Rauner Hoping for "Guidance"
- Making his first post-election appearance at the Capitol on Thursday, Gov.-elect Bruce Rauner said he hopes the Illinois Supreme Court eventually will provide guidance on what changes are acceptable when it comes to fixing the state's more than $100 billion debt in the government worker pension system.
The incoming governor may get some clues as early as Friday, when a lower court judge is expected to weigh in on the legality of a sweeping overhaul lawmakers approved nearly a year ago. The ruling by Sangamon County Circuit Judge John Belz could provide an early indication of whether the pension law violates a provision in the state constitution that prevents public employee pensions from being diminished or impaired, as unions have argued.
This is going to be litigated out the ass regardless. How about throwing together some austerity measures for state government and making sure Chicago pays its bills for starters?
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
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He asked Quinn to implement a hiring freeze for the next two months. Quinn refused.
Sounds like all the governor can do is a massive RIF of existing government employees. Start with the ones close to retirement.
He hasn't even started yet, and he is already covering his ass like a professional politician.
Stick that finger in the air, and feel the breeze!
He gets that guidance from Rahm. The country might have told the socialist democrats to go fuck themselves, but this dumb fuck city and state sure didn't.
drop all entitlements till pensions are shored up!!
Hopefully Rauner can attract business to Illinois that will add to the tax base.
Anybody know what pension boards are involved with any challenges to the pension changes?Chicago Laborers and Municipal don't even know whats going on when you call for info. Does the police and fire pension board know or care?
Question to the (mostly) police who write on this blog.
You all seem to be staunch Republicans, which of course, is your choice.
You all have pensions and will rely on them when you retire. Don’t you know that Republicans HATE unions and paying pensions….and especially, they hate public pensions, and treat cops/firemen/teachers as if you are thieves?
For example, in Indiana, Republicans want to decimate the school system, fire teachers and hire “educators.” (My sister is a teacher in Indiana and it’s terrible what’s happening there.) They don’t want to pay for (union) teachers, and the tiny pension they will draw when they retire, so they are hell-bent on destroying the entire public education system and dumbing down kids who can't afford to go to private schools.
Anyway….I’m just curious how a population (of cops) who rely on a pension system – and a public pension system at that – can vote Republican. And I’m not saying that Democrats are wonderful either. Like my Mom always said, “It’s like voting for the lesser of two evils.” At least the Dems “pretend” that they care about the common man & support unions. Republicans are very vocal on how they want to destroy the common man and have been blatantly clear how they feel about the “thieving” public unions.
If anyone could explain why union folks vote Republican, I would appreciate it. My comments above are not intended to incite anger….and I respectfully submit this contribution to the SSC blog. I also want to thank whomever hosts this blog. It’s not only informative and entertaining, it’s also a great public service, and I thank you for this important contribution.
Thank you to all the men & women in BLUE!!! Love ya!
Any chance of a Recall on Obama's whore, Dick Durbin. He only won a couple of counties (including Crook County)
If you think you are going to get a pension then think again. We are fucked. Not just us but most working Americans as a whole. Retirement is your responsibility and if you saved enough fine. If you didn't save enough then don't count on your pension. The government and politicians have money to bail out their friends, but not us. Sorry, but I will tell it like it is.
Whats with the Lt in 22 Reynolds. Guy is an asshat, could give 2 shits about anyone that works the park extra or is a patrolman. You have to be dropped off in the park , he wont let you take a car. He is a rude arrogant POS. Forgets where he comes from. Then there is the bearded guy who must be blowing him that's like a Nazi Puppet. Nowhere else in the city is like this. Both of you are POS go fuck yourselves!
The only people that are going to see "austerity measures" from Governor Rauner are the employees.
1.) North Shore crowd comes first...
2.) Outfit comes second...
3.) Corey Brooks, James Meeks, Bo Jangles, et al.. come third...
4.) Fuck the employees!
This is the current model of corporatism practiced in the US, get used to it.
...and for all you "free market conservative" cops who never worked a day in the private sector, welcome to the work force when you turn 63!
All the judges are getting the wink and nod now. Just a little meeting with the powers to be and then the nod.
I think it is a wise decision. Look before you leap. Know the rules so you won't end up on the wrong end of litigation. But even better it's refreshing to have a politician interested in the limits of his office rather than just so what he wants regardless. Like King Barry.
He wants guidance because he wants to know exactly how far up our ass he can stick it. All you Rauner voters out there on this blog, please enlighten us to what Rauners solution was for the pension crisis. (We know what Quinn s was. Do nothing and make rahm pay his bills. Rahm has pushed payments back to next year hoping ole boy will screw us state wide and rahm cant be blamed). Rauner didn't tell us his plan because your assholes would hit pucker factor 10! Enjoy the folks (or people):-)
+++++ 'Attorney General Lisa Madigan's office has defended the law, arguing the contract between the state and its workers could be modified in times of emergency....' +++++
Oh really Lisa, and WHERE is that stated in the IL Constitution, huh? Never mind Lisa, here's the answer...NOWHERE! There is no 'oops clause' you moron! The only... ONLY... way to modify it is to amend the IL Constitution.
(My God, where do these certifiable morons get their law degrees at? Joe's Lawn Service and Law School? Dammit to hell....)
The wife called ISP while driving on the JFK last night for a obviously impaired (or just a shitty) driver. After describing the car, the call taker said. "Both troopers on the expressways are tied up". BOTH?? WTF?? 2 for the 6 interstates?? Quinn really fucked over the taxpayers (the makers) in favor of the takers
The democrats think that austerity is a country near Germany.
No keeses for them.
He just got some. News Alert from the Fibune:
Landmark state pension law struck down by Springfield judge
A Springfield judge on Friday struck down a landmark state law aimed at fixing Illinois’ worst-in-the-nation $100 billion government worker pension system, putting a union-led legal challenge on track for a likely showdown in the Illinois Supreme Court.
There will be an end of year, last minute promotions at the ISP before the end of the year. That will reveal the Quinn suckoffs.
The judge ruled in favor of the unions.
The emergency the state is claiming is one of their own making over the last 30 years or so.
Fuck the lying, thieving politicians. Put the required monies into the pension funds like they should've been doing all along.
o/t....landmark pension reform law struck down by a judge as unconstitutional....
Sounds like all the governor can do is a massive RIF of existing government employees. Start with the ones close to retirement.
11/21/2014 12:58:00 AM
You are an ass hat of the highest order.
GFY!
FOP website says Court threw out the state pension Bill as unconstitutional
Anonymous said...
Any chance of a Recall on Obama's whore, Dick Durbin. He only won a couple of counties (including Crook County)
11/21/2014 08:15:00 AM
Didn't realize you became a senator by winning counties. I thought it was by winning the popular vote. My point is you can't recall a senator on the grounds of the number of counties he won
Gov-elect Rauner.
How's about you reinstate the death penalty, especially against convicted cop haters like Officer Wortham's killers?
Those that his astute father, who, even though shocked at their heinous treatment of his son, was able to swiftly (and correctly) carry out the death sentence on two of the four G---damned asswipes, may they rot in hell and soon!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
All the judges are getting the wink and nod now. Just a little meeting with the powers to be and then the nod.
11/21/2014 09:35:00 AM
It'll be interesting. Might not be so easy to deny the guarantees of the State Constitution.
btw - The phrase is 'the powers THAT be', not 'the powers TO be'.
Gov.-elect Bruce Rauner said he hopes the Illinois Supreme Court eventually will provide guidance on what changes are acceptable when it comes to fixing the state's more than $100 billion debt in the government worker pension system.
Guidance? Here's some guidance. Make sure the State pays it's part when it comes due. Oh, and while you are at it, stop with the pension holidays.
I wonder how my bank would react if I told them I was taking a couple of "mortgage" holidays?
Anonymous said...
The wife called ISP while driving on the JFK last night for a obviously impaired (or just a shitty) driver. After describing the car, the call taker said. "Both troopers on the expressways are tied up". BOTH?? WTF?? 2 for the 6 interstates?? Quinn really fucked over the taxpayers (the makers) in favor of the takers
11/21/2014 10:30:00 AM
Quinn? Hiram Grau (former CPD) is Director of ISP. Quinn didn't stop Grau from putting his daughter in a nice state job. You really think Quinn ordered only two ISP cars on patrol on Chicago area expressways? I have a bridge to sell you.
For all of you getting on the UBER bandwagon and using the service, congratulations, your making RAHMS family richer, he has a stake in the company big time, why do you think it was rammed down CHICAGOS throat so fast? Find a friend or co worker to help you out if your out drinking, any boss in the districts would send a car for you or have a car on standby at a watch party etc. if we were organized we would be deadly I swear.
Rauner called Obama's immigtation order a "great start." This guy is going to be a real goof. he surrounded himself with liberal fools right away and now he talks like a Chicago democrat. I dread the gifts he will be giving rahm.
Rauner backing off the repeal of the 66% tax hike that was supposed to sunset on 31Dec......Rahm's butt buddy is a fickin liar
Yes welcome to Chicago expressways. That's the do more with a lot less ISP.
Not less staff officers or house mice. Just less on the roads....
State politicians just don't want to pay their bills.
Here is guidance. Pay what you owe into the pension system. You can't cut anything....
+++++ 'Attorney General Lisa Madigan's office has defended the law, arguing the contract between the state and its workers could be modified in times of emergency....' +++++
Oh really Lisa, and WHERE is that stated in the IL Constitution, huh? Never mind Lisa, here's the answer...NOWHERE! There is no 'oops clause' you moron! The only... ONLY... way to modify it is to amend the IL Constitution.
(My God, where do these certifiable morons get their law degrees at? Joe's Lawn Service and Law School? Dammit to hell....)
This is like the jagbag boss who tells us the General Orders are just guidelines.
Anonymous said...
Rauner called Obama's immigtation order a "great start." This guy is going to be a real goof. he surrounded himself with liberal fools right away and now he talks like a Chicago democrat. I dread the gifts he will be giving rahm.
11/21/2014 07:28:00 PM
What? I thought everybody voted for Rauner because he was a Republican successful and prosperous businessman! He's not even sworn in and already some have changed their minds? It's going to be a long 4 years.
Anyway, don't blame me, I voted for Quinn, albeit holding my nose, but you knew what you had with Quinn. Rauner is phony baloney.
I laugh when they declare this "an emergency."
The definition of an emergency is: "a serious, unexpected, and often dangerous situation requiring immediate action."
The key word is "unexpected". We respond everyday to emergencies as cops. None of the shit we go to is foreseen years out. It's always last minute "Oh, my call, call the cops now." That is an emergency. Having the money and not setting aside for an event and creating your own chaos is NOT an emergency. This was "self-created" problem by the state and all you politicians who continue to NOT do your responsible obligation with our tax dollars; this is not an emergency. Getting $100 billion in the red is not something unforeseen. So Lisa Madigan this is NOT an emergency so stop acting like it is. Politicians kept putting off and kicking the can down the road and now it's time to pay up. Quit acting like it's an unforeseen emergency. Each and every year politicians knew the financial condition and what they were doing so stop with the "I inherited this mess" crap. You ran for office, you knew ahead of time and now deal with it. Taxes should have been gradually raised over the years but they weren't; no doing that is lack of planning--not an emergency. Quit pissing money away and be accountable to the people who worked under a promise for their whole adult life especially first responders. When I signed up for this job the only reason, and I do mean the only reason I signed up was for a pension. Granted this law does NOT affect CPD/CFD but I am sure we are next and it's the same idea; a promise was made to state and city workers. Tell the next crew there will be no pension or a reduction. If they sign up then so be it. Quit with the damn nonsense already Lisa M and others and own up and quit pissing money away.
Rauner is without a clue!
Rauner called Obama's immigtation order a "great start." This guy is going to be a real goof. he surrounded himself with liberal fools right away and now he talks like a Chicago democrat. I dread the gifts he will be giving rahm.
11/21/2014 07:28:00 PM
What? I thought everybody voted for Rauner because he was a Republican successful and prosperous businessman! He's not even sworn in and already some have changed their minds? It's going to be a long 4 years.
Anyway, don't blame me, I voted for Quinn, albeit holding my nose, but you knew what you had with Quinn. Rauner is phony baloney.
11/22/2014 02:19:00 AM
He is a what? A phony baloney, How can a phony balony be a successful and prosperous businessman? A phony balony,I'm still laughing
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