Things That Make You Go, "Hmmm"
A question from the readers:
- Is that the same Lisa Madigan, Dean Angelo said Lodge 7 was supporting.
And we delve into the FOP Newsletter archives - Year 2014, November - right at the top of the endorsement list on Page 3:
- General Election Endorsements
Attorney General: *Lisa Madigan (D)
And what does that * mean before her name?
- * Did not appear at the Political Action Committee, were endorsed solely by the Board of Directors
Hmm. We guess if you're running unopposed, it saves on the campaign gas money. But you think they'd show up and at least thank the Board for the endorsement anyway - we mean, if they were decent people and all that.
By the way, anyone know what that (D) means after her name? Someone tried to convince us it means "democrat" but that can't be right - democrats are for unions. And democrats want to save pensions. And democrats wouldn't take an endorsement and then work against the very people who endorsed her, right? Voters aren't stupid...or so we've heard.
Unless of course, the endorsers were just doing the bidding of Daddy Madigan.
By the way, anyone know what that (D) means after her name? Someone tried to convince us it means "democrat" but that can't be right - democrats are for unions. And democrats want to save pensions. And democrats wouldn't take an endorsement and then work against the very people who endorsed her, right? Voters aren't stupid...or so we've heard.
Unless of course, the endorsers were just doing the bidding of Daddy Madigan.
Labels: pension, state politics
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
64 Comments:
She is rapidly becoming nothing more than the partisan hack many suspected her to be.
Lisa is a crime fighter. Her mission is to protect the working stiff. She is death on the big money guys.
This is the same Lisa Madigan who promised editorial boards that one of her main goals as Attorney General would be prosecuted corruption among public officials?
Her word is meaningless, and her allegiance is obviously to party and Boss Madigan before the public or the State Constitution.
We can trust our leaders, they only have our best interests at heart.
Lisa Madigan is choosing to defend her Daddy's pension theft law over the Constitution of the State of Illinois.
It is despicable.
Class of 70 Detectives will be made in JAN 2015. Supt. pushed for 130 detectives and city hall said no way.
I have an idea. Let's piss off Mike Madigan, arguably the most powerful senator in Illinois by not endorsing his daughter, who is running un-opposed. What could possibly go wrong?
Mike Madigan is a Monarch.
The only thing saving us is he doesn’t like Rahm.
Lisa was going to win without our endorsement by a big margin.
Senate Bill 1 was passed just to get politicians thru the election.
Lisa Madigan is the Attorney General.
It’s her job to defend the shit like this.
She is not our friend either.
It is wonderful to make political stands.
But why would you piss off Mike Madigan.
Better to have him indifferent to us.Piss him off he could really screw us.
Had FOP not endorsed her and her daddy went out of his way to f*ck us then everyone would say what the f*ck were they doing? We are in a war to keep what we got. This was the right decision that FOP should have made - granted while holding their noses. I’m not happy with it but I understand why they did it. Endorse the guy who can’t win and then you expect the winner’s father to even talk to us? This is big boy rules we are playing here against some real bastards.
Ferguson shit may spill over to the large urban cities. Be safe and keep an eye out for each other.
From another thread:
The same Lisa that the Donahue crew supported against Joe Birkett even when the committee voted 5-3 to support Birkett and Donahue said that it was just advisory.
Nice try though Bill D.
11/22/2014 06:41:00 PM
"D" for delightful? Darling? In her case more like drab and dreary.
Yes I agree the Chicago FOP should not have endorsed AG Madigan, and I'm disgusted that the state FOP endorsed Quinn, I hope Rauner screws them, however the pension systems are broke in this state and it's entirely the fault of unions and democrats in the general assembly. Unions funding any democrats through "union dues" aka bribes, slush money, etc and the politicians for voting for outrageous pensions and benefits which the state / city can never pay for. Unions are primarily responsible for this crisis and should be punished .
Endorsements mean nothing. Use your own brain and pick the best of two evils. We have all seen in this lat six years who Democrats care for. And it ain't us.
Democrats are all about taking from the middle class and giving to the parasitic leaches that vote for them and keep them in office where the will get a great pension when they eventually retire. They speak of our pensions as some sort of freebe that is hurting the entire country. But giving handouts for votes is ok as long as it is not your money. Now they want to take our money to do this...
The heat is on the dogs who do nothing. In my district some beats have to go down on missions. They get an activity work sheet. If they come in with zeros then they are asked to write a to from. Also their Sgt. are held accountable.
Guys, stop people, write contact cards, write parkers, movers, tvb's, arrests, etc. It isn't that hard. You may think that doesn't deter crime but it does. Even in bad neighborhoods there are decent people.
FOP's PAC supports matt oshea for 19th ward alderman. All the Irish those with clout and merit promotees love this guy. But do your homework on matt. He's voted WITH rahm 100%. Remember that when your family members who are teachers are out of a job. Remember who ram's position is on our pensions. And matt also voted for red light and speed cameras. Hopefully fop will not endorse matt oshea
SCC, I've said it before and I'll say it again. The move to steal our pensions is being fostered, initiated, pushed and approved by the Democratic party in Illlinois. A law designed to reduce our pensions was written by a Democrat, introduced to and approved by a Democratically controlled legislature , approved by a Democratic Governor and when that law is found to be unconstitutional by a judge, appealed yo a higher court by a Democratic Attorney General.
Now tell me who
I should vote for again.
What did you think, that it was all legit? A guy who has been on disability forever, gets some scam type PHD and then gets chosen to be FOP? And you are surprised he backs the status quo dems? Come on, think about it.
And my unit rep is complaining because Rauner got in. I don't here him bitching about Quinn or either Madigan. His and the FOP's mindset is amazing. The department is ran by fools and it looks like the FOP is also. Go figure! Retirement can't come soon enough.
They ain't the only ones. All of labor,Teamsters,SEIU,AFSME, CTU, and worse than Flop the gave her millions. At least Flop didn't give her money. Why didn't the investigative reporter tell us how much money she got. The biggest blame on Labor is not running a viable candidate. That's the story.
Hmmmm Our dues being thrown away
FLOP is just a pyramid scheme for some to make CAPTS pay like range guy ray who doesn't have a clue the Joe Biden VP of lodge 7
OT on meet the press sunday morning discussing Ferguson mayor rudy guliani comments what we should be discussing and concerned with is that crimes committed against black people are done 93% of the time by black people! And immediately another panel member (a black man) tried saying "blacks are harassed by the police"
Mayor rudy guliani please ,please come to Chicago
OT: Kass is at it again.
This guy is not the friend of the police.
Hey John, did the old man deserve to die? Of course not.
Did he deserve to be hit with the beanbag rounds?? Damn right he did.
Go read Pete Nickeas' John, he will show you what a real journalist is.
BTW, nice copy and paste response to "greedisgood".
Hack
How will the downstate judges ruling effect the legislators pensions? What cutbacks or changes were made to their pensions? If we cut the legislators pensions and insisted that they pay something for their healthcare, would they consider their pension was diminished? Hey how many years of service do they need to be vested and how many years until they collect 80% (yes I do believe they get 80%)? One quick way to get relief... Pass a law that you can only collect 1 public pension. 2nd, eliminate sweetheart pension deals for public officials that negotiate a huge pay increase for their last day so they can pension out at a higher pay rate. All public pension rates should be based on same amount of time in service (sorry Mr. or Mrs. Senator 8 years will no longer get you free health care and 80% of your salary). All you pension reform leaders here is your chance to step up and lead.
The fop vote for Lisa Madigan was done one by one. The vote should be on record. From what i hear, this vote was split and Dean Angelo had to break the tie. He voted to endorse Lisa. It's the weekend and I called the oncall officer to get the recorded vote. Ray Cassino called me and said i need to attend the meeting and take notes. I asked if have a could copy the vote and they gave me the runaround.
If you have any time on the Job you remember when Lisa first ran. At that time we, (Chicago Police Officers) were told to endorse her and her Dad would push through legislation to get us an 80% pension like the State Police. We supported her, and they lied, should we be surprised? Lisa is a Left Wing Radical, who spent much time fighting Apartheid in South Africa right after she graduated college. She already turned down an offer to run for V.P., because she feels she will be the first female U.S. President. Lisa believes that Hillary is too old and too Conservative. Consider that carefully; Hillary is too Conservative for Lisa! MARK MY WORDS, LISA HAS AMBITIONS FAR BEYOND ILLINOIS, AND IF YOU THINK OBAMA IS RADICAL; WAIT TILL YOU SEE WHAT LISA WANTS TO DO.
Class of 70 Detectives will be made in JAN 2015. Supt. pushed for 130 detectives and city hall said no way.
This is unbelievable. I took the test and scored fairly well. I have been waiting over 9 years to be promoted. If there is any truth to this posting, I will miss the cut by approximately 15-20 spots. I was a young patrolman when I took this test. Eager and full of hope of becoming a effective and successful detective. Now if, or when I finally get promoted, I will probably accept the position only for the pay raise and the opportunity to leave patrol. Making a difference has flown by the wayside.
Dump Lisa. We only see her when she comes out during an election to say she is 'Fighting For Us'. Baloney.
Maybe Lisa Madigan should do her job and look into how Daley benefitted from that sweet parking rites deal. It's corrupt on its face anyone can see that!!!
I have an idea. Let's piss off Mike Madigan, arguably the most powerful senator in Illinois by not endorsing his daughter, who is running un-opposed. What could possibly go wrong?
11/23/2014 01:28:00 AM
You sure sound like a person of principle. You're so scared to upset someone that you follow like a small child.
Mike Madigan is not her biological father. He married her mother when she was about 9 years old.
Dump Lisa. We only see her when she comes out during an election to say she is 'Fighting For Us'. Baloney.
Anonymous said...
Yes I agree the Chicago FOP should not have endorsed AG Madigan, and I'm disgusted that the state FOP endorsed Quinn, I hope Rauner screws them, however the pension systems are broke in this state and it's entirely the fault of unions and democrats in the general assembly. Unions funding any democrats through "union dues" aka bribes, slush money, etc and the politicians for voting for outrageous pensions and benefits which the state / city can never pay for. Unions are primarily responsible for this crisis and should be punished .
11/23/2014 02:04:00 AM
By the way Bruce wants to do away with pensions and put everyone in a 401k. And he wants to do away with collective bargaining. The state lodge hates Quinn but Bruce in far more of a danger to us.
http://coverthandcuffkey.com/
OT
(D) = Dirtbag
It's a Fraternal Organization with detectives at the helm. No worries.
ballerina boy agrees that chitcawgo should welcome all illegal immigrants
where is flop , pbpa ??
Demand an audit of HOW MUCH it now costs TAX PAyers to educate , provide free school meals , build new schools , law enforcement ppprotection , wic,link , drain on health care facilities , births , operations , paramedic , services be fore ballerina tutu make one cut from current or future first responder pension
cut those freakin alderleaches spots by 30 , they do nada
our unions are silent , we demand action
Daddy? Daddy? I want to be governor , please Daddy?
Anything you want honey, hey how bout attorney general first? After all we want the air of legitimacy, ok darling?
Oh, gee, thanks Daddy.....
More crap.
Everything about this shithole corrupt city, county and state makes me go Hmmmmmmmmm. Now it just makes me sick. Run by complete fools.
She is a hack !
It makes for good drama the welfare vote hates city pensions.
They love free schools,Obama phones and free college.
The minute a working man receives a pension we become villains stealing from the state.
Dean knows nothing about politics and some members on the FOP p.a.c do not even vote in elections! The info is available if you know who to ask. They don't know who you vote for but they do know if you vote!
The name for a person who votes in every election is a super voter.
How did she work against the FOP?
Plus her job is that of protecting the residents of Illinois.
Does that mean that is the FOP endorses the CCSA then she shouldn't prosecute a dirty cop? Hell under your way of thinking every drug dealer and gangbanger would endorse Anita and then be off limits to be prosecuted....ijs
Does this corruption ever stop?
did i miss something or did mr ten g take the week off
Anonymous said...
Lisa Madigan is choosing to defend her Daddy's pension theft law over the Constitution of the State of Illinois.
It is despicable.
11/23/2014 12:38:00 AM
A lower court trial judge declared the law unconstitutional. In order to stand the judges decision must be affirmed by higher court.(s) It could go to the appellate level but in this case, it makes sense to go directly to the Illinois Supreme Court. That is an automatic action really, it will render a final decision on the validity of that state law. I think everybody knew that law would not stand. Any change to pension law must be negotiated or else wait until 2020 when the entire constitution can be opened up to change.
Anonymous said...
I have an idea. Let's piss off Mike Madigan, arguably the most powerful senator in Illinois by not endorsing his daughter, who is running un-opposed. What could possibly go wrong?
11/23/2014 01:28:00 AM
Mike Madigan is not a senator. He is a member of the Illinois House of the General Assembly. In fact, he is Speaker of the House. John Cullerton is President of the State Senate. Did you pass the government class back in 8th grade? Now I imagine that is a college level course. Back in the day Sister Margaret Mary taught it at Holy Mary Mother of God School.
D is for dogass, which the democrats are for.
To 05:40 am, you are a white shirt who has no balls to admit that policing in the style you endorse is a failure. Do you remember when you were wearing a blue shirt, and if you were ever a real officer, you would know and understand that the real way to do police work was to police with no numbers constraints by stiff no balls or brains supervisors like yourself, free to put your hands on people and stop those who really looked dirty, not to just get my quota of contact cards for the period, which you are crying about and trying to put your bent reasoning on us to do. Be a real supervisor, grow some cajoles and tell your boss that numbers are what is killing this department and the more idiot supervisors come around spouting this method the deeper were all going to be in this shit hole.
you are all fools if you think the Rauner is going to bump heads with Madigan and the southside gang of thieves, Lisa Madigan should not hold office while her father controls her, anyone who thinks that she would even conduct any meaningful investigations against any of the Mount Greenwood thieves is just plain STUPI, she is pretty useless, but in 4 years she will be the GOVERNOR.
I was listening to the radio and they were saying how Rahm is saying he didn't raise property taxes this year but all the raises in water costs, amusement tax, and other fees amounts to the equivalent of a 60% raise in property tax. So again he is pulling his don't look at the man behind the curtain routine again. Sad thing is most of the sheep won't notice his robbing you while telling you he is looking out for you. By all means vote him in again.
Dump Lisa.
NO just DUMP FLOP
Leroy O'Shield--
CAPTS pay like range guy ray who doesn't have a clue the Joe Biden VP of lodge 7
Right Ray's answer to National guard questions is based upon his marine enlisted time over 15 years ago
guy never served in the ng or resv and is unqualified to give a out advise on the contract
Hey Ray go back to running for election as republican committeeman
Weren't the democrats in charge all along when our pensions were continually underfunded? Now lets endorse them with the goal of getting them re-elected to fix that which they broke. You gotta love that FOP.
Lisa is a crime fighter. Her mission is to protect the working stiff. She is death on the big money guys.
Shut up, Mike. Don't you have a pensioner to rob somewhere?
Do you really see a problem with a very shady top guy legislator promoting his daughter to the highest law enforcement position? After all, Lisa Lisa can prosecute at her discretion daddy's political rivals or on daddy's whims while he flexes his muscles from within the family in two of three branches of state government. And lets suppose that an investigation of public official criminals had to first be approved by daddy. No conflict of interest here.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Class of 70 Detectives will be made in JAN 2015. Supt. pushed for 130 detectives and city hall said no way.
This is unbelievable. I took the test and scored fairly well. I have been waiting over 9 years to be promoted. If there is any truth to this posting, I will miss the cut by approximately 15-20 spots. I was a young patrolman when I took this test. Eager and full of hope of becoming a effective and successful detective. Now if, or when I finally get promoted, I will probably accept the position only for the pay raise and the opportunity to leave patrol. Making a difference has flown by the wayside.
11/23/2014 11:47:00 AM
Considering retirements, promotions and deaths, you'll probably get it, so congratulations.
Please reconsider your viewpoint. When you get there, you - yes, you - can choose whether to be a useless dog or a detective who uses the spot to help some (not all) of the victims you encounter.
Your choice, your chance to do a little something of value.
"I was a young patrolman when I took this test. Eager and full of hope of becoming a effective and successful detective. Now if, or when I finally get promoted, I will probably accept the position only for the pay raise and the opportunity to leave patrol."
Well you have gained wisdom throughout your tenure. It's a bump in pay & your ticket out of Patrol. Nothing More.
A must watch. Sheriff calls out Eric Holder.
Sheriff Clarke ~ Irresponsible Groups Descended on Ferguson MO Like Vultures on a Roadside Carcass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=HMQCFqgAGyM&app=desktop
Anonymous said...
Do you really see a problem with a very shady top guy legislator promoting his daughter to the highest law enforcement position? After all, Lisa Lisa can prosecute at her discretion daddy's political rivals or on daddy's whims while he flexes his muscles from within the family in two of three branches of state government. And lets suppose that an investigation of public official criminals had to first be approved by daddy. No conflict of interest here.
11/23/2014 08:24:00 PM
Of course there is a problem. But the nitwits that pass for voters elect this shit to office. They vote her into statewide office! Don't blame daddy for trying, blame the voters for doing! And also blame the two thirds of voters who stay away from the polls come election day.
Not that obama has made so many mexicans legal residents, maybe he can give them the right to vote. They that can do just one more job that most Americans don't want to do: Vote.
Watch fop endorse Mary Oconnor in the 41st ward over Anthony Napolitano. Naps was a copper from 15 and now with CFD. His brother Andy and father are or were CPD. His uncle Tommy was in 14. He will have our interests at heart, not like Oconnor, who has no Use for the Police. Call and email fop and demand that Naps be endorsed in the ward with more CPD and CFD in the city. Oconnor is Rhams puppet and does as she's told!! Support Naps in 41, it's a start to make it a conservative ward again..
"...Lisa is a crime fighter..."
Please report to Random Drug Testing, 3510 S, Michigan Ave.
Anonymous said...
Dump Lisa.
NO just DUMP FLOP
11/23/2014 07:58:00 PM
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And of course put you in charge?
Anonymous said...
Watch fop endorse Mary Oconnor in the 41st ward over Anthony Napolitano. Naps was a copper from 15 and now with CFD. His brother Andy and father are or were CPD. His uncle Tommy was in 14. He will have our interests at heart, not like Oconnor, who has no Use for the Police. Call and email fop and demand that Naps be endorsed in the ward with more CPD and CFD in the city. Oconnor is Rhams puppet and does as she's told!! Support Naps in 41, it's a start to make it a conservative ward again..
11/24/2014 03:41:00 AM
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Thanks for your input Andy.
1. FOP will never endorse O'Connor.
2. Who ever posted the above post- if not you - did you a disservice. Coppers don't like self serving egotists.
3. YOU have to be electable or my advise is to not make any endorsement in the election.
Boys and girls it's time get off our asses. If the above copper is qualified and not just another guy with a big ego we have to go out and work for him!
Question what if two coppers are running for the same office? We pick the best candidate right? that's how we should judge every race.
I worked w/ Tony Napolitano & he was the "real police". if you have friends in 41st Ward ask them to vote for Napolitano. Call FOP & ask that they endorse Tony instead of a hack.
If you live in 38th Ward consider voting for Jerry Paszek, a Sgt w/ Forest Preserve PD.
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