Well This is Something
The FOP actually discovering some form of testicles (click for a larger image):
Time to make Rahm feel some pain. One suggestion for the FOP though:
- You need to have a penalty for anyone working these days. Otherwise, some jerks are going to sign up for it and just say, "Screw everyone else - I'm getting mine."
Therefore, to put some teeth in there with your newly-found nuts, we respectfully suggest anyone found to be working this day will be expelled from the bargaining unit and denied the benefits of the bargaining unit.
No cowering behind, "Well, we can't make them not sign up." That's going to be Rahm's hope. Sure you can. How do you think the dems and repubs maintain party discipline? Denying the benefits of their party - committees, chairmanships, fundraising, election support. Crack the whip or Rahm is going to walk all over you and the membership, which already doubts where you stand, will de-legitimize the entire organization.
Get the PBPA behind this, too.
No cowering behind, "Well, we can't make them not sign up." That's going to be Rahm's hope. Sure you can. How do you think the dems and repubs maintain party discipline? Denying the benefits of their party - committees, chairmanships, fundraising, election support. Crack the whip or Rahm is going to walk all over you and the membership, which already doubts where you stand, will de-legitimize the entire organization.
Get the PBPA behind this, too.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
305 Comments:
Not a bad idea
I for one stopped working all the ot opportunities and learned to live with in my means but I understand everyone situation is different however it would be a great show of unity if we would all stand together
Stay safe stay fetal and stay alive!!
This is long overdue. Lets see how the BLM liars keep their hood safe. Rahm has to be soiling his panties.
Wow! I'm impressed!
Trouble is brewing.
Kicked out of the union for making OT? Won't happen. I brought the same thing up to Bella and it was quickly dismissed. They are not going to go after the members. Some people need the money. Getting officers to band together on anything is impossible.
They can suggest but I doubt the City will feel any pain at all.
Should have done this when Shortshanks was mayor.
Ok like I said whenever there is an organized effort in unison to not work a certain day or time frame I'll be in. So to all you malcontents advocating stay fetal put your money where your mouth is. Sad part is many of you won't. You will work and try to justify it anyway possible. So I ask the others that will refuse to work those days call out those that do. Name them on here or call them out at work.
I am on board.
It would also be a shame if the flu spread through the ranks that weekend.
What can the public do to help the CPD? I've attended pro-police rallies in my community and let my elected officials know that I'm tired of seeing the CPD and other first responders being maligned. I"m supporting and voting for Trump and will vote against Kim Foxx in the election.
Yah OK this will work just like protesting does. Doesn't hurt or effect anyone but yourself. The union or anyone else won't be dishing out the extra $$ i could have made those days to pay all the dam fees we have to pay to live in this shit hole of a city. So until someone if going to pay my bills and take care of my family, I sure in the hell are gonna get mine while I can.
Too many cash addicted assholes on this job. If you have a family and choose to work that weekend instead of showing some solidarity than you are a scab jagoff. If you are single and chose to work you are slightly less of an asshole. I get it. I work vri once in a while too. The money is nice. But just this one fucking time let's stick it up Rahms ass.
Trust me. There will be no shortage of coppers signing up. Someone print and post the list of those who worked it after the Labour Day holiday
Wow!!!!! Shocking!!!!! Let's stick together people!!!!!! Not only will I not work OT, I'm putting in for time due!!!!!!!
Good luck!
You will be able to gage how much support you will have if the next contract negotiations go sideways.
I'm an overtime nut, but will follow my union's request on this for two reasons. 1) It's a minor sacrifice, and 2) If we succeed at this, our union has a bargaining chip in future negotiations.
I know the teachers union takes no shit from their members when they say to stay home. You stay home. Publicize this, I'm a VRI whore, but I'm in for this.
I'm curious as to the FOP's motivation for this. I hope it's to use as leverage against the city for our membership's benefit. I'll comply anyway, with the hope this is part of a bigger picture for us.
It will be great if the department rank and file could stick together on this, but there are WAY too many greedy, self absorbed M-Fers on this department. I think it's a great idea, but I have a feeling nobody will stick together on this....as usual!
Off topic. Ugly all over...
Someone in South Minneapolis starting blazing away, and caught a Fire Truck and Ambulance in the cross fire.
http://kstp.com/news/fire-truck-in-crossfire/4208952/?cat=1
I was talking to one of the EMT's daughters. She was p----ed. Turns out none of them have body armor yet. She is trying to get her Mom to quit working certain neighborhoods. She thought it happened in the North Minneapolis, which is bad for Minnesota, but worlds better than Englewood or Austin.
If only Black Lives Really Mattered?!?!
about time. this has been a long time coming. the police are so under appreciated in chicago. nearly 2300 already shot by criminals this year alone and the police manage to get shit on constantly by the progressive media.
Finally FOP! Great idea Lets all get on board for this. It's only 1 weekend We can do this! You will only miss one OT day. That's nothing. They're murdering police all over America and most of our politicians are stabbing us in the back. I'm in!
SCC, while I agree it should be frowned upon to go against the grain, I think it stoops to the level of the CTU (Chicago teachers union). The same CTU who expelled members who felt an ethical drive to provide services to our youth. With that being said, anyone who wants to volunteer their time should be free to (Good luck with that Rahm).
How about this, print this out put it in the locker rooms and all over the district so everyone knows.When assignment rosters come out go ahead and put them up on the blog so everyone knows the officers who don't have your back!! The officers who spit on the memory of all those who have everything!
Labor Day for the workers. Plain and simple.
>factory whistle blows "end shift"<
OK.
Remind me why I should cut off my nose to spite my face ? I rode the short bus to school.
Sadly SCC I already had a PO tell me "screw FOP I'm getting my mine" This person has lots of money too. Doesn't even work OT for any special reason like kids, debt etc. Some people are just nasty and they won't change. One way assholes. We all can sacrifice one OT day a year. Anyone who works that weekend is a jerk.
AMEN!
Vote 1
They should boot everyone out of the FOP that signs up for those days.
If you chose to work with your union brothers, and sisters. You stand with them. If you think you will be a suck up, and go to a team, you may. You may also be a bitch.
I don't really think Rahm gives a shit. If he did he would hire additional officers to bring us back to full staffing. As a matter of fact He will probably encourage us not working! That's just more money in his pocket just saying.
Huh?
Dean must've found his balls on the top shelf of Rahm's hall closet...
Abiding by a very one-sided "Gentleman's Agreement" to not fight back
against Rahm while he porch-rapes the membership after making promises
of future rewards to Dean for leading the membership astray.
Men have had their scalps peeled and lifted asunder for lesser outrages
than the ones Dean Angelo has let Rahm Emanuel slide with...
No more proving how "restrained" we are by taking city hall punches.
It's way past time we flexed our muscles and hit back. HARD!
Dean is intentionally late with this.
This should have been put out for the 4th of July.
There's always next year.
Labor Day?
Bud Billiken Day would have been better.
Pity...
Doctuh Dean doesn't have the barely suppressed vicious
streak of an old ghetto cop.
PRESENCE.
The ability to WALK into any room and have m/fers get REALLY concerned
because they can sense you're not there as a member
of the entertainment committee.
No nonsense... Strictly business.
It looks as if rubbing up against you would be extremely unpleasant.
People want Policemen to be inoffensive, non-threatening and look as
happily butt-hurt as the Cubs new mascot.
It's "concerning" when those front doors swing open
and four hard soled size 12 leather boondocker boots
push off and 12+ feet and 500+ pounds of Po-leece are
on-scene to set things right.
Doctuh Dean should've had his Po-leece face on a long time ago.
That is, if he ever had one...
Movement at fop... Is the end-game afoot?
"We don't understand why you guys are so
hostile, mean and surly."
Good luck, this dept is filled with me, me,me,me's. You have a better chance spotting Bigfoot than seeing unity.
I would not want to be the SCAB who's name is on those sheets when they are posted.
Yeah, good luck with that...you got these douche bags all signing up for Vri so the city does not bother to hire. Additionally, you have these morons who stomped on the new officers who get moved around the most from having duty availability pay.. Not to mention the fact our wonderful membership threw us under the bus by making us sign a contract that decimated our medical benefits for retro money that was stolen from us. It's a thin blue line indeed.
Just like the teachers union who threw out a teacher who taught chess on April 1st, the day of their walkout. Seems to me the union is a little hypocritical after saying how shitty the teachers union was for that move.
Good move FOP. Even the SCABS where I work will not let their names be posted on those sheets.
I have no problem with theses actions, contingent the FOP hierarchy revert to their D1/D2/D2A pay on the respective dates. No Captain's, or Commander's pay for the FOP hierarchy should be paid on these dates to lead by example!
HELL COME ON , Now you know there going to make it MANDATORY NOW ,,, now that they know about what the FOP is up too , You don't tell your enemy what your planning for them, GEEEZZZZZZZZZZZ
Unfortunately I could see the city canceling days off. And then accommodating that manpower to fill the list where needed. I myself will not be signing up! we all have to stick together to make this work!! God bless the men and woman in blue and be safe...
Any scab fuck that breaks this is a true piece of shit.
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
This will never work. Officers would rather loose a limb than lose a day of vri or cta pay.
Good. Anyone that signs up is a piece of shit.
Never going to happen. Our "brotherhood' doesn't exist. You can't even get through to the hard chargers running around doing stupid dope pinches and car chases.
There's too many one way mofo's on this job so it will never happen.
Two words:
Pipe Dream.
It's about time we stop whining and actually take action. What is the breaking point? At what time do we say enough is enough? Let's stick together and follow thru with this, give that fucking snake rhamc, the aclu, and the ghetto a little taste of what they want, it's necessary.
I for one am greatful for this. I hope that everyone can give up that extra boat, car or pool table payment to tell the city to gfy. What good is any of that gravy without your family? Stay safe and give your mother, father, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, cousin, daughter son or friend that extra kiss on the cheek and enjoy life. You can't take that overtime check with you to the big pearly gates. God bless my family in blue and please practice what you preach on the above listed days. Dio ti benedica!
I was going to do this anyway. Some of the days mentioned are RDO's and I'm not working, Tiny-dancer can keep his blood money. I have not decided which days will be sent on the medical. If you hit the med., make sure you stay on it for at least two days and not just one that's connected to a RDO. The only down side, if you're not out of town on the Med., a Sgt. may do a check so you have be home. I'm going to be out of town when I call the medical section and unit, catch me if you can. I'm never on the medical, but this time I believe we have to take action against the system that does not support us. Be safe and never trust this Mayor.
Just like when the majority voted away our medical for a retro check.
How about a thread about the lack of equipment SCC? Maybe one of our investigative reporters will steal another idea from you. Our district is down close to 20 cars, sitting in the station after roll call waiting for a car. I'm hearing it is the same all across the city. I saw something interesting last week. There was an incident where the swat team was called. It took a while for most of them to get there and I realized the reason was because they were driving their personal cars to the scene. Excuse me for being a little clueless, but why does the swat team not have cars? With all the attacks going on all across the country and world, we don't give cars to the only guys who can deal with people armed with rifles? It's another disaster waiting to happen. But I guess as long as the clouted people has take home cars it's ok. Cause you know, it's essential that narcotics, vice and asset forfeiture have take homes cause you never know if there will be an emergency UC buy or a rub and tug joint that needs to be taken down immediately.
If you want to see who the scabs are, you can view the assingment rosters for each day and tour in the clear system where you sign up to work.
Good luck trying to get these OT hungry people to not sign up.
If you can't afford to take a few days off of Overtime and spend it with your family to make this huge movement, then you are pathetic! I understand we all have bills and work 2nd and 3rd jobs, but please, don't be so pathetic and work these days the FOP is advising against. Let's for once, stand in solidarity and show the city how foolish they are using and abusing us. Come on guys and gals, its a few days of not working Overtime, its not going to change your lives financially, so just go along with the FOP on this one and don't be an asshole scab, because it will show you how pathetic and uncaring you are of other coppers lives and how we are beat down by the public and media every single day. I think this is the best idea the FOP has come up with in years, long overdue!!!!! You will not see me or my partner anywhere working special employment or CTA these specific days, cause we are not morons and actually understand that this will make an impact BIG time. And if it doesn't, I can live with my conscious.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
7/23/2016 03:39:00 AM
This is why the mayor does what ever he wants because of asshole like you, there is no unity among us everyone has their own agenda and fuck everyone else. I wish I knew who you were you sorry piece of shit because you don't deserve to be called a brother and should be ratted out so everyone know who you are. I bet you probably bitch the loudest about how we keep getting screwed over and I don't know how your partner can work with you knowing you don't give a shit about him and your brothers in blue what a ass you are
I admit I work overtime but count me in
I need a break
I saw an very old and seasoned officer working some kind of special enjoyment the other day, standing by Water Tower Place, obviously wearing no ballistic protection at all...don't supervisors look their people over before sending them out into the streets? I'm just saying.
Yah OK this will work just like protesting does. Doesn't hurt or effect anyone but yourself. The union or anyone else won't be dishing out the extra $$ i could have made those days to pay all the dam fees we have to pay to live in this shit hole of a city. So until someone if going to pay my bills and take care of my family, I sure in the hell are gonna get mine while I can.
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I agree with what you said but
One weekend dude? You can't give in one time?
.....This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy.....
Yes, there you have it, me me me, it's all about me!
And then you wonder why you get fu*ked by the city and Rahm.
No Union in the world can get you benefits with that kind of thinking!
This jerk must be fined and thrown out of the FOP!
Maybe $200 a day?
It's a good idea, but all they're going to do is cancel people's RDO and make it mandatory. I doubt people are going to risk their spots by going on the medical.
This will not work. I do support the idea of standing together as a union. But to give the City months notice that this is our plan. Only gives the more time to put out an order stating all time due denied for Labor Day weekend. Then days off will be cancelled. The City will make sure of this.
Maybe this is how the plan should have gone down.'
1. Members who sign up for the OT programs would refrain from doing so.
2. All members who never sign up or dont want to ever work OT again, put in for all the days you can.Then on the day scheduled to work call off. You will get suspended for three months , but you dont care because you never do OT anyways.
This is how the plan probably will go down.
1.Many wont put in for any OT , thus giving people who can never get it the chance to finally make some overtime. they will sign up and the winner is the City, they still get he manpower , but saved money by paying the officers in a lower pay grade.
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
Perfect example of why this department is fucked up. Hey asshole why dont you post your name so we know who you are? Post your name and I will be happy to meet you at vri or cat to shake your hand and tell you that you are a fucking asshole. Gotta gets mine, you are a douche bag.
This is an election year move by Angelo.
Make no arrests unless absolutely necessary or detectives are fucked working late
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
Glad I am retired, Back in my day you would have to be on the park car or traffic car 99 because no one would work with a asshole like you. We would treat you like the invisible man.
If the PBPA gets on board with this, then hopefully the supervisors won't sign up. More importantly, the supervisors can "forget" to approve any sign ups for special during that timeframe by FOP members. If the requests don't get approved, they won't get assigned to work. I know, an exempt can always approve them. There's a deadline for these to get approved and my guess is that the dipshits running this dept won't realize what's going on until it's too late.
FOP to publish the names to SCC. And SCC to print the names of the scabs on the blog following Labor Day. We need to see those who don't support their fellow officers.
Wow! Someone at the Bargaining Unit has an idea. Remember this is not a union, it is a bargaining unit. This bargaining unit does not carry the right to strike. They have these initiatives written into our contract. This bargaining unit put an end date on a retirement benefit that will hurt hundreds of retirees who will receive a small annuity because of the ass kissers at the top who put signing a contract quickly for Rhamy at the time of an election to show they were in line.
I'm not saying this is not a good idea but.....why didn't you brainiacs make this call before members signed up a month ago and insured that they would be available or assigned. Regular people who aren't making captains pay or higher can't afford to be suspended from this program for three month's because Deano decided to actually do something.
You are shaming those who actually get these jobs by seniority. Those who are first to shame are those who NEVER work these initiatives. They are the ones who have to be at the neighborhood bar everyday or their photo will be put on the side of a beer bottle. Those who claim in no uncertain terms I don't work that crap because I don't need the money. Those who claim my time off is more important to me as they spend their off time playing that stupid fucking poke Mon game looking for husbands and or liquor. Those who collect model trains and wear a conductor's hat with rhinestones on it a nd scream choooo chooooo as the still reside in their parents basements.
This bargaining unit helped get these initiatives. I will honor the request I f you give the membership more time not to sign up I instead of getting us suspended from the program for three months unless you have alternative work I can get for that time.
Dean you demonstrate an absolute lack of planning and a disregard for those who actually work these jobs because the need to. I would love to enjoy my family and friends more often on my days off. But I planned to sacrifice that time off for the opportunity of earning extra to support them and take care of their and My obligations.
I could afford to miss a day.....no problem.....but 12 to 15 days x 1.5 (three month suspension from the program ) which th e bargaining unit agreed to.....not so much.
Call me when you and the holiday and weekends off buddies are will to give up that much and I'm in. Until then shame yourself for not thinking this one through.
Dyla Hata
I agree with a earlier post call out the SCABS. As a kid my dads job went on strike, we needed the money too, but Dad stayed out likeeeryone else. Don't cross your fellow members or you can find yourself very lonely on this job.
I like the idea in principle.
If we could get the overwhelming majority of us to abide by it Rahm and the idiots at HQ would sit up and take notice.
It's hard to think you'd get a majority to agree on anything though.
Hope springs eternal.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
7/23/2016 03:39:00 AM
You're a scumbag piece of shit.
Instead of kicking out anyone who works special or any other type of off duty work, just drop their union status to that of a PPO. PPO's don't get full benefits until, what, 12 months on the job? If a copper is found to have worked during this time period, cut back their union benefits for a while.
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend
Well, here is the first test case. Don't like the coppers you work with? Screw you, you piece of shit.
THANKYOU SCC ! for posting this info, sure we could all use the money. but enough is enough, im not working those designated days,im following our union on any other actions they request,this should have been done along time ago!
If all you can think about is your Waller in the short term, with no regard for what's best, for all of us, in the long term, you are a SHITBIRD. Really no other way to put it.
Everybody bitches about D Angelo this is your way of showing solidarity I know it may hit you in the pocket start working now and stick it up BLM and RAHMS ass it's the least we can do for all the bullshit we put up with one day won't hurt anybody stay united GOD bless be safe
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
^ See the problem? If cops stuck together there's nothing you can't achieve. But jagoff's like this will screw it up for everyone every time ^
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Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.---
Sounds like somebody needs 4 new tires on their car they leave in the vri parking lot just about what that day at VRI). You are a jagoff not for choosing to work that day- you are a jagoff because you took pleasure in saying "I don't like coppers around here" AND "... This job isn't especially about coppers I work with". For that reason I hope you enjoy the 4 flat tires bitch
Yeah right....officers are sooo over their heads with their lifestyles, and GREEDY, this will NEVER happen.No one sticks together. 20 years on, divorced, HUGE mortgage, HUGE maximum child support,braces for kids .Etc.. and I don't work ANY of it. If I can do it, anyone can. Just be responsible. But it won't happen, not even for a week, pretty pathetic.....it's a shame, "they" would realize how important we really are in a week or two. But whatever, 5 long years to go to leave this nightmare department, city, the peopele in it, it's criminal politicians and media, and law enforcement in general.
If you can't set aside 4 days, out of 365, to show some camaraderie with the vast majority of your fellow officers, you have the wrong career.
If you refuse to support your brothers and sisters, don't complain when they dont support you.
You may want to discuss working these days with your regular partners. They my prefer to have back-up available, when shit hits the fan, while they are working with you.
Hey! I've got Harley payments to make
FOP will not and can not kick you out of the union or not represent you regarding any future incidents however this is a great effort by the union to begin showing solidarity. It can begin with this and slowly over time increase to other things, men and women in blue you need to get on board and start to stand together, we are not the second class citizens that the politicians treat us like. There is strength in numbers and getting loud gets attention as we have all seen as demonstrated by others.
Working VRI - $300.00
Replacing all your tires? $$$
Absolutely!! I get it that people have those extras they want/need to pay for (kid's private school tuition, that new car, a nice vacation, etc), but I tell my guys and gals to absolutley DO NOT volunteer to work on the holiday and spend it with their family!!
Sanction the guys who go against the union ! Plain and simple, you want to go against the unions decision, then get out of the union you greedy fucks.
Are you kidding me? All that's going to happen is Jr officers will sign up. I once hired a guy at my side biz but he had to stop VRI to train on his RDOs. Even though he'd initially make less money he'd make more in long run he just couldn't keep his ass out of his uniform.
I still can't believe people are taking this job, period.
The only way this could be successful is if the FOP reached into the lodge piggy bank and paid all eligible officers the equivalent O.T. SSS.
Car assignments, start times, and partners are NOT rights.
If you decide to work these overtime gigs, you will get the start time you hate, on the car you hate, with the person Everyone hates.
Already cleared this with the LT
Why didn't Deno do this on the 4th of July weekend?
Well it may seem like a good idea. They'll just cancel days off for units/tact and extend everyone else's tour. They'll always find a way to guck us.
Maybe some of u folks don't understand working these OT details you don't pay into the pension, yours,everybodies! These OT incentives is how Rahm is getting around hiring and manning the cars. If the OT doesn't pay into the pension THEN THE CITY DOESNT EITHER! Bang, boom therefore no hiring and OUR/Your Pension looses.
Apparently a lot of you just moved to this city and have no idea how this city works. You think rham or the brass care about this. All they have to do is make mandatory ot for these days. Plus every tact, gang, etc unit is already working all their days off. This is like all you idiots that think not working vri will make the city hire more cops. Wake up. You are delusional. The city does what they want and will hire when they want. They don't care about cops and this few days of no ot will accomplish nothing. That being said anyone who does sign up on these days should be known as a SCAB and names posted on district bulletin boards
Never happen, too many one way m-effers on this job.
We drew a line in the sand. We have no choice but to make this a success movement. If it fails it will hurt us for years to come. Rahm, and other politicians, will know we are weak.
You can find the assignment roster online - print it out - post on here
More hair gel for me !!!
Anonymous said...
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
7/23/2016 03:39:00 AM
The union finally comes out and takes a stand and your response is this: YOU are a piece of SHIT !!!
Why wait for labor day lets start with BLM.s primary holiday "BUD BILLICKEN"
Smart.
I used to work VRI.
No more.
I, too, work VRI religiously. I think the name calling of those who choose to work os not the best approach. We are so judgmental of one another's efforts. I am fortunate enough to NOT have to work VRI, but work it because it is available. Please try to promote this work action with less negativity and more positive reasons to participate in this effort.
Spread the word and let's stick together. It's only one weekend of the entire year.
It's a great move. I hope it works.
Only thing is what if the city sees that most of these are bullshit because they are. Now, we are giving them variable in their bunk crime strategy. This is coming from a guy that doesn't use OT but sees the cunning city tactics.
1) It's a minor sacrifice, and 2) If we succeed at this, our union has a bargaining chip in future negotiations. That's the right Idea. there is no excuse for working these dates, I don't care how bad you need the money one weekend this year won't kill you, FOP and SCC should list a shame list of anybody working and not supporting the union and fellow Officers. And keep posting the list weekly so no one forgets who the jerks are. I hope it's a short list. Wake UP . SHOW SOME UNITY we're not abandoning the public. we're just not workings our day off those dates. Send a message.
So I work in a unit . If this works they will simply cancel my days off. Then I have no recourse . Am I a scab then ? Should I hit the medical and be forced to stay home on my weekend off ?
Most of the guys I work with are selfish and one way. When it comes to the $$$ they will make sure that they are first in line. If the FOP does this and it fails, it shows that the union has no power.
I am not doing any of these initiatives. I am finished with working these OT details. Sure I need the money to pay for tuitions, car and house repairs, etc., but I am not doing any of these details. Particularly for the dates mentioned, I hope that other officers refrain from signing up. C'mon boys and girls, we cannot avoid these details for one weekend, can't we?
Anonymous said...
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
Post your star number, that way I know never to donate to your family if you're killed in the line of duty seeing as how you have all that vri money.
You cannot kick them out of the collective bargaining unit, it would be considered an illegal job action. There is case law behind that. The FOP can't even promote ostracizing members who work those days. So be very careful about the rhetoric.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yah OK this will work just like protesting does. Doesn't hurt or effect anyone but yourself. The union or anyone else won't be dishing out the extra $$ i could have made those days to pay all the dam fees we have to pay to live in this shit hole of a city. So until someone if going to pay my bills and take care of my family, I sure in the hell are gonna get mine while I can.
7/23/2016 12:29:00 AM
Nobody at your job likes you. Nobody on the department likes you. If you think you are setting a good example for your kids/family let me tell you somthing, when they get older and act like you, no one will like them either.
Believe me officers, step back and take a look at yoursleves. Ive worked with guys who were jags and then their kids get on and they are jagoffs too. It is not just if they become Police either. When you are a stroke, people who know you will prejudge your kid when attending schools, little league etc. It aint right, but we all know it happens.
REMEMBER THAT.
Get on boad for once. Try it, it will make you malcontents feel good. You might even live a better life instead of being such a sourpuss, sad sack, debbie downer or whatever other nickname we call you behind your back.
Outstanding FOP! I have been advocating for something like this for years. I have even argued with Officers over this. Unfortunately we have way too many selfish members who only care about themselves. I see this putting a little dent in the volunteers, but nothing too big. Hopefully I am wrong.
"We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." . Benjamin Franklin
I love the idea — but the name calling on this site or threatening to take away benefits goes too far. I work as often as anyone and it's not about living outside my means or my great desire to work all of my days off. I have three kids in catholic high schools — that's $35,000 per year, tact on mortgage payment (modest 3-bedroom), and that more than half of my base salary with just two bills.
We need honest negotiations by our union officials, the fact that most police officers work overtime (all of the initiatives listed) indicates that our base salaries are simply insufficient for the market we live in. Use the amount of hours worked OT in negations to increase our salaries. FOP only brings up OT hours and manpower because they realize if the city hires 1000 more officers, that's 1000 members paying duties.
Why does FOP Union officials get an increase in pay (captain's pay) or sergeant associations leaders get a stipend per month? The first response given is that they do not work any OT initiatives. That proves the point that our salaries are too weak to live in our market and they must subsidize their salaries with our dues because the salaries that they bargained for are too weak. If they made their civil service base salaries, the negations would be better planned and managed.
How about if you do not work and attend the FOP event, FOP will auction off the amount of one catholic tuition amount $12,500 every half hour? FOP can pay directly to the school.
This was tried 20 yrs ago, including pickets! At that time the Union wanted Time and a Half for CTA Special, which was out of the old Kraft Bldg. on Pehstigo Ct.. The picketing lasted a couple of days, and everyone showed up for work. As long as coppers work the "Initiatives" there is No Need to hire. Consider that every new cop costs the city well over $1 Million dollars, long term. If that new hire stays to retire, it easily costs the City over $2 Million if he/she retires healthy and lives a long full life. So WHY HIRE WHEN YOU CAN USE EXISTING PERSONNEL AND JUST BURN THEM OUT AT TIME AND A HALF? Between divorces and parochial school tuition, way too many coppers have to work those Initiatives and CTA. Mortgages are still upside down, and the Church is still charging $12-to $14,000 a year to educate your kids, because you cannot send your kid to most Chicago Public Schools. So, it looks good on paper, but I fear it will be ignored. After all is said and done, especially in the current environment; EVERY COPPER IS ON HIS/HER OWN! Now starting a list of judges to vote out by blocking their Retention, now that is a whole other topic and it should be undertaken. If the Machine felt we wielded that much Power, well that could help our standing. Meanwhile: Stay Fetal, Stay Fetal, remember Rahm's "Chicago Values. Baby"G"
Would be great, if we can actually stick together on this one. For those who ask what does doing this prove? Well... 1.) it proves to the public that we are severely understaffed. 2.) For those that think that these protests and blm hasn't changed a thing, go look a few posts down about how we will soon be unable to un holster our gun unless death of great bodily harm is imminent. 3.) it shows the politicians that we are united. 4.) The city will have a harder time at the negotiation table when it comes to our upcoming contract.
Remember a wise man from Springfield once said, "A house divided against itself cannot stand."
That's what this mayor and city has done to us.
Dean must've found his balls on the top shelf of Rahm's hall closet...
No, they were in the basement closet. Next to the wedding dress.
Stop working VRI altogether! You are killing the pension even more!!!! Let them hire more
They'll just cancel the days off of all the tact, gang and sat teams to fill the void. These are the guys that are going to get fucked.
The pressure better be on the ones who go against this. This is a long time coming and requested by our union. It's official and we need to follow it. The big mouth female in 015 on days doesn't care she's getting her money.
I came on the Police Force to make money any way I could. If I wanted to stand down and do nothing I would have joined the Fire Dept. Sign me up for all my days off.
Problem
The department will just cancel days off and do that whole 12 hour shift thing like they did before. The volunteer thing is for your convenience, not theirs. They will have all areas covered regardless.
CTU was a Strike. This request is for a voluntary OT initiative. Just a bit of a difference as this is about all the Working Police can do due to No Strike restrictions.
I would recommend that the Lodge just suspend (1 month)any members who believes they can cash in and actually think there will be NO repercussions.
One CR# will clean out an officer who has to hire a lawyer with out the backing of FOP.
If the children think that they can eat all the candy in the dish then you take the candy away, and they will still have to pay fair share on union due also.
Please save the story about how you waste your money and your family will starve in the streets your only fooling yourself with your selfishness.
I also recommend that all those FOP board member be required to actually go to those roll call and document which members decided to be a SCAB,
and if DEAN was not going to run for a second term he would consider expelling members from FOP lodge 7 who actually hurt the lodge in going to work.
Count me in its only a few hundred the price of a BEARS game.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yah OK this will work just like protesting does. Doesn't hurt or effect anyone but yourself. The union or anyone else won't be dishing out the extra $$ i could have made those days to pay all the dam fees we have to pay to live in this shit hole of a city. So until someone if going to pay my bills and take care of my family, I sure in the hell are gonna get mine while I can.
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And the above post is the problem. What was the above doing before VRI existed? It continues to boggle the mind how individuals who take a job knowing full well what the base salary is can spend their way into financial hardship. I believe the word most useful here is BUDGET...yeah that's it..In the private sector they get a BONUS which also shouldn't be factored into your BUDGET because you shouldn't always count on getting one! The city continually shafts us with crumbs of O.T. and retro $ once a contract gets settled. They know full well that coppers don't play the long game and only concentrate on short term monies. If we stuck together and conducted some sort of action our pension (long game) wouldn't be a concern. And moving forward they'd be more careful how they treated us.!
But I know the cries of "but I have kids!" ... "But I have bills!" Will be heard at every roll call. Again, you knew what and how much $$ this job paid when you signed up. What none of us knew is just how badly we'd end up being treated and how in jeopardy our job, freedom, and retirement would be affected. Bite the bullet for a weekend and show the city that we can play the long game to!!
Well the way to make a point is not take money out of your own pocket but put the ticket book the anov book and any city revenue producing outlet in the trash do your job but don't feed the city the revenue it needs from us
@3:39 fucking scab, you'll get yours.
@3:39 how does rahms cock taste ?
Mortgage, taxes, private school tuition, car payments, utilities, clothing, groceries, car insurance, house insurance, life insurance....
I get it......it's getting tougher and tougher for our brothers and sisters in blue to stay EVEN these days, yet alone to try to get AHEAD....
This is a great idea, so I implore all of you.....if you CAN, do NOT take the extra work that weekend......
Bit if you CANT, I will understand......I will not embarrass you, nor make you out to be a SCAB....
I do not walk in your shoes...
We truly are ONE out there.....we are all BLUE.....please remember this as we go forward.....we are all In this together
Do NOT be divided in any way.....our very safety depends on it.....
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Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
You are either a troll or the biggest asshole in the department
Just remember, unlike the teachers, if people don't show up for these intiatives, our brothers and sisters who are on regular duty are out there on their own. Teachers don't show up for work they close schools.
This is the perfect opportunity to give a big fuck you to the mayor and the liberals. This can help with the upcoming contract as well. SCC, hopefully you can get the list of all who sign up for any special employment and put it here. Then let the blood letting start.
Take it further, I think I'm feeling ill that weekend.
I don't know if it will be successful, but still worthwhile.
Cheapskates still work weekends for a Sunday paper.
Maybe the Credit Union Branches can get on board too.
Cheapskates still work weekends for a Sunday paper and they rather not leave their comfort zone.
If the real Blue Shirts honor the Labor Day Event it will lead to ALL the Admin Sat-Sun dollies having to work those days...wouldn't that be nice, getting those softies out on the street for just one weekend period?
This is a perfect time to stick together Warriors, here's your chance. Bankroll now for your Labor Day Family Weekend.
(Make the ex-wife wait until November for her monthly stipend too).
Let the HQ and Commanders get their staffs to put on the Kevlar and earn that Duty Availability for once.
-The first call of the day;
"Hold me down in the station on reports"
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
7/23/2016 03:39:00 AM
There you go. This is the "Me" generation for you. Never given a dime to charity. Never shoveled his neighbors walk. Never, EVER, thought about the greater good.
Anyone, ANYONE can access the sheets for any additional days you want to work. That's how you can check if you were overlooked on your seniority. I agree FOP should step it up, but I am not sure they can or will. It will be up to you.
When you find out someone has worked his day off, they should be dead to you. No more forgiveness. Forgiveness is for the weak and the taken advantage of. This scab is TAKING money from YOUR family by working these side shifts on this weekend - actually that includes all VRI, but that's for another day. They are taking money from you by weakening your bargaining power if you didn't notice.
Anyone that works these days should be forever shunned. The Department could cancel days off, but it would not make up the difference. That's how big overtime is. That's how undermanned we are. That's how dangerous it is for us. That's how little the politicians care about your family.
It cost way less money to bury a copper than to hire enough to keep them and the citizens safe.
Why not Bud Biliken Day? Let them have their space!
I work all of them, but I will stand down this weekend.
LET'S DO IT!!!!!!!! If you really care about your family, your career and want to send a message, don't work that weekend. We need to show that we are united, we need to let the mayor and the BLM know that we are tired of the way we are being treated, we need to send a message that if they hate us so much, then they won't have us in their neighborhood when the bodies hit the floor... But if there are some coppers using the excuse "I'm doing this for my family I need money", you just don't care what is happening to all the officers around the country, just think that one day can be you and you are going to wish that your fellow officers unite to protest. Don't be a fool and selfish. What's a weekend of no OT, VRI, etc.. ? It's nothing, you still have the entire year to work OT, VRI..... LET'S DO IT!!!
They're not asking you you to stop VRI and Special for good. It's three days to send a message. Let them see just how short handed we are and possibly cause them to hire more police officers. That would mean better seniority more promotions etc. it's one weekend. If they cancel days off so be it. Then you have to work and make OT. Even better.
NOTHING like CTU! This is OT. CTU didnt show up for WORK, their regular day of WORK.
Good idea but as we all know most coppers on this job are assholes they won't give up a fuckin dollar of extra money. Same ones that bitch about rahm but voted for him. Same ones that keep doing police work when they should remain fetal. It is nice to see the fop trying to accomplish something.
Good God, my heart breaks for you guys. You get shit on by just about everyone don't you?
I'm the biggest whore the department has ever scene and im 100% committed to this i won't be working vri,cta,cha, Navy pier, portillo's all my money makers! It's only one week anybody who cant get with this has signed up to be blacked ball and a butt kicking i dont care if u white,black,asian,hispanic,woman,man,gay,or straight you better not be working! You can go right back to being a whore on the 6th we have to show unity!!!!! We have to!!!!! Are their won't be any cpd left for us to enjoy...they won't hire and we will continue to get raped in future contact negotiations. I'M SO PROUD OF MY UNION RIGHT NOW!!!!!
Unless my days off are cancelled I am not signing up or doing anything. F RAHM AND F FAT EDDIE
WOW! How'd you like to have to head into a fight with this tool! He is the reason police are easy targets. All he cares about is him and his money. Cares less about taking action to help police officers in this city. What a TOOL!
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
7/23/2016 03:39:00 AM"
I know a few in my district that will work the o.t. " it's all about me" mentality. Spoiled brats. Shame, nice idea though.
won't they just assign it via reverse senority if no one volunteers?
First off let me say that I am not a LEO but I have been reading this blog for several years because I care about my family and we need CPD. I have read many complaints about the union not doing anything, about the union leadership getting their own and the hell with everyone else. Now that the union is actually proposing something that has the possibility of getting the city's attention I see coppers saying that they want the extra money and that they will work.
This is amazing to me as I see CPD supporting each other on the street every day. You have each others backs and protect each other because your job is dangerous. But you won't give up a few days of OT to potentially give yourselves a huge bargaining chip for negotiations? Are some of you so blind or greedy that you cannot see how this can only help all of you. How can you be willing to protect your brothers and sisters in blue with your lives but not be willing to give up a couple of days of OT? I really don't get it, this is only one holiday weekend!
As a civilian I have a vested interest in seeing each of you happy and working. You keep my family and I safe from the scum on our streets and we need you. But when you don't stick together in your bargaining there will be fewer and fewer of you to keep us safer. The politicians will continue their war of attrition, they will continue to attack your actions without regard for your safety. The politicians don't want you because you remind them that their policies are failing.
Please stick together. Please show unity. Please make the politicians see that we need more police. Please make the politicians see that you won't take their abuse any longer. Make them feel the pain as that is what they understand. And the same goes for the lawless communities that always demand more police but then attack your every action. Make them appreciate you when they have to do without.
Thank you for all you do, and I can only hope that you are successful in your negotiations. We the law abiding citizens really do appreciate all of you!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yah OK this will work just like protesting does. Doesn't hurt or effect anyone but yourself. The union or anyone else won't be dishing out the extra $$ i could have made those days to pay all the dam fees we have to pay to live in this shit hole of a city. So until someone if going to pay my bills and take care of my family, I sure in the hell are gonna get mine while I can.
7/23/2016 12:29:00 AM
You can't skip ONE weekend? Just ONE?
You are a coward. You and others like you are the reason the FOP has no bargaining power and why the city treats PO's like crap.
You're a Democrat,aren't ya?
bad idea. it wont work and we will look weak......just vote for Trump and convince others to do so. we have to ride out the storm....there are coppers that have to work those days and it would be safer with those extra bodies . Maybe Rahm told Dean to do this so the city could save money....heard they couldnt even pay 5 e.ts...i dont work o.t. and always take time.....this is too little too late. What happened to Mike Shields? Didnt he put signs up about manpower shortage and mention things were rigged.....Dean is in bed with Rahm.....this is like the tattoo thing....take and give back.....same place we started.......bring back the shorts.....why can some wear shorts and others cant.....same temperature outside......it can be a great job....but for now, Eat My Shorts!
If not for VRI the city would be forced to hire-back officers from districts and units. Every unit and district runs on dangerously low man-power and VRI only sends units to select areas. By dismantling VRI, OT would be available across the city right were you work. The city should be held accountable by maintaining the minimum man-power numbers per watch and district/unit on a daily basis. If the city can't responsibly man units they can pay OT or hire more police. They have gotten away with this game for too long!
I will lean toward solidarity on this weekend but would like to know the FOP's angle. What is this leading up to?
Treacherous waters are ahead of us, we need to stay united in these tough times. I'm afraid, without proper understanding many will choice to work and cause a division of peers.
Sigh.
Good concept but very short sighted.
IT'S ABOUT TIME!!! We will see who those, "I don't give a crap about you guys, this is for me, and my family." Listen douche bag, if you think missing one or maybe two of these days of OT mean THAT much to you, you don't deserve to be on this job. We are not talking about a lifetime ban from overtime, just for these days. It's sets a precedence against those, (aka Tiny dancer, no check that, 9.5 and Special Ed and his moron commanders). If you don't think that showing a unified front against the shit we put up with is NOT FOR YOU, then leave this job. Everyone will know that you don't care for us, and we won't care for you.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
7/23/2016 03:39:00 AM
Thanks rahm for chiming in Fop needs to sanction by throwing them out of Fop we either stick together or fall totally!
If someone crosses the line, put them out of the union and they can pay for their own legal fees.
Anonymous said...
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
7/23/2016 03:39:00 AM
FOP should find a way to publish a list of overtime whores. Like this asshat. I bet he is the first to cry when he is denied something and would step over another officer for OT. He must be a pleasure in his unit. In the past, many officers made sacrifices to improve conditions for street officers. With the teachers union, if you worked they punished you. Everyone was held accountable for job actions.
Yah OK this will work just like protesting does. Doesn't hurt or effect anyone but yourself. The union or anyone else won't be dishing out the extra $$ i could have made those days to pay all the dam fees we have to pay to live in this shit hole of a city. So until someone if going to pay my bills and take care of my family, I sure in the hell are gonna get mine while I can.
Really, handjob? The other 27 days in the month aren't good enough to pick overtime dates from? And yes, this would send a message you stroke. The first time something like this is done is a big deal. The media would be all over it. But no you can't stand the family you say you care so much about so you sign up for every imaginable day off to work. Goof.
Count me out. I have kids in private schools and my wife drives a new car. DA ROC
Who will pay for my new SKI DOO. P.P.
People will sign up. Most P.O.s don't give a fuck about the next guy. If they did they wouldn't have been working VRI all these years. We shouldn't need a Labor Day rally for people to understand that the city throws that VRI carrot out there to fuck us over yet people sign up in droves and make comments like " I'm finna get mine" "fuck you I'm banking all the money watching Netflix" We've never given a shit about each other. Only what's good for me.
Sad but true.
It's 1 weekend. Re-introduce yourself to your family and take it off!
I will be more than happy to post the names of all the scabs who put in to work those days. Everyone has bills to pay, so your full of shit. Stand up and not work those days. The scabs are already crying about it.
I'm working my VRI but will I still be able to get free hotdogs at FOP on Labor Day?
Now I know fop doesn't have the balls to put out something like that. Where is the official seal with the signatures. Me thinks its a little fucker from 16 putting it out bc now they can't get vri. Sont get me wrong I'm on board but there's no fucking way fop put this out.
Anonymous said...
Yeah, good luck with that...you got these douche bags all signing up for Vri so the city does not bother to hire. Additionally, you have these morons who stomped on the new officers who get moved around the most from having duty availability pay.. Not to mention the fact our wonderful membership threw us under the bus by making us sign a contract that decimated our medical benefits for retro money that was stole
n from us. It's a thin blue line indeed
Fuck you anonymous, I heard you were the one that signed to approve the contract first because of you 9 yr wd furlo and better furlo on miss. So stfu. We know who you are.
if no one works the OT...and the weekend ends with similar crime stats to years past/other weekends etc....maybe they will do away with all the special employment programs..... VRE should have ended 6 months after it started--- would love to see the stats on that one-- what does the city get for all that money spent- and how has it impacted the lives of those officers,it absolutely makes for "sleepy" tac teams doing part time hours during their regular workweek
They'll just give it to the Sergeants.
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
7/23/2016 03:39:00 AM
The point is that we have been hung out to dry by our city and our department. Our manpower is at DANGEROUSLY LOW levels. It's a SAFETY ISSUE to be this undermanned. We are all in DANGER every day because this city refuses to hire enough police to actually handle the volume of calls in a safe and timely manner. Police are under attack across the country, including here. How you feel about dude on the street or the coppers you work with is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. This is about protecting all of us. This is about showing the city that they need us more than we need them. I can tell you're a selfish piece of shit who only cares about himself. I can tell your coworkers probably have even stronger feelings about not liking you than you have about them. You're the type who hears a 10-1 and drives the other way, and makes excuses for not backing up your fellow officers. Do us all a favor if you don't like the cops you work with: FIND A NEW JOB. You don't deserve to be the police. I'm sure you realize this, but the pay is too good for you to find whatever job you should actually be doing. Since you're showing us that you don't care about our safety, that you don't care if we go home to our families, that you don't care if we get hurt or killed, I hope you have a safe weekend, working with the other selfish assholes. I hope nothing bad happens to you while you wait for your furlough. I hope you don't need an assist from one of the coworkers you don't like. I hope your family enjoys the money you made working VRI more than they enjoy having you there for them. Money is everything, right? You can see the future, right? You know that you'll make it to furlough, while patrolling this city with fewer and fewer officers to back you up. You know that everything's going to be just fine and you'll get to enjoy that furlough with your family. Good luck to you. Good luck to any poor soul who has to work with your pathetic ass. Go fuck yourself.
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
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You don't like most of the "coppers around here anyway". I guarantee, no one not even your family likes you, and what a great example you are setting for your children , hey kids only think of yourself and money like your jagoff dad. "Pout on the sidelines" it's called taking a stand and having some self respect something you know nothing about. What a selfish prick! I sincerely hope while working your OT you get jammed up and we see you on the front page, and then you will be running to the union and the coppers you don't like . As far as dude on the street, like you would fucking know , you are obviously a do nothing coward.
In closing you are everything that is wrong with this country so FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!
This won't accomplish anything. Guys will work. People do what's best for them. Anybody screaming that people who work should be thrown out of the Union and are jagoffs, are themselves jagoffs. To them I ask, do you take one desireable furlough segment and one not so desireable segment in the name of brotherhood? Do you take 7B as your first choice and then 2B with your second choice so that others can get a decent segment? If given a choice of cars, do you take the one without working AC so that others can have AC in the name of brotherhood? Hell no you don't. The dept will just cancel days off for tact, gangs, narcotics, etc if need be anyway.
No way!
I'm going to use this as a way to get ahead. Sorry but I came form the burbs have no clout and just got working day vacations. You guys go ahead and be fetal. I will do even more and thank you for the good VRI dates. Michigan Aveneue here I come
(OT ). A Big Thank You to the 051 Copper that helped out my Sister and Brother-In-law yesterday . It was Greatly Appreciated.
Fuck yeah FORCE coppers to say no. Let's go FOP put a penalty on working OT these days
"Eliminate policing," huh?
OK. Let's put this in Chicago's "idea incubator" and see how the experiment works.
Should have put the phone number for the Assata's Daughters Black Panther Fashion Marching Squad on the flyer. If there's trouble, call them and they will come out and chain themselves together to block ambulances, etc. "Community" up in there gonna take care of it self.
I have no idea how all of us could get that damn sore throat they same weekend too....meds please
Word from Forrest Park is that this past week, someone rigged a live grenade to one of the doors of their police station. It is being downplayed by some as being nothing more than some kind of weapon turn-in but it was in fact set as a booby trap. Still no word or mention of it in the news. Does anybody else (suburban coppers maybe) have any info on this? The threats are out there and Chicagoland is definitely not immune from an attack. Be safe. Be vigilant.
GREAT IDEA FOP
I usually get all OT I can, but giving up 2 days to make a point won't hurt anyone. It happens that I'll SAT/SUN off and I say fuck it! For that holiday I stick with FOP and my family!
Name them on here or call them out at work.
7/23/2016 12:20:00 AM
Someone print and post the list of those who worked it after the Labor Day holiday
7/23/2016 12:36:00 AM
These two have the right idea!!!
Great idea that will never work unless there are consequences of which there will be none. So, for now, it's nothing but posturing.
What's to stop the city from countering by canceling days off and filling the spots by reverse seniority? Then guys with no time on the job can get the OT and claim (rightly) that they didn't volunteer.
I work vri regularly and i would not think of signing up on these dates. Solidarity is needed, these are unusual times working as one is of the utmost importance.
I don't need the VRI money, but it sure is nice to have. That being said, as a supervisor, I will NOT be working any OT that time frame. Additionally, I will STRONGLY suggest to my guys that they do the same. There are still plenty of other opportunities in the month and the future to make that extra money. It'll hurt the city much more than it could ever hurt any one of us who might miss one OT check.
You guys have the support of this tact sergeant. I sincerely hope that my fellow supervisors follow suit.
You need someone from the union to sit outside of roll call for the OT examples and note who goes in and later out them on the blog. Work together and become a stronger organization.
Otherwise, some jerks are going to sign up for it and just say, "Screw everyone else - I'm getting mine."
That is exactly what's left of this department. All the chicken shit children on this department it's all about them "because my daddy or mommy said so" good luck trying to pull this off. There is no unity among them.
Check ICLEAR to determine who the scabs are that sign up and publish their identities on post. All in the name of transparency and union unity!MF's if you sign up and I don't care how broke ass you are!
Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
7/23/2016 03:39:00 AM
Nice dick head all about me oh and my family, yeah right shit for brains live within your means.
I used to think this was a bad idea but even a patient SOB like myself is getting fed up. I think this is a great idea. Its only 4 days. People still have the rest of the month to make some extra Moolah. FOR ONCE, regardless of our differences, etc. Let's all get together on this and stand strong. Seriously, how much can skipping one weekend hurt someone. Lets think big picture here.
FINALLY THE FOP SHOWS SOME BALLS. unfortunately we can never stand together because a few coppers that wont give up the money, they all say I have bills I have a mortgage, I have tuition, well we all have bills! we all have a mortgage! we all pay tuition, i'm in debit up to my ass! but I will not work that weekend I will spend it barbecuing with my family and honoring my fallen brothers and sisters in blue. I don't know if this will work but I do know if we don't stick together on this we will continue to be abuse. its just one weekend out of a year anybody can afford to give up at least one weekend, please stop thinking of yourself for once and lets do this as a whole team. god bless and stay fetal
This little act of treason may be exactly what the midget mayor has ordered little hobbled disability Dean to do. This creates more division among the ranks as they are under fire and be slaughtered by the unhinged. The city is considering the use of armed private security and will push to have less city policeman. Why do you think they have refused to hire more?
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I would not want to be the SCAB who's name is on those sheets when they are posted.
7/23/2016 02:12:00 AM
You must be a troll.
Names don't get posted on sheets.
You will always find someone to work cause they think of themselves only, it's not always about money, if you can't give up one weekend for your fellow po po then there is something wrong with you. your only excuse is I need the money well if there wasn't any special employment at all your bills will still be paid, vri isn't forever so for once do it for everyone instead of yourself.
All the vri guys and gals will be the first to cry when the pension is no longer. They don't realize they are contributing 9% from every paycheck and by actually working vri they are working against their own investment. See there is no money paid into the pension fund for any of the vri or any special overtime by the city. If nobody worked vri they would force the city to hire additional manpower the new hires would be paying into the pension, along with the city's 18% contribution and protecting your 9% investment taken out of every regular paycheck. Nobody realizes how much money they are saving the city by working vri. But here is a ballpark: 18% to our pension, they don't pay shift differential, uniform allowance, they don't pay the city's portion for health insurance (approx $10,000) per employee. The city has 6 Billion in cash reserves plus the tif funds and still refuses to fund our pension. On top of that the police have not only the second worst pension funding out of all city funds but are one of the few funds that it annuitants do not receive a compounded cost of living increase. Why any police officer works any voluntary overtime for this city is mind boggling.
I'm in
A lot of people who normally work this will have their days off cancelled. Angelo has taken a measured approach. This is a good next step. FOP can not call job action while we are working but if we all policed in a professional manner - no passes - the city would be in a perpetual back log. No time for movers and parkers. Brains over balls always wins.
I like the idea but you have to many greedy coppers who will think if everybody cancels then I can get more days, and then the mayor wins again, what would be good if the fop would boot out of the union anyone who worked that weekend, after all if you think about yourself why do you need a union anyway, but fop won't so maybe all of us who are for this and think we need to stick together should post the names and units of all these coppers who will not even think to give up a couple of days for his fellow officers that's the copper that won't even back you up on a hot call. I know I know your thinking how am I suppose to pay for my brand new fishing boat are you crazy! yes I am if I think this will work
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Sorry folks but I'll be working as much as I can that weekend. I'll take the money, I don't like most of the coppers around here anyways. I go on furlough the period after and will be going on vacation with my family. I'll be sure to make as much as I can so we can all enjoy our trip to the fullest. This job is not about dude on the street and especially the coppers I work with, it's about me and making money for my family to enjoy. Sorry but u guys can pout on the sidelines, I'll work a day or two without a second thought.
7/23/2016 03:39:00 AM
I wish an asshole like you would post your name. I understand it isn't about dude as you put it, but it sure in the hell should be about the fellow Officers that work along side you. Remember one day they may have to save your ass. That used to be the rare case, but now it is a far too common occurrence. Ask the P.O. from 18th and Calumet or the 3 Officers from 011 that were almost executed. I swear I hope I never find out who you are, because I may be tempted to knock your ass out. As for your family they must be Saints to put up with your bullshit ideas. Hell you're probably voting for Hillary.
Won't happen. Cops are their worst enemy.
SCC, you're a funny mother fucker. The FOP gave me the male equivalent to the shocker. I liked it! I will definitely comply and enjoy my time off. Well, not stuffing hotdogs down my throat but I'll take my time off unless I'm on mandatory OT, which I fully anticipate being the case. Keep up the good work, FOP. You have a long way to go to getting a nice brass set of balls back but steps like this are adding some growth. Thank you.
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