Not Just Short Police
- When you need an ambulance, every second counts. But two paramedics tell 2 Investigator [Troll] help might not be there when you need it.
It was a typical afternoon in the city. The dispatcher on the radio pleading for ambulances: “Anybody? … Anybody else available out there? … Anybody available out there that can take a run?”
[Troll] asked a paramedic how often this type of thing occurs. “Daily,” came the response. “Sometimes several times a day.” The instances are so alarming the two paramedics agreed to talk with CBS 2 if they could remain anonymous.
The standard for response time for an ambulance is six minutes. That day in question, there was a 19-minute response for an overdose; a 20-minute response for a child hit by a car and a 23-minute response for a high-risk pregnancy.
This makes the LEMART training that much more important, and maybe even that "Stop the Bleed" program isn't too far fetched as Rahm's Chicago slowly breaks down.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
79 Comments:
That's just plain criminal, and Rahm is up on his
cloud. In a heart attack, stroke, overdose, the brain
can only survive for approx. 6 minutes without oxygen.
Killing them softly takes on a brand new meaning.
Democrats could break a crowbar in a sandbox...
Revisit SCC's "Everyone Can Pitch In" thread
that went up on 06 November...
City Hall is pushing for "Good Samaritans"
to perform CPR, apply tourniquets and stanch
bleeding because Rahm al-Ghoul has gutted
the Paramedics just like he's gutted The
Police.
"Everyone Can Pitch In," is nothing
but empty feel-goodery designed to
paper over an ever increasing
paramedic shortage.
Rahm's next move will be to strip
Paramedic coverage from tax paying
areas so the Catered-To Constituency
doesn't light his ass on fire.
Oh well... Per the usual?
The Police are the problem.
Have you so called decent, law abiding,
taxpaying, working & contributing
citizen types had enough of Rahm's bullshit?
Are you mad enough to fight back yet?
That's the common denominator that Rahm
and his propeller beanie staffers have war-gamed
you people to...
You're "nice" and you're not like the Catered-To
Constituency.
You won't get mean and mad and tear the skin off
Rahm Emanuel's North Shore shitty ass
like THEY would.
You keep letting Rahm take and take and take
from you some more to keep THEM quiet.
YOU foot the bill for EVERYTHING
and you let Rahm get away with giving
you DICK-ALL as a return on the untold
BILLIONS of your treasure.
So...
Pissed enough yet?
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Screw the leMart .. Rahmacide , useless alder assholes need to get their ass going on fixing basic services for Chicago taxpayerslike more Police ,Fire,ambulance .. not bashing Trump for Bs nonsense
Look at O' Shea sheepishly wondering why his ward on Saturday Morning just west of Western near 107 th ,106th had 4 incidents of robbery ,carjacking .. except the citizen interviewed on TV , hit it... more Police diverted to Other side of Dan ryan expressway ..LOl Clueless Chicago democrats
Why isn't Queen Carol Marin busy investigating this serious issue? She's too busy self congratulating her two year old Peabody Award with a new ad for the Legend of Laquan McDonald.
Retired .38 spl +P
Do like Seiser,load and go, He was working with his partner when a handwaver approached them about a baby turning blue and about to go into cardiac arrest,It was St Patricks Day the worse day for Ambulance response times,They took the baby with the Mom into their squad and drove to Lures Childrens hospital and saved a Life,Sometimes you cant Wait.
So remember just one year ago Rahm Emanuel took 1.3 million dollars of City funds to use those funds to defend illegal aliens at deportation hearings. These people committed a criminal act by entering the US illegally. But alas we have no money to spend on ambulances and paramedics for our legal tax paying citizens. He does not care if you die because an ambulance was not available. He does care about those illegal aliens and all of the votes that their family and friends can generate. So it all boils down to his personal greed.
That happens even more on the police side. Always assigning jobs to a 99 car with no other cars available so they ask if there's a car out there to back them up.
Unless it's me, my family, friends, etc. and I know they don't have any blood borne illnesses - fuck it. I'm not stopping any bleeding. Too risky.
Maybe the city should actually start charging people who are using it as a taxi service. If you sprain an ankle that doesn’t mean you take ambulance Suck it up and get a ride to a hospital or an immediate care center
And, our dumbasses will just do the training and sheepishly start using that training on the street, We won't demand more $$$...because that wouldn't be fair to the other unions. We are morons.
Nothing new. Back in my day of being assigned to the projects, we threw many an injured citizen (shootings, beatings, miscarriages, whatever) into our squad and rushed them to the hospital ourselves, because ambulance response was so bad, and this was in the early 90s. We will never have enough ambulances, people. Same thing with cops, we won't see adequate strength of any civilian first responders in this lifetime, Not enough qualified applicants, and the $$$ only go so far. Nothing to see here, move along, and improvise where you must.
They need to prioritize better. A lot of these runs are unnecessary.
Dude and Rahm’s Sanctuarians consume health services at an alarming rate.
Which is why Emanuel’s decision to fuck our retirees is that much more grievous.
We’re not going away for free.
Every last, fucking second here is now being dedicated to thwarting “the Agenda”. The recruits really begin to understand Chicago politics and what post-POTUS Hussein policing is all about. It only takes one or two chalk talks. We had another great session last night.
Class of ‘86
Well, now that we are mandated to ask every prisoner if they want to go to the hospital, what was the city expecting?
Find out how many of the Ambulances were tied up in the Hood with Nonsense calls. THAT right there could be the problem....
Dont let that out in the media. We are trying to bring people and businesses back to the city.
Can you say Big Lawsuits??
This is nothing new. 10 years ago our infant daughter suffered a seizure. We called 911 and within 7-8 minutes a fire truck arrived. The first responders explained the ambulance was sent east and there wasn't an ambulance available to transport our baby. The firefighters started care and administered oxygen (that's all they were equipped to do). We were lucky our daughter regained consciousness and didn't need any other type of medical intervention. An ambulance arrived about another 10 minutes later to rush her to the hospital. . It was a very scary night, I discovered it was scarier when the help we needed wasn't readily available for us (they were pulled from our neighborhood to assist gangbangers involved in a shooting).
No worries. Because Rahm and the 50 Thieves will demand that ALL officers have LEMART training. Then, when that's done he'll sponsor an ordinance which will state that ALL Police Officers have been cross trained as Paramedics, there by solving the ambulance shortage.
Well, does Rahm give billions to Amazon or buy more ambulances and train more EMT's?
Decisions decisions
Whats a mayor to do?
ANYBODY ANYBODY??? HELLO.........
oh yeah, all the radios for the fire department are down waiting for repairs!!!!
THATS PART 2 OF THE STORY!!!!
the service technicians have not gotten parts to repair radios. but the genius boss who oversees the operation deputy director Dan Casey told the technicians to give the radios out broken.
just ask anybody who works at 31st & sacramento OEMC radio shop.
brand new command van waiting for months to be deployed but can't because there is no radio equipment.
maybe someone can call the OEMC management staff and see WTF is going on???
The junkies are taking too much time from normal sick people.
No to mention the banger who all seem to survive multiple round from 9mm.
Drop the narcan and move along...We can call it the ambulance epidemic.
Fine if they pay me like they pay firemen for BLS emt a 4% more. Until then. It just me and mine I will tend to for emergency medical care for the offenders Ill just notify fire to come and they will send the big truck before the ambulance. CIT. thats a medical issue for a psychatrist. Want me to play Dr. Pay me. Every other profeesion you get more pay for your certification and accredidation. Unioun where are you?
There's a PA State Trooper who was shot recently
who is alive today because he chose to wear a
tourniquet on his duty belt. You have to think like
a warrior going in alone behind enemy lines.
This is a great example of why coppers should get more pay for more training. We might not only save a fellow Officer’s life, we might also save the life of some citizen(s).
Are you listening Mr. Diminutive Mayor?
Weird. At least a few other cities just call private ambulances or ask for help from surrounding jurisdictions when the city ambulances are short. Not sure why they haven't done that here.
Chicago is doing just fine. Big corporations are flocking to move their corporate headquarters here.
This is why Hillary travels in a black ambulance.
It’s a union thing, that’s all. Paramedic equipped fire companies are dispatched, they’re just looking for an ambulance for the transport.
how is it that back in the day there were plenty of amb when there was no charge for the ride. yet the city gets almost a grand today for the transport and the service is worse. Out at Ohare they are tied up by homeless runs to RES hospital. MAybe if they had DHS doing something for a change life saving equipment wouldn t be tied up because im cold or drunk. Just saying
Rahm 2019! For Chicago’s own good.
Part of the problem is they send an ambulance for every ghetto rat that needs a ride to a hospital or doctor. It's ridiculous and guess who pays for all those rides in the ambulance? We do because the ghetto rat doesn't have insurance and has no intentions on ever paying for that ambulance ride!
Perhaps if certain communities didn't treat the ambulance/CFD like a taxi service to the doctors officer (emergency room) for minor illnesses then there might be more available.
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...
"They need to prioritize better. A lot of these runs are unnecessary."
11/12/2017 06:15:00 AM
"I gots da bloat..."
30+ years and that one hasn't been topped, yet.
Many have come close though...
The west and south side h ave to stop using ambulances for taxis and mobile drugstore if not life or death leave them and tell them to call a real taxi
I believe there's a ambulance at city hall in case the mayor tips over a waste of tax dollars
Weird. At least a few other cities just call private ambulances or ask for help from surrounding jurisdictions when the city ambulances are short. Not sure why they haven't done that here.
The adjoining suburbs might not object to an occasional assist. But would the floodgates open? Suburban EMTs running all over City? Sure the taxpayers of those burbs would not be too happy to be told that THEIR tax supported bambulance is working Englewood.
Plus liability issues. And cost reimbursement. Do you think a private ambulance company would not mind waiting 18 months to get paid?
Honestly 3/4 of the runs are my die-a-beat-ese is acting up or my head hurts, I need a ride in an bambluance. 911 solves all of my problems and it’s free for me because the government is my parent and caregiver
Retired, memory not so good asked
Didn't the city donate 2 or 3 fully equipped ambulances
to Mexico City about 7 months ago?
This was before Mexico's earthquake.
Maybe they need the body snatchers permanently assigned to ray "I carry your bags skycap" Lopez barrio ward! Come on ray rifles constantly and your were the bitch saying "we don't want the Feds here to enforce federal laws with tanks rolling down archer!"
Two men were killed in a rifle shooting in the Brighton Park neighborhood on the Southwest Side while five other people were wounded in city gunfire between Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning, Chicago police said.
In the fatal attack, the men, both 29, were pronounced dead on the scene in the 2400 block of West 47th Street about 1:55 a.m. Sunday, according to police and law enforcement sources.
More than 20 .223 caliber shell casings, which are typically used in AR-15 rifles, littered the street and sidewalk, sources said. The gunman, who was wearing a mask, jumped out of a gray Toyota Corolla and opened fire before getting back in the car and fleeing east on 47th.
The 29-year-olds were leaving a party and were both affiliated with the Satan Disciples street gang, according to family members at the scene and police.
Thankful no innocent killed, this is great news "pizza for you" at tommys pizza castle! More dirt naps ray your doing something right! God bless the police!
Funny,but Saturday night I came upon a CFD paramedic at the U of Chicago ER. I had seen him 3 times over the 3 hours I was waiting. Hesaidhe is averaging 15 runs a shift. Another friends son works on the west side who said they sometimes don't make it back to their barn until the 24 hour tour ends. That is messed up.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Screw the leMart .. Rahmacide , useless alder assholes need to get their ass going on fixing basic services for Chicago taxpayerslike more Police ,Fire,ambulance .. not bashing Trump for Bs nonsense
Look at O' Shea sheepishly wondering why his ward on Saturday Morning just west of Western near 107 th ,106th had 4 incidents of robbery ,carjacking .. except the citizen interviewed on TV , hit it... more Police diverted to Other side of Dan ryan expressway ..LOl Clueless Chicago democrats
11/12/2017 01:23:00 AM
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Hey Moron, get your story straight!
Why don't you ask a police officer instead of trolling the moms blogs for your information.
1 robbery, 1 attempt on Saturday morning in that area.
The carjackings were 100th & Normal and 88th & Eggleston.
NOWHERE near 106 & Western!
And the point SCC was attempting to make was using the LEMART class for ourselves, our fellow Officers and our loved ones!
Don't comment while drunk. You make an idiot of yourself!
Back in the mid 1980s, I worked at IIT Research Institute at 35th and State. One of the locals in a car on 35th Street got into a disagreement with her boyfriend, who shot her, and pushed her out the door of the car and on to the sidewalk. Our security guard had been a medic in Vietnam in my old division, the First Cav. He rushed out there and started helping her. The paramedics finally showed up, but did not know how to treat a sucking chest wound. They told him to get the hell out of there, and since the paramedics didn't know what they were doing, the woman died. They were black, the victim was black, but the medic was Puerto Rican. He had tears in his eyes when he told me about her unnecessary death. So, even if somebody shows up with an ambulance, they may well not know what they are doing.
OT - When Sears finally closes, where is Mr. Diminutive going to get his boys, toughskins jeans? Probably has a box of 20 x 22 stored in his crawl space.
Our firefighters and paramedics at 111th & Albany are awesome!
They're great people who love serving their neighborhood, but are all too often sent over east to deal with the stubbed toe or the "I just don't feel right" caper, thus depriving our neighborhood of their services.
I've dealt with these firefighters and paramedics both on the job and with family medical issues and they're all top-notch!
Thank You!!!
Nothing is going to change, except for the worse. A political party whose only agenda is to protect criminals, illegal aliens and the destruction of America, and in charge of any city, well, it's just going to get worse.
J.J.
We need one of those political commercials thanking Rahm.
Window Board up companies thank Rahm for the increases in smash and grabs,
as profit opportunities for their businesses.
Northern Illinois Car dealers thank him for the increase in new car sales,
when the carjacked victims buy replacements.
Apple shows their apprehension to Rahm for repeat IPhone and ITab sales,
when North Side robbery and mugging victims come in and replace their stolen items.
Healthcare industry thanks Rahm for estimated $500 million that they will bill for treating Chicago's gun shot victims during his first 2 terms as mayor, as Chicago records some 25000 shootings.
Finally a tax payer thanks Rahm for making the streets so unsafe and taking so much of their hard earned money through increases in taxes and services that can't afford to venture from their homes.
Had to be a opposition troll story, Rahm would never allow or want that info getting out there.
Running short on First Responders and spending like there’s no tomorrow on pandering programs.
Everybody with a bellyache is entitled to a CFD ride and a CPD ride along.
Still waiting for those prescreened bullshit priority 9-1-1 calls to happen?
$3.90 a month didn't cover the oemc overtime, but $5 will be a nice start.
LEMART certainly can come in handy, especially when the young tact inspired hardchargers continue to get t-boned responding to phony ghetto shots fired calls.
Saving a citywide beat car and a bambulance just for GSW’s could be Jugghead Special Ed’s next big strategy to be implemented for the upcoming re-election campaign kickoff for Rahm 2019.
If you must respond, do it safely and drive defensively.
No neck is worth breaking.
to 11/12/2017, 0128am seiser is a great police officer and should had been given a merit promotion but I forgot he is a n/w sider and does live in mt greenwood
First off, every full-of-shit ghetto dweller and prisoner in lock-up seems to be given priority for ambulance rides. This is because they were too lazy to go to their doctor appointment and pick up their prescriptions from the pharmacy, free of charge by the way. The prisoners always have an immediate onset of an alleged ailment once they are arrested.
Secondly, we have the same thing on the police side. The dispatchers constantly read off multiple jobs that are pending with no units available because all units are handling nonsense calls such as "my child disrespected me" and "one of my four babies' daddies won't leave". As they say, "Obama's America and Rahm's city values".
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Fine if they pay me like they pay firemen for BLS emt a 4% more. Until then. It just me and mine I will tend to for emergency medical care for the offenders Ill just notify fire to come and they will send the big truck before the ambulance. CIT. thats a medical issue for a psychatrist. Want me to play Dr. Pay me. Every other profeesion you get more pay for your certification and accredidation. Unioun where are you?
11/12/2017 07:43:00 AM
You are right. You would be surprised at the extra pay CFD gets. Every training they go gets a yearly stipend. Most have 3 to 5 a year as a result of attending training. Maybe something for FOP to look into
Ambulances are too busy transporting BS mentals, drunks and people who sustain minor injuries. Perhaps policy changes need to be made instead of pandering and defensive litigation arguments.
We definitely need more "sick trucks" fires are few but ambulance calks are skyrocketing, due mostly to bullshit "I gots a cold take me to st.rogers" style calls! This is rahms as CEO to figure out, instead of giving billions to help aid and abet illegal invaders and disobey federal immigration laws but some more ambulances and hire more medic! Rahm how many billions of taxpayers money did you offer jeff bezos amazons owner whose personal piggy-bank has 94 billion in it? He has more than bill gates?
This mayor here said no way even though amazon got well over 200 offers to give away taxpayers money:
Mayor to Amazon: You’re offering 50,000 jobs? $5 billion in construction? Thanks, but no thanks
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/11/12/mayor-to-amazon-re-offering-50000-jobs-5-billion-in-construction-thanks-but-no-thanks.html
Excerpt:Chicago has even hired actor William Shatner, best-known from his TV and movie roles as Captain Kirk on “Star Trek” to pitch the city to Amazon. And one city even offered to rename itself “Amazon.”
So rahm who approved this? were the taxpayers consulted? Again more taxpayers money literally thrown away and no accountability! Come on mayor how long before President Trump finally orders his new attorney here,and the new FBI director to look into city hall,county,and state house? rahm predict how many of you and your elected friends will be marched off to 219 S. dearborn? Rahm get the first seat on the bus!
25 or 30 years ago the Fire Department Battalion Chiefs all had drivers and a Chevy Suburban. There was a stretcher mounted in the back to transport the sick and injured in the event an ambulance wasn't readily available.
8:19AM.....
How about they hire more paramedics and start screening their calls before you make the police combat medics on top of everything else. This is why I would never encourage any young person I care about to become the police today.
This is incredible, we actually have reporters that are going to go out there and go against the mayor and his lies? Could this be a new trend starting? Investigative reporting being honest and not going after Chicago police officers dishonestly Reporting stories on them? Is a change Afoot? We definitely need more ambulance crews less fireman sorry to say but we need more paramedics, this is caused by all the Democratic pandering for the people I don't pay the taxes that use the ambulance service as their own personal taxi back-and-forth When I have a cold I don't feel good!
God bless our paramedics they work their asses off constantly rolling unlike fireman 24 hours they are rolling sleeping little if any I have a Lotta respect for the Chicago paramedics! God bless our police also who do the job under the most stressful circumstances a lot of induced by the elect a Democratic structure that is ruining this city this state this county as a matter of fact this entire country! God bless President Trump hopefully he can get something done in our area!
Screw the leMart .. Rahmacide , useless alder assholes need to get their ass going on fixing basic services for Chicago taxpayerslike more Police ,Fire,ambulance .. not bashing Trump for Bs nonsense
Look at O' Shea sheepishly wondering why his ward on Saturday Morning just west of Western near 107 th ,106th had 4 incidents of robbery ,carjacking .. except the citizen interviewed on TV , hit it... more Police diverted to Other side of Dan ryan expressway ..LOl Clueless Chicago democrats
11/12/2017 01:23:00 AM
O’Shea does not care about us on the west end of the 22nd District. Lets not forget, he turned against the Police and the community when the shooting took place at 111th & Troy. He has also let rahm strip the Police numbers in 022 without even a whimper. This guy needs to go find a bartending job like back in the day, it is the only thing he is qualified for.
Uber or lyft could be a makeshift ambulance if you have a smart phone also much cheaper.
Basic boyscout first aid would work wonders............ open the airway stop the bleeding and cpr are all easy to learn and might save your or your partners life. Everyone wears tactical pants. a compression bandage fits very well into them. the cost is less than 10.00 well worth itl.
Well if the ghetto would quit abusing the E M S system. A ambulance is for LIFE THREATENING injury or health issue. Not a service for hangovers, diarrhea and all minor shit that can wait until the next day or drive yourself to the hospital. When you get in a car accident it will not effect a civil claim if you don't take a ambulance to the hospital right away. So if your not going to die drive yourself to the hospital.
If maor Raccoon Eyes or any other clouted politician needed any ambulance it would be there pronto. The rest of us can wait. The Chicago Way.
Anonymous said...
Democrats could break a crowbar in a sandbox...
11/12/2017 12:30:00 AM
Damn.
Ol' Gran'dad must've been pissed
when he said that...
3XL tee shirts?
NY TImes says you don't need the polceces
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/the-unsung-role-that-ordinary-citizens-played-in-the-great-crime-decline/ar-BBEKW53?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
Rahm couldn’t care less about his undermanned first responders.
He’s too busy incessantly pandering to “the community”
This city is a joke And Rahm is a fucking asshole
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...
They need to prioritize better. A lot of these runs are unnecessary.
11/12/2017 06:15:00 AM
They do prioritize. We get sent before CFD on lots of runs. You know...... to see if medical assistance is really needed
They go straoght to the back in a bed by ambulance. No waiting room. Treated like kings and queens while you sit with a worse problem in the emergency waiting room and wont think of treating you till they get your insurance card. Mean time I got a bad case of the shitz is allready being treated after being carried in. And then they start ordering dinner, in between calls on their Sailphone
Plus liability issues. And cost reimbursement. Do you think a private ambulance company would not mind waiting 18 months to get paid?
11/12/2017 09:58:00 AM
Suburbs use private ambulance services when the fire protection district is busy. Either private or public ambulance runs cost plenty, usually between 800 and $1000. I don't think Chicago would want to pay that, although they charge that much, and I don't think the suburban ambulance would want to wait months to get paid. Better screening of ambulance requests would help for one. I was in London a few years ago and I was in the hotel when there was a fire alarm. We had to run out and I was forced to wait in the pub across the street practically in my underwear. The fire truck never showed up, but they dispatched a supervisor to see if a fire truck was really needed. I witnessed the same thing occur a week later when a Bobby requested an ambulance on the street. A supervisor showed up first to see if the ambulance was really needed.
Thinking with the little head will get you on trouble every time. Big law suit when gun used to shoot and kill someone.
They are to busy reviving overdosed idiots. Just let them go, especially if they have need help more than once. Bad decisions have bad outcomes.
Maybe Chicago should see what it costs to use suburban ambulances dispatched by Red Center.
Suntimes and their troll had this story months ago. Oh Pam.
One thing Chicago has to many of and that's politicans.
They are to busy reviving overdosed idiots. Just let them go, especially if they have need help more than once. Bad decisions have bad outcomes.
11/12/2017 08:26:00 PM
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Amazing how those that contribute the least, use and demand the most.
Time to start charging. "Oh, Mr. Alkkjsda, you haven't made any payments from the gunshot you got 2 years ago, if you'll bring your account up to date right now, we can help you with this gunshot. No? Okay, next!"
J.J.
More proof this city is NOT run like a well oiled machine like other big cities.
Fine if they pay me like they pay firemen for BLS emt a 4% more...
I think it'smore like 7% additional pay now
Short fucking brains to even roll the dice
with human life like that. Betcha Rahm's Rats
Security Detail has U.S. Army Medic field supplies,
and plenty of them.
BTW, WTF ever happened to Freezer Girl?
Quiet like Khrushchev with a cold.
Hey, is it true that Special Ed was exposed to late-stage
MK-Ultra and somehow managed to live, only people
think he's just a little slow?
Only here folks, on SCC, best fucking cop blog in the Nation.
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