Send in the Clowns!
You know you've fucked up when you have to send in the commanders:
- Supe sent the commanders into roll call to explain the reasoning. You know they fucked up when commanders are in roll call at 7am on a Saturday morning trying to play "damage control." Our commander literally said "he seems to be within the parameters of the use of force model but I think the dept in this day and age is in the business trying to keep the community peaceful." So you're flat out admitting that you removed an officer from the street and put him in call back for doing nothing wrong because we need to appease the criminals in the community so they don't riot? HOLY FUCK this city is a joke. That officer needs to get a lawyer and sue the city ASAP. This shit is bullshit.
Not only that, but we have De-Escalante demonstrating he knows ZERO about the Use of Force model:
- Escalante addressed roll call. He said there was nothing in our use of force model that allows an officer to kick someone in the head.
What a spineless merit hack.
John must have missed a few Use of Force lessons years back. And forgotten what the Use of Force order said when he took (and supposedly passed) promotional exams. And how the order has been changed recently.
Labels: silly people
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Johnson defendeded the officer's actions at his City Club appearance.
If you want to play proactive police in the politically correct city of Chicago in today's day and age you WILL get stripped, face unfair punishment, lose your job, get sued and or go to prison.
S T A Y
F E T A L
Back in the day , guys had a spine and expressed their dismay with the Blue Flu . I don't know what's taking you guys so long .
Escalante was addressing roll call at the pr fest when he said that. Half the room started laughing the other half was yelling trying to explain he was a high level assailaint. The second in command can't doesn't even know the use of force model or at least can't tell the difference between a resistor and assailant.
When the head is the only body part available to the officer and the assailant is choking another officer and resisting it's ok to kick the assailant in the head. How much does Escalante make a year to not know that? Using a taser is also justified in that situation but could you imagine what the powers that be would've done if that officer tasered that dude in the head?!
If a commander did say that, look for that commander to receive a phone call to come to 35th street and do some explaining. The law suit to follow will have that commander and every cop at the roll call be ordered for a deposition and to testify during the trial. The brass are their own worst enemy, especially when trying to remove both feet from their mouths.
"Send in the clowns" is very appropriate. Clowns spouting psychobabble.
The cancer of Area North, NAGODE, also was preaching about this poor officer being outside the Use of Force Model. This is another hack who had no idea that we could use a head stun (even by foot) to gain control of an aggravated battery offender. We are all screwed....This Nagode is by far the worst thing that could have happened to morale....Thank you Central..At least u gave us fair warning that he was no f%#€in good
C'mon guys and gals...it's not like this is the first time the command staff has conducted 'damage control' during roll calls throughout the city. It certainly won't be the last, although I didn't think it would happen so quickly under the helm of EJ and 1st Deputy Mr. Six.
So appropriate......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1fVQGESUTo
(SCC, please edit or revise this comment as you see fit. But our directives are online and available to anyone to look up.)
Do the bosses read the General Orders?
Can their attention be directed to General Order 03-02-02, "Force Options", most recently revised in January 2016. IV.C.1.a. Level of Force Response Options Guidelines.....for an "assailant", the following use of force is allowed and advised: "Direct mechanical techniques are hard, concentrating, striking movements such as punching and KICKING [emphasis added], or powerful locks and pressures. These techniques can be combined with take-downs or pins against the ground or other objects." This is straight from the General Orders.
So what now are the options for the officer when he is "stripped of his police powers" for following the General Orders?? Must an officer suffer the indignation of "being stripped" in the eyes of family, loved ones, and friends, because the criminals might get upset?? Sorry if it doesn't "look good" in the media, but guess what, we are the police. Sometimes our work is not pretty. Don't let the public who are uneducated and inexperienced in the intricacies and nuances of police work dictate how police work is done. Stand up at the podium and tell the truth about what we can and cannot do:
Again, from the General Order which quotes the LAW from the Illinois Compiled Statutes:
(720 ILCS 5/7-5) (from Ch. 38, par. 7-5)
Sec. 7-5. Peace officer's use of force in making arrest. (a) A peace officer, or any person whom he has summoned or directed to assist him, need not retreat or desist from efforts to make a lawful arrest because of resistance or threatened resistance to the arrest. He is justified in the use of any force which he reasonably believes to be necessary to effect the arrest and of any force which he reasonably believes to be necessary to defend himself or another from bodily harm while making the arrest. However, he is justified in using force likely to cause death or great bodily harm only when he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or such other person, or when he reasonably believes both that:
(1) Such force is necessary to prevent the arrest from being defeated by resistance or escape; and
(2) The person to be arrested has committed or attempted a forcible felony which involves the infliction or threatened infliction of great bodily harm or is attempting to escape by use of a deadly weapon, or otherwise indicates that he will endanger human life or inflict great bodily harm unless arrested without delay.
(b) A peace officer making an arrest pursuant to an invalid warrant is justified in the use of any force which he would be justified in using if the warrant were valid, unless he knows that the warrant is invalid.
(Source: P.A. 84-1426.)
Here's another law for the media trolls here:
Does a citizen have a right to resist arrest, even if the arrest is unlawful? NO HE DOES NOT!!
(720 ILCS 5/7-7) (from Ch. 38, par. 7-7)
Sec. 7-7. Private person's use of force in resisting arrest. A person is not authorized to use force to resist an arrest which he knows is being made either by a peace officer or by a private person summoned and directed by a peace officer to make the arrest, even if he believes that the arrest is unlawful and the arrest in fact is unlawful.
(Source: P.A. 86-1475.)
Now, class is dismissed. School is out for today.
Took exam lol that's a joke .
Tool Box ......Fetal & Blue "it's to hot out" Flu , apply both on the up coming long weekend. Reuse as necessary
So, what unit is ,Eddie gonna offer two these two coppers that believe it or not have both been put thru the ringer this week?
He's merit.
Perhaps these commanders need a refresher course on the Use of Force order and model.
It's just shameful. Hold officers to a standard that none of them can come close to.
Eddie - You need to think about what Unit you are going to put these two officers in cause neither is gonna do any pro-active police work again.
Kim Fox is going to set up a Police accountability unit, keep working dummies.
We have another one on the Trib front page now of some crime fighter punching some shit head who was "publicly intoxicated". Publicly Intoxicated? Your going to risk your job and freedom over some shitbird who is drunk in his own 'hood?
Of course this was a plain clothes officer, one of those Japanese soldiers left on the Island 60 years after the war. And no matter what the facts are the real truth is it was only for public intoxication, it was in some shit neighborhood that doesnt care about it, and its some copper punching a downed offender about five times so hard you can hear fist smacking meat.
I say charges dropped, cop indicted, shitbird given at least 500 K .
DOJ, ever wonder why merit promotions don't work.
Yet despite it all, we still have some goofs both on patrol and specialized teams who want to play cops and robbers. Unbelievable.
John Escalante, MERITORIOUSLY promoted to lieutenant, 01Sep2005. Sponsored by Commander Irene Jones. Enough said.
Why the NORMAL community is standing for this shit I will never know. It is not permissible to kick someone who is resisting arrest and trying to kill your partner, in the head? They are CRIMINALS! You should be allowed to take them into custody, period.
Jesus.
not a copper
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Back in the day , guys had a spine and expressed their dismay with the Blue Flu . I don't know what's taking you guys so long .
6/21/2016 12:15:00 AM
Back in what day? Blue Flu? What suburb did that happen in?
Message is loud and clear, "boss"
Let me put a slightly different spin on this whole issue and some others. First there is a lot of talk among many of you about filing a lawsuit. Try to remember that in order to collect in a suit you must have some damages that can be rectified monetarily. Being stripped while not losing any pay or benefits would not qualify. Perhaps Johnson is telling the truth that he stripped and assigned to Officer to desk duty to protect him. Consider this, he is obviously an aggressive type, he goes out in another day or two and has another similar incident. Where does that leave him. Maybe inside, wherever he is, is the best place until this whole thing is over. Many of you probably know that this is standard procedure in many departments. In any controversial actions, officers are routinely assigned to desk duties pending the investigation. That policy protects the individual Officer and the department.
Speaking of Nogode.....ABC7 ITeam has been sniffing around regarding written memos by Nagode demanding ISR's be done on certain groups of people regardless of reasonable suspicion. This was his attempt at beefing up Area Central numbers for CompStat. Sounds like a quota to me. Apparently all of his terrorist tactics are coming back to haunt him.......especially when he putsthem in writing!.....This guy is a true tool!
The job is called "Law EnFORCEment" for a reason...
Sometimes people/folks do not comply & force is necessary, & it is usually not pretty...
But hey, lets take the focus off of the UNLAWFUL resistor & put it on the poor Copper trying to do their best while under extreme duress & surrounded by a hostile crowd... (Liberalism 101)
Now the kangaroo court is scratching their heads as to why violent crime has sky-rocketed... Of course they know, but they need the distraction to keep their nefarious actions from coming to light...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Johnson defendeded the officer's actions at his City Club appearance.
6/21/2016 12:07:00 AM
Yeah,after HE and the media hung him out to dry.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Back in the day , guys had a spine and expressed their dismay with the Blue Flu . I don't know what's taking you guys so long .
6/21/2016 12:15:00 AM
This Sunday (pride parade day) would be a great day for everyone to hit the medical
EJ you still eating pizza at 32 and the bash?
I think we need to make a copy of the use of force model and send it to ej and deEscalante in the mail like it was done with DD to our other posts 1st deputy.
"Johnson defended the officer's actions at his City Club appearance." But not immediately after the video surfaced, and not until a judge set the offender' s bond at 1.1 million dollars for Agg. Battery. That's not leadership, it's fence-sitting until someone else has tested the waters.
"Chicago police seized nearly 100 guns Father's Day weekend, getting to root of the problem"
http://abc7chicago.com/news/chicago-police-seize-nearly-100-guns/1394504/
The root Eddie could be "people that look like us" to quote yourself, you say black peoples are more comfortable dealing with people that look like them, you said it so put up or shut up, experiment put all black coppers in black areas bosses everything you may have an Einstein moment see what happens!
When it came to demonstrations and protest in the 1st and 18th district Nagode would let the criminal element do anything they wanted including battery of Police Officers. He was a big mouth Candyass. Talks a good game but a huge Pussy in the field. Not a P/Os friend. Area North be AWARE.
It's the dumbing down of the police department. Rahm does not want independent thinkers in any position of authority.
Tribune article states" Residents feel more comfortable
sharing info with PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE THEM"!I feel more comfortable living in a neighborhood with PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME!
To the Bosses: When you all bucked the old system in the late 90' and started to climb the Great Clout Tree, trying to prove that anovs, parkers, and contact cards were killing crime it was bullshit. Compstat doesn't work. Patrolman that hate you because you were never a cop saw you climb the ladder. There is nobody in the district that can speak up for you, especially on third and first watch, because you never were in patrol with us any longer than you absolutely had to be. Frankly, most of you don't have the first clue about how modern street policing works because you have never had to wear the blue and answer calls in a fast district while people record you understanding that there is nothing better out there for you because you are not connected. You've never condescended to speak to someone who has been there because there was nothing in it for you. Your kind has sucked the city dry and have pushed things too far. You took every thing from the job that was there and destroyed any illusion we in patrol had that we could get someplace on our own merit. Then you still wanted work. And many did it because the had convictions that they were helping the community they worked in. A quiet dignity that they were doing something important even if it wasn't recognized. (A joke to you bosses.) You used to have the carrot and the stick but you sold the carrot. Now you only have the stick and the mule knows he'll get it no matter what he does. The only thing you can do is follow the legitimacy training that you exempted yourself from, and try to rebuild the relationship. Take less, support more, do the job you have well and stop waisting time maneuvering for next one up the ladder. And use district and department budgets for the equipment you need instead of slushing it. Stop stealing from the flower fund and the Christmas party fund( I want a chair at roll call made after Carter was in office!)Give people their time off. They earned it. Stop thinking of patrolman as "These Jagoffs!" If your own personnel don't trust you, how can the community they work in. Blue shirts didn't erode public trust; the pressure you put on them to get your numbers did. I've got the crime reduction awards to prove it. The numbers you demanded are the numbers the ACLU used to hang us. Those fucking contact cards that made your career did this. I know you are scared and it is an uncertain time. It's also exhilarating because, if someone at the top is pulled down maybe you got a shot at commander if your chinaman replaces him. (Wouldn't that be great!) Now I know the justice department has to be gone before the next president is sworn into office since the current president's ex-chief-of-staff is the mayor of the town being investigated, but that's not the end. If we're universally miserable and worried about our liberty and livelihood being taken we won't have any reason not to call off work when we are sick or hurt. (My elbow has been fucked up for a week. I haven called off as is my contractual right. If I have a bad cold I don't call in either.) Horrible conditions uniting workers were what formed unions. Think on it.
See.. This department and city is a complete joke. An officer completely justified under state law and department guidelines is still stripped and under investigation for doing his job in a hostile environment. Fuck this place ! Stay fetal and don't do shit. Let them have the politically correct department and a force of armed social workers. Apparently they don't want you enforcing the laws anymore.
Let the activists and media hacks solve the communities problems since they are always spouting off that they know better than the police on how to do things.
Give em what they want !
When I was in the academy back in 93, instructors told us if you're on the ground with someone on top of you, do whatever it takes to get him off even if you have to grab a rock from the street and hit him upside the head
Hey! I know a few clowns that have graduated from clown school. None of them cheated. Stop it now!
This is what happens when none of the "leadership" has any practical street experience. A bunch of clout and race driven promotions. None of these guys and certainly none of the study group lieutenants have ever gotten their hands dirty fighting with the Shitheads on the street. It's a whole different perspective when you are fighting for your life in some piss filled alley in the middle of the night. You think number one or number two or any of the useless cheaters ever put themselves anywhere near danger. Unless real leaders are promoted the death spiral will continue.
Fuck Johnson, he is a flip-flop!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Johnson defendeded the officer's actions at his City Club appearance.
6/21/2016 12:07:00 AM
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then how did he justify stripping him?
Retired Hom Det: watch the hole video of the resisting offender. The officer kicking he offender in the head is totally justified period. Handled 37 police shooting and other deadly force investigations. To all working officers, the Illinois Deadly Force rule has no changed.
I repeat....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is some shit. The command staff must be listening to some degree to try to do damage control and fail miserably at it leaving us bottom feeders going' "WTF!" Even the commanders are attending role call to explain the actions of the supernintendo. Don't believe the hype! This department doesn't have your back, will not have your back and rarely did so in the past 5-10 yrs. At least one commander expresses self-preservation by stating know the use of force policy, be able to articulate it both verbally/written for testifying. You and your partner go home with the same amount of holes(uninjured) and if you have to do an ISR, do it by all means as to not jeopardize your family's income, pension and do jail time. It's a shit show here.....
6/17/2016 09:11:00 AM
Clowns is right.
I haven't seen an old school, stand up guy, type exempt in a little while
Are there ANY left?
I'm thinking Rahm doesn't want any of those types in exempt positions therefore he'll weed them out and make sure there are no more.
Why would anyone expect that our "leaders" would have any idea in the world about police work? They are ALL CLOUTED into their positions..From Sgt. on up. How many of them ever actually took and passed an honest test? Not one! How many of them has ever been to court? Damn few! How many of them have close ties with the democrat party? All! How many of them would you want standing next to you in a bad situation? NONE
"Send In The Clowns!
You know you've fucked up when you
have to send in the commanders."
Good gawd...
The adult version of the old playlot
favorite "Dog Poop On-A-Stick" game...
Policemen are put in the unenviable
position to avoid being hit, on top of
all the other hazards...
As an old Plymouth Savoy Copper
once said:
"It's a mean and nasty, shit-doo-doo job
working for a mean and nasty, shit-doo-doo
city with mean and nasty, shit-doo-doo
people in charge. Put in your time, help
some people who need it, don't take
what isn't yours, try not to get yourself killed
and maybe you'll survive long enough to
pull a pension and have a few good years
left to live."
Real talk.
But nonetheless, it's heart-breaking to
witness what has become of Policing
for all of the wrong reasons in this town.
Its OVER! How can you risk everything for civilian dress and a longer lunch?
Pack up the Bus and get back to 6 Flags Great America and take Mr. E-J Bubbles the buffoon with you.
The lesser known Rahm's City Hall Advisors are running the Department, all of the merit exempts are just well paid spokespeople, comprised of donors, cheats, and storefront preacher scholarships willingly sold their soul (if ever having one) to spread the Democrat agenda and taking the heat by blaming the Blue Shirt.
Why would any coppers stick their necks, lives and family out for a pack of liars?
Why in the world are there still coppers falling for this rhetoric?
Say No to Ed, BBQ Instead - July 1- 5, 2016
Wtf , really . This is what happens when majority of command staff were merit Sgt. , Lt.
Stay Fetal , when forced to defend yourself or another Police Officer , know the law on deadly force .
That copper should file a law suit against the iAd investigators that stripped him on orders of a BLM activist .
Do absolutely nothing on view . Drive to all In Progress Calls with lights and sirens on ,but obey all traffic laws .
The Commader in 14 addressed the roll. Where do they get these guys. I am embarrassed to be part of this department. I am sure he is a merit hack.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Back in the day , guys had a spine and expressed their dismay with the Blue Flu . I don't know what's taking you guys so long .
6/21/2016 12:15:00 AM
When, exactly, was 'the day'? I started in 1982 and don't remember any blue flu outbreaks.
Are we talking 'when dinosaurs roamed the earth', or what?
Not to Monday morning quarterback, but us working plainclothes, Tac or in a unit with this? I worked a beat car my whole career and never had the need for more.I did get asked if I wanted to go to the old SOS by one of the bosses but I politely declined.If there's a demand to bring in a certain number of heads it's just not worth it.Reconsider where you are going on this job. There's a life waiting for you IF you retire.
If the bosses don't want to see tac team guys punching, kicking people in the heads stop demanding bullshit Anovs!! And give each hard charger a Tazer! Hope that Anov was worth it guy, you were warned over and over and over and over!!
These 2 cannot even follow the rules! "it's better to know the rules before you break the rules john&ed show it makes it more fun!" Then you have Eddie making a blatant racist statement and showing the total ignorance "they (meaning blacks) feel more comfortable with people that look like them." Eddie then please tell us why vast majority of lawyers and doctors blacks seek out are white? it's not a racist statement Eddie it's total realism correct? You just can't keep making your own rules boss. There's got to be one set of rules fair for everyone, including you.
You keep talking smack about "uncomfortable vs comfortable"
' Ed your not buying a mattress your supposed be leading and saving officers from unnecessary, unfair treatment! Being a leader that can be respected takes work and leadership abilities and sadly you and john are pandering to the thugs and illegal invaders who threaten harm to the blue line. Ed come on your superintendent of police the big "kahuna" and until found out you had a police detail on your home? You caused this by bending over and letting thugs control you! You gave your personal cell phone out to a thug and he was controlling what punishment a working copper who saved his partners life was doing!
I live down the street from where Phil Cline lived as boos, you know what Ed when he was not working he drove his personal car by himself (imagine that) he even rode a bicycle all over by himself,and oh my went to the gym by himself. The big difference he did not pander to the scum as you and johnny seem to be feeding police to!
Bottom line the mayor made the hire of what 5 more overpaid stooges to "reform" CPD it is really pathetic simple concept "law and order" you obey the law Eddie that should be your news story! Look at the video going around its on another thread on this blog, the thugs taking over police headquarters in a police board meeting threatening and pushing police, any true leader would of called assist units in and ordered the thugs out of "our home" and locked them all up! Your scrambled egg hat leader did what again?
Progressives don't want to believe that these laws exist. The sad thing is that they become screaming mimi's when skull man threatens or harms them or their families. Progressive neighbor is still arguing that office was never choked.
I don't know why anyone is doing anything proactive anymore. Just don't get it.
I taught the Use of Force Model for many years. It allows the officer to defeat any resistance during a lawful arrest. The officer is not required to first sustain injury before using the accelerated techniques, nor does he have to follow the "officer response" in rank order. If the resistance attains the level of fighting for one's life during a confrontation, the officer can use anything, even a garbage can, to gain control in order to stop the offender's resistance. During any lawful arrest, officers should constantly verbalize for everyone to hear: "Stop resisting, stop resisting!" This, of course, will be caught on camera for all to see and hear.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Johnson defendeded the officer's actions at his City Club appearance.
6/21/2016 12:07:00 AM
Saw it in the paper this morning. His defense was brief and to the point followed by another statement about police responsibility. It was not as strong a statement as his initial offensive words and actions in response to the video.
Where's US Grant?
We need US Grant!
Who was the one who compared McDrinkiePoo to US Grant in Rahm's emails?
HA! HA! HA!
Did anyone ever actually see him at Part 2 of either a Sgts. or Lts. exam?
They just have to remember to show up at Part 1 to get made "meritoriously".
Speaking of clowns, you should see the clown shoes the 017th district tac Lt wore while chasing a five foot one juvenile offender yesterday. Good job S.M.
This disgust me. Watch this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P-3hzTibgJg
Anonymous Anonymous said...
When the head is the only body part available to the officer and the assailant is choking another officer and resisting it's ok to kick the assailant in the head. How much does Escalante make a year to not know that? Using a taser is also justified in that situation but could you imagine what the powers that be would've done if that officer tasered that dude in the head?!
6/21/2016 12:27:00 AM
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NOW THAT would have made one totally cool video!
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Anonymous said...
(SCC, please edit or revise this comment as you see fit. But our directives are online and available to anyone to look up.)
Do the bosses read the General Orders?
Can their attention be directed to General Order 03-02-02, "Force Options", most recently revised in January 2016. IV.C.1.a. Level of Force Response Options Guidelines.....for an "assailant", the following use of force is allowed and advised: "Direct mechanical techniques are hard, concentrating, striking movements such as punching and KICKING
[emphasis added], or powerful locks and pressures. These techniques can be combined with take-downs or pins against the ground or other objects." This is straight from the General Orders.
So what now are the options for the officer when he is "stripped of his police powers" for following the General Orders?? Must an officer suffer the indignation of "being stripped" in the eyes of family, loved ones, and friends, because the criminals might get upset?? Sorry if it doesn't "look good" in the media, but guess what, we are the police. Sometimes our work is not pretty. Don't let the public who are uneducated and inexperienced in the intricacies and nuances of police work dictate how police work is done. Stand up at the podium and tell the truth about what we can and cannot do:
Again, from the General Order which quotes the LAW from the Illinois Compiled Statutes:
(720 ILCS 5/7-5) (from Ch. 38, par. 7-5)
Sec. 7-5. Peace officer's use of force in making arrest. (a) A peace officer, or any person whom he has summoned or directed to assist him, need not retreat or desist from efforts to make a lawful arrest because of resistance or threatened resistance to the arrest. He is justified in the use of any force which he reasonably believes to be necessary to effect the arrest and of any force which he reasonably believes to be necessary to defend himself or another from bodily harm while making the arrest. However, he is justified in using force likely to cause death or great bodily harm only when he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or such other person, or when he reasonably believes both that:
(1) Such force is necessary to prevent the arrest from being defeated by resistance or escape; and
(2) The person to be arrested has committed or attempted a forcible felony which involves the infliction or threatened infliction of great bodily harm or is attempting to escape by use of a deadly weapon, or otherwise indicates that he will endanger human life or inflict great bodily harm unless arrested without delay.
(b) A peace officer making an arrest pursuant to an invalid warrant is justified in the use of any force which he would be justified in using if the warrant were valid, unless he knows that the warrant is invalid.
(Source: P.A. 84-1426.)
Here's another law for the media trolls here:
Does a citizen have a right to resist arrest, even if the arrest is unlawful? NO HE DOES NOT!!
(720 ILCS 5/7-7) (from Ch. 38, par. 7-7)
Sec. 7-7. Private person's use of force in resisting arrest. A person is not authorized to use force to resist an arrest which he knows is being made either by a peace officer or by a private person summoned and directed by a peace officer to make the arrest, even if he believes that the arrest is unlawful and the arrest in fact is unlawful.
(Source: P.A. 86-1475.)
Now, class is dismissed. School is out for today.
6/21/2016 02:25:00 AM
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Good post. Long [as required] but worthy of being read again...by everyone.....police or civilians alike.
The whole thing is a sick joke! These bosses keep beating the guys down but then ask for more and stoke us saying "we have your backs" They think because our shirts are blue that we're dumb and can't think for ourselves. Now go get some ISRs!
Eddie does "snapchat":
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-eddie-johnson-snapchat-20160621-story.html
In the past, the department had failed to draw minority candidates, he told business and community leaders at a City Club of Chicago lunch function downtown, because "we used information mediums that maybe I would use: television, print media, the alderman's office, elected officials."
"That's what we used because that's how we grew up," the 55-year-old said. "But these young folks now don't use that stuff, and we found that out the hard way because we failed to reach our target of minority applicants."
Lets examine this boss:
television: you say that minorities don't watch TV hmm seems the greatest amount of cable customers are in minority neighborhoods and they watch hours of TV?
print media: so they don't read any papers even though everyday the papers are anti-police and pro-minority nonsense?
the alderman's office: Great so when we see the alderpeople marching and hooting and hollering with large minority groups they are not there?
elected officials: Who is that in the background ghosts?
Wow really boss, you really need to hunker down and stay out of the media circus stage they are making you look bad, they were not laughing with you most likely laughing at you!
The cancer of Area North, NAGODE, also was preaching about this poor officer being outside the Use of Force Model.
Al Nagode is a fucking goof. He was an incompetent hack in 024, who nobody trusted. I was never more happy to see a supervisor leave. They should move him to some inside job where he can't do anymore damage.
Okay, I'll ask again. Why hasn't Escalante been removed for his part in the LaQuan cover-up?
To: Do the bosses read the General Orders?
Out...Fucking...Standing!!! The obvious answer is NO the bosses don't read the orders. Fucking idiots. EJ probably couldn't understand them anyway.
Top brass reminds me of rodeo clowns running from the bull.
Anonymous said...
The cancer of Area North, NAGODE, also was preaching about this poor officer being outside the Use of Force Model. This is another hack who had no idea that we could use a head stun (even by foot) to gain control of an aggravated battery offender. We are all screwed....This Nagode is by far the worst thing that could have happened to morale....Thank you Central..At least u gave us fair warning that he was no f%#€in good
6/21/2016 12:34:00 AM
Nagode is a stupid tool, he thinks he's smart tho, just ask him.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Retired Hom Det: watch the hole video of the resisting offender. The officer kicking he offender in the head is totally justified period. Handled 37 police shooting and other deadly force investigations. To all working officers, the Illinois Deadly Force rule has no changed.
6/21/2016 09:53:00 AM
Aye...
But presumptive State's Attorney Kim Foxx,
her side boys Lemon Record, JaMal Green,
the rest of BL(a)M, the ACLU, IPRA, Moperah,
Doperah, the Lynch-Mob DOJ and even the
Shit-Sock Man want to see the laws governing
Police Use of Force re-booted so they can
have the joy of seeing a Cop lynched from
every lamp post on a twisted whim in
retaliation for all hotted-up grievances
past, present and yet to come...
"For Us, By Us,
Fuck the rest of y'all..."
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Johnson defendeded the officer's actions at his City Club appearance.
6/21/2016 12:07:00 AM
Saw it in the paper this morning. His defense was brief and to the point followed by another statement about police responsibility. It was not as strong a statement as his initial offensive words and actions in response to the video.
6/21/2016 01:57:00 PM
Yet the officer is still stripped and going thru hell.
I don't know why anyone is doing anything proactive anymore. Just don't get it.
For the same reason clowns from the 009th district tac team posed for pictures with rhamby.... They somehow still think they are going to get made in this cesspool of nepotism. Every blue shirt is always screwing another blue shirt. All because of start times or beat cars. We fight for the limited crumbs this department has to offer. Similar to the way rich kids fight for mommy and daddy's money when they are all grown up. All while the Chicago Mafia's clouted keep getting the easy high ranking jobs fucking up every major case that hits the media. And in the end the rookies have to learn on their own... they won't have it any other way. until they have that 30 day suspension pending over their heads. So more power to them. keeps attention off me as I am going with my 5 year plan to get out of this shithole outfit.
First there is a lot of talk among many of you about filing a lawsuit. Try to remember that in order to collect in a suit you must have some damages that can be rectified monetarily. Being stripped while not losing any pay or benefits would not qualify. Perhaps Johnson is telling the truth that he stripped and assigned to Officer to desk duty to protect him. Consider this, he is obviously an aggressive type, he goes out in another day or two and has another similar incident. Where does that leave him. Maybe inside, wherever he is, is the best place until this whole thing is over. Many of you probably know that this is standard procedure in many departments. In any controversial actions, officers are routinely assigned to desk duties pending the investigation. That policy protects the individual Officer and the department.
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EJ doesn't know this copper from methuselah. If he's concerned about his safety, why strip him? Why not put him on the desk like they do with officers post shooting?
Basically you're an idiot.
Rahms detail not political says a Raymond Hamilton:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-rahm-emanuel-security-detail-trial-met-20160621-story.html
A lieutenant lie Noway just ask Nakia and her crew right Eddie?
88th street and Wabash St tact officer stopped Robert Foreman, Male black 22 YOA during foot chase Foreman an active resister got head stunned, now media aired the Facebook video and Foreman filed a lawsuit!
FOP! where are the you at tonight's FOP Union meeting what's on their agenda?
"The root Eddie could be "people that look like us" to quote yourself, you say black peoples are more comfortable dealing with people that look like them, you said it so put up or shut up, experiment put all black coppers in black areas bosses everything you may have an Einstein moment see what happens!"
6/21/2016 08:01:00 AM
Grew up here, seen plenty, and I can tell you that black officers are often much tougher on black offenders. They are down with it, know the language and the games, and you can't race-card them. Even the very best white officers have a little steeper "learning curve;" it's just natural. "Privilege," hell, white ofc. are often harder on white offenders, it's this unconscious thing of "We expect better from you and you're f__ing up." Some of the best and kindest officers I've encountered have been black, and some of the worst deserve-a-kick-in-the-head-themselves dogs have been white.
Hey, big city, big department, takes all kinds of people, it's just the way the street shakes down.
Of course it's a little different today, with everybody now justifiably afraid to do their job right -- with violent street criminals getting bronze memorial plaques set into the public sidewalk by a municipality. (Ferguson...)
God bless all here. Stay safe.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Chicago police seized nearly 100 guns Father's Day weekend, getting to root of the problem"
http://abc7chicago.com/news/chicago-police-seize-nearly-100-guns/1394504/
The root Eddie could be "people that look like us" to quote yourself, you say black peoples are more comfortable dealing with people that look like them, you said it so put up or shut up, experiment put all black coppers in black areas bosses everything you may have an Einstein moment see what happens!
6/21/2016 08:01:00 AM
Hmmm, I seem to recall a gun turn-in event out south on Father's Day weekend. Would the Department falsely inflate those numbers by adding the turned-in guns to the 'seized' totals??
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Let me put a slightly different spin on this whole issue and some others. First there is a lot of talk among many of you about filing a lawsuit. Try to remember that in order to collect in a suit you must have some damages that can be rectified monetarily. Being stripped while not losing any pay or benefits would not qualify. Perhaps Johnson is telling the truth that he stripped and assigned to Officer to desk duty to protect him. Consider this, he is obviously an aggressive type, he goes out in another day or two and has another similar incident. Where does that leave him. Maybe inside, wherever he is, is the best place until this whole thing is over. Many of you probably know that this is standard procedure in many departments. In any controversial actions, officers are routinely assigned to desk duties pending the investigation. That policy protects the individual Officer and the department.
6/21/2016 07:03:00 AM
A stripped officer can't carry, right? So, being stripped effectively limits an officer's ability to undertake or continue in armed secondary employment. That's a loss of income right there.
And a certain female lieutenant, who retired as a captain, was transferred out of a/5 and sent to a district. She lost no income or rank, but her complaint spoke to a loss of standing and she was reinstated in a/5, with a financial settlement.
So, yes. I can see a lawsuit succeeding for those trapped in callback hell.
(And YOU sound like the placating voice of a City Hall intern with orders to find a way to make the officers who are victimized by this policy stand down.)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Retired Hom Det: watch the hole video of the resisting offender. The officer kicking he offender in the head is totally justified period. Handled 37 police shooting and other deadly force investigations. To all working officers, the Illinois Deadly Force rule has no changed.
6/21/2016 09:53:00 AM
I agree that the deadly force rule has not changed. What has changed is the perception in the community, media and some (democratic) political circles as to the use of force. Any use force is thought of as bad justified or not. Sadly, that is the new reality.
Yet there are still people doing traffic stops, foot chases and other proactive work. They have your back.
Just saw Escallante fleeing 6 ILL State Police cars on 294 outside Great America!!!!
This disgust me. Watch this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P-3hzTibgJg
6/21/2016 02:27:00 PM
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I think its kind of funny watching the house mouses have no idea how to handle this... lol its hilarious in that regard.
Being stripped while not losing any pay or benefits would not qualify. Try to remember that in order to collect in a suit you must have some damages that can be rectified monetarily.Being stripped while not losing any pay or benefits would not qualify. Retort(In a defamation lawsuit this is not true at all. Showing harm or potential harm against future earnings because of the false statements would be enough in this case)
Perhaps Johnson is telling the truth that he stripped and assigned to Officer to desk duty to protect him. Retort (Consider that any promotional process that this officer would want to be a part of would be clouded by this stripping)
Consider this, he is obviously an aggressive type, he goes out in another day or two and has another similar incident. Retort (If the officer in this case was reassigned pending the outcome of a departmental internal investigation, that would be enough to keep the media at bay would it not? The officer would suffer no ill effect in his personnel jacket and future career opportunities and the command staff wouldn't eat crow and spin the collective uniform body's moral into a dumpster fire. This also prevents anything remotely close to coming back in 2 or 3 days and doing the same. Any action can't be predicted, Officer involved shootings, car accidents, use of force or just complaints about professional standards. To not put an officer back out on the job after he has been vetted is lunacy on the part of the agency and simply put makes no sense. If civil liability was your main concern then leadership is not your calling.)
Many of you probably know that this is standard procedure in many departments. In any controversial actions, officers are routinely assigned to desk duties pending the investigation. That policy protects the individual Officer and the department. Retort (Stripping is not in any way shape or form the norm in many departments. Calling community activists and advising them of action that you took before any investigation is also not the norm. Perception is a deadly game that Law Enforcement Leadership can't play, {See the Baltimore Police arrests in Freddy Gray}It is incumbent upon Leadership to do the right thing by the rules and this protects the agency and the community in which they are sworn to protect. It's obvious that you love your agency. It's also obvious that you don't see the bigger picture. This isn't just about this officer. It is about all law enforcement across the US. We must use this case as a shining example of why we shouldn't be served up as sacrificial lambs just to appease the blood thirsty, race baiting media {See The Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri response to this tactic by the media on April 22, 2016. Simply put, If not now? when?
Clowns is correct, not one leader present.
What's with the tac Lt in 017 asking the watch for isr's at roll call? You are a clown! Look at what is going on with the dept. Proactive policing is done. Get a clue and loose the clown shoes please.
******* When force is applied, a member will escalate or de-escalate to the amount of force which is reasonably necessary to overcome the subject’s resistance and to gain control.
1. Members are not required to start at the lowest levels of the Use of Force Model; they will select the appropriate level of force based on the subject’s actions.
2. Members will modify their level of force in relation to the amount of resistance offered by the subject
Same circus just different clowns
Anonymous said...
This disgust me. Watch this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P-3hzTibgJg
6/21/2016 02:27:00 PM
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I think its kind of funny watching the house mouses have no idea how to handle this... lol its hilarious in that regard.
6/21/2016 09:17:00 PM
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The one broad doesn't even have a gun on!!!
Wearing the uniform but never been the police!
New name for the Superintendent............supt. flip flop? Supt Waffles?
When I was in the academy back in 93, instructors told us if you're on the ground with someone on top of you, do whatever it takes to get him off even if you have to grab a rock from the street and hit him upside the head
6/21/2016 08:58:00 AM
Amen Brother/Sister, The instructor also said that back in 91. He also said the police never lose a fight. That's back when the bosses were bosses.
the new secret boss clown training, since we cannot do our jobs lets see if we can make them laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzOrby71MGs
An oldie "funny like a clown"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWINtUCshxY
So are guys and gals saying that Al "Bipolar" Nagode is off of his meds? Now that's scary!!! DE-Escalante please familiarize yourself with the Use of Force Model/ Guidelines. There's a training bulletin, streaming video, General order, Special Order, law department and an academy staff available daily egg yolk head. Instead of stripping the officer, how about you go back to the Academy as a retread. On another note..Eddie "Jelly back" Johnson defended the officer's actions, yet stripped him.."for his own good"..that sounds about right.
Doesn't matter who the superintendent is, he/she will directly take orders and make moves given by rahm. A CPD superintendent will never be their own person, when they make a move it comes from city hall, when they make an order it is from city hall, the CPD is definitely not even partially independent of city hall! Not a fan of Eddie's but do you think any boss could change the culture of political influence from city hall?
How about the WC in 004 demanding ISRs or saying the commander will make some changes here. Hey DOJ U LISTENING????
"" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-3hzTibgJg&app=desktop "" And some of you still have hope?
How about the WC in 004 demanding ISRs or saying the commander will make some changes here. Hey DOJ U LISTENING????
6/22/2016 09:06:00 PM
And all the career do nothings that work the desk and the day time aldermans car will remain in place.
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