This is Rahm's Position
- Upcoming negotiations with city unions need to result in overall savings for taxpayers to help “solidify” the city’s improving financial condition, Mayor Rahm Emanuel said Wednesday.
Emanuel's remarks, in a speech to the Chicago Investors Conference, which includes some of the city’s largest investors, signaled the mayor's willingness take Inspector General Joseph Ferguson's advice and use the expiration of the contracts to negotiate a new deal designed to reduce costs and improve services.
Notice how workers are the ones expected to assist in improving the city's "situation." Not a word about slashing spending or cutting patronage or reforming crooked contracting or perhaps consolidating aldercreatures or any of a dozen efforts that might endanger the politically connected.
Everyone on the Department knows that 35th Street is currently interviewing potential captains with an eye toward promoting 44 by fall to run district watches. It will certainly be interesting to see which politically connected persons get a 100% "merit" promotion - a promotion that is going to cost taxpayers an additional $10-to-15,000-plus in salaries, a department vehicle, and countless millions in pensions if they happen to serve four years in rank.
But you little people, well, you owe it to the taxpayers to "solidify" the city's position so that Rahm can afford to promote another 44 hacks into inflated salaries and pensions.
Everyone on the Department knows that 35th Street is currently interviewing potential captains with an eye toward promoting 44 by fall to run district watches. It will certainly be interesting to see which politically connected persons get a 100% "merit" promotion - a promotion that is going to cost taxpayers an additional $10-to-15,000-plus in salaries, a department vehicle, and countless millions in pensions if they happen to serve four years in rank.
But you little people, well, you owe it to the taxpayers to "solidify" the city's position so that Rahm can afford to promote another 44 hacks into inflated salaries and pensions.
Labels: money questions, un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
72 Comments:
Rob city employees and sign fucked up loan contracts which the banks more than double their money--- that's your boy and his name is Rham
The rank and file must enter a no confidence vote on the mayor and the executive leadership of CPD
The department is too top heavy and a drain on our pension. This is why no one above Captian should get a pension higher than captain so exempts, deputy and above get pension based on capt or LT only
Let's push the media to get Rahm to explain how so many connected jerks were placed, by Rahm, in the water department. Yeah, he's Mr. Legit.
The FOP should give the city a list of cost cutting measures for the department as part of their proposal. Include things like:
-Pensions top out at last tested rank.
-Getting those little radios they sell on Amazon for $25 instead of the bulky and expensive Motorolas.
-Fighting bullshit lawsuits.
-Eliminating the useless layers of leadership at the top of the department.
This would show the FOP is trying to be a good partner in negotiations.
Then the FOP should ask for a "modest" raise only equal to the cost of our increased taxes: (since we can't move to a more tax-friendly area)
-sewer tax
-garbage tax
-property tax
-beverage tax
-state income tax
I'm sure I am missing a few more taxes, but you get my drift. That raise would be way more than the 1-2 percent the FOP negotiates for.
Everyone knows that City Union Workers are lazy and don't earn their money.
Police are just more city union workers.
/sarc
Looks like there won't be a contract for some time. And who the hell would want this job.
Not that I expect to get promoted - but I have to ask, just for shits and giggles...if I somehow slip through the cracks and get made a captain, although I earned three different positions on this department by rank score, am I still considered a "hack"? Or do I just accept the fact that I've gone as far as I can on this job on my own without being labeled a "hack," or whatever other terms will be thrown around shortly?
Rahm is seeing a union that is demoralized and has little unity.
He will take advantage of that.
He will take advantage of the hatred towards the police by half of the city residents too.
Unions do not have the answers to modern finances.
It's ALL politically corrupt with Captains(XO), Inspectors and curtain exempt ranks that are not needed. Get rid of the XO spot and make them watch commanders again like before without a take home car. This is not the military NOR a para military organization but a CORRUPT department.
If you make captains watch commanders again we'll be the only police Dept in the country to do so. Everywhere is else it's a lieutenant. Keep the captains where they are and Lts as the WC. Save the money and the pension fund. Eddie will turn out to be a worse Supt than Weis or McCarthy. And then we'll get Barb West, who can't spell lieutenant.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not that I expect to get promoted - but I have to ask, just for shits and giggles...if I somehow slip through the cracks and get made a captain, although I earned three different positions on this department by rank score, am I still considered a "hack"? Or do I just accept the fact that I've gone as far as I can on this job on my own without being labeled a "hack," or whatever other terms will be thrown around shortly?
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Yes Lieutenant you WILL be a merit hack if you make captain. If you had been promoted meritoriously before this you would simply be a multiple merit hack. I hope that clears it up.
Simple solution to come to a quick contract solution. Our union president sends a letter that says no one will volunteer to work overtime until a new contract is agreed to and a specific number of officers are hired. Most will comply and the department that only works because of an influx of ot officers will crumble. No union protection for those who work of. Let's see whose interests you really care about Prez
Captain is a civil service rank, as such there should be a test and rank order promotion based on the results. Competitive testing should be administered now in lieu of merit.
We needs Leadership in our 'hoods to stop all this killings. People will listen to their own peoples so give them good jobs so kids will wants to do good. (That's do the trick!)
I always wondered why any merit gets a taste of the pension.
If the Mayor is putting a person in for any spot shouldn't all the benefits come out of the mayors staff budget.
Let say the Supe spot. If any LT. wanted to be a Supe they would resign from from their current spot and locked in at that pension rate.
Now with all these Captains soaking up pension funds and it is all by clout it should be out of the pension. Unless the mayor wants to negotiate and give up spot with a fair test.
FOP needs to think big
May be FOP should look at that since RAHMBELLINA wants to cut and save.
Why not pay for DePaul's stadium with tax payer's money? A great idea rahmie!
Actually, we need more bicycle units at district level.
Daley dumped all this financial shit on our city. Don't forget that. Vote Democratic!
With all the rich Democrats trying to run for Governor - why doesn't one run against Rahm and get him out of there?
Does Pritzker have the Dem nomination sewn up? If so, let's see some of the others decide to run against Rahm instead. Rahm should NOT be re-elected at any time.
Upcoming negotiations with city unions need to result in overall savings for taxpayers to help “solidify” the city’s improving financial condition, Mayor Rahm Emanuel said Wednesday.
Improving financial condition????
TAKE THIS TO THE BANK!!!! WEEEEZZZZEEEE will be made CAPTIAN,according to her "boyfriend "(superintendent)" Johnson,She is "more" then qualified....
What’s that? Ah — Pensions? Don’t talk about — pensions? You kidding me? Pensions? I just hope we can make a payroll! Another payroll.
Fight for residency!!! Every major city that has fought residency, has won !!
Rahm doesn't negotiate by give and take. He only uses the take, take, take part.
Since blind as a bat Joe Ferguson said Wheezy and her girlfriends didn't cheat you know damn well they're all going to be Capt.'s real soon.
It's all legit.
Blame the police for everything and then ask them to do everything. Raise the cost of living and force residency. FOP better fight for everything and give up nothing. It's time to fight back.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not that I expect to get promoted - but I have to ask, just for shits and giggles...if I somehow slip through the cracks and get made a captain, although I earned three different positions on this department by rank score, am I still considered a "hack"? Or do I just accept the fact that I've gone as far as I can on this job on my own without being labeled a "hack," or whatever other terms will be thrown around shortly?
8/12/2017 12:55:00 AM
The captains list is already done, you would already know if you're on it. This interview BS is just a dog and pony show to make it look legit. This is EJ's final push before he conveniently retires after his surgery citing health issues. Look for the wives and girlfriends to get made yet again. Best and brightest!
Too 12:55AM, no your not a hack your a lying hack! Don't hurt your shoulder patting yourself on the back, what a douche bag you are. I max out in a year thankfully I won't be subject to your BS, what a hero.....
I'm willing to help give back to the city that has been very generous to me. Our next contract should mirror the aldermanic benefits including pay, insurance and pension. I figure that if they're making such sacrifices to aid in the city becoming fiscally responsible then so can we. Just think of the cost savings of having to renegotiate the current contract and it's a win win all around.
He'll never cut anything that could take the free stuff away equaling votes. Being good to first responders is not something politicians worry about. Treating them like shit gets them votes (so they think)
A long overdue solution: cut the number of alderthieves in half.
Better yet have one alderthief for each CPD district .... so right now we should have 22 of those bastards.
Cut the other 28 and reap instant savings for the taxpayers.
8/12/2017 12:47:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not that I expect to get promoted - but I have to ask, just for shits and giggles...if I somehow slip through the cracks and get made a captain, although I earned three different positions on this department by rank score, am I still considered a "hack"? Or do I just accept the fact that I've gone as far as I can on this job on my own without being labeled a "hack," or whatever other terms will be thrown around shortly?
8/12/2017 12:55:00 AM
You'd be a hack.
If that would bother you then stay where you're at and ride off into the sunset from there.
Rahm to heed advice? He's joking or averting some sort of audit.
How's this for Improving services:
like taxing the +$250k homeowner, getting a surplus and instituting a new City Immigrant ID Card system with a full staff.
Then there's the promo-hiring, only for Diversification Purposes that always stunk of cheating and clout.
Feral Chicago is an expensive venture without risk and nobody makes more money than Rahm's Friends.
This city could default on every loan and debt and those select investors would still be afloat.
They always take care of the bosses. Look at Dart no county money, but has the money to CREATE new exempt spots. Then when the budget needs to be cut because of less that expected revenue from the soda tax, guards wiiLl ne cut, not exempts
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not that I expect to get promoted - but I have to ask, just for shits and giggles...if I somehow slip through the cracks and get made a captain, although I earned three different positions on this department by rank score, am I still considered a "hack"? Or do I just accept the fact that I've gone as far as I can on this job on my own without being labeled a "hack," or whatever other terms will be thrown around shortly?
8/12/2017 12:55:00 AM
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You're a HACK company man! Now go get your shine box
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not that I expect to get promoted - but I have to ask, just for shits and giggles...if I somehow slip through the cracks and get made a captain, although I earned three different positions on this department by rank score, am I still considered a "hack"? Or do I just accept the fact that I've gone as far as I can on this job on my own without being labeled a "hack," or whatever other terms will be thrown around shortly?
Your actions will determine whether you are a hack or not. Most buy into the bullshit when the get promoted. These are the same guys and gals who criticized and were outspoken about the bullshit. The do nothings and house mouses that now after hiding inside want everyone else to be the police
12:55AM....Nobidy gives a fuck about how many times you were promoted. All anybody gives a fuck about is insurance and getting out of here. Pud.
Residency NOW!
Captain?! Jeez i will be happy to just make sgt.! I've earned two tested positions in my short career and licked the boots of many old timers rightfully so In all my positions and it would be an honor to one day supervise young guys and treat veterans with the respect they deserve...but as far as the gold braid pension its over if you came on the job after 2010...the most pension you can collect is 106k no matter if you make supt! But good luck to all the interviewees and hopefully no cheaters make it through!
Enjoy that 400.00 hammer I sold you guys.
""Anonymous Anonymous said...
Everyone knows that City Union Workers are lazy and don't earn their money.
Police are just more city union workers.
/sarc
8/12/2017 12:44:00 AM""
Thats OK douche, the cops and firefighters will still respond when you need them or you house is on fire! FUCK YOU!!!!
Anonymous said...
Everyone knows that City Union Workers are lazy and don't earn their money.
Police are just more city union workers.
/sarc
8/12/2017 12:44:00 AM
Amusingly enough, is there anyone who can clearly
define what exactly "Lazy" is, as it pertains to
the hurried re-boot of Policing that is occurring
in Chicago?
>Hands on the clock just keep turning<
Rahmie still hasn't hired any cops he promised. Rahmie still hasn't paid into the pension that he has raised taxes for. Rahmie has made his banker friends rich.
Hunker Down boys. Get ready cause 9 1/2 is coming after all your asses. He wants to show how tuff he can be and is going to a Take No Prisons attitude. Get the best men to represent you or be ready to pay and make him look like a God.
Time for a job action, no revenue generating activity or any other proactive policing. Give them what the BLM wants. No policing at all, allow the criminals to run unchecked, when the body count gets above 1000 and a few victims turn out to be those other than gang bangers and are deemed "important" people, only then will things change. Let it burn, rebuild from the ashes. When the Democrats have nothing left to tax they will have nothing.
Rahm will fix everything---right?
How about Ferguson looks at every fricken dime that has been given away on private projects like the DePaul stadium. Why do we have to squeeze moneys from city workers and their benefits. How about we shrink city government, how the hell do we need 50 alderman??? How about we sell off all of the city owned property that's shuttered. You have schools firehouses police stations that are used for storage or minimum staff. Sell these properties to the highest bidder on the open market. Start marketing the parks and lakefront to business for advertising dollars. "Under Armour Beach." "Trek Bike Path." "Vienna Beef Park." Stop with taxing the middle class to death or for god sakes lift residency. You can't just say "sorry we're broke no raises and contribute more to insurance and pensions." And oh yeah you still can't leave the city for a lower cost of living. Or quit and we'll replace you with cheaper manpower.
WOW
GOD Bless you SCC.
YOU said it ALL.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Simple solution to come to a quick contract solution. Our union president sends a letter that says no one will volunteer to work overtime until a new contract is agreed to and a specific number of officers are hired. Most will comply and the department that only works because of an influx of ot officers will crumble. No union protection for those who work of. Let's see whose interests you really care about Prez
More than half the guys will work and if the union would even try to not protect dues paying members they would be on the wrong ends of a suit
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Fight for residency!!! Every major city that has fought residency, has won !!
8/12/2017 09:12:00 AM
No other major city went before the Illinois Supreme Court who would ultimately decide the case. Most of the cases won were thru contract negotiations
10:53 AM
I hope you're being sarcastic about each of the 22 police districts getting one aldercreature. Since ward size is based on EQUAL POPULATION, even an imbecile would know that your proposal is not only impossible, it's STUPID.
OT. For those who are interested and want to know how the retiree health care case is going
From: Clint Krislov
Sent: 8/10/2017 8:23:39 AM Central Standard Time
Subject: retiree update-wednesday's hearing before judge Cohen
Dear Retirees,
Wednesday’s hearing was a pretty frustrating experience. We presented five issues, on which we felt fairly confident.
1. Our renewed motion for Class Certification.
2. The judge’s choice of orders to enter for the March hearing at which he ordered audit and reconciliation of the 2013 to 2016 years.
3. The City’s assertion that he lacks jurisdiction over the post-2013 reconciliations.
4. The Funds’ report on the actions to fulfill their obligations to provide health care coverage for the annuitants for 2018.
5. The City’s report on the progress in the audit and reconciliation process.
After about two hours of hearing, attended by perhaps 40 of you, Judge Cohen finally ruled that he instead has no jurisdiction over the post-2013 reconciliations, yet he has set September 14 as the next status for the city to report on the 2014-2016 reconciliation process timetable.
Denied class certification again, preferring to await rulings on the merits if the Supreme Court takes our appeal. The transcript should be out by the end of the week, we hope, and we’ll post it.
But I do not believe that we can expect judge Cohen to follow through on actually ordering the city or the Funds to comply with any of their obligations, unless he is ordered to do so by the appellate court.
Accordingly, we will put our efforts into our Petition to the Illinois Supreme Court, which is due September 7, and we may try to get the class certification and jurisdiction issues up there as well.
It will be a challenging but important month ahead. Your contributions are invited and welcome.
Finally, after I presented to the Firefighters union last week seeking their assistance, they instead have sent their counsel to intervene in our case. As I advised their lawyer, if they are here to help, we welcome them. But their actual purpose remains to be seen.
Clint Krislov
Fuck Chicago democrats .. Newspaper in Salvador named 18 States in America.. illegals should avoid, so they will evade capture .. ya guessed right.. Illinois not on list
. Meaning illegals get free welfare, housing, Medicaid,food gladly at Illinois taxpayer expense
I already know I will be a captain. Gotta love this system! I was in top 20 on Lt list, and woulda been number 1 if it wasn't for all those damn cheaters!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Residency NOW!
8/12/2017 11:38:00 AM
Congratulations! You have Residency Now!
You have to live in Chicago!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not that I expect to get promoted - but I have to ask, just for shits and giggles...if I somehow slip through the cracks and get made a captain, although I earned three different positions on this department by rank score, am I still considered a "hack"? Or do I just accept the fact that I've gone as far as I can on this job on my own without being labeled a "hack," or whatever other terms will be thrown around shortly?
8/12/2017 12:55:00 AM
You sound like a real tool
Pension issue should be number 1 unless you want cat food at 60
The FOP should go to arbitration as soon as the city fails to bargain in good faith. Although arbitration can be a loser remember it is the only way to take the process away from the city. There is a no strike clause and job actions are illegal therefore arbitration, good or bad, is the only reasonable solution where-in the bargaining unit has any control.
The captains list is already done, you would already know if you're on it. This interview BS is just a dog and pony show to make it look legit. This is EJ's final push before he conveniently retires after his surgery citing health issues. Look for the wives and girlfriends to get made yet again. Best and brightest!
8/12/2017 09:39:00 AM
Supposedly Fenner was not om the interview list.
Yes, you would be a hack
Interesting explanation of what happened in court Wednesday regarding retiree healthcare it's an update. Read the last paragraph So far the fire union has not donated, but will reap the benefits if we win. The last paragraph speaks volumes
From: Clint Krislov
Sent: 8/10/2017 8:23:39 AM Central Standard Time
Subject: retiree update-wednesday's hearing before judge Cohen
Dear Retirees,
Wednesday’s hearing was a pretty frustrating experience. We presented five issues, on which we felt fairly confident.
1. Our renewed motion for Class Certification.
2. The judge’s choice of orders to enter for the March hearing at which he ordered audit and reconciliation of the 2013 to 2016 years.
3. The City’s assertion that he lacks jurisdiction over the post-2013 reconciliations.
4. The Funds’ report on the actions to fulfill their obligations to provide health care coverage for the annuitants for 2018.
5. The City’s report on the progress in the audit and reconciliation process.
After about two hours of hearing, attended by perhaps 40 of you, Judge Cohen finally ruled that he instead has no jurisdiction over the post-2013 reconciliations, yet he has set September 14 as the next status for the city to report on the 2014-2016 reconciliation process timetable.
Denied class certification again, preferring to await rulings on the merits if the Supreme Court takes our appeal. The transcript should be out by the end of the week, we hope, and we’ll post it.
But I do not believe that we can expect judge Cohen to follow through on actually ordering the city or the Funds to comply with any of their obligations, unless he is ordered to do so by the appellate court.
Accordingly, we will put our efforts into our Petition to the Illinois Supreme Court, which is due September 7, and we may try to get the class certification and jurisdiction issues up there as well.
It will be a challenging but important month ahead. Your contributions are invited and welcome.
Finally, after I presented to the Firefighters union last week seeking their assistance, they instead have sent their counsel to intervene in our case. As I advised their lawyer, if they are here to help, we welcome them. But their actual purpose remains to be seen.
Clint Krislov
Krislov & Associa
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Simple solution to come to a quick contract solution. Our union president sends a letter that says no one will volunteer to work overtime until a new contract is agreed to and a specific number of officers are hired. Most will comply and the department that only works because of an influx of ot officers will crumble. No union protection for those who work of. Let's see whose interests you really care about Prez
8/12/2017 06:06:00 AM
Don't make me laugh. We all know that would never happen as most working the overtime are one way mf'ers who have to pay for their Harley's and cool tribal tattoos. They couldn't part with the OT.
Working class is done with this dictator who is absolutely corrupt. He caters to those who refuse to work, refuse to assimilate into a civilized society, refuse to obey those entrusted with enforcing the laws and those who refuse to obey the immigration laws of this country. So we should settle for less pay and pay more in taxes to support his voting base who have no use for law and order, working for a living or respecting life and property. Sounds like we are working for the Devil himself and his disciples.
I've always enjoyed cat food.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The captains list is already done, you would already know if you're on it. This interview BS is just a dog and pony show to make it look legit. This is EJ's final push before he conveniently retires after his surgery citing health issues. Look for the wives and girlfriends to get made yet again. Best and brightest!
8/12/2017 09:39:00 AM
Supposedly Fenner was not om the interview list.
8/12/2017 10:54:00 PM
Is someone who took the Lieutenant test willing to try and file a lawsuit?
I'll give $10,000 of my money for an attorney to take the case!
IN THE KNOW said...
With all the rich Democrats trying to run for Governor - why doesn't one run against Rahm and get him out of there?
Does Pritzker have the Dem nomination sewn up? If so, let's see some of the others decide to run against Rahm instead. Rahm should NOT be re-elected at any time.
8/12/2017 08:23:00 AM
Emanuel and Pritzker are on the same team. If Rauner loses get ready for the taxes!
The biggest problem now in chicago is that Rahm controls the media completely. I've been in Chicago for years and followed politics. The media now , both papers and the tv is totally in the pro democratic anti cop pro Rahm agenda. Channel 9 with its diversity kick may bevthe most divisive of all now. And Rahm also controls the so called inspector general joe Ferguson. He has never had a real investigation. The old us attorney Fardon was also in Rahm's pocket as he never did a real political investigation either. Rahm snowed him with gangs and guns. The acting us attorney Levins old firm donated to Rahm. So where is the justice? Not with Rahm. He must be defeated.
Fuck him, maybe he needs to stop listening to his financial guru who seems to be running the show with advice
In response to post : 8/12/2017 10:54:00 PM
law suit for what ? If you have 10k ... get a lawyer yourself . Stop bitching there has always been issues with every protional test .
Anonymous said...
Not that I expect to get promoted - but I have to ask, just for shits and giggles...if I somehow slip through the cracks and get made a captain, although I earned three different positions on this department by rank score, am I still considered a "hack"? Or do I just accept the fact that I've gone as far as I can on this job on my own without being labeled a "hack," or whatever other terms will be thrown around shortly?
8/12/2017 12:55:00 AM
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Yes, you will be a hack. If you were blessed in, you would be a hack. Accept it and move on. Congratulations Capt. Hack.
Hey Captain Hack!
Guess what, we'll still check off with zeroes for you just like we do for Lts. and Sgts......
Get your clout to tell Rahm to pay our insurance and we'll leave, asshole.
We'll poison every fucking recruit we come in contact with until we're made whole.
Class of '86
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