Bright Idea form Oakland
- Nearly two weeks after implementing a new policy for reporting use of force by officers, Oakland police officials have scaled back the changes, citing a large number of 911 calls that had stacked up citywide.
Since Feb. 15, the backlog of daily emergency calls had consistently surpassed 100 — including, in some cases, high-priority calls, which involve robberies, assaults, shootings and other serious crimes.
The new rule required officers review body camera footage and write a report for any use of force incident within the same shift, a task that officials said was taking officers nearly two hours to complete, pulling them off the street as 911 calls kept coming in. City Administrator Sabrina Landreth said in an email to the City Council that the situation had become so dire in the last week that she was “losing sleep.”
At the urging of the department, as well as the federal monitor who oversees Oakland police, the city’s citizen police commission unanimously voted Thursday to allow officers to report low-level use of force over police radio and in supplemental reports in order to free up cops to respond to emergency calls.
If CPD actually ran by the letter of the law, ordinance, directive, and consent decree monitor, an officer would never hit the street. Or if they did, it would be long after the start of their tour and long after a backlog had overwhelmed available resources.
And this cannot by any means, be considered a job action. These are the rules imposed on us by the Department and political leaders. You wouldn't want us to be breaking the rules, would you? That might jeopardize our continued employment and endanger scarce taxpayer dollars should the matter ever come up in some sort of legal proceeding.
Opinions?
And this cannot by any means, be considered a job action. These are the rules imposed on us by the Department and political leaders. You wouldn't want us to be breaking the rules, would you? That might jeopardize our continued employment and endanger scarce taxpayer dollars should the matter ever come up in some sort of legal proceeding.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
77 Comments:
Add that to all the bs elearning we have to waste our time on too
Yet another example of stupidity. No different than the fools emptying the shelfs of bottled water. Cause, corona virus clogs the water pipes.
Fuck em. Bring it on. Let the city burn. You reap what you sow
Policing by rule. It would be hilarious.
Would be fun. Let's wait until July to do it, though.
I am waiting for the day that the Democrats remove police from their city.
Must be one hell of a buffet
we could bring the mayor, the politicians and the rest of the sjw's to their knees if the we'd just stop the proactive crap and only answer the 911 calls.
O.t.
It's been a while since I read a post on here of some guy bragging about his deferred comp performance.
I guess their too busy catching up with the preppers.
Got toilet paper ?
Meh, stay fetal.
I find that very interesting. One of Saul Alinsky’s “Rules For Radicals” is "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
Funny how that may become the most suitable way of dealing with the radicals themselves.
Oversight to the point of inefficiency. The system grinds to a halt if you follow every rule and order as written.
Not a bad plan, but requires a concerted effort by the masses in order to work.
Oakland PD has been working under a consent decree for 17 years. It was supposed to be for 5 years. Everyone from the federal judge overseeing it, the monitor implementing it, to the politicians trying to comply have been a failure. This isn't about better policing. It's about the $17 million the taxpayers have paid for this. Those progressives gotta get paid. What a grift.
OT Reminder to ya'll
21 Days until street cleaning season 2020 starts.
https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/streets/provdrs/streets_san/svcs/street_sweeping2020.html
Retired guy here.
Always said that the best job action is to work the job to letter of the orders.
No shortcuts.
Bring the Department to a grinding halt.
Activist civilians dictating LEO policy and procedures and discipline... Jesus H fuckin Christ.
Fortunately I checked out a few years ago; I don’t care. This DEPT can sink, this shithole city can burn, all the fucking political animals can eat each other; they don’t want police, and I abide. 1st & 16th. And when I’m done, fuck off.
Where's the storage facility? Tell him about the twinkie....
The dept will fuck you over using rules so...
The wheels are turning
The buttermilk is churning
The gears are spinning
No tears
Just grinning!!!
Thank the next mutt who gives cause to use force, any force, picking your boogers force.
Then......
Milk it!!!!
How about when you, as a police officer, are the victim of an assault or battery and you use no force to make an arrest? Data, according to law, must be tracked when a police officer is a victim of an assault or battery. The way the department has chosen to track this data is through the trr. So now because you have completed a trr, even though you have used no force to make an arrest, the invisible institute, civil attorneys and the department says you have been involved in a use of force incident. Waste of time. Find another way to track the data.
Hey give them what they demand. Kind of helps you all be fetal. End result will be more hiring or a rapid change in policy. But article mentioned Grannies firing but did not say why. Anyone have the inside info on that?
So isn't sitting in the comfort of the station writing reports much better than patrolling the Ghetto? Seems like a win for the CPD, the citizens not so much.
OH Unlike the stock market the body count in city is trending up. Direct result of better marksmanship.
Sounds like Granny Clampett was trying to be part of the change. We worry about Beck & company but imagine if she ended up as Supt.?
And a big FU to Rahm while he hits the media promoting his new book of lies that mayors now run the world! This book is merely fiction to be read while vacationing at Fantasy Island-but don't buy the book-borrow it from a library. Don't give a cent to the Wilmette Weasel.
Retired.38 spl+P
Yes, pay attention. This is the leftist utopia. Our future. Where criminals run free and police wear chains.
We should have legal representation in the station 24/7! Assisting with report writing and trr’s.
bright bulb, no doubt. reflective upon leadership.
will collapse under it's own weight....what's the matter with
police today? hamstrung by gadgets, foolish in nature,
odd by comparison. we see parallels here, do you?
act now while you can still get out. it's not worth it.
OT . Two things
1. Is the city going to supply officers hand sanitizer? Can’t find it anywhere.
2. For all the new coppers, if there was ever a time for you to jump in w both feet w deferred the time is now.
Oakland=Cesspool.
(OT)
Coronavirus in Illinois: 3 Chicago-Area Schools Closed Over Exposure Concerns
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/coronavirus-in-illinois-3-chicago-area-schools-closed-over-exposure-concerns/2234166/
You read the article and it’s like anyone that’s even talked to a patient that may have this virus don’t have to go to school don’t have to go to work, and our line of work how many people do you think they were talking to that have this virus? How many of them are we or the paramedics in contact with? The entire country of Italy is under quarantine think about that are we next? Not counting all the people that are coming in illegally with all the Disease that they are bringing it!
Do you think this is all a panic or do you think this may be real and you’re not telling us all about it?
Its a real shame that it takes a politician losing sleep instead of something like common sense in order for policy change.
Someday soon Americans will have said enough foolishness. Can't survive a fight with your hands tied behind your back. Let these citizens boards deal with the violent offenders, whilst our blue write parking tickets on empty cars ot look for lawns with a blade of grass out of place.
OT:
I’m retiring in May.
Do retirees have to pay their water bills?
Get your coffee and maybe a sweet treat, make sure you have a chair that isn't broken. Then type your report, take your time, check your spelling and punctuation, do your job. Police like a progressive.
A good commie....
Is a dead commie....
We Are All Replaceable
Oakland, another great community in California. Another reason why a record number of people are fleeing that state. I really wish they would all stay there and perhaps we could put up a wall to keep them from ever leaving. A large number of them are moving to Texas.
With regard to hiring here's what's important, "The department brought on a record 108 officers last year, and a record 39% were people of color, while 18% were women, according to Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan. So there you have the progressive mantra. They can be little and fat, out of shape SJW types, racists haters, but if the right color and gender, it's a magnificent triumph. No mention of how many trans folks they hired. Got to have some of those too or you aren't truly progressive. Seattle used to be a nice place long ago, now it's a crap hole.
Minor but relevant
How many years were watch commanders running training videos and documenting officers as actually attending the training, even tho they had already hit the street.
Before I retired I reviewed my trading record and I was shocked at what I was supposed to have been exposed to in training.
If we let them burn the City to the ground as some suggest, what impact would that have on my pension?
Anonymous said...
O.t.
It's been a while since I read a post on here of some guy bragging about his deferred comp performance.
I guess their too busy catching up with the preppers.
Got toilet paper ?
3/10/2020 12:17:00 AM
Don’t understand your point. Are you making fun of the coppers who choose to invest in their own retirement instead of relying on just their pension? Are you laughing that the stock market is tanking and that people are loosing money after years of gains? Are you saying you were the smarter person by not investing and instead being a “prepper” and having toilet paper?
Old union tactic “work the rule.” It can be very effective. In this anti-police culture you can’t go wrong.
I like it.
Puts the brakes on knuckleheads doing all this bs hard charging. Keeps knuckle-headed Sgts inside and off streets to review and approve reports too. This is what the City wants...let them have it.
Call takers are one thing, but earlier Dispatchers knew how to manage the bs calls, stacking bs and using discretion. Even some Beat cars would take a low priority call or two and stack them on the way just to clear up the board.
There once was a time when in a rare instance a job was pending, usually at watch change that required a case report.
We went through 6 superintendents since the new fraud laden OEMC was established, each having their own version on assignment call management to weed out frivolous calls, and still over 25 years later they’re still assigning every bs bellyache call, exception is still to go look for something that Fire won’t go out for.
Remember when the merit moron eggheads changed the duty hours causing vehicle to become unavailable due to overlapping, creating the midnight X-car?
This new accountability approach when implemented here by The Summer of Larri after the next new historic first superintendent gets (insert pronoun) nouveau strategizing wits laid out.
Too much real crime by protected feral youth, causing chases and assists, leading to nonsense crime scenes for everything CookCo doesn’t prosecute. Chasing after the feral for an arrest is utter stupidity and then try to justify it by writing about it is a trap.
We have an angry, vindictive and twisted idiot for a mayor.
O.W.Wilson and Jane Byrne are not coming back.
This is not our city, our Department to manage.
Leave it to the imbeciles that were elected that write and bend the rules.
Stay out of the ghetto. Self Quarantine 1st & 16th
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I read this today:
“God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference.”
– American pastor, theologian, Reinhold Niebuhr (1892-1971)
I agree SCC. I've been saying to friends for a long time now that we should all do EXACTLY what the orders and policy require. You would be on the street less than 1/3 of your shift.
What you should have is remedial English to help out on the reports.
If any supervisor orders you to stop reviewing video, document in a report. Cover your ass. Neither City nor a boss will.
A very reliable source from the inside said that the Supt position has been selected, and let's just say boys and gals...it's not the Dallas or L.A. Guy. Keep your ears opened and eyes peeled.
do it Now , punk says he's going to kill you , kick your ass , do the fkn case report ,
do not give any breaks for No DL , Suspension , No car insurance or city vehicle license
in fact write cracked windshields , cracked tail light
use the laws , start doing premise checks in every business on your beat , clog the courts
if this comes to the cpd, just write the reports very slowly. watch wat happens.
Isn’t Oakland where Granny Mc whatever her name was went? Similar to the hair brained ideas she had here. She would have been Mayor “Lori Light in the Loafers” first choice for Superintendent if she stuck around. Gilded birds of a feather.
Another example of the orchestrated destruction of our belived country. They need to add water works to the Statue of Libertys eyes to show her crying.
Before I retired, as a supervisor, I would rush through the paperwork and try to get myself and the officers back on the streets. If I was still working, I would not fight the complex system at all. I would recommend every sergeant and every police officer to immediately go into the station and fill out all required reports. Take you time and do it correctly. Don't leave yourself open to criticism . I still recall that poor sergeant in 008 who was fired just for signing a report that he did not have any real knowledge if the contents were accurate because he was not present on the scene. But, none of the gold stars who signed off on any command channel review or field deputy or WC investigations were touched.
Don't break the system to make the system Work. Adhere carefully to the rules imposed. If this causes problems for management then it is time for them to alter the regulations.
whats the problem, id stay down on that report for 6 hours. sorry sarge, gotta make sure everythings correct. after that, im clear give me my 30 min! lol
There is a lot of talk going on about the FOP runoff for president. Cantanzara finished first and 17 members of his ticket got elected. Graham finished 2nd but only one of his guys got elected.
Right now Graham is an empty holster with Donahue running the board. Donahue is going to neutered by this new board.
Questions:
If Graham somehow wins the runoff he gets to appoint the 6 field reps???
But if the board of directors refuses to approve his picks then the elected members all serve as field reps???
There are a very few people people pushing Kevin now. The rumor is they have have been promised field reps spots. Does Graham have any power to do anything? Is he promising stuff he cant’ deliver? ??
Chicago administration is once again so full of crap in its deranged thinking on how to destroy the city's policing services. The Imp continues to pursue with a vengeance her personal attacks on the police. Her Socialist beliefs and perceived Police Community suffering has blinded her senses and reasoning. She has made it her purpose in life to implement the complete and total destruction of modern urban policing in Chicago.
She will succeed with the help and support of the Socialist Democrat Party, Kim Foxx, the Black Robes, the Community and lazy and unattentive voters. All embrace the Imp's blind destructive plan.
With no contract for the past three years, continued disrespect, punitive and senseless Boards of Reviews and playing the blame game, Groot has barricaded herself in her 5th floor castle. She has relinquished her responsibility to public safety and the protection of it's citizens. The election is coming up in the next week and will either fortify Groot's plan to destroy the Chicago Police Department or save it. Groot supported Foxx - enough said.
FYI the recently SCOTUS ruling said you do not have pay union dues. Now the winner is suing for all his dues back. If he wins it is a big retro check coming his way. How about you? Your getting nothing for your money why are you paying?
Technically it is a work action. It's called "Work to Rule". Not sure how it would be interpreted. Likely NOT in our favor.
Recently retired as a supervisor and just want to say SCC that you are spot on. Now, that said, I always told the troops to complete every report and to take their time doing so. You wouldn't believe the pushback I got. "Oh, he nitpicks. Oh he's a stickler for details". Well, damn right! COPA does not care how long it took you to complete the paper, the only thing that matters is if you did it, and did it correctly. So, if you are down on paper, so it is. Any boss that gives you shit for that is a fool. Let it burn. And always, always, remember: STAY FETAL. Or, hey, they could hire more police. Nah!
Hey Groot... here to report 2 more citizen families are on there way out of the lawless utopia our democratic overseers are building for the surfdom peasantry. In this case it’s my neighbor Doctor and her husband... and my wife’s uncle who hold a high managerial position at AT&T. AT&T have close down a section because the local workers are too lazy... their jobs are relocating over seas. But at the end of the day a quarter of them can get a $15 an hour job or apply to CPD and get railroaded out of a job a few years down the road
Anonymous said...
Yes, pay attention. This is the leftist utopia. Our future. Where criminals run free and police wear chains.
3/10/2020 02:55:00 AM
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And don’t forget the 1984 aforemention; 2 + 2 = 5.
People are taught what is not so. And males sit down to pee
OT: I think I found the city's plan for the virus outbreak. It is what keeps public transportation safe from "gun violence" so it should work just fine!
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thank the liberal democratic party, they know what's best for us and every citizen. pay your taxes, wait for police response, keep voting democrat and shut up!! lmfao
Heh!
The mind-locked fixation and the headlong rush
in America's large, liberal democrat/progressive
controlled urban centers seems to surely come
bundled with much unintended consequences.
No?
"Police Reform needs to happen hard, fast and right now!"
Why, actually?
Hard, fast and right now to/at/on WHOM?
Hard, fast and right now at WHOSE expense?
It's like they desperately want to chain the exit doors
to prevent Policemen from escaping the "Justice" (read
as REVENGE writ large) of "The Community."
Liberals/Prog-Tards and "tha' communerty" getting EXACTLY
what they want until what they want has them bent awkwardly
over the back porch banister.
"EEYAAHH! OWW! STAAHHPIT!
This was supposed to happen
to those Cops! Why is it happening to US?"
They eagerly sought to over-write the "Police Hard-Drive"
with as much perpetual grievant/community, #blm, sjw and
aclu sourced BULLSHIT so as to render The Police wholly
unable to uphold the Peelian Principles of enforcing laws
governing Public Order, Public Peace and Public Safety.
And with the advent and continuing support of the implied
impunity of "Permission Slip Criminality" being conferred
upon the perpetual grievant class of peoples an' folkses
by Cabrini Kim Foxx, actual "Law Enforcement" having the
legally sanctioned authority to luxuriously lavish law
enforcement upon the hyper-violent, death-loving, civilized
society-hating asses most desperately in need of being thusly
lavished, is at a legislative and judicially ordained stand-still.
...By deliberate design
...In the name of "Police Reform."
Give these progressive lunatics NOTHING to hurt YOU with.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
Anonymous said...
A very reliable source from the inside said that the Supt position has been selected, and let's just say boys and gals...it's not the Dallas or L.A. Guy. Keep your ears opened and eyes peeled.
3/10/2020 10:21:00 AM
It might be announced soon!
I’ve always said that if you want to paralyze CPD all you’d have to do is follow every general order to a t.
Now there’s even much more nonsense and bullshit than the G.O.’s
et another example of stupidity. No different than the fools emptying the shelfs of bottled water. Cause, corona virus clogs the water pipes.
All this time I was hording the corona cerveza. dummy me
Everyone knows that every mega-city is a liberal communist 3rd world shit hole. Proven fact. You libs are going to get what you truly deserve in the long run.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A very reliable source from the inside said that the Supt position has been selected, and let's just say boys and gals...it's not the Dallas or L.A. Guy. Keep your ears opened and eyes peeled.
3/10/2020 10:21:00 AM
Yea we know. It’s the chick from Aurora PD. There was an entire thread on it.
Just keep voting democrat and you’ll regret your actions. Can you see what it’s done for you so far?
When you allow liberals to be in charge of things they think they understand. Illinois in a nutshell. That's why this state is broke and overrun with criminals.
....Are you laughing that the stock market is tanking and that people are loosing money after years of gains? Are you saying you were the smarter person by not investing and instead being a “prepper” and having toilet paper?
3/10/2020 08:24:00 AM
No gain is realized if you don't sell for more than you paid.
No loss is suffered if you don't sell for less than you paid.
Dividends, aka stock earnings, go up and go down, yet still manage to be greater than most other investments.
Investing in stocks is, to some, no different than gambling on their chosen horse.
These are the chumps that others are realizing gains from.
To others, investment means investing, stocks are assets to hold and realize gains from dividends.
To know the difference is to know your purpose in choosing stocks to invest in.
Dummies don't get it.
Thus, dummies get fleeced.
And the chumming of the waters the dummies choose to see the stock market as is as obvious as the poverty pimps, aka democrats, riling up the rabble over nothing.
Technically it is a work action. It's called "Work to Rule". Not sure how it would be interpreted. Likely NOT in our favor.
3/10/2020 02:22:00 PM
Technically, you are an idiot.
What purpose are the rules, if not to be adhered to and followed to the letter?
It’s the space and the light that has put the ZAP on their west coast brains.
We should have legal representation in the station 24/7! Assisting with report writing and trr’s.
The only time i got suspended was the one time i used an fop lawyer
OT: Sanctuary city now in a panic that it’s coronavirus cases are skyrocketing, pathetic. Can’t wait to leave.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A very reliable source from the inside said that the Supt position has been selected, and let's just say boys and gals...it's not the Dallas or L.A. Guy. Keep your ears opened and eyes peeled.
3/10/2020 10:21:00 AM
Yea we know. It’s the chick from Aurora PD. There was an entire thread on it.
3/10/2020 07:59:00 PM
Oh so you know huh? I know about the thread, she was one of the three but nothing was concrete. Tell me again about how much you know??
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There is a lot of talk going on about the FOP runoff for president. Cantanzara finished first and 17 members of his ticket got elected. Graham finished 2nd but only one of his guys got elected.
Right now Graham is an empty holster with Donahue running the board. Donahue is going to neutered by this new board.
Questions:
If Graham somehow wins the runoff he gets to appoint the 6 field reps???
But if the board of directors refuses to approve his picks then the elected members all serve as field reps???
There are a very few people people pushing Kevin now. The rumor is they have have been promised field reps spots. Does Graham have any power to do anything? Is he promising stuff he cant’ deliver? ??
3/10/2020 02:03:00 PM
???????????
The guy from Graham’s ticket who was elected was DiMaria who is loyal to Donahue not Graham. Casiano is endorsing Graham because Kevin promised him a field rep spot. Ray is not too bright. The full board would have to approve Kevin’s picks and that’s not going to happen. As an outsider I’d handicap Hauser and Trevino both jumping off of the Donahue ship. All they worry about is where the next free dinner or round of drinks are coming from. Two wasted spots. So Donahue will have three disciples on the board to do his bidding DiMaria, Quinn, and Quaid. How long will it take before they are sick of being called Mark’s three stooges? I don’t know Quinn or Quaid but you have wonder when they realize Donahue is only a user
If you don't like the speed at which I work, I guarantee you will not like the next one.
do it Now , punk says he's going to kill you , kick your ass , do the fkn case report ,
do not give any breaks for No DL , Suspension , No car insurance or city vehicle license
in fact write cracked windshields , cracked tail light
use the laws , start doing premise checks in every business on your beat , clog the courts
Boss, reverse psychology only works on the stupidos. Your success rate of gassing the crowd here is extremely low.
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