mile chase? Off Duty?
Stupid Stupid Stupid
Anonymous said...
I have the inside scoop on this one fellas. The drunk cop almost hit a pedestrian with his car and that's when the other cop decided to pull him over.
If you saw that while off duty and DoD nothing about it then you need to look at yourself in the mirror.
11/25/2014 07:52:00 PM
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Seriously, ALMOST HIT?
Come on. A off duty to pull someone over for an Almost hit.
Sorry, nope.
Hey as you say shit about the 3rd watch supervisors, do you stand there and eat the food Lt. Masters brings in for the whole watch, or eat the cookies Lt. Johnson brings in. I bet you do.
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I am dumbfounded and cannot even come up with a response to this....except.....SERIOUSLY????
Because many of you would have done the same, drunk or sober.
11/25/2014 07:57:00 PM
Drop anchor less than a block from the police station you work at, blast away at another hard charger and then scram? Yep, I'd do that.
Thinking that you are special and gods gift is not a good idea in 2014+ Things have changed.
Just say "It wasn't me!"
Anonymous said...
I am assigned to the academy. I am responsible for overseeing the quality and design of the training. Most of the instructors do a stellar job. We do have the rotten apples. We have some complete retards. These people make it pretty hard for the academy to deliver high quality training.
A firearms instructor was recently suspended for discharging firearms while on a boat. The instructor admitted that he would not have passed a breathalyzer test.
During the instructors defense, the instructor argued that the General Orders did not prohibit the discharge of firearms.
This means that the instructor did not understand what he was supposed to be teaching.
We have some real retards on the job. It is fortunate that most of the instructors at the academy have high aptitude and advanced degrees.
The lesson from these stories is do not drink, drive (including boating), and discharge firearms. Those three things do not mix too well.
Remember that we teach ethics too. Do the right thing.
11/25/2014 10:31:00 PM
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Do not take the bait. No one from the academy is posting anything on this blog. Even more, not one from the academy is that retarded and stupid to post something like the above comment.
Above all else, no one from the academy is that stupid and retarded to go boating, drinking, discharging firearms, and arguing that he is allowed to discharge firearms.
Do not take the bait. One incident (the stripped guy) is hard enough to belief but two of the same incidents will never happen especially involving an instructor at the academy.
Anonymous said...
Wow, some of you are pathetic. I know the "wanna be hero cop" and worked with him. He has never been a police impersonator. Unless you know the full story shut your damn mouth. Someone posted what really happened in the comments.
11/25/2014 10:46:00 PM
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Yes, this kid has been a police impersonator and has conducted completely unprofessional traffic stops in MP. His friend and co-offender has been arrested and charged by Evergreen Police for impersonating.
This kid is bad news.
No doubt the CPD officer screwed up, there is no excuse for his final actions.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I have the inside scoop on this one fellas. The drunk cop almost hit a pedestrian with his car and that's when the other cop decided to pull him over.
If you saw that while off duty and DoD nothing about it then you need to look at yourself in the mirror.
Do you know how many times almost happens daily in this city? Also, it was not a normal citizen crossing the street. It was one of those street urchins that clog the street begging and selling shit.
At least our CPD guy didn't jam his pistola down the throat of the off duty wannabe hero. Speaking of which what's up with Commander Enamel Remover??? Awfully quiet, just like it always gets when they hide the clouted and make the bad things they did go bye
If that thug had enamel or anything else removed maybe the state would have a better case . He is a piece of shit already proven liar.
That commander is getting fucked and
railroaded. When the case goes to trial and that thug and IPRA testifies, IPRA, that gangbanger, and the state are going to look really fucking bad.
There is a reason the hall and headquarters are not on the bandwagon to demote and fire him. This aint a Cozzi, Howard, or Callahan thing even though a bunch of haters want to make it so.
And by the way, he wasn't ratted out and the dna supports him. Stay tuned.
that flower guy "almost gets hit" about 100 times a day, he's old and not very nimble and does display a rather cavalier attitude whilst plying his trade in traffic. So, do we have absolute proof that the CPD guy was intoxicated? No. Do we have an overzealous wet behind the ears kid who most likely plays PoPo every chance he gets off duty? Probably. But the devils advocate in me wonders why, if the CPD guy was legit, doesn't call it in that he's being chased by a possible impersonator. Do we have irrefutable proof that he let a round go? I don't know, were there other independent calls of shots fired at the location? It sounds like our CPD guy isn't well liked by his co-workers
but the wannabe is exactly that and if he does manage to make CPD it wont be long before he steps in his own shit. And no, I do not condone or excuse driving under the influence.
The MP cop's parents are CPD. He's taken the polygraph so he's on the verge of entering the academy. So the real question is will he be flagged and reexamined or skate into the job? Opinions?
Was a 501 performed on the Officer?
Yes, he was well over
Many here are saying it's fucked up because he shot at the Suburban Cop.
It is very fucked up cause he chose to utilize deadly force
Drunk or not there are plenty here who would shoot first if you are being actively pursued by a regular civilian vehicle, and that goes for the drunk and the sober.
No there isn't
Maybe the copper felt he had no choice?
He can bring that up at trial
But since it was some off duty hot shot suburban cop who lives for this cop shit this guy is a black eye to the department?
Do not look down on suburban cops, they face the same dangers we all do
If he was drunk then that's the only fucked up part about this I see.
He was
Everything else is reasonable if he was pursued a long distance why would he want to lead the offenders to his home?
Why did he leave the scene after the shooting?
Maybe he felt like he had no choice or that a police station was too far.
He was at 022
Because many of you would have done the same, drunk or sober.
That is incorrect. He can say whatever his lawyer tells him to at trial.
What a mush... both the goof from chicago and the off duty new guy from merionette park. Hey kid, when you are only 23 years old and brand new on the job do yourself a favor when off duty.. DONT PLAY POLICE!!! To the off duty chicago copper, how stupid can you be? Dont give me the song and dance about he didnt know it was a copper etc.. he knew, he was drunk and had huge beer balls. If he genuinly didnt know it was a copper then why did he flee and HIDE after the shooting? Both guys are idiots. Kid from merionette park, get a life you loser.. stop pulling people over off duty and in your personal car. You will learn stupid.
Anonymous said...
Off duty MP Po noticed the flower guy at 111 and Pulaski almost get deliberately taken out by a car. Mp Po pulled along side said car at kedzie . Mp Po exits vehicle with badge displayed in hand , goes to driver side of car , announces he is the police and informs the driver to roll down window and that he almost struck the flower guy. Unsure as to why he was driving in a wreck less manor , mp Po notices open beer in the car, driver never rolls down window and takes off. Mp Po gets back in pov and calls 911 with plate make model color and direction, 911 won't stay on the line so mp Po follows to call with future update of direction for cpd to stop this guy. Offender turns down side street mp Po at a distance is behind , offender pulls to curb mp Po stops at a distance still, both offenders exit vehicle walking tward mp Po pov , driver and fire arm in hand, points at windshield of mp Po pov , mp Po takes off around man with gun, man with gun then fires at the back of mp Po pov. Mp Po then goes right to 22 to file a report
11/25/2014 04:11:00 PM
^^^This IS what happened.^^^ So All you morons who are trying to defend this jagoff CPD can stfu. The guy is and always has been a black eye to law enforcement. The MPPD guy NEVER pursued him , he followed from a distance until the asshole CPD went down a street he could not get out of and that's when he and the passenger/witness exited the car and approached the MPPD guys car as asshole was carrying his weapon (passenger was not armed). The MPPD took off and asshole CPD fired at the car. No bullshit about "he thought he was being carjacked", just a jagoff drunk cop playing with peoples lives.
Asshole deserves to be fired.
So FUCK HIM!!
Liquor is the Devil's Lubricant.
Hey, cannot bury this shit no more, days of driving drunk and then popping caps were over with the better of 20 years ago.
Evem in the old days, copper' being drunk and then popping a cap left a few copper' DOA.
There are a million stories of the old days. Booze and guns will cause you serious frief.
Us old timer' had a horse shoe in our asses in what we pulled off after stoping at the end of the watch !!
Seen many a good man now pushing up the grass cause of booze.
Seen copper' come to work drunk, stay drunk at work and leave work drunk !
Those guy at "EAP" are good men and they can help you guys that got the curse. Call them, I seen these angels in action helping copper from the "curse."
All involved should be glad they didn't get killed.. everyone is so like no one was hurt or killed. Reckless driving and shots fired... these guys are not Police but just PUNKS with stars in their pockets. real Police help people and are roll models. For all the do nothings you are as bad as the criminals. To look the other way is a criminal act.....
The MP cop's parents are CPD. He's taken the polygraph so he's on the verge of entering the academy. So the real question is will he be flagged and reexamined or skate into the job? Opinions?
11/26/2014 02:14:00 PM
Who really cares! I don't!
I have to sit here and laugh...a lot of you with these so called "facts" about this and that. I'll tell you your wrong...neither the wanna be not his "co offender" were ever charged with impersonating the police. Before you open your mouth make sure you get it straight. Oh wait...the Chicago way... The "real" police...I forgot. My bad
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I am assigned to the academy. I am responsible for overseeing the quality and design of the training. Most of the instructors do a stellar job. We do have the rotten apples. We have some complete retards. These people make it pretty hard for the academy to deliver high quality training.
A firearms instructor was recently suspended for discharging firearms while on a boat. The instructor admitted that he would not have passed a breathalyzer test.
During the instructors defense, the instructor argued that the General Orders did not prohibit the discharge of firearms.
This means that the instructor did not understand what he was supposed to be teaching.
We have some real retards on the job. It is fortunate that most of the instructors at the academy have high aptitude and advanced degrees.
The lesson from these stories is do not drink, drive (including boating), and discharge firearms. Those three things do not mix too well.
Remember that we teach ethics too. Do the right thing.
11/25/2014 10:31:00 PM
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Do not take the bait. No one from the academy is posting anything on this blog. Even more, not one from the academy is that retarded and stupid to post something like the above comment.
Above all else, no one from the academy is that stupid and retarded to go boating, drinking, discharging firearms, and arguing that he is allowed to discharge firearms.
Do not take the bait. One incident (the stripped guy) is hard enough to belief but two of the same incidents will never happen especially involving an instructor at the academy.
11/26/2014 10:26:00 AM
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It turns out that the above story is true. There is a firearms instructor at the academy who got suspended for discharging firearms.
When the MP Officer hits the academy it will be a marriage made in heaven. They can both go boating, drinking, and discharging firearms.
Will the stripped CPD officer suffer a suspension or a discharge? If the instructor from the academy was not fired, then should the stripped CPD Officer be fired?
It is time to clean out the academy and put in new personnel, highly trained.
Hey as you say shit about the 3rd watch supervisors, do you stand there and eat the food Lt. Masters brings in for the whole watch, or eat the cookies Lt. Johnson brings in. I bet you do.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the best thing I've ever read on this blog...EVER! If I would have known years ago that giving cookies away would absolve me of all my wrong doing, I would have been a chef!
Who's the Savage in this incident? I lost track.
I find it really strange that you guys would just on the suburb cop solely on the fact that it was CPD that fucked up. Especially dicking around with lethal force piss drunk.
Nothing here that " Mcfire my own weapon a lot of times" hasn't done himself. We have all heard and read the stories of shooting streetlights while avoiding "almost hitting " newspaper boxes, mail boxes, flower carts, homeless people, windshield washers, beggers, other drunk guys shooting g their weapons at the same streetlights and ex or soon to be ex spouses after slapping them around a little "just a little ". So take it easy there is a lot to deal with here. And what happens in Jersey stays in our minds forever. Dyla Hata
Anonymous said...
that flower guy "almost gets hit" about 100 times a day, he's old and not very nimble and does display a rather cavalier attitude whilst plying his trade in traffic. So, do we have absolute proof that the CPD guy was intoxicated? No. Do we have an overzealous wet behind the ears kid who most likely plays PoPo every chance he gets off duty? Probably. But the devils advocate in me wonders why, if the CPD guy was legit, doesn't call it in that he's being chased by a possible impersonator. Do we have irrefutable proof that he let a round go? I don't know, were there other independent calls of shots fired at the location? It sounds like our CPD guy isn't well liked by his co-workers
but the wannabe is exactly that and if he does manage to make CPD it wont be long before he steps in his own shit. And no, I do not condone or excuse driving under the influence.
11/26/2014 01:52:00 PM
Anonymous said...
Another black eye? Was a 501 performed on the Officer? What was his breathalyzer result? Anybody have any details? Many here are saying it's fucked up because he shot at the Suburban Cop. Drunk or not there are plenty here who would shoot first if you are being actively pursued by a regular civilian vehicle, and that goes for the drunk and the sober. Too many coppers like to point the finger and don't sit back and think that they might have done the same. How many times have we seen it on this blog where a cop gets car jacked or seriously injured during a car jacking? Maybe the copper felt he had no choice? Regardless of what you think of him right now if these guys were actual car jackers you'd all be wishing him well after his incident. Then you'd have plenty who would say "Oh I would've killed them all." Blah blah blah. But since it was some off duty hot shot suburban cop who lives for this cop shit this guy is a black eye to the department? If he was drunk then that's the only fucked up part about this I see. Everthing else is reasonable if he was pursued a long distance why would he want to lead the offenders to his home? Maybe he felt like he had no choice or that a police station was too far. Tunnel vision is a bitch and we deal with many of these factors at work. Just because we are off duty doesn't mean we can "turn it off." To sit here and judge him on what we have read so far is unfair. Because many of you would have done the same, drunk or sober.
11/25/2014 07:57:00 PM
2 of the biggest morons on this site. Do us all a favor and stay at the coffee house, we don't need your dumb asses jeopardizing our careers and losing our homes over your tough guy heroics. Fucking idiots like you and the asshole this blogs about, are the reason there is so much divide. We're all tired of cleaning up your shit.
Anonymous said...
Hey as you say shit about the 3rd watch supervisors, do you stand there and eat the food Lt. Masters brings in for the whole watch, or eat the cookies Lt. Johnson brings in. I bet you do.----------------------------------------------
This is the best thing I've ever read on this blog...EVER! If I would have known years ago that giving cookies away would absolve me of all my wrong doing, I would have been a chef!
11/26/2014 10:57:00 PM
And that's why you're not. Because you'd be a baker.
Cue the circus music!!! How embarrassing for us good CPD officers. No sympathy here and I don't blame the off duty suburban officers.
Maybe they were filming Married to the Law.....Chicago style
On a side note... The off duty suburban officer from marrienette park is 23yrs old and new to that dept. However, he's also in the process of becoming CPD. He's 1/2 through the personnel process. I wonder if this incident will disrupt his hiring to CPD & I wonder if it doesn't will he be assigned to 022? That would be ackward."
Sounds like he'll fit right in.
I hear the MP officer has been launched. Heard that from another MP officer. No word on the guy from 022.
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