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Yeah, we saw it.
Sure, you all did, too.
If you didn't, you can find it.
Shit happens - we aren't going to defend it.
He'll take his hit like anyone else.
Unless he's connected.
Sure, you all did, too.
If you didn't, you can find it.
Shit happens - we aren't going to defend it.
He'll take his hit like anyone else.
Unless he's connected.
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:29 AM
82 Comments:
To: Commanding Officer
From. Alledged sleeping guy
Subject: Video
1. R/O was not sleeping on duty.
2. R/O, recognizing certain members of the public are trying to bait law enforcement officers with video cameras, merely ignored the said videographers.
Fuck it. He was catching a few zzzzz's. Next time, find a more remote spot. Leave him alone.
And no, I don't know him.
If your that tired, take time due,, if unable then hit the medical. A dog is a dog. I'm sure this isn't the first or only time he does this. Every district has its share of this type of activity. I for one am glad the public is watching us for that reason alone. I hope it helps brings back the old "an honest day's work for an honest day's pay". For those of you willing to defend this type of action, hope this isn't the person who has to come to your assistance if you need help, or this is the person designated to respond to or prevent a crime against your family.
I think your post about covers it, scc, but some fool will try to post about this guy's personal business, anyway. People just can't leave anything alone.
I want to chime in on the video and this will be a little long so I apologize in advance but hopefully worth the read. Like so many politicians would do, we can’t let this opportunity go to waste. President Angelo feel free to take any of these thoughts and run with them as you see fit and Officer I don’t know you or the circumstances that lead to your being caught on that video, and thank God that’s all that happened that day, so please don’t take any of this as passing judgement on you, we’ve all been there.
First and foremost, get in front of this, the sooner the better. Start with an FOP press conference with the officer and in no particular order, the officer needs to apologize and I mean a sincere apology, not the type that starts with, “I’m sorry if”… If it were me I’d say something to the effect of, “I’m sorry for having fallen asleep while I should have been doing my job. There are plenty of reasons but no excuse for what happened that day. I had worked voluntary special employment overtime the (night, 2 nights, however long before) or my side job, etc… (This next part if true can be indicated) and I requested time off but it was denied. Regardless of that being part of it or not, then go on to outline the number of days in a row you have to work and/or are denied additional time off.
This next part will take the wind out of the sails of the videographer for lack of a better word. “I want to thank the individual who captured that video and brought to my attention the danger I placed myself, the community and my fellow officers in. Had a person with ill intentions wanted to take advantage of that situation I might not be here to talk to you today. While I know there will be some sort of discipline in this matter, I trust it will be in line with what occurred” (Rahm was practically foaming at the mouth at his press conference where he said he doesn’t want to skew the investigation by talking about the video so you know he’s asking for the most punishment possible to make a point.)
to be continued.....
part two....
Now is when Dean steps in and stands strongly to address the bigger picture and what leads to many officers working exhausted and what steps we will be taking and the city needs to take. “We are nowhere near our budgeted strength and until the city takes steps to achieve that this trend will continue and here is why. A) Officers are continually denied additional time off that they have earned because there are not enough officers remaining to fill the beats and it doesn’t matter how many days in a row they worked, their supervisors stand their ground on this issue time and time again. B) Due to the shortages the city offers many special voluntary work opportunities knowing that officers cannot afford to not work them, thereby having officers work between 6 and 7 days per week.”
Solution: Hire the number of officers that will bring us to the budgeted amount. This will eliminate the need for these overtime initiatives thereby ending the $95 Million in overtime expenses, making part of that money available toward the looming pension obligation. At the same time you will increase the number of personnel contributing towards their pensions again shoring up the money in those funds. This will also free up a day or two per month for these officers to get the rest they need to be effective in their jobs increasing the safety for everyone in the city.
What we will be doing: We have consulted with our attorneys and since this is a VOLUNTARY work opportunity, this will not be a job action, and in fact is going to be informational picketing so everyone can learn the danger of the current trend. The first Friday or Saturday (or pick any day) of each month we will not have any officers working these voluntary work opportunities, instead we will have informational picketing at the locations where they would have reported for roll call, including Mass Transit, Public Housing and VRI. Once the public sees the number of officers required to backfill these vacant positions and sees the number of vehicles sitting idle rather than patrolling perhaps they will be able to pressure the politicians into hiring the officers they have been paying for in their taxes. Now Dean this will require chutzpah on your part and I’d suggest you get the Sgt’s and Lt’s unions on board because with no supervisors even any scabs couldn’t work it. The added bonus of the informational picketers being in place is anyone that thinks they might seize the opportunity to get a day of special their seniority wouldn’t normally afford them would literally have to cross the line. The union will have to offer busses to the locations to have any chance of this working.
Next, (Oh this part will bring out the whiners big time) I am asking every member of the CPD to contribute $1, no more, no less to a special fund we are going to maintain for officer X to get the allotted amount he would’ve gotten at the voluntary work opportunities over the next several months. We will distribute to him $X per month to offset the lost wages he would’ve earned to make sure his family doesn’t suffer any more time away from him and he gets the proper rest he needs. ( No, we’re not rewarding him or giving him a play, we’re displaying solidarity!)
Okay, I know this is all a pipe dream, but man, wouldn’t it be nice if it could come together this way?
It happens. He won't lose his job. He should only get a reprimand but now it's a big deal they will make him a quick offer of 5-7 days. Hey, enjoy the time off. It will hurt for one paycheck but who cares... After all is said and done you will still have a job.
He who has Never fell asleep /dosed off at ANY job or meeting should "cast the first stone."
Mediate it quickly for a five day hit and let it go away. The department can announce by Monday that he was suspended without pay for one week. done!!!
This is OK
https://www.yahoo.com/health/doctors-are-posting-pictures-of-themselves-asleep-119471702867.html
But for CPD its a big scandal in the ghetto
How connected was that CTA Train Operator who fell asleep at the controls and crashed at O'Hare?
The NTSB said it was the CTA's fault that happened because of bad scheduling which didn't give her enough time off to rest. So she will collect $$$$.
How much Time Due are we denied and what are the results?
Looks like a case of undiagnosed sleep apnea to me. Thank goodness this incident has alerted him to his illness so that he may now seek treatment for his previously undiagnosed and unknown condition and his disease can be managed with a cpap machine.
He should be reasonably accommodated under the ADA by being allowed to receive his treatment and not be punished for exhibiting symptoms of his undiagnosed medical condition while at work.
I saw a young man who did not have his feet propped up, had sunglasses on his face during the daytime (most reasonable), did not have any pillows or other supportive device that would be indicative of an individual who intended to take a nap, and who's body was otherwise erect, hence he was overcome by his illness.
The man's symptoms reared their head during working hours and now that he is aware of them, he should be allowed to seek treatment in peace.
Get well officer. Sleep apnea is a very dangerous condition if left untreated.
Thank you to the citizen for making you aware of the symptoms of your illness so that you may now receive the treatment you need.
I can't say I've never done it and I don't think many coppers can say they haven't either so I'm not gonna throw stones.
The guy was overworked from VRI and CTA.
It's Rahm's fault.
No defense here.
I still find it amazing that with all of the cell phone cameras out there, pooky never has video of shootings, robberies, etc. Only video of the poleeeece.
Damn! I had the video forwarded to me 6 time!
Could you imagine if his IPAD was on streaming porn!
The public loves to harass "DA" police be careful.
It sucks working the Beat.
It's not his fault, it's GM's for making those damn Tahoe seats so fucking comfortable.
When you wake up just bless yourself with the sign of the cross. You were never sleeping, only praying.
Yawn, let's move on.
I think this is unfair of the press and another example of police bashing. Police represent the "community." As such we have the same human trials and tribulations that everyone else does. Nights we can't get to sleep worrying about bills or the kids grades, working OT, babies crying in the middle of the night, etc. Everyone has times they have nodded off at work, including reporters. The thing for police is that this type of thing can be dangerous. There are people who would love to hurt or kill a police officer. So, this is dangerous behavior for the police officer. IF, McJerk really cared about us, what he would do is ask the officer if everything was ok at home and elsewhere, and if not have the officer talk to EAP. Maybe he was sick and came in anyway. If everything is ok, remind how dangerous it is to be out there by yourself in a target asleep. Discipline is used to change a persons behavior. I think this officer gets it, I would given him a written reprimand and that's it.
I couldn't tell he was sleeping in that video. It looked like he was just ignoring a typical annoying shit head from the hood.
The mayor even commented, this is nothing more than a verbal reprimand but you know with the "war on police" from the government media complex, and how the bosses treat us they could make it something more! A thug tapes police it goes viral leads the news innocence getting mowed down daily not real news!
Not defending the officer, but lets not rush to judgement. Maybe there is a medical condition(low blood sugar, drop in blood pressure, diabetes, or some other condition.) Just be glad that the person standing next to his squad car had a camera in is hand and not a gun. Be safe out there.
What happened? What are you talking about SCC? I was sleeping. Must have missed it.
Kaner!!
Everyone one has done it at some point, but in broad daylight, on a busy street, 99? All I'll say is thank God the kid with the camera only wanted to embarrass him and wasn't some Isis wannabe. Between gangbangers, terrorists, mentals and radicals there's no shortage of people who would love to take one of us out, don't make it easy for these assholes. Stay safe
Sometime shit...or sleep... happens. I worked first watch for well more than half of my career. Sometimes you doze off at red lights and stop signs. Not intentional, just sometimes happens. Sleeping in a hole is another matter. Intentionally sleeping in public view, especially in the ghetto, is just plain stupid if not suicidal.
Maybe it's time to call in sick..Too much court, can't take a day off,staying late on a late arrest..
"Whatch y'all doin! We be killing each other en shit. You got to stops dat!"
Police are humans too. Of course there is the shit head interview calling for him to be fired. Shequita doesn't like it cuz all da trildrens bees gettin kild-ed-ed.
Yes, he should be disciplined just for the simple fact he put his own life in danger.
The old standard joke was to then say"Amen" loudly before opening your eyes and responding to whomever was tapping on your window.
On a more serious note,it's dangerous as HELL!
He's lucky to be alive , 63rd & Campbell you need eyes in back of your head . he could be fired , that's the rumor downtown , rtahmmie is pissed , blame the sleeping police for 2 dead and 49 wounded
I can't throw stones. I was in his position many times. Court, kids, side job. He dozed off for several minutes, then a police hating welfare mut taped him.
I seen worse scammers. Much worse: Medical abusers to the highest degree, Combine insurance scammers that hit the ER for everything so they could get "paid". IOD for 8 months for a very minor traffic crash. Disability for a sprained index finger.... the list goes on. This is minor stuff.
He just thought he'd try being a fireman for a day.
He was just following orders to stand down. You will receive less time for doing nothing than doing something. The new era of city policing. Now give me an event number!
If you can't find a hole to crawl into for a little bit to reenergize, then you need to stay awake for your own safety. Thankfully, this guy recording didn't point a pistol at him instead of a camera.
We've all done it before,but damn he couldn't of picked a worse spot,I know him,he's a good guy,sure he will take a few days
Not as bad as the ghetto rat walking into a CPD facility, signing out a car ,ticket book and proceed to do police work....ha ha ha...but it's humorous none the less....keep up the good work CPD...
Dude has had to sit there at that spot every day for 6 weeks at the D/C's request. Great cop bored to death, we've been trained to hunt and react, we've been trained to move. With all the documented threats against law enforcement and to have him assigned to that is an outrage. It's a horrible safety issue that our chicken shit Union will never address. Dumping the FOP is now on the front burner
You will see more of this as the 10.5 hr day is shoved down our throats.
Blue Lives Matter.
Police Are People Too...
The War Against The Police
continues.
Been on 29 years worked with many coppers how many never dozed for a little bit? In 3-2-1 crickets! Thought so, will admit since it went viral mayor commenting (rahms cannot comment about funding pensions,and dean sorry deans sleeping as always say something dean hello dean), the mayor should do nothing give the copper verbal reprimand or worse case scenario a day, move on nothing to see here!!
They have ghetto free wi-fi maybe a connection?
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/05/20/sick-from-wifi/
Just listened to wls890 radio news the lead story was about this, wow no news to lead with children getting shot, police short handed, taxes rising but this leads! The media frenzy of anti-police "bash the police" for every minor thing is really out of control! Remember the media is not our friend ever!
Superintendent to stop this announce the officer is getting a written reprimand and will be admonished to not do this, that would end it punishment metered out properly anything else done to this officer would be crossing the line of disciplinary actions!
"He's lucky to be alive, 63rd & Campbell you need eyes in back of your head."
5/21/2015 10:40:00 AM
Nobody would pick that spot to coop. Guy just konked out for a few. Hosing blood off the rest of the city, they make a federal case about this nothing.
"The NTSB said it was the CTA's fault that happened because of bad scheduling which didn't give her enough time off to rest. So she will collect $$$$."
5/21/2015 03:28:00 AM
Way I heard it, she chose to use her available rest time to "play sports" (home plate?) instead of resting, then went back in to work. City's fault, of course.
Thank God she didn't do this during a heavy rush hour...
give him a day or two off and be done with it.
just about everyone has dozed off at work at some point.
not a cop
We all have done it! Next time find a better spot!
I still find it amazing that with all of the cell phone cameras out there, pooky never has video of shootings, robberies, etc. Only video of the poleeeece.
5/21/2015 06:38:00 AM
That's because pookie must make it harder than police do at being caught. Out in the open like that.....come on. There is no defense. Until police start cracking down on each other, don't moan about being over worked and short staffed. Call out the dogs and make them do their share. This will in part help alleviate the "shortage of manpower". Until then, quick defending and trying to explain this behavior. We all know this isn't the only type of abuse on this job. Medical abuse is part of our shortage problem. If this were the private sector, our work force would be cut in half and people would be held accountable.
hey ss i did mid nights n before that air force security police 6am to 6pm but serously days in 008 its got to hopping , when i did dose off it was because it was dead no calls, but i hope the PO doesnt get jammed up.
I think that guys the wrong job. He should have applied to be a fireman.
OT- haha . Hey 3rd watch in 017 - Enjoy that asshat of a micromanaging, thinks he knows it all, ride on every one of your jobs, hat wearing while he is driving sgt. He demands respect ! Dontcha know ? Or he will get a CR number in you ! We are dancing for joy he is gone . Hated by all .
Girl I dated, her dad was a retired CPD copper, she told me that him and his partner, when they were on the overnight shifts, would find out of the way places to catch a nap.
She said he told her it was some of the best sleep he ever got. Kind of like that last season of The Wire when McNulty and Freeman are looking for bodies to stage as fake homicides and they go through some old timer, who was introduced in the series when they walked up to his patrol car and woke him up. lol
Dangerous. I know it happens but it's good the kid had a camera and not a gun.
now that's what you call putting the blinders on , see no evil , speak no evil , hear no evil
63 and Campbell , once crime free
wtf happened to that neighborhood
Englewood west
Is the officer on the new and improved 10 hour day?
seen worse scammers. Much worse: Medical abusers to the highest degree, Combine insurance scammers that hit the ER for everything so they could get "paid". IOD for 8 months for a very minor traffic crash. Disability for a sprained index finger.... the list goes on. This is minor stuff.
5/21/2015 10:56:00 AM
Yeah most of the scammers are at 311. All the IOD dogs that never did an ounce of work while they were on the street and found an opportunity to get off the street. We have one queen on 1st watch down there that's an expert on medical usage and the art of staying IOD. She's constantly giving sage advice to anyone who'll listen. Disgusting!
He supposed to be protecting us!
We pays our taxes and he be sleepin' while our childrens gettin' shot down! This ain't right!
Good Luck Officer
It will be worse when the 10.5 hour workday goes citywide.
I use to tell P.O.s on midnights how to safely (fill-in-the-blank) on that shift.
Don't be hidden in a deep dark hole. Be in the middle of an empty well lit parking lot with limited access and turn your car toward that access.
Sit straight up in your seat and turn up your radio. If possible let someone know where you are and watch your back. Practice moving your head back and forth and seem to be reading something in your lap. Do not put the interior lights on with the windows rolled up as you won’t be able to see outside.
Stay Safe. I always kept a couple of chocolate bars in my kit for quick energy. But that was in the days before these newfangled "energy tonics".
2 days Summary Punishment. Can't be grieved. No need for an investigation. There are bigger fish to fry.
I wonder if Ol Boy was using his Obama Phone to tape the dozing officer. Why wasn't Ol Boy at work.♠️
Crucifying him in the media lead stories on many stations! This is a non-issue what if he was awake just avoiding the thug? He had sunglasses on, and if he closed his eyes for a minute so what? Bring him in office tell him bad boy don't do that again nothing more nonsense go after the police for every Non-issue!
I'll say this. ..his uniform looked very clean
Summer is right around the corner ! Time for the usual medical or worse fake IOD bullshit to start. Same people over and over. Hurt back, foot , wrist - pleeease!!! At least this poor tired officer was at work ! Probably can't get time off due to all the DOGS on this department !
The hands up don't shoot crowd should be glad for sleeping cops. Less chance they will be hassled in their criminal enterprises.
He was not sleeping, just ignoring the asshole with the IPhone.
I think it was wrong of that citizen to interrupt that Police Officer as he was taking a moment to pray.
There was a elderly judge in traffic court last year who would ROUTINELY fall asleep DURING TRIALS! Then he would rule on the trials. He was the head judge in traffic (can't think of his name). Nothing ever happened to him.
He didn't sleep for 8.5 hours. Medical /IOD abusers aren't questioned. Some are off for months with BS ailments. But come to work and doze off for a few minutes and it's national news.
The video illustrates what will happen to me with the implementation of the 10 hour day.
Prove it! Thats right, prove that he was asleep. As a previous poster pointed out, sunglasses on, upright body and head position, etc. Anyone hear snoring, see his eyes closed? I've ignored those shitheads in much the same fashion, as if they didnt exist and looked right thru them cause I knew it pissed them off. Unless he was hooked up to a sleep study monitor I'd tell them to fuck off, I was wide awake, just ignoring another useless unemployed bust out who was trying to fuck with my inner peace. Really, what copper would doze off at 63 and campbell in broad daylite? Answer NO ONE! Prove it boss.
Does the guy with the camera have a job to go to or, is he one of the people that gets to cast stones about goofing off while at work when he never has a job.
Funny how this grabbed headlines for a couple of days, but the county worker asleep at her desk wrapped in a blanket, fell to the wasteside. Typical
Maybe coppers in this neighborhood should buy some GoPro cameras on their own, and video some of the behavior they see on a daily basis in this area
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Then post it on a dedicated you tube channel.
I bet you wouldn't see it on the news.
Dude has had to sit there at that spot every day for 6 weeks at the D/C's request. Great cop bored to death, we've been trained to hunt and react, we've been trained to move. With all the documented threats against law enforcement and to have him assigned to that is an outrage. It's a horrible safety issue that our chicken shit Union will never address. Dumping the FOP is now on the front burner
No one has ever said you have to stay in your car on these BS missions. How about getting out of the car and do the ol "walk n talk" - - it's in the middle of a business strip - most cops on these bs missions - both 1 and 2 man cars prefer to just sit in the car - Or he can always lock someone up - call for another car and go in w//arrest. Not hard to find at that location. Plenty to do other than be bored.
OT ...OT- haha . Hey 3rd watch in 017 - Enjoy that asshat of a micromanaging, thinks he knows it all, ride on every one of your jobs, hat wearing while he is driving sgt. He demands respect ! Dontcha know ? Or he will get a CR number in you ! We are dancing for joy he is gone . Hated by all .
Wow! Sounds like it was personal. Perhaps every time he wanted to log you it was the usual crickets on the radio. It's actually pretty simple be where you are suppose to be and answer up when they call you. Simple for some people, but so earth shattering for others.
That's nothing you wouldn't see at the average firehouse.
Just heard he got 5 days. Count your blessings office. You could have wound up with a bullet or two in your head while sleeping.
FIVE DAYS WITHOUT PAY????
Can anyone say excessive?
Looks like a case of undiagnosed sleep apnea to me. Thank goodness this incident has alerted him to his illness so that he may now seek treatment for his previously undiagnosed and unknown condition and his disease can be managed with a cpap machine.
Sorry Professor, sleep apnea would mean he would snore to the point that he would stop breathing and wake himself up. Nice try with the big words though.
>>>Anonymous said...
Looks like a case of undiagnosed sleep apnea to me. Thank goodness this incident has alerted him to his illness so that he may now seek treatment for his previously undiagnosed and unknown condition and his disease can be managed with a cpap machine.
Sorry Professor, sleep apnea would mean he would snore to the point that he would stop breathing and wake himself up. Nice try with the big words though.
5/23/2015 09:02:00 AM<<<
Not necessarily...
As someone with Sleep Apnea who was married to someone with Sleep Apnea the snoring can be so absent or so quiet as to not be noticed. Sleep Apnea can take many forms and it could be a silent killer. It depends on airway obstructions, rhythms and no one here is an expert.
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