COPA Overreach, Snelling Failure
If you had any doubts about how bad, corrupt and out-of-control COPA is, check this out:
- The agency charged with investigating wrongdoing by Chicago police
officers recommended that an officer be fired for, mostly, posting a
picture to Facebook of former Mayor Lori Lightfoot in “blackface,” when
the image actually showed her in clown make-up, according to reports released Friday.
After nearly five years of investigation, the agency sent its recommendation for termination to Chicago Police Supt. Larry Snelling in April. He rejected COPA’s recommendation, calling its recommendation of termination “egregious” and noting that the image did not show Lightfoot, who is Black, in blackface. It showed her in clown makeup.
COPA accepted Snelling’s counter-recommendation of a 10-day suspension.
Here's the picture that was posted:
Hilarious. This was after Groot had called the head of the FOP a "clown" on an open microphone. Groot faced zero suspension time by the way. Also note - the Officer who posted this picture in a private social media group had nothing listed on his account that identified him as a CPD Officer. COPA got an anonymous tip and did some digging.
We had warned years ago to be careful using social media, especially after the Department came out with "guidelines" and rules that purportedly told you what you could and couldn't do on social media. It was after the blog rocketed to prominence, so we might have been to blame for part of it.
In any event, COPA recommended firing the Officer for putting Groot in "blackface" and another picture of Rahm in a ballerina leotard with a rainbow dildo on his head declaring himself to be a unicorn. Again, hilarious....and completely protected by the First Amendment. They can tell you what you can/cannot wear and say on duty, but off duty, the Department and COPA can go fuck themselves.
And 'lo and behold, Larritorious fails completely at understanding the Law:
Kersten and Haynam concluded that COPA had “grave concerns” about [the officer] and recommended his “separation from CPD,” citing the need for police officers to build trust with the community and not act with bias toward “historically marginalized persons.”
Snelling slammed the COPA investigation as “not thorough,” noting that, despite taking years to investigate a seemingly simple matter, its investigators never even spoke to the person who filed the initial complaint.
“We have no statement from the complainant as to why she was offended by the photo of former Mayor Lightfoot or if she knew or even assumed that the person posting the photo was a Chicago Police Officer,” Snelling wrote.
And, Snelling noted, COPA never received a complaint about the Emmanuel image but tacked it onto the investigation after “scouring through the old posts made by [the officer].”
Snelling compared COPA’s termination recommendation with suspensions received by officers accused of seemingly more egregious social media posts that contained direct, disparaging comments, which [the officer] ’s posts did not.
The top cop countered with a recommended 10-day suspension for [the officer] which COPA eventually accepted.
Larritorious had it completely correct, until that last recommendation. There, he failed to be an actual leader and proved (again) to be a political hack, kind of like when he was helping to strip Officers for daring to exercise bodily autonomy over an untested, useless, poison jab.
Fuck COPA and fuck Larry for being a pussy. Thin skinned politicians deserve every bit of crap flung their way.
(by the way, we'll post the Rahm dildo unicorn picture if anyone has it, and will consider anything with Larritorious or Kersten that isn't pornographic in nature)
Labels: department issues
111 Comments:
That piece of shit stripped many officers and he has no remorse. Fuck him that small bicep bitch. Anyone who thinks he's a cops cop is also a fucking idiot. I don't want to hear shit when you need me to buy a ticket for your "fundraiser" or your "no pay status" moment. You deserve it.
Even though I think the guys who write SCC are extermely intelligent and well educated, And I suspect maybe even have been through law school, I have to take exception with something youve written here
Part of our oath of office contains the words, "MY PROVATE LIFE WILL BE UNSULLIED"
As soon as a recruit utters those words, his or her off duty activities become the department's business.
I believe courts have held that "bringing discredit upon the department extends to off duty conduct
Keep up the good wrk
I forgot to add that Lori had photos of herself in Halloween costumes, one in particluar as a bottle of bleach. And announced in public , Fuck Trump and that she has the biggest dick in Chocago. Hardly virginal innocence
An open message to COPS WHY WOULD YOU BE ON FACEBOOK?
That's absolutely ridiculous and beyond the Pale to get 10 days of pay taken from you for you for posting Constitutionally protected speech, in light of what Lightfoot said about the Union person on a hot microphone.
Pathetic. Beyond words.
When your a product of the Chicago Public School System. Raised in a home and neighborhood that is filled with convoluted logic. Then yes being borderline mentally retarded, that would appear to you as being "Black Face". When the average prudent and reasonable person sees this they see it for what it actually is Clown Make up.
Exonerated should be the outcome. Only kings, dictators and tyrants exact such harsh penalties in cases like this.
Trying to fire officers for nonsense will really get everyone to work hard! Just answer your calls.
That’s the best I ever seen Lori
“……. citing the need for police officers to build trust with the community and not act with bias toward “historically marginalized persons.”
Give me a break!!! Lori was a historically marginalized person???
Did you have the opportunity or the money to go to the Univ. of Michigan, the Univ. of Chicago Law School, get a job with Mayer Brown Law Office, become a United States Attorney, fall into a bunch of other Democrat political jobs and then become Mayor of the City of Chicago. These people who are ranting about how she was marginalized and telling you it’s raining on you are really peeing in your face. Lori is a big girl and has taken care of herself and will continue to do so.
Retired in Texas……
Ahhhh….SCC….Did you not post a picture of conehead….with a cone head?
Copa will spank you with termination…
And if you retired, copa will force you back and then terminate you……
Stay safe out there y’all !!!
Please make one of Lar doing push-ups......
Fuck COPA.
However, stop posting on social media stuff that can land you in trouble. My sergeant in the detective division posts controversial stuff on Facebook all the time. He has a pseudo name but he also posts pictures of his kids and family but not himself.
Some of his posts show bias against gays, transgender and illegal immigrants.
This is just plain stupidity and yes, having a pattern of posts that show bias against groups can land you in the unemployment line.
How can a serious organization honestly call that blackface? It just a simple expression of opinion towards former Mayor Lightfoot. For this to be considered a FIREABLE offense is plain stupidity. COPA needs to be disbanded immediately. What rational person thinks that a dumb comment such as that deserves for a person to lose their job. I guess if you're the police you are not allowed to post an opinion.
As a black man, I am tied of all these orgs trying to make an opinion for "us" when they do not represent reality.
Election day is tomorrow. We are going to elect President Trump and watch the liberals cry like they did in 2016. The reason why President Trump will win is because Latinos are going to overwhelmingly support him. We want law and order. We want mass deportations. We support our police. We support traditional family values.
When President Trump orders mass deportations, we will gladly assist.
5 years to investigate an expression of free Speech?
Is the Muppet show going after political cartoonists as well?
Does anybody know if there is actually anyone with a law degree working for COPA? From a real law school?
A complete waste of time and money serving no purpose.
What a clown car of idiots who are actually being paid by the city
Mayor Bugeyes never looked so good.
Why couldn't those teachers that dressed up as Black Panther terrorists be fired for posting those pictures??!
The picture of beetle juice is actually an improvement compared to what it looks like now.Wondering how much it charges to haunt a house
Lightfoot is indeed a clown afterall.
💯 it was another copper who filed the complaint anonymous, coward should have provided their name so COPA could have published it
That bitch is ugly , If anything groot should thank the officer for the improvement to her
Why disparage unicorns? They have feelings too.
Just so we’re straight on this! An officer in CPD has no expectation of 1st amendment rights? But the director of COPA has the right to speak and give opinions about ongoing investigations COPA is performing? Got to wonder why no one wants this job anymore?
Snelling is a cuck for Johnson and Kersten. Sell out.
She looks better in clown makeup than she does in real life. Now she has to work on not dressing up looking like Harpo Marx.
Lightfoot and Rham are public figures. As public figures, they cannot be slandered or libeled by law. What the person posted was protected free speech
Exactly.
5 years to investigate that? That in itself should be investigated. I hope he or she gets a lawyer after he or she tells sMelling and Copa to go fuck themselves
If this isn't a wake up call, like all the other shit this shitty dept has done to not do any proactive work, just answer your calls, you are 1 dumb mfer
Doesn't look any dumber than her dancing (or something) with a drum line in the street.
For the accused Officer: Google "Heroes, Terrorists, and the Police" from the Reader. The now retired Officer in that article (AC) had a number put on him after that article was published. Another allegation in the complaint was a cartoon on Facebook of Lori Lightfoot putting a target on a policeman's back. The BIA investigator conducted an investigation and the complaint was either unfounded or not sustained. The details of both of these cases are quite similar and precedence is set. FOIA the investigation and use it in your grievance.
When I took the kids to the street fair they got face painted white with identified clown depictions. Looks like I committed the mortal sin of being racist allowing a privileged person to put a white colored basecoat on children's faces with red accents most identified with circus clowns. Their face painting brought smiles to their innocent faces. Established standards in the accountability eyes of copa uncovered the crime of children being tricked into blackfaced institutional racism. Those Blackface experts at the self identified civilian office of police accountability deemed this non- black face coloring to be blackface in a white basecoat with perceived blatant established racism in their unprofessional waste of time lengthy investigation.
Copa is a joke and a colossal waste of tax dollars. Public monies could have been better utilized fighting the record epidemic crimes like murder and carjackings. Time to re-imagine police accountability. Defund copa. Your fired. Send them packing.
Isn't the statute of limitations on a misdemeanor 18 months and 3 years on a felony? How does this stay on life support for 5 years???
Another example of this type of buffoonery is ISP Internal Investigations and their "Disciplinary Review Board." Freakin joke.
Commies gotta Commie.
I thought Illinois had a police officer bill of rights? How how about the FOP issueing a statement on this.
Sox suck, cubs suck, bears suck, bulls suck, Chicago sucks. About the only thing in the city that doesn't is groot.
Disrespect for Chicago leadership is an indication you won't go stormtrooper in a residents home to capture a squirrel. Can't be tolerated.
Beetlejuice looks good as a clown. She could be that clown at the UniverSoul Circus at Washington Park joining famous acts such as 002nd District Police Commander Crystal King Smith riding a camel being that change recruitment drive.
Look up the images for the UniverSoul Circus in a search engine. Notice the clowns with their faces painted white wearing rainbow colored hats, clown wigs and feather boas. This is 100% beetlejuice Lightfoot!
Would copa find the UniverSoul circus racist for wearing suggestive rainbow wigs hats and feather boas in white colored whiteface suggesting racist blackface in a predominantly African-American circus performance? If the circus performers were police , they would be fired immediately by civilian accountability freaks for public depictions of human rights ordinance violations. Copa would use gestapo methods to publically humiliate, shame, and bully those who challenge or mock progressive marxist ideology . After receiving this anonymous tip, Copa is commanded to make that public statement condemning the circus that entertains at risk underserved children citing accountability authority's self-identified human rights violations.
Anything is better than her usual bug eyed freak look.
I wonder if for Halloween she dressed up as a normal looking person? That would probably scare her family too much.
Put a tent over this circus.
Lori is actually quite a bit cuter in this makeup than her usual look
I hope the LEO involved files a lawsuit in federal court for the violation of his First Amendment right of free speech.
OT. Sounds line DC Bulnes from 124 took a page out of copa's playbook too...by dumping yet another member on an anonymous complaint. This one is finally come to bite her once all of her racist practices get out, especially against whites. The EEOC is going be the least of your worries torta. Hope you and your staff have a good lawyer...
Non-violent political speech is protected. Period.
I'm curious. If you mock a politician and a government agency comes after you because of it, do you have a home run 1st amendment lawsuit?
That is White face and that’s racist. She should have been held accountable for that picture
CPD is a corrupt organization due to the
command staff
you gotta admit Lori is a good lookin man!
The only thing more disparaging to Lightfoot than that picture would be to post a picture of her without the clown makeup.
I never realized that clowns were a protected group. Who knew that they and guys who wear dildoes on their heads have been marginalized and disrespected. Shame on all of us and a profound apology to the clown and dildo head communities.
Pot and kettle. Corruption telling corruption to stop being corrupt. Its one thing to criticize COPA, but the BIA runs the same types of investigations, and at least 2,000 members can attest to that. The only difference is that the BIA doesn’t just make recommendations, they simple ruin careers.
So unless you define that in very specific terms that could apply to getting a divorce, filing bankruptcy, having a kid out of wedlock, being overweight on the job, etc. You get this point. Not being able to have an opinion about a politician and express it in a meme when the rest of the population can is a stretch at best and last I checked stripping you of your First Amendment rights off duty wasn’t what anyone signed up for on this job.
While I agree with the sentiment of self preservation, it’s their right. The point is not rolling over for an agency whose sole existence is to strip you of your rights and job the first chance they get just because you are the police. There are people in this anti police world that believe an officer has no right to the protection of their own life. When the day comes and someone tells you, “I don’t care if a guy was armed, you have no right to shoot him in defense of your own life. You signed up for the job.” If you actually think there aren’t people out there with that deep of a hatred your argument holds nothing helpful.
You have clearly never spoken to or watched the tac babies in any district. They’ll do anything to keep their hidden spots. They don’t even bring in arrest anymore, just blue cards. It’s not as if numbers are a secret and even with the entire team being put on every arrest made, which is a ridiculous tactic that should be stomped by approving lieutenants, they still are often lagging behind 3rd watches.
In this case you are wrong, the officer will win in arbitration. He did nothing wrong, he did it right by not having anything on his social media that identifies himself as a Chicago police officer or even as a current city employee. You still have 1st amendment rights when you don’t identify as such
Yep!!!
She is in She is in white face!
Lightfoot looks better with makeup. Just clownin'
You are a clown too. Your vote won't even count in Illinois.
I charge L.L. with cultural appropriation...
She gives us clowns a bad name...
Beetlejuice has a white foundation with marginal black accents must like the Lightfoot depicted blackface. Very similar. Is Hollywood guilty of systematic bias towards historically marginalized persons?
Sounds like communist china, soviet russia, east germany or north korean censorship and one party dictatorial rule punishment. The U.S. Constitution protects free speech even when its posted anonymously or with a pseudo handle. Is a altered photo of a public figure worthy of a five-year long investigation or is it just a humorous political expression of free speech. Copa made a mountain out of an anthill. Sounds like the officer was targeted by leftist extremists on the government payroll. In the meantime the crime flourishes and good people suffer.
as they used to say on the westside " that is one nasty -ss looking b-tch
Off duty behavior. My private life will be unsullied. Asshat, this is not criminal behavior and COPA went out of their way conducting their own version of constitutional violating policing to connect the dots to a police officer. Violate my rights and expect a long deposition and punitive damages.
Excellent observation for pointing out the similarty. Maybe she was a fan of Harpo.
Speaking of good ol' Lori, what ever happened to the in depth investigation into Dolton's money management? Besides a "preliminary" finding in August, there's been nothing. How long can this possibly take? Not like she has anything else to do. Maybe her investigation will find that SHE'S being overpaid for an inept examination...
The politicians are public figures who say outlandish things about each other and voters. If it’s too hot in the kitchen they can just leave. If they can say outlandish things we should be able to also. In England and Ireland they are locking people up for what they think. And it’s coming here too. We need these people to stay out of our private lives.
COPA got an anonymous tip and did some digging. What if their digging revealed this poster to be a private citizen or even a political journalist. Sounds like an intrusion into privacy and clear violation under color of law 1st Amendment protections. Does this "civilian" agency have subpoena powers in addition to access to those private sector databases that collect certain "public" information about you and provide intrusive intelligence on everyday law abiding citizens. Does COPA have access to law enforcement only permitted information/intelligence databases,, and if so, under whose authority. Inquiring minds want to know. What's next arrest powers and the lawful authority to conduct search warrants for those Civilian Office of Police Accountability II Duce Mussolini inspired fascists?
ok then,,,,, that copper did not sully his "provate" did he ??????
Because we’re not 60 years old and know how to use it. Just because you have a Facebook doesn’t mean every detail about you is out there.
Quit whining where are my blue cards so I can let you go home early
Sue copa for libel. By lying and saying you did black face in order to get you fired was beyond ridiculous. Sue them and expose their clown show of an "investigative" entity. Libtards, every one of them.
Just heard Mayor Conehead is stumping for votes for Kamala in North Carolina today. Why isn’t he here do his job. Why are we paying him. How much do the taxpayers have to pay for the police bodyguards for this trip? So does he know or care over just this weekend we had 2 homicides and 16 shot. Is he still searching for the root cause of these crimes?
Lighten up Sally. If grout was so but hurt by the comment she shouldn’t have called Murray a clown.
OT: Pension Trustee election results
For the Trustee representing the rank of Investigator, Patrolman, or rank equivalent members:
Detective Brock Merck: 933 votes
Officer Nora Walker: 438 votes
For the Trustee representing Annuitant members:
Thomas Lonergan: 2,964 votes
Rosemarie Giambalvo: 1,745 votes
I hope the officer in question sues. This is a blatant First Amendment violation.
Anonomous type my ass. Some no ballls over educated asshole ratted him out. Many bosses didnt care for him because he spoke his mind. He was targeted just as bad as I was. OUTSTANDING! I'm glad to call him FRIEND! Fuck you lefty no balls ass kissing white shirts.
Fuck that LEO pos. Why us he allowed to carry a gun if he is ptsd, psych, mental and been through rehab atleast twice in the past couple years???
Isn’t Lonergan the guy trying to make it a paid position, or am I thinking of someone else? If so, why’d they’d all vote for the guy, sorta like why’d everyone vote for J-Cat?
If you are on Social Media and use your real name you are not too fucking bright!
So bulnes dumped a member based on an unsubstantiated complaint?
Now that's interesting. Conehead pimping for Karmala in NC. You raise valid points. Where is the media to ask the questions especially regarding Department costs. Never mind. The Chicago media is the propaganda of the Democrats.
Over reach on almost everything
Fuck Snelling.
The only thing he can figure out how to do is send inspectors to our winter inspections to fuck with the troops. Ridiculous.
"...build trust with the community....." Really? defending a mayor who only gave interviews to black journalists and openly discriminated against journalists based on skin color?
Nobody outside of Chicago knows who this loser is. He thinks highly of himself and if democrats manage to steal this election, he’ll be gunning for a cabinet position.
Lay off the booze
5 blue cards and you get to go home early if you’re the first car. After that it’s 10 blue cards. No movers.
This lack of a voter turnout makes me sick.
This guy is known to childish and vindictive with malicious intent, so
Ok AB on some bs
COPA got an anonymous tip and did some digging. What if their digging revealed this poster to be a private citizen or even a political journalist. Sounds like an intrusion into privacy and clear violation under color of law 1st Amendment protections. Does this "civilian" agency have subpoena powers in addition to access to those private sector databases that collect certain "public" information about you and provide intrusive intelligence on everyday law abiding citizens. Does COPA have access to law enforcement only permitted information/intelligence databases,, and if so, under whose authority. Inquiring minds want to know. What's next arrest powers and the lawful authority to conduct search warrants for those Civilian Office of Police Accountability II Duce Mussolini inspired fascists?
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good questions but they do it all the time. Cops get in trouble all the time for posts on FB. How does COPA know, officially, what accounts belong to whom? Good question.
Oh shut up.. You sound like a liberal
You can keep your blue cards I will chill till check off with the usual ZERO
So go ahead and Spar me, BFD
I will give it 4 months before either Tom passes away or steps down (because he’s sick) and they have a special election to put Johnny in.
And the fix is in
Is it so hard to wear the prescribed uniform? I would like to see the inspectors looking at the tac clowns and sparring every time they wear their hats backwards and hooded sweaters.
Little known fact, but COPA has had search warrants approved for information related to administrative investigations.
There is rock solid proof and it stinks more than anyone knows.
They have suburban officers affiant the warrants.
Have tried to expose it, but no one really seems to care about the blatant civil rights violations.
IMO I think that it is totally wrong that you should be disciplined for posting something on FB like that. But I do know of a member from the CFD that lost his job for something posted on FB about Lighthead. they went to arbitration and lost. So even thought I feel that it is wrong to even get any days for this picture, if they take this to arbitration it might be an easy loser.
rumorville has it if kamala wins groot and her man looking husband have been in invited to p diddys freak off election party
Whoopi Goldberg urges Americans to hold buttholes 'clutched' in election lines, then let farts 'rip' in voting booth whoopi you are one westside nasty-ss b-tch
Where’s the Harold in Lingerie pic?
No joke, buddy told me over coffee, last year the patrol Col of ISP investigated some Trooper for a meme. Ended up nothing happened at the end but also, we don't know anything aside from rumor. Something about dude didn't make it or they didn't have the creator nailed down. Buddy laughed and said they simply went after the dummy that shared it. Think about all the ridiculous stuff we have or make for comedy at roll-call or unit briefings!? Comedy is a tension relief, if someone is offended by it, I apologize but this is law enforcement, grow a pair! (this assumes it's not crude)
TRUMP will be the 47th President. A good start in removing and demolishing the Socialists, Communists and other adversaries of this country. This includes the Cartels and the illegal alien army and other criminal elements. The Lion is back.
I’m not sure if the command staff is corrupt, incompetent or both.
2 or 3 more MAGA Supreme Court appointments, 200+ more federal court judges. Best part is no Jan 6 part 2.
Gotta appreciate the steps Andres took to create a world where shitting in his own pants gives him the right to tell everyone the world stinks.
Fuck copa and the supt. I would challenge the 10 days too. Anything other than exoneration is bullshit. Everything we do off duty is representative of the Dept? I don't think so
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