Sunday, June 01, 2025

Relax

A lot of people commenting about the Hoover situation the past few days. Quite a few let their Trump Derangement Syndrome get the better of them, claiming outrage on the part of thousands of crime victims they cared little for in years past or resentment on behalf of cops, few of whom had direct or indirect involvement with Hoover or the g.d's.

We let most of the comments go through unless it got personal or outright wrong. For a little perspective, here's the former Head of the Prisoner Review Board saying Hoover isn't getting out under the current committee:

  • “I think it’s all just drama” said attorney Jorge Montes, who was a member of the Illinois Prisoner Review Board for 16 years including six years as chairman.  “The president (Trump)  well knows that Mr. Hoover isn’t going’ anywhere. And that he’s not going to be released; he’s not going to be given freedom."

    Hoover has “to come back and fulfill his Illinois sentence – I think he (President Trump) is trying to impress his friends, Kanye West, and other celebrities who have been pushing for this pardon; but it’s a pyrrhic victory,” contends Montes. “At the end of the day, (Hoover) isn’t going anywhere. “

    Just a couple years ago when Hoover last came up for parole, the state board denied release by a vote of 10 to 1. That single parole board member on Hoover’s side is no longer even on the board. But a majority of the others are, and they voted against Hoover’s release less than three years ago. This time they will be the only people standing between Larry Hoover and freedom. 

We already opined that this was (and remains) a bad look for the president, but not a deal breaker for continued support. Let's be realistic:

  • this was concurrent federal sentencing (six life sentences) to go with 200 years of state time for homicide. While we support Hoover dying in prison alone, "overkill" is a legit argument in this case;
  • people with institutional or personal knowledge of Hoover and his crimes are minimal and getting more minimal by the day. Again, that doesn't excuse the release, but it factors into the political decision making process;
  • Trump isn't facing Illinois voters ever again and the system ensures a Republican won't be competitive in Illinois for the next six to to ten years minimum; 
  • the "pardon pen" has been abused for decades - Clinton was selling them for cash, Biden was covering crimes, Obama, Bush, W, Reagan, Carter. Until there's a concerted effort to reform the system, we give exactly zero fucks about someone else manufacturing a political advantage out of it;

In the end, it's going to come down to Fata$$ and what price - if any - he'll pay for going against the Prisoner Review Board, every member who was appointed by him. And those political ads WILL play to a national audience. Funny how national democrats are completely silent on this. 

Politely agree or disagree, use logical arguments and considered opinions. 

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42 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can still support Trump 100% and think it’s a shit move. The backlash in the comments stems from painting it in the original post like it wasn’t a big deal and it’s some chess move by Trump to make Pritzker look bad.

Let’s just call it what it is as it currently stands, a complete shit move by Trump.

Again, I support Trump 100% but I don’t have to angle to find ways to back him in every move he makes.

6/01/2025 12:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be careful. Hoover’s family including his sons were at the Illinois statehouse as guests of a state legislator who extolled the virtues of Hoover and the great work his family had done in fostering peace in Chicago. They are lobbying Fatzker to grant him a state pardon as well. These people never cease to amaze and bewilder me.

6/01/2025 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trump's commutation of Hoover's federal sentence is a "nothing burger," because everyone knows that Hoover will simply be immediately transferred to a state prison in Illinois, where he may even spend the rest of his life. I admire that Trump had the balls to do this, just like he commuted the sentence of former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich who, as dirty and corrupt as he was, was given way more federal prison time than he deserved for the crime he committed.

Anyway, none of this really matters for one main reason:

During the four horrific years (2021-2025) of the drooling vegetable, the bat-shit-crazy-with dementia "sleepy" Joe Biden in the White House, Biden illegally (and in an act of Treason) opened the border with Mexico and signed executive orders on January 20, 2021, that anyone who illegally crossed our border could stay in America forever and never be deported.

Essentially, during Biden's four years, any alien invader who broke federal law and entered our country illegally gets to stay here for the rest of his or her life. Nobody knows exactly how many illegal aliens Biden allowed to enter America, but the estimate is somewhere between twelve and sixteen million. If that number of illegals continued to enter America for another four years under a "President Kamala Harris," it would definitely would have spelled the end of America as we know it.

So, because President Donald Trump ended all of that treasonous opening of the border with Mexico, our great nation has been saved.

By that one single act, by signing an executive order on January 20, 2025 to shut down the border with Mexico, Trump saved America, so that America has a fighting chance to once again be a truly great nation.

And because Trump saved America, someday he may go down in history as one of the greatest American Presidents who ever lived.

May President Donald Trump live a very long life. Amen!



6/01/2025 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What if DOJ got actionable info from Hoover in return? Anyway, putting Hoover back in Pritzker's prison system is a nothingburger at the end of the day.

6/01/2025 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was a strategic move by Trump. Because it puts the ball in Pritzker ‘s hands. And any decision he makes will damage his presidential chances. If he grants clemency, he’ll piss off the law and order folks. If he doesn’t grant clemency, he’ll piss off the BLM/protest folks, basically his democratic base. So either way it go this kills his presidential dreams.

6/01/2025 01:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Politics or not, I subscribe to the fact that any group of 49 states should not be paying to maintain a convict when the original state could legally and should be paying the burden in a like sentence. The gubbenor shot his mouth off and got politically out maneuvered. Now, it's time to man-up and put the taxpayers' money where his big mouth's at. Be glad the other 49 states helped bear the expenses up until now and that reimbursements not required.

6/01/2025 02:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trump checkmated Pritzker on this, he loses either way.

6/01/2025 05:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. Off of the federal taxpayers' expense.

2. Now on the state of ill and noise's taxpayer's pocketbooks.

3. Our governor, jabba the butt, can do what the fuck ever.

A purely budgetary move by Trump.





6/01/2025 05:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would be in favor of releasing old man Hoover if Pritzker takes his place in the Graybar Marriot.

6/01/2025 06:47:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

President The Donald tossed Illinois Governor Jelly Belly Pigster a live grenade. Nice.

6/01/2025 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even if he doesn’t get out this is a black eye for trump. Not a trump hater but definitely don’t agree with a lot of what he is doing. This was just over the top pandering to a certain crowd.

6/01/2025 08:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fact that Hoover continued to run his gang while he was in state prison – while claiming to be a changed man – should have been enough to keep him in the federal joint for the rest of his life.

6/01/2025 08:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe part of Trump’s reasoning is, let Illinois pay to house this mutt, and save the feds money. Bonus points if Illinois lets him out and Hoov reaks havoc on Porkey’s state.

6/01/2025 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two wrongs don’t make it right

6/01/2025 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No you don’t have to agree with everything he says or does, just as many were panicans over the tariffs. But those talking about losing support for him are either stupid or trolls trying to sway people to the other side.

What are these people who lost support/faith/trust gonna do,, switch over to the trans-party or go independent (essentially throwing your ballot out the window) ? BTW, unfortunately, he will not be running again and therefore doesn’t need your vote.

6/01/2025 09:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don’t think it’s tds to say trump should never have commuted Hoovers fed sentence. I support trump, but he can make mistakes.Its ok to admit it. Watching coppers try and twist themselves into knots trying to justify the commutation is embarrassing.

6/01/2025 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was posted in the Tribune, from the lead prosecutor in the Federal case:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/05/29/larry-hoover-trump-fbi-boss/

6/01/2025 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don’t think for one minute Trump doesn’t know what he’s doing.

6/01/2025 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you commit Federal crimes, you go to Federal Jail. That's where he belongs. When he was incarcerated at the state level, he was still running the GDs. I no longer live in Illinois, as I moved out of state one day after I retired, but I live close enough to know that he may never spend another day in the Illinois prison system. Nothing that the Illinois government does anymore surprises me.

6/01/2025 09:47:00 AM  
Blogger Ludlow Peaswatter said...

So far, I’ve seen Trump. Keep his promises. This is 5D chess and I do not understand much of what’s going on, but I agree with most of his decision so far. just like when Bongino and Patel said they believe Epstein‘s death was a suicide, there’s more to that than meets the eye. Perhaps they are trying to flush out more deep state players. They must clean out all the agencies and the judicial system before they can enact any of their plans for indictments and convictions on the treasonous ones that have infiltrated every agency and part of all our systems. be patient! after the 2026 elections, if Trump gets what he wants all hell will break loose. I expect there will be several who take the easy way out.

6/01/2025 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You let most of the comments go through unless they were “personal” or “wrong?” Do you sometimes not let comments go through even if they are not personal or wrong but that you merely disagree with?

6/01/2025 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you trust the left in this state than you are just simple. Look at the legislation handed down in the last five years against law enforcement. The governor will probably cave to his left wing on this one too.

6/01/2025 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sure he is responsible for a lot of death and destruction. Did you know that the Flores brothers are responsible for a whole lot more. The Chicago Police Department hosted a event a on March 13 2025 at HQ with Jay Flores of the Sinaloa Cartel. From Kingpin to Educator. The clowns that ran and participated in the event were a embarrassment. I wouldn't be surprised if the CPD didn't invite Hoover to do the same. Forget about the death and destruction. Lets make this a learning experience for everyone. How embarrassing. That's why all the other countries have criminals come here. Its a joke.

6/01/2025 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no strategy involved with this. It is just a whim.

6/01/2025 11:18:00 AM  
Blogger stash the polski guy said...

If the porkster releases this outstanding citizen. The ghetto may get quite busy. Hey Jackass will never fail to keep up.
Hell spring Jeff and let's get a reunion photo with the esteemed revrun Jackson.

6/01/2025 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’ll agree with this to a point.
If that charge is State, yes.
Hoover was charged Federally.
McVeigh blew up a building in Oklahoma. They charged him federally.

6/01/2025 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trump isn't facing Illinois voters ever again and the system ensures a Republican won't be competitive in Illinois for the next six to to ten years minimum

Joe Severino is running as a republican

6/01/2025 01:33:00 PM  
Blogger Ludlow Peaswatter said...

From Jeff Childers, coffee and Covid:
Anybody who says it is happening too slowly is either totally unrealistic or is not acting in good faith.

People, please. Let’s not eat our own just as we’ve begun to win.

Patel and Bongino inherited a federal agency more tangled than Hoover’s ghost and more politicized than Twitter’s content moderation team. They’re not moving slowly. They’re moving carefully— and still faster than anyone dared hope. Conservatives demanding faster scalps should pause and consider the mission: it’s not just to punish. Even more important, it’s to rebuild.

And you don’t rebuild a federal law enforcement empire between podcast episodes.

6/01/2025 01:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Biden did this you would have lost your mind

6/01/2025 03:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’m not a whatabouter but it is kind of amusing hearing from people who are defending this move but would have gone ape doodoo if it was from the other side.

6/01/2025 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It’s even more embarrassing listening to coppers at roll call repeat everything they read on the blog almost word for word, pretending it is their own thoughts. And then they claim to never read SCC.

6/01/2025 05:35:00 PM  
Blogger marz7142 said...

relax clowns... it's all about letting broke ass killinois pay for the mutt rather than the federal government

6/01/2025 07:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Call it what you want, Thats the end result.

6/01/2025 08:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And you need to remove your head from the vicinity of your colon.

6/01/2025 08:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He must have lost his mind twisting himself into a pretzel with this justification.

6/01/2025 08:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agreed.

6/01/2025 09:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I honestly can see pritzker releasing him before his presidential run. It can’t hurt him. MAGA supporters won’t vote for him anyways no matter what he does.. plus, if they bash him for releasing Hoover he just turns and says I was following the presidents lead. He then gets in good with the black vote, the ultra lib vote and he can steal a lot of middle of the road votes because he can play that middle of the road game better than newsome. He’s going to wait for a perfect time to do it but he will do it. It will be right when he’s running for prez.

6/01/2025 10:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They posted your stupid shit

6/01/2025 11:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And the trolls resurface.
But your absolutely right on biden and the “other side” because we have zero faith in the party who locked us down for almost 4 years while trying to destroy our country.

I trust Trump a 100% more than I trust any of them !!

6/01/2025 11:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 6/01/2025 11:58:
Not everyone who disagrees with this is a troll. But I guess if you’re a simpleton it would seem that way to you.

6/02/2025 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They posted your stupid shit
6/01/2025 11:53:59 PM

You probably never had a comment go unpublished because you mindlessly go along with everything that is posted by SCC. Some of us can actually think for ourselves.

6/02/2025 10:06:00 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Exactly!! Trump doesn’t do anything “on a whim” Good luck fat f—-k He will never be president! JD Vance 2028!

6/05/2025 06:08:00 AM  

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