Wednesday, November 11, 2015

Dumb and Dumberer

Pending jury outcomes of course. This one looks headed to trial soon:
  • An angry Cook County judge berated a Chicago Police officer who was in court Tuesday after being charged with firing five shots at an off-duty suburban cop who tried to pull him over for driving drunk.

    Judge Adam Bourgeois Jr. told cop John J. Gorman’s attorney: “The problem I have with this is that we have a climate in this city where citizens are shooting at each other. We have to expect and demand more from those who wear a badge.”

    The off-duty cop wasn’t hit, and Gorman, 53, was charged with aggravated discharge of a firearm. He could face up to 15 years in prison if convicted.
We covered this last year when it turned out the suburban cop was trying to pull over the off-duty..while off-duty himself. Not a good tactical decision, but not anything that would justify blazing away at anyone, cop or not.

And Kass teases this one:
  • There is a video that could tear Chicago apart.

    It will go viral if released, and the world will see something ugly and frightening on the Southwest Side.

    It comes from a police dashboard camera. City Hall worries that political hell may be on the way. Activists are primed. The politics of race and police use of force are at hand.

    And a court hearing is scheduled for next week on whether it should be released to the public.
Sorry, but if this video is as bad as suspected and hinted at, then it shouldn't be anywhere near the public realm until after the trial.
  • the Civil Suit was preemptively settled for $5 million
  • there's still a jury to be seated - this will preclude anything resembling a fair trial
The political aspect shouldn't even come into play, and neither should the public's "right-to-know" argument. The public will know, after the process is completed.

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60 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...the world will see something ugly and frightening on the Southwest Side..."

That'd be a first.

11/11/2015 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be on the Tube any minute. Kass got it, everyone got it.

11/11/2015 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This sounded hinky but if you read it a couple of times it makes more sense.

The suburban officer did call it in as opposed to playing cowboy.

11/11/2015 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From what I heard, it's supposed to be very bad.

11/11/2015 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it's the one I'm thinking it is a "no bueno",hope it doesn't get released but sooner or later it will. Get ready for that....

11/11/2015 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It comes from a police dashboard camera. City Hall worries that political hell may be on the way. Activists are primed. The politics of race and police use of force are at hand.

Welcome to Baltimurder.

11/11/2015 01:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If a man has a knife and an officer orders him to drop the knife he will be shot if he refuses. The question is how many times can you fire at the man before it's considered excessive. 3,4, 5,6,7,8,9,10......

11/11/2015 01:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It looks bad, like he CPD is trying to hide something. Stiff shoulders everybody and release the video.

11/11/2015 02:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who in the states attorney's office has gormans back? He only got charged with aggravated discharge? He pointed his weapon and fired at the suburban officers truck and hit the truck. Was Gorman only trying to damage the suburban officers truck? Don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of the states attorney's office, but JG is an obvious idiot and should not be the police.

11/11/2015 02:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Perry F'ing Mason said...

Fair trials?

Why start now?

How many times did they show the Firemen dancing or the waitress being beat up?

Next case.

11/11/2015 02:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Video exists from JG's incident shows JG shooting in the air. So, the hole in the other off-duty's bumper was already there.

11/11/2015 04:50:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

This guy screwed up big time.

11/11/2015 07:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hear that this video is why Garrey into
ACLU and trying to get us CALEA certified. If the rumors are true about the content of the video then we are going to have some trouble.

11/11/2015 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time to schedule my hemorrhoid surgery......

11/11/2015 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city will burn if this video comes out. Baltimore will look like Disney World.

11/11/2015 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another example of cops being their own worst enemy. Sad, ...and stupid.

11/11/2015 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.newarkspeaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3072

11/11/2015 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've seen the so-called "McDonald video" and it's bad. It's going to be a problem for us. Frankly, I don't understand why VanDyke hasn't been indicted. He fucked up. Stripping him was the least we could do, I guess, but the G is screwing around with this and will only make it worse.

11/11/2015 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous COWBOY COP said...

Considering Garry's early NYPD years, he would understand.

11/11/2015 09:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6 year old white autistic boy shot and killed by 2 black cops. If it was a black kid there'd be riots. Wheres the president?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeremy-mardis-father-hands-up_56413a0de4b0307f2caeb86b

11/11/2015 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The media and the politicians have already 'ripped chicago apart.'

11/11/2015 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing like informing the masses ahead of time so they can get together to riot and loot. I will be retired by then I think I will join the looting can get some good Christmas deals for the family.

11/11/2015 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The suburban cowboy is a true screwball from a family of screwballs & was fired from Merrionette Park shortly after this incident. JG used poor judgement but did not invite the incident. He shall be vindicated.
-022 3rd watch

11/11/2015 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wasn't there already a $5 million settlement on this Laquan thing?

11/11/2015 01:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

copper will do jail time ,

11/11/2015 02:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6 year old white autistic boy shot and killed by 2 black cops. If it was a black kid there'd be riots. Wheres the president?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeremy-mardis-father-hands-up_56413a0de4b0307f2caeb86b

11/11/2015 12:00:00 PM

Serious question: ever notice when people post things like you just did anywhere on the Internet, the black cops are almost always immediately fired/arrested compared to the cops that cause a certain group of people to riot?

11/11/2015 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the video is so bad why has he not been charged? And why did it take 6+ months to charge this goof Gorman?

11/11/2015 02:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cop shooting at cop... I don't see any activists getting involved. They have nothing to gain.

11/11/2015 03:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Um... Chicago is already torn apart Kass. The entire world thinks this is the most dangerous place & the most corrupt politically speaking.

11/11/2015 03:22:00 PM  
Anonymous This city WILL burn said...

Let's just air this video and get it over with. I know people have seen it and they say it's quite ugly. I'm sure they're withholding the video based on overall officer sentiment about laying down for lack of support. I for one will also assume the fetal position and let the savages burn the city to the ground. I'll worry about it if and when they make their way to my neck of the woods and then it will be game on. CPD is about to make every other officer involved death in police custody/in the performance of their duties deaths look like angels.

11/11/2015 03:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hear that this video is why Garrey into
ACLU and trying to get us CALEA certified. If the rumors are true about the content of the video then we are going to have some trouble.

11/11/2015 07:36:00 AM

What's this 'WE'? you weren't there. I wasn't there. If the City hired some idiot, they paid. If they guy made a mistake, he'll pay for it. HE is HE and solely responsible for what he did. WE are not HIM.

I don't know what he did. I don't know why WE get painted with HIS brush, mistake or willful stupidity, whatever it is.

Head up shoulders back. WE do a hell of a job every day.

11/11/2015 04:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It'll be worse than Ferguson, be prepared and it's no joke.

11/11/2015 04:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If a man has a knife and an officer orders him to drop the knife he will be shot if he refuses. The question is how many times can you fire at the man before it's considered excessive. 3,4, 5,6,7,8,9,10......

11/11/2015 01:23:00 AM

But when that individual is NOT approaching and numerous other officers are nonchalantly standing around, some closer to said individual and none of them fire, but all 16 shots can be attributed to one officer... yeah its excessive!

11/11/2015 05:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The video is BAD! Even the city knew it which is why they immediately offered millions to make it go away before the family even filed a lawsuit.

11/11/2015 05:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

people this could be like the RODNEY KING riots all over..remember your training and call in the Marines!

11/11/2015 05:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Release it now or don't. The same fears people have that will happen after it is released now, will more than likely still happen later with out a conviction if it really is as bad as people say it is.

11/11/2015 05:51:00 PM  
Anonymous kma 2016 said...

So these two Louisiana black cops chasing a van end up shooting into it hitting the white driver and killing his six year old son. Were is the white community's support for the police now. Were is the," they feared for their life excuse?" Were is the placing of the blame on the child's father?

11/11/2015 06:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) this 1 is running for president! hillary looking insane!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3314041/Is-Hillary-wearing-wig-Matt-Drudge-alleges-Mrs-Clinton-fake-hair-one-personal-stylists-calls-claim-really-ridiculous.html

11/11/2015 07:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's real bad. Get ready for it and this is no joke. They've stalled all they could, yea that bad

11/11/2015 07:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is anyone else bothered by the fact that they bring up this "officers" cr history?? Even if this guy is a duche, the media is already using this against us. Just wait until someone gets sued and the info is flaunted to paint you as a corrupt cop.

11/11/2015 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic-

Wishing our Nation’s Patriots a blessed day for their service and personal sacrifices. Let us not forget those who gave it all. Freedom is not free. Our veterans have protected our freedoms and the American way of life with our higher standard of living. All too often we take our freedom for granted, so the next time you see a serviceman or servicewoman give them a kind word of gratitude and give them a thumbs up. GOD BLESS OUR VETERAN'S !!!

A grateful nations remembers. However, the Veteran’s Administration has failed our veterans with scandals involving treatment and delays in care. As predicted, the bureaucrats in Washington D.C. rewarded executives and employees with 142 million dollars of bonuses last year despite the substandard and disrespectful care. And don’t forget little Dick Durbin’s (D-IL) midnight diatribe and condemnation of those serving in the Iraq war on the Senate floor forever entering his agenda onto the congressional record. Our veterans deserve better than those entrenched politicians and bureaucrats in D.C. have to offer.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/11/11/veterans-affairs-pays-142-million-bonuses-amid-scandals/75537586/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqIlXfkylD4 (Dick Durbin in his own words)

11/11/2015 07:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh boy. What's next? For everyone in law enforcement doing the right thing-keep up the faith. Remain strong and we shall overcome.

11/11/2015 07:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Van Dyke? It's not the tripping over the ottoman video again?

11/11/2015 08:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...the world will see something ugly and frightening on the Southwest Side..."

Oprah?

11/11/2015 09:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At 12pm... Both cops were charged with 2nd degree and attempt BEFORE the story got out. And the police have already distanced themselves from these guys and left them to fend for themselves. Its not exactly the same.

11/11/2015 09:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Video exists from JG's incident shows JG shooting in the air. So, the hole in the other off-duty's bumper was already there."

Where was there a camera that captured this supposed video? Does Gorman have a dashcam in his whip to capture his famous off duty antics? BTW, what goes up must come down, so surely you can't be suggesting he should get a pass on this one at all.

11/11/2015 10:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Perry F'ing Mason said...
Fair trials?

Why start now?

How many times did they show the Firemen dancing or the waitress being beat up?

Next case.
11/11/2015 02:53:00 AM

Maybe we could call it the waitress 'icident' since she was NOT beat up, not injured.

11/11/2015 10:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
It'll be worse than Ferguson, be prepared and it's no joke.

11/11/2015 04:30:00 P

Don't agree it be cold out and blackliesmatter thug don't be liking the cold! But don't wait till it gets warm then we gots trouble! But if rioting occurred we don't have men like Jimmy Maurer during bulls riots who gave us gas teams and did not shudder backed us up, was on scene with other old school bosses with us. Today bosses would be cowering in offices, to the young copper make sure you weapons are maintained, you're gas mask fits,you have first aid supplies, patrol ca is fueled, you have extra water and snack bars, your helmet is fitted properly! God bless the CPD and elected you better tell your judge how it is and make sure video is destroyed, they took the 5 million done deal, or if video released will they be forced to give back the taxpayers 5 million?

11/11/2015 11:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The suburban cowboy is a true screwball from a family of screwballs & was fired from Merrionette Park shortly after this incident. JG used poor judgement but did not invite the incident. He shall be vindicated.
-022 3rd watch

11/11/2015 12:56:00 PM

Funny, it's Gorman that's the screwball, hope he had fun in statesville

11/11/2015 11:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carol Marin earlier this summer covered this story with the hype that we will be in "Ferguson style" riots when the video is released. If people remain calm will Carol and the clowns from ch. 5 do the same?

11/12/2015 02:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So now police departments are supposed to be scared about video being released!

Let the riots begin I can handle it But I hope the rioters understand I just took a 3 hour class on shootings.

My aim is pristine!

My asp has been oiled

My magazine are loaded with the finest ammunition.

My boots are steal toed.

My vest is state of the art.

My thrust kick is still potent

My hand stun is viper like accurate.

And My partner is just plain crazy...

11/12/2015 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
If a man has a knife and an officer orders him to drop the knife he will be shot if he refuses. The question is how many times can you fire at the man before it's considered excessive. 3,4, 5,6,7,8,9,10......

11/11/2015 01:23:00 AM
It's really up to the knife holder. You can (and should) fire until the threat is over

11/12/2015 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I told you in a previous thread yesterday. Don't trust Kass. He likes to play both ends against the middle. I haven't seen the tape in question, but a close friend of mine who has told me that it is very bad and will cause big problems for all of us if it is released. As for the Gorman incident, I know all parties involved and sometimes if you can't say anything good about anybody it is best to say nothing at all.

11/12/2015 09:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

kma 2016 said...
So these two Louisiana black cops chasing a van end up shooting into it hitting the white driver and killing his six year old son. Were is the white community's support for the police now. Were is the," they feared for their life excuse?" Were is the placing of the blame on the child's father?

***Crickets***

11/12/2015 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The suburban cowboy is a true screwball from a family of screwballs & was fired from Merrionette Park shortly after this incident. JG used poor judgement but did not invite the incident. He shall be vindicated.
-022 3rd watch

11/11/2015 12:56:00 PM

I don't know the Suburban cop, but I do know JG.

JG is a drunkin idiot. That man has some serious problems and needs to get them worked out before he ever gets to look at a gun again.

11/12/2015 03:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The political aspect shouldn't even come into play, and neither should the public's "right-to-know" argument. The public will know, after the process is completed."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

How many times have the police released or leaked videos that put civilians in a bad light, well before the "process" is completed?

I have the same problem with the whole blue "code of silence" when they themselves bitch about people not coming forward and ratting somebody out, for whatever reason. If somebody had taken that letter sent to the Fox Lake mayor by several officers in the police department, the whole Joe Gliniewicz saga would never have mushroomed out of control to the point that it did.



11/12/2015 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I told you in a previous thread yesterday. Don't trust Kass. He likes to play both ends against the middle. I haven't seen the tape in question, but a close friend of mine who has told me that it is very bad and will cause big problems for all of us if it is released. As for the Gorman incident, I know all parties involved and sometimes if you can't say anything good about anybody it is best to say nothing at all.
_________________________

he's part of the media. he's not suppose to be on "your" side, "our" side or "their" side. while he is vocal and opinionated on both sides of various events, he is the media. he isn't required to be loyal to anyone. he is only required to report for everyone

11/13/2015 02:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There would be city wide riots is they showed a tape of the merit selection process too.

11/13/2015 09:27:00 AM  
Blogger SCC said...

To the unpublished:

It's called tainting the jury pool.

If this guy is as screwed as everyone is claiming, and is in fact found guilty, his lawyer has a really good shot at claiming his client couldn't get an unbiased jury because of the inflammatory nature of the video. Judge vacates the sentence and no retrial and oops, don't all you lib-tarded street corner lawyers look like complete assholes.

Or Asshats.

11/13/2015 01:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
kma 2016 said...
So these two Louisiana black cops chasing a van end up shooting into it hitting the white driver and killing his six year old son. Were is the white community's support for the police now. Were is the," they feared for their life excuse?" Were is the placing of the blame on the child's father?

***Crickets***

11/12/2015 03:40:00 PM

Your mama's calling, your spaghettios are ready...time to leave the basement!

11/14/2015 03:55:00 PM  

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