Inflated Pensions
After reading this chart, it should be quite obvious to those that don't know any better, that the inflated pensions of the politically connected need to be reformed gutted:
The most obvious change that needs to take place is the highest pension must be capped at the highest promotable rank. You shouldn't be getting extra tens of thousands because you are connected to some crooked politician.
The second reform that should be passed (but never will be) is that if you didn't pass an exam to get the higher position in rank order, then you get only the pension to which you would otherwise be entitled.
- for example, if you spent most of your career at the Academy chasing tail, and never once passed a promotional exam high enough to get promoted, then you retire at the Patrolman's rate.
But that would be completely out of the realm of possibility, right? Who would promote someone like that?
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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You think those are bad? Check out what the retired superintendents and teachers get up on the north shore...
One of those superintendents retired, she gets something like $300K/yr or more... and to top it off, she went out and started her own recruiting firm for superintendents and principals... Fucking ripoff.
CFD has a brass bill. Why doesn't CPD?
I know people that have made merit because of.... their merits. They were actually great POs. That's what's it's meant to be. Now, a good deal are political favors. Promotions based solely off a part 2 test isn't the best answer either. I worked in 001 and the first class of Sgts that came to 001 was a secretary as a PO, and the other was over 300 lbs. The latter Sgt couldn't even tie her shoes. I don't say it to be mean but how can you be on the street 99 and have 0 tactical ability.
Some on that list are as old as dinosaurs and should be extinct sooner than later.
Limon has been retired for 16 years. million in pension payments along with positions as a suburban police chief and other jobs not bad.
Shhhhit...Talley at $212,000 ....
You go girl....Living large
Who would promote someone like that?.....
Someone who shares the tail he catches....
exempts are OVERRPAID
Get rid of the police Gold Braided pension. The Chicago fire department gold badges get their pensions paid out at their civil service rank. Meaning the rank they test for.
Pensions should be at civil service rank. How many chiefs and deputy chiefs were there 30 years ago? Anyone? The department is a bit top heavy!! There's a commander for everything now.
I'll just sit here and wait for that to happen.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Cline and Molloy are two of the greediest cs's going.
A bloated pension is not enough.
They use the CPMF to grab even nore money.
Phuque Phat Phil and BIFF Molloy.
Doesn't the Chicago Police Memorial Fund CEO get around _175,000 for that position as well as his pension from CPD as a former Superintendent ? You would think the service to the Memorial Fund would be almost of a volunteer status but that's not the way Chicago operates.
Silly Rabbit says...
It's not what you know,...It's who you blow.
Nothing anyone does in a career, except making it themselves, deserves 200k pension on the back of others. Sorry, no one.
Gimme dat money and don’t ax me no questions
Do they or did they pay into our pension system at their rank?
Retired in Texas……
Been saying to anyone who will listen that gold braid pensions have to go. It’s an unnecessary drain on our pension system.
A Lts pension should be the cap….its a comfortable pension trust me.
And dump that unnecessary useless captain rank. Any sergeant or patrolman can do what a captain does.
Just my 2 cents.
Stay safe out there boys N girls…and everything in between.
Those salaries and pensions are highway robbery. The current exempts have failed miserably at implementing and executing strategies to make the city safe. Uncontrolled crime. Murders, shootings, robberies, you name it. Horrible clearance rate. If “executive” compensation was tied to performance these cats would be pulling less than a patrolman.
Phill Cline 199k pension plus 150k police memorial foundation salary scam. Haha blueshirts keep donating money.
7k a year in college fund for officers’ kids but 2mil a year for salaries of the connected. The scam keeps going.
for example, if you spent most of your career at the Academy chasing tail, and never once passed a promotional exam high enough to get promoted, then you retire at the Patrolman's rate.
You're going to require a hefty superintendent's pension to pay for all those babies and their mommas, take the current mayor for example...
What about all of the 150+ on Brandon’s detail many are security specialist, commanders, lieutenants pay. They will get that as a pension, bonus offer kissing his ass. This is even more ridiculousness unlimited overtime plus all the extra cash just to be a political clown getting him, his coffee, doing valet work, maybe even doing his hair shiny his shoes.
Devries, Biggest OT thief that ever stepped into the building at Homan Square. Now his two so called drivers picked up where he left off.
Everyone's pension is over inflated. You literally get all your money back you paid in after a few years of staying alive after you retire. Unfortunately everyone wants there cake and to eat it too. Plus you get a 3% cola every year. Lets call a spade a spade. The pension system is bankrupt yet the younger officers are paying into a system that they will never collect on.
So Talley is making $212,000 on top of pushing drugs and getting fraudulent PPP Government Loans. After 30 years of lacking and ruining the BIA, she’s sticking around so that the city can represent her for free and pay off her many lawsuits with our tax dollars. You go Yo-Yo!
On a serious note, can someone please explain to me what does Angel Novalez do? I understand that he was grazed by a bullet at some point, but what does he do on a daily basis? Not his role, what does he do? He’s in charge of constitutional reform, but he doesn’t have a Law background. What is he doing each day other than doing whatever YT tells him to do?
Talley makes enough to pay a portion of her retaliation beefs.
SCC, I like your suggestion about leaving a person's pension at the last rank that they passed an exam for, but it would never work. As the lie-tenet exam proved the connected would / do get the answers to the promotional exams and therefore would "pass" the exams. It has been going on like this forever.
On a side note, is it not amazing that the people who do the least get the most!
Limon currently an assistant commissioner in the aviation dept police at 130g ish a year on top of that insane pension. Not to mention his wife salary and police pension from some other govt agency. Never enough should be the motto.
CPMF might be a great organization but I refuse to give them a penny as long as they are paying Cline $150,000 a year. To top it off he spends most of the winter in Fort Myers flying back every so often for CPMF events. Not only that there’s another former exempt making big money too. Organized crime families have nothing on this scam. As someone else wrote, if Cline were honorable he’d be doing this for nothing
that's why the command positions are shuffled every three to four years so all the hacks get that pension. i suggest that if you want to collect a gold braid pension you have to hold that position for ten years before being allowed to retire and collect
This is why the pension is going broke, and the taxpayer is paying for it!
Limon has been retired for 16 years. million in pension payments along with positions as a suburban police chief and other jobs not bad.
6/17/2024 12:43:00 AM
Now he is working as director of aviation police at Midway Airport making another 125,000. Talk about connected and stealing!
It's called COLA. And we all deserve it...exempt or patrolmens pension.
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Anonymous said...
Everyone's pension is over inflated. You literally get all your money back you paid in after a few years of staying alive after you retire. Unfortunately everyone wants there cake and to eat it too. Plus you get a 3% cola every year. Lets call a spade a spade. The pension system is bankrupt yet the younger officers are paying into a system that they will never collect on.
6/17/2024 07:11:00 AM
If I knew for sure that there would not be a pension, I would not come to work for another single blessed day.
Phil Cline, also has quite a significant salary drawn from the charity he runs. Allegedly over 125 K per anum.
I would never contribute a dime to his personal slush fund...
Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
This is absolutely OUTRAGEOUS! Talk about robbing the bank! Friends promoting friends is all that is. There’s a lot more missing from that list. Eddie Johnson and crew. Lt should be the highest pension. That’s a very good pension. These big bosses spent the majority of their careers not having to pay for a vehicle and gas. They had free company cars. All while making $200,000 plus a year.
There's a reason why Phil Cline is a fat as he is...that man is eating good!!
Anonymous said...
Phill Cline 199k pension plus 150k police memorial foundation salary scam. Haha blueshirts keep donating money.
7k a year in college fund for officers’ kids but 2mil a year for salaries of the connected. The scam keeps going.
6/17/2024 06:37:00 AM
Exactly!! Phat Phil getting fatter
Highest paid pension should be Captain.
Anonymous said...
Doesn't the Chicago Police Memorial Fund CEO get around _175,000 for that position as well as his pension from CPD as a former Superintendent ? You would think the service to the Memorial Fund would be almost of a volunteer status but that's not the way Chicago operates.
6/17/2024 05:23:00 AM
This needs a hard look. Why does it seem it’s only fellow retired exempt friends that get hired on the CPMF? I can only imagine what the payroll looks like. Do they get cars and credit cards too?
The pension should be capped at civil service rank of lieutenant. The “gold braid pension” is corruption plain & simple! A bunch of worthless politically connected hacks benefiting tremendously, especially those assholes that have enjoyed multiple bites from the merit apple! Given not earned!
Phil Cline makes about 150K a year from his slush fund charity as well. He also wrote a letter to the Judge on behalf of Alderman Ed Burke...
You can't make this shit up...
Retired here...
The system works. The older I get the more they pay me.
The problem is that some clout driven people game the system without any checks and balances.
Fuck U Pay Me..!
Phill Cline 199k pension plus 150k police memorial foundation salary scam. Haha blueshirts keep donating money.
7k a year in college fund for officers’ kids but 2mil a year for salaries of the connected. The scam keeps going.
Stopping my bi-weekly $50 support today. Enough is enough!
Gold Braid CPD Pensions need to be reduced to Civil Service Rank Pension. Everybody knows the kickback to the Democrat Politicians/Democrat Party Scam. Get 30k a year more Gold Braid, kick back 10% of that, still ahead 20k a year. Nice annual bonus for being a political whore.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Cline and Molloy are two of the greediest cs's going.
A bloated pension is not enough.
They use the CPMF to grab even nore money.
Phuque Phat Phil and BIFF Molloy.
6/17/2024 04:14:00 AM
Whores gotta Whore.
Everyone's pension is over inflated. You literally get all your money back you paid in after a few years of staying alive after you retire. Unfortunately everyone wants there cake and to eat it too. Plus you get a 3% cola every year. Lets call a spade a spade. The pension system is bankrupt yet the younger officers are paying into a system that they will never collect on.
6/17/2024 07:11:00 AM
Exactly. We're all sucking on the public teet
talley making $212,000 per year yet still finds the need to rent her car out to the neighborhood drug dealer? wow!!!!
Underfunding is the problem, not the higher pensions. The bosess pensions are a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of POs pulling from it. Even if you eliminated the higher pensions, there would still be an issue. Focus on the real problem.
must be nice......
they worked very hard for that money, just ask them
somebody must have told them bidenomics was just around the corner, so now they are living normally while the rest of us suffer
If they pay into the fund at their exempt pay rate they're entitled to it. Don't forget, they've also paid into the fund their entire career up to becoming exempt. Let's face it, only the highest of egomaniacs would take an exempt spot without bumping their pension. Exempts spots suck now and wouldn't be worth it without the bump. You work 14-16hr days, no ot, no duty avail, no quarterly, only get furlough a week at a time (upon approval) most of your subordinates make more money than you working less hours. Sorry, you can keep an exempt job nowadays.
I agree with what most are saying. Get rid of the gold braid pension. It’s a drain. Most of those same people go on to suburban chief or private sector executive jobs for years afterwards. Even the civil servant rank captains, lieutenants pension (many merit) have gone on to retire and come back as a civilian head in CPD. I can think of a captain. I know one guy who retired as a captain (stole big money in OT the years before). He went right on to a university job, easily These people are easily taking home 400k to 500k in salaries & pensions.
Why bring in liabilities in activity when you can curl for girls at the academy as an instructor and also be promoted 10 fold without passing any scammer based exams.
Don’t worry the pension will be fine! Remember those in power will come for our $$ before they come for the handouts!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Everyone's pension is over inflated. You literally get all your money back you paid in after a few years of staying alive after you retire. Unfortunately everyone wants there cake and to eat it too. Plus you get a 3% cola every year. Lets call a spade a spade. The pension system is bankrupt yet the younger officers are paying into a system that they will never collect on.
6/17/2024 07:11:00 AM
Maybe you should get a new job and pay into SS if you don't like our pension system. It is not the P.O fault that they collect a pension but maybe blame the mayor or aldercreatures for not fixing the system that is paying out to these over price merit hacks who would still be blue shirts if they were not connected.
Taxpayer here, not a cop. Long time fan of SCC. Even bigger fan of every police officer who works the streets keeping us safe. If it were up to me, we would increase your pay for beat cops. Thank you for your service.
That said, taxpayers are stretched and so money must be used wisely. I think any pension over the median family income is excessive. That's about $72k in Chicago or $6k per month. That's not going to pay for the second home or boat but it's not bad for retirement. It's about 3.5 times the median social sec benefit.
Don't even get me started on teacher pay for CPS, they fail to deliver on their only task of educating the kids, yet they constantly demand more. Again, if it were up to me, it would be vouchers to everyone and find your own school, schools would have to prove they are doing the job.
Again, thank you to every police officer.
did assman from 009 retire yet?
Any 50 year old Copper or Boss chasing a 24 year old kid at the Academy for sex is SCUM of the earth.
PIECES OF SHIT.
Phill Cline 199k pension plus 150k police memorial foundation salary scam.
Haha blueshirts keep donating money.
7k a year in college fund for officers’ kids but 2mil a year for salaries of the connected. The scam keeps going.
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By the way.
Just who scammed a PPP Loan for $203,550.11 ?
Phat Phil himself to make sure he had MORE steak dinners:
https://data.sj-r.com/paycheck-protection-program-loans/?state=Illinois&searchtext=chicago+police+memorial
I've asked about this before and no one seems to care. How can we get the pension board to make this change? It's only fair with the shape the pension is in. The pension should be no higher than Lt. just like the fire dept. This would also stop those bosses that are such kissasses that they will throw their own mother under the bus to get a promotion. If there was no extra money to be had I'm sure some wouldn't want the higher position. Look at who Johnson promoted? Some complete morons that were his friends just to get the bump in pension pay. That basically is the legal way of theft. We need to act now before the pension runs out and those of us who are at the bottom will still have a pension. Somebody needs to champion this cause before its too late.
Phat Phil himself to make sure he had MORE steak dinners:
https://data.sj-r.com/paycheck-protection-program-loans/?state=Illinois&searchtext=chicago+police+memorial
6/17/2024 03:12:00 PM
Phat Phil is a despicable prick. Him dying in prison is a pleasing daydream.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I've asked about this before and no one seems to care. How can we get the pension board to make this change? It's only fair with the shape the pension is in. The pension should be no higher than Lt. just like the fire dept. This would also stop those bosses that are such kissasses that they will throw their own mother under the bus to get a promotion. If there was no extra money to be had I'm sure some wouldn't want the higher position. Look at who Johnson promoted? Some complete morons that were his friends just to get the bump in pension pay. That basically is the legal way of theft. We need to act now before the pension runs out and those of us who are at the bottom will still have a pension. Somebody needs to champion this cause before its too late.
6/17/2024 03:39:00 PM
You are 100% correct fire pension board stood up for the members while the police pension board the "good old boys club" does not! They are literally stealing from the hard working street coppers another reason that gold badge is not to be respected just laugh at them!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
talley making $212,000 per year yet still finds the need to rent her car out to the neighborhood drug dealer? wow!!!!
Drug money is not taxable..
If they pay into the fund at their exempt pay rate they're entitled to it. Don't forget, they've also paid into the fund their entire career up to becoming exempt. Let's face it, only the highest of egomaniacs would take an exempt spot without bumping their pension. Exempts spots suck now and wouldn't be worth it without the bump. You work 14-16hr days, no ot, no duty avail, no quarterly, only get furlough a week at a time (upon approval) most of your subordinates make more money than you working less hours. Sorry, you can keep an exempt job nowadays.
6/17/2024 12:25:00 PM
Signed, Useless Suckhole Exempt MFer.
It's all for the clouted.............
Highest paid pension should be Captain.
6/17/2024 10:29:00 AM
Fuck that. No higher than lie-utenant. And the pension is computed on your last rank achieved via promotional exam, no merit scammers.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I've asked about this before and no one seems to care. How can we get the pension board to make this change? .....
This has been asked so many times. Here is the answer. You need to get the state legislature to vote to change the pension code to reflect a change such as this. The pension is completely regulated by state law. The board has no power to make changes. Do you really think that with all the clout involved in exempt promotions that this would ever have a chance? Then add the lawsuits after the change if this were ever to be enacted.
One ore thing. Keep in mind that the COLA for our pension is 3% simple, not compounded. The first COLA that you receive after you retire is the same amount year after year. Doesn't matter too much to the retired exempts, but will eventually make the average po pension worth a lot less over time.
The gold-braid is legally sanctioned theft. Not one of those thieves is worth a pension computed on any sworn position higher than the last rank achieved in rank order from a promotional exam.
But even if Talley and Skahill were making millions, it would not change the obvious.
They are both a beast with a face that can scare little kids and cause spontaneous miscarriages.
It hurts to look at either of them. And, it is scary.
Chicago pensions have a funding ratio of only 32%, one of the worst among the nation's major cities, according to data shared at the press conference. Every household in Chicago would need to pay $45,000 to cover the city's pension liability. In 2022, the estimated total for local taxes was $1,767,451,000, and the estimated total for intergovernmental revenue was $536,243,000. There isn't enough money. The game is over.
The pension is bankrupt in 5 years. After that everyone gets 30 cents on the dollar. Prepare yourself.
Pensions should be at civil service rank. How many chiefs and deputy chiefs were there 30 years ago? Anyone? The department is a bit top heavy!! There's a commander for everything now.
Actually we have a lot less brass now than we used to have. There used to be as many as 45
Deputy chiefs….now we have only 18. There used to be a lot more commanders, almost 65 at one point now we have 44
But yes, pensions should be capped at no higher than a Lt. Only pay into the pension at the Lt step salary that the person is at if they are a Capt or higher.
If the pension fund were to conduct a referendum vote for such things, it would surely pass, as the gold braid pension only affects a small amount of people.
Years ago Cheryl Pontacore posted on FB that it was bullshit that her Deputy Husband and her had to pay two percent for their medical insurance. It’s just called getting even: How many medical years did you accumulate in 30 years? You couldn’t detect a bank robber with a dye pack all over his clothes
On a serious note, can someone please explain to me what does Angel Novalez do? I understand that he was grazed by a bullet at some point, but what does he do on a daily basis? Not his role, what does he do? He’s in charge of constitutional reform, but he doesn’t have a Law background. What is he doing each day other than doing whatever YT tells him to do?
The real question is why does he have his hands in everything? Training, orders, Caps, Eap, tread, everything now has his consent decree BS in it. Worked in the bureau, he is a vindictive micromanaging exempt dictator.
Haha blueshirts keep donating money.
7k a year in college fund for officers’ kids but 2mil a year for salaries of the connected. The scam keeps going.
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Haven’t donated in years. Not since I saw the writing on the wall with Matt and another one of his minions who was basically doing Police Memorial work on the clock after she took the detective promotion. Oh and “you mean I have to do OT on a stabbing on Valentines? I have dinner plans with my boyfriend.” I’ll donate directly when those things come up but not to keep feeding those greedy pigs.
Anonymous said...
Phill Cline 199k pension plus 150k police memorial foundation salary scam. Haha blueshirts keep donating money.
7k a year in college fund for officers’ kids but 2mil a year for salaries of the connected. The scam keeps going.
Stopping my bi-weekly $50 support today. Enough is enough!
6/17/2024 11:21:00 AM
I stopped many years ago when I saw the connected exempts with huge pensions getting hired at big salaries by fellow buddy Phil Cline. It’s no different than how they all took care of each other on the CPD. In my opinion the salaries are very very generous. That money could be better spent.
Pensions should be capped at 100k plus cola. That’s plenty to live on and afford whatever you want.
You all better Google cpmf tax records. Phil makes $158,000 salary plus $47,000 bonus for year 2022. Each year his pay goes up. Not to mention a free SUV, plus meals and hotels and misc expenses.
More importantly he is in Florida all winter. So cpmf is a part time job. Yet his tax records claim he works 40 hours a week????
How about junior clines best friend Matt's wife is office manager. Another part time job at $114,000 plus $10,000 bonus.
The man should have gone to federal prison in the 80s. He is clever enough to beat them at the game. And he's still getting away with it.
Another thing. Why does Cline ask every one else to donate their time and volunteer for cpmf events? Because Phil is for Phil. Always has been.
Don't be charmed by his humor.
Bruno is useless.
Enough is enough Cap it at 120k no cola beyond no ups no extras it literally should be 100k 10 year cola works out about the same quit waiting for the Democrats to save your pension. Start pressing Trump to save the pensions to divert this Ukraine and foreign aid to the pensions.
CFD does not have a brass bill. Highest civil service rank is battalion chief. If you get an exempt rank position you retire at your civil service rank.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
On a serious note, can someone please explain to me what does Angel Novalez do? I understand that he was grazed by a bullet at some point, but what does he do on a daily basis? Not his role, what does he do? He’s in charge of constitutional reform, but he doesn’t have a Law background. What is he doing each day other than doing whatever YT tells him to do?
Like him or not, he wasn’t grazed, he took one in the lung and has to get it drained at least once a year, sometimes more.
That being said, he’s the only merit exempt that deserved anything. The rest are suckass ballwashers ....
I just want to know how much "Fat Phil" is taking home from the Police Memorial money train on top of his pension. Last I heard he was making over $200,000 with a paid for car and expense account for about 2 months work a year. Remember folks, "it's all for the children and widows". What a disgusting man.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Those salaries and pensions are highway robbery. The current exempts have failed miserably at implementing and executing strategies to make the city safe. Uncontrolled crime. Murders, shootings, robberies, you name it. Horrible clearance rate. If “executive” compensation was tied to performance these cats would be pulling less than a patrolman.
A list of wasted salaries, and we have to flirt with the idea of bringing former Exempts back to lead the troops through the DNC. Not one of the current Exempts have what it takes to stand in the forefront. Yet everyone is waiting for another bump.
On a serious note, can someone please explain to me what does Angel Novalez do? Nothing.
“CPD has fully met just 6% of the court order’s requirements, according to the most recent report by the team monitoring the city’s compliance with the consent decree released in November.
Since the consent decree took effect on March 1, 2019, the monitoring team has billed Chicago taxpayers for more than $15 million through Aug. 31, according to bills analyzed by WTTW News. That team has unrestricted access to CPD officials, facilities and data as the team keeps tabs on efforts to remake the department.
Originally expected to be completed within five years, the consent decree will remain in effect for at least another three years, until 2027. That means Chicago taxpayers will have no choice but to pay millions more to cover the cost of the work performed by the independent monitoring team led by attorney Maggie Hickey to determine whether the city is making good on its promises of reform.”
Hey how about everyone gets a blue shirt pension it just may save the fund (21% funded). If promoted you get that pay until you retire. If people can’t live on a blue shirt pension plus 457 plan after 29 yrs you did something wrong!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Phill Cline 199k pension plus 150k police memorial foundation salary scam. Haha blueshirts keep donating money.
7k a year in college fund for officers’ kids but 2mil a year for salaries of the connected. The scam keeps going.
Stopping my bi-weekly $50 support today. Enough is enough!
6/17/2024 11:21:00 AM
I stopped many years ago when I saw the connected exempts with huge pensions getting hired at big salaries by fellow buddy Phil Cline. It’s no different than how they all took care of each other on the CPD. In my opinion the salaries are very very generous. That money could be better spent.
6/17/2024 09:55:00 PM
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I'll one up ya. I refuse to take a free (or discounted) vest. Really, we are going to beg private industry to buy us a vest? Not me. I'll buy my own fucking vest.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The pension is bankrupt in 5 years. After that everyone gets 30 cents on the dollar. Prepare yourself.
6/17/2024 06:53:00 PM
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Only if Illinois goes belly up.
The pension is taking in a surplus of about $50M per year.
In $970M
Out $912M
Surplus $58M (for 2022)
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Chicago pensions have a funding ratio of only 32%, one of the worst among the nation's major cities, according to data shared at the press conference. Every household in Chicago would need to pay $45,000 to cover the city's pension liability. In 2022, the estimated total for local taxes was $1,767,451,000, and the estimated total for intergovernmental revenue was $536,243,000. There isn't enough money. The game is over.
6/17/2024 06:00:00 PM
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Ya, but it's not due tomorrow. If the bank called in my outstanding mortgage tomorrow I'd be done too. But it's not happening, and I'll pay my mortgage off in time. Get a grip.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
I've asked about this before and no one seems to care. How can we get the pension board to make this change? It's only fair with the shape the pension is in. The pension should be no higher than Lt. just like the fire dept. This would also stop those bosses that are such kissasses that they will throw their own mother under the bus to get a promotion. If there was no extra money to be had I'm sure some wouldn't want the higher position. Look at who Johnson promoted? Some complete morons that were his friends just to get the bump in pension pay. That basically is the legal way of theft. We need to act now before the pension runs out and those of us who are at the bottom will still have a pension. Somebody needs to champion this cause before its too late.
6/17/2024 03:39:00 PM
You are 100% correct fire pension board stood up for the members while the police pension board the "good old boys club" does not! They are literally stealing from the hard working street coppers another reason that gold badge is not to be respected just laugh at them!
6/17/2024 04:29:00 PM
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Pensions are capped in Tier 2
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Chicago pensions have a funding ratio of only 32%, one of the worst among the nation's major cities, according to data shared at the press conference. Every household in Chicago would need to pay $45,000 to cover the city's pension liability. In 2022, the estimated total for local taxes was $1,767,451,000, and the estimated total for intergovernmental revenue was $536,243,000. There isn't enough money. The game is over.
6/17/2024 06:00:00 PM
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Ya, but it's not due tomorrow. If the bank called in my outstanding mortgage tomorrow I'd be done too. But it's not happening, and I'll pay my mortgage off in time. Get a grip.
6/18/2024 07:37:00 AM
Thanks for your input COMMANDER
Don't hate the players, hate the game.
Hahahahahahaha
PC
After seeing that list, do we still want to "let the city burn"? Thus potentially allowing the tax base to flee the city and the pension to be cancelled?
Who wants 25 cents for every dollar they earned?
These are serious problems for the future of the City, and therefore for the future of our pensions.
The salary of Phil Cline is not paid by donations of officers to the memorial fund. It is payed by a corporate donation specifically for whoever is in charge. The vehicles are probably donated by the Marino family.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The salary of Phil Cline is not paid by donations of officers to the memorial fund. It is payed by a corporate donation specifically for whoever is in charge. The vehicles are probably donated by the Marino family.
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It's not about where the money is coming from. Stfu with that lame excuse.
It's about whom that donation is going to...Phil's greed. Cline not only collects the largest pension in Chicago, he also sold back 10,000 stolen hours in overtime at that same supt salary. (Known fact) He certainly doesn't need the money.
Meaning Cline should be donating his time and services to his self created foundation, because that would be the honorable and respectful thing to do. Why not - everyone else donates their time and services to cpmf???
Then that $200,000 given by the corporate donation can go straight to police families in need.
The Illinois Supreme Court has ruled that your pension cannot be reduced. The police are the first in line if the city has serious financial problems. All city owned assets have to be sold to make payments if necessary.
Unions should lobby Springfield to end gold braid pension benefits ASAP.
It’s breaking the pension fund.
Pension at last rank promoted to in rank order is the only fair way.
Did Phat Phil really move to Utah? I thought I saw him last week on roller skates serving food at Superdawg…
Anonymous Anonymous said...
On a serious note, can someone please explain to me what does Angel Novalez do? I understand that he was grazed by a bullet at some point, but what does he do on a daily basis? Not his role, what does he do? He’s in charge of constitutional reform, but he doesn’t have a Law background. What is he doing each day other than doing whatever YT tells him to do?
The real question is why does he have his hands in everything? Training, orders, Caps, Eap, tread, everything now has his consent decree BS in it. Worked in the bureau, he is a vindictive micromanaging exempt dictator.
Bosses micromanage and f-ck with others when they don’t have the slightest idea of what’s really required of them. Screwing with others deflect the attention off of the fact that they are useless. It also helps them take the negative attention off of them and put it on others.
So since people have money , they should work for free. Would you?
Those salaries and pensions are highway robbery. The current exempts have failed miserably at implementing and executing strategies to make the city safe. Uncontrolled crime. Murders, shootings, robberies, you name it. Horrible clearance rate. If “executive” compensation was tied to performance these cats would be pulling less than a patrolman.
A list of wasted salaries, and we have to flirt with the idea of bringing former Exempts back to lead the troops through the DNC. Not one of the current Exempts have what it takes to stand in the forefront. Yet everyone is waiting for another bump.
6/18/2024 05:41:00 AM
What are the strategies our department, any modern day department, has failed to implement and execute to make their urban residents safe?
News flash! There are none. There are no new strategies to implement.
As long as the "arrest them over there, but do not even think about putting a hand on me or my kid when we are in the wrong. And, when you arrest them over there, I will be a witness against you" mindset exists, added to a civilian mayor calling the shots and the police being investigated by an out of control civilian COPA, the uncontrolled crime, murders, shootings, robberies, and a horrible clearance rate are the new normal.
Further, you are correct about the bloated exempt salaries and pensions. They are unnecessary. Our organization is excessively top heavy, actually so very excessively top heavy it is ridiculous. Most exempts contribute very little for their bloated paychecks. Look at these mfers. They are no think tank or a conglomeration of intelligent, forward thinkers. They are managers, not creators or implementers. And most are not even good at managing. Even if one had a good idea, rare as that would be, the present department structure and the structure of city government would strangle it.
A captain in-charge, really in-charge, of each district reporting to a command structure of no more than 10, including the superintendent, with no need of a first deputy, should be the future. The old boy exempt network, along with the newer old girl exempt network, is unaffordable, always has been, and needs to go the way of the buggy whip.
nonymous said...
So since people have money , they should work for free. Would you?
6/19/2024 06:00:00 AM
It's a non profit organization. Yes pc should donate his time.
Yes many retired pos, who don't have money, donate their time to cpmf and many other non profit organizations. Including me.
It's a non profit organization. Yes pc should donate his time.
Yes many retired pos, who don't have money, donate their time to cpmf and many other non profit organizations. Including me.
He gets the amount of money he does because of his name and connections. If it were you, there would be zero.
He gets the amount of money he does because of his name and connections. If it were you, there would be zero.
6/21/2024 12:22:00 AM
Fuck you and Phat Phil.
He gets the amount of money he does because of his name and connections. If it were you, there would be zero.
6/21/2024 12:22:00 AM
Hey BIFF, it is clear you owe your bloated pension to Phat Phil, but come on, his name is for shit and his connections to whom or what? His Florida condo association? Phat Phil is the ultimate scammer because he continues to unfold it in front or our eyes without consequence.
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